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Angela's Backlinks

by Kevin Walker
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Some people in this forum have said how well they have done with Angela's backlinks (BLs) and I was wondering if anyone could help me out with mine.

I put up all of the BLs in the March 2010 packet at the start of the month (15 days ago) and I'm still ranking nowhere in Google searches - same as I always have. So how long do I have to wait and should I have seen some results by now?

My BL keywords/anchor links are ''Make Money Online'' and ''Work From Home''

Any suggestions will be greatly received.

Kevin Walker.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    This is just a guess, as I don't use Angela's Backlinks, but you chose Make Money Online and Work from Home ... you will need a gazillion backlinks to rank for those keywords. You chose the most competitive niche there is.
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  • Profile picture of the author sixstring
    I have had much success using Angela's backlinks. Be sure you have a good mix of backlinks. By that, I mean blog commenting, articles...etc.

    Backlinks are a big part of getting rankings, but good content and SEO are also factors.

    It does seem though that the keywords you are going after are probably some pretty tough keywords to shoot for. There are websites with thousands and thousands of backlinks for on the first page of google for these keywords of backlinks.

    My recommendation would be to try and find some less competitive keywords in your niche and go after them.

    Just my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author redflea13
    Those are some highly competitive keywords. Check out this link to get an idea of how to find good key words that aren't as competitive. Tips on Getting Ranked Higher In Search Engines
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    They've said it all - you're aiming at massively competitive terms.

    Those packets are good if you're in a non-competitive niche or to supplement proper link building in a more competitive one - they're not a great solution used on their own.

    Not sure why you're targeting such competitive terms, you could probably make money much quicker going for more niche phrases.

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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Hi Kevin,

    First off, I have never used the BLs either.

    However, the posts above me are spot on -- you chose some extremely competitive, tough words to try to rank for. And I'm afraid a backlinks packet isn't going to get you there. And certainly you won't get there in two weeks. I'm sure the people who rank for those words spent months or years getting to that position.

    As mentioned above, you need to do some keyword research. Instead of trying to rank for keywords that everyone and their uncle is trying to rank for, choose words that have less competition.

    Sure, they might not get as much traffic -- but its easier to get on page 1. And if you rank for several of them, then collectively the traffic adds up.

    Plus here's another bonus: If you rank well for a bunch of keywords, you won't take such a hit if you fall off page 1 for some of your words.


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    Bottom line: go to WordTracker, Market Samurai or whatever your fave keyword tool is and start finding keywords with less competition. Then start optimizing your web pages and doing linking campaigns around these keywords.


    Cheers,
    Becky
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  • Profile picture of the author munnacircuit
    Is there any blueprint on how to get proper backlinks for your site? a step by step approch how to rank high in seo?
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    • Profile picture of the author T-shirtman
      Nice read and really helpful comments
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by munnacircuit View Post

      Is there any blueprint on how to get proper backlinks for your site? a step by step approch how to rank high in seo?
      Warriors tend to be a little top heavy with backlinking (meaning they over concentrate on it)

      The first step is ALWAYS keyword research. I've had some niches where I could land on the front page with just 30 backlinks.

      Second step is backlinks right? Nope.

      Second step is on page Seo

      When Google does find your site you want it to see that your page is relevant.

      Keyword in the title , URL and in the body of your content along with related words (what google refers to as SLI - Semantic latent Indexing) etc.

      Then you are ready for a backlink campaign. Your question raises a great point. Alot of people are doing backlinking without the other steps and alot of time and money is being wasted.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Walker
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Warriors tend to be a little top heavy with backlinking (meaning they over concentrate on it)

        The first step is ALWAYS keyword research. I've had some niches where I could land on the front page with just 30 backlinks.

        Second step is backlinks right? Nope.

        Second step is on page Seo

        When Google does find your site you want it to see that your page is relevant.

        Keyword in the title , URL and in the body of your content along with related words (what google refers to as SLI - Semantic latent Indexing) etc.

        Then you are ready for a backlink campaign. Your question raises a great point. Alot of people are doing backlinking without the other steps and alot of time and money is being wasted.

        Hi Mike, thanks for your good advice.

        To clarify, when you say: ''Keyword in the title , URL and in the body of your content along with related words (what google refers to as SLI - Semantic latent Indexing) etc.''

        I take it you're talking about the html code and the keywords I want to rank for should be mentioned in the title?

        When you say the URL one of my website URLs is http://thekewcotradingcompany.com/ which does not mention anything about making money online or working from home. So, is this a problem and if so how big a one? If it is a big problem could I re-title the page to put the keyword in the URL? For example:

        http://thekewcotradingcompany.com/makingmoneyonline

        and then direct traffic to that page rather than to?: http://thekewcotradingcompany.com/

        And by ''the body'' again it's the URL code, right?

        The related words being words related to the keywords?

        Sorry about the Qs, just need to be clear on this!

        Again, many thanks.

        Kevin.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

          When you say the URL one of my website URLs is http://thekewcotradingcompany.com/ which does not mention anything about making money online or working from home. So, is this a problem and if so how big a one? If it is a big problem could I re-title the page to put the keyword in the URL? For example:

          http://thekewcotradingcompany.com/makingmoneyonline
          I prefer the domain itself but yes that can work also. However don't throw out the advice about changing keywords. You need to reevaluate your keyword strategy.

          And by ''the body'' again it's the URL code, right?

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          No thats in the posts and or articles themselves. The meat of your content.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Walker
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Warriors tend to be a little top heavy with backlinking (meaning they over concentrate on it)

        The first step is ALWAYS keyword research. I've had some niches where I could land on the front page with just 30 backlinks.

        Second step is backlinks right? Nope.

        Second step is on page Seo

        When Google does find your site you want it to see that your page is relevant.

        Keyword in the title , URL and in the body of your content along with related words (what google refers to as SLI - Semantic latent Indexing) etc.

        Then you are ready for a backlink campaign. Your question raises a great point. Alot of people are doing backlinking without the other steps and alot of time and money is being wasted.
        Hi Mike, here's one you missed: ''The related words being words related to the keywords?'' - is this correct?

        Cheers, Kevin.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

          Hi Mike, here's one you missed: ''The related words being words related to the keywords?'' - is this correct?

          Cheers, Kevin.
          Thats basically in there under LSI

          Pretty much the way that Google computers determine whether an article or post is relevant and well written is by the related words. Computers can't really understand the difference between a good well written article and poor content. All a computer can do is spot the similar words that tend to pop up in a well written article and assume good quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    Try to get less competitive keywords, get a feel of how the backlinks affecting the ranking, and scale from there.

    Newbie love competitive keywords - because they are easy to find!

    Try to get long tail keywords - 4 words or more, with decent searches (exact match), and build content and backlinks to it, you can easily get tons of traffic and sales, that's how you should start.

    Try to find phrase competition 10,000 and title below 1,000. Use this formula to pick the right keyword should get you up to speed, after you have some success with it, try to scale up your competition and search count!

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    • Profile picture of the author munnacircuit
      Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

      Try to get less competitive keywords, get a feel of how the backlinks affecting the ranking, and scale from there.

      Newbie love competitive keywords - because they are easy to find!

      Try to get long tail keywords - 4 words or more, with decent searches (exact match), and build content and backlinks to it, you can easily get tons of traffic and sales, that's how you should start.

      Try to find phrase competition 10,000 and title below 1,000. Use this formula to pick the right keyword should get you up to speed, after you have some success with it, try to scale up your competition and search count!

      Kok Choon
      great info..when should we start building backlinks? should we first let the site get indexed and then start building links?
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      • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
        Originally Posted by munnacircuit View Post

        great info..when should we start building backlinks? should we first let the site get indexed and then start building links?
        You can start backlink campaign anytime, the sooner the better! Building backlinks will help your site index and rank!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Walker
      Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

      Try to get less competitive keywords, get a feel of how the backlinks affecting the ranking, and scale from there.

      Newbie love competitive keywords - because they are easy to find!

      Try to get long tail keywords - 4 words or more, with decent searches (exact match), and build content and backlinks to it, you can easily get tons of traffic and sales, that's how you should start.

      Try to find phrase competition 10,000 and title below 1,000. Use this formula to pick the right keyword should get you up to speed, after you have some success with it, try to scale up your competition and search count!

      Kok Choon
      Hi Kok, thanks for your response. Could you clarify for me how I know if my long tail keyword is an exact match or not? What constitutes a decent search?

      How would you suggest I go about getting tons of traffic?

      When you say ''Try to find phrase competition 10,000 and title below 1,000.'' What do you mean and what's a title? Also, when I do searches in Google, even for a word no one would be searching for, (a, but, the, etc,) I still get millions of results so I'm not sure how I can get a result of 1,000 - 10,000!?
      And when you say ''after you have some success with it, try to scale up your competition and search count!'' How would I go about this?

      Can you give some working/practical examples in your responses to the above please?

      Many thanks, Kevin.
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      • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
        Hi Kevin,

        Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

        Hi Kok, thanks for your response. Could you clarify for me how I know if my long tail keyword is an exact match or not? What constitutes a decent search?

        This is going to be long....

        In SEO, how do you determine the competition of a keyword?

        There are 2 ways:

        1. Using broad, phrase, and allintitle to look at the competition page.
        2. Top 10 analysis - find out how many links for each and every competitors of your keyword. Basically, you get those information from Yahoo site explorer.

        If you are using Market Samurai (Highly recommended!), you will see both information clearly!

        You can find more information about competition here:

        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post1076092


        Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

        How would you suggest I go about getting tons of traffic?

        When you say ''Try to find phrase competition 10,000 and title below 1,000.'' What do you mean and what's a title? Also, when I do searches in Google, even for a word no one would be searching for, (a, but, the, etc,) I still get millions of results so I'm not sure how I can get a result of 1,000 - 10,000!?
        And when you say ''after you have some success with it, try to scale up your competition and search count!'' How would I go about this?

        Can you give some working/practical examples in your responses to the above please?

        Many thanks, Kevin.
        "BUT" is a highly competitive keyword!

        Usually, long tail keywords means keywords with more than 2 words. I would prefer finding keywords with 4 words and above.

        You need to think another way... I know you mean "BUT" shouldn't have much competition, because no one would ever "intentionally" rank for that word, right?

        However, dictionary and wiki sites might want to compete with that keyword! Plus each and every website with content should somehow use the word - "BUT", that makes them your competitors!

        For instance - "panic attack".

        Type the keyword in Google without quote -
        Broad competition: 14,900,000

        With quote "Panic Attack": 1,640,000

        And allintitleanic Attack: 520,000

        These are the number of websites contains the keyword - Panic Attack.

        The one in quote is equivalent to Market Samurai SEO Competition, and allintitle is equivalent to SEO Title Competition.

        This is how you get the competition data - the first way! (of 2 ways)

        May be you can read more information here:

        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post1846846

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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Walker
          Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

          Hi Kevin,




          This is going to be long....

          In SEO, how do you determine the competition of a keyword?

          There are 2 ways:

          1. Using broad, phrase, and allintitle to look at the competition page.
          2. Top 10 analysis - find out how many links for each and every competitors of your keyword. Basically, you get those information from Yahoo site explorer.

          If you are using Market Samurai (Highly recommended!), you will see both information clearly!

          You can find more information about competition here:

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post1076092




          "BUT" is a highly competitive keyword!

          Usually, long tail keywords means keywords with more than 2 words. I would prefer finding keywords with 4 words and above.

          You need to think another way... I know you mean "BUT" shouldn't have much competition, because no one would ever "intentionally" rank for that word, right?

          However, dictionary and wiki sites might want to compete with that keyword! Plus each and every website with content should somehow use the word - "BUT", that makes them your competitors!

          For instance - "panic attack".

          Type the keyword in Google without quote -
          Broad competition: 14,900,000

          With quote "Panic Attack": 1,640,000

          And allintitleanic Attack: 520,000

          These are the number of websites contains the keyword - Panic Attack.

          The one in quote is equivalent to Market Samurai SEO Competition, and allintitle is equivalent to SEO Title Competition.

          This is how you get the competition data - the first way! (of 2 ways)

          May be you can read more information here:

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post1846846

          Kok Choon
          Hi Kok, thanks for this information, it's very good stuff.

          Can I just clarify with an example of what I've done? Sorry about the search term (it's horrible I know), but it was all I could think of at the time!!

          I did a Google search for snot gobblers and got 8,570 results/websites.
          I then did a search for ''snot gobblers'' and got 8,560 results/websites.
          I also did a search for allintitle:snot gobblers and got just 3 results/websites.

          The phrase search (''snot gobblers'') is less than 10,000 and theallintitle (allintitle:snot gobblers) is less than 1,000 - so is this what, in an earlier post you called ''Gold'' and will it work for my website or just in Ezinearticles, Goarticles, ArticleBase, etc?

          Also, is this a total of 17,133 or are the sites duplicated in each search and the total is therefore 8,570.

          Sorry to go into every small detail but I want to get it right!

          The other thing is I know people on this thread are saying to me that I need to do my keyword research but also I feel that once I've done it and got a killer long tail keyword I'll need to then build a new website and product around it. Is this correct and is it the way I should be going or can I still find a less competitive keyword for my make money online website?

          All answers greatly received from anyone.

          Regards, Kevin.
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          • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
            Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

            Hi Kok, thanks for this information, it's very good stuff.

            Can I just clarify with an example of what I've done? Sorry about the search term (it's horrible I know), but it was all I could think of at the time!!

            I did a Google search for snot gobblers and got 8,570 results/websites.
            I then did a search for ''snot gobblers'' and got 8,560 results/websites.
            I also did a search for allintitle:snot gobblers and got just 3 results/websites.

            The phrase search (''snot gobblers'') is less than 10,000 and theallintitle (allintitle:snot gobblers) is less than 1,000 - so is this what, in an earlier post you called ''Gold'' and will it work for my website or just in Ezinearticles, Goarticles, ArticleBase, etc?

            Also, is this a total of 17,133 or are the sites duplicated in each search and the total is therefore 8,570.

            Sorry to go into every small detail but I want to get it right!

            The other thing is I know people on this thread are saying to me that I need to do my keyword research but also I feel that once I've done it and got a killer long tail keyword I'll need to then build a new website and product around it. Is this correct and is it the way I should be going or can I still find a less competitive keyword for my make money online website?

            All answers greatly received from anyone.

            Regards, Kevin.
            Hi Kevin,

            I find no value for snot gobblers - Google doesn't show any searches for it, while it matches the condition, but not the figures you provide.

            Try market samurai, you get better ideas about it.

            Here is a gold keyword for your, it's amazon product -             dotti's weight loss zone.

            Searches (Exact): 79 / day
            Phrase Competition: 8400+
            Allintitle Competition: 303

            If you write a SEO optimize article and submit to ezinearticles, it will be on page 1 without any backlinks!

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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post


    My BL keywords/anchor links are ''Make Money Online'' and ''Work From Home''

    Any suggestions will be greatly received.

    Kevin Walker.
    That competitive niche (very lucrative too) requires more than putting up a page (particularly if its the My business page in your sig). You need to become a hub for a term like that. Even if you do a massive campaign and get to the front page you will eventually drop again without a long term strategy.
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    1. Use targeted keywords - research
    2. Go with a niche you can dominate

    It will work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Walker
    Hi every one and a big thanks to you all for such timely and informative responses!! Sorry I can't respond in person to you all.

    Has anyone any suggestions for alternative keywords to get ranked higher for my niche (making money online/working from home)?

    Would alternative and less competitive keywords work for the same website (check out my websites and tell me what you think (please be gentle!!) making money online is at:work from home and working from home is at:make money on line working from a home based business ) or do I need to alter my website to suit the new Keywords?

    Regards, Kevin.
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    • Profile picture of the author Aira Bongco
      Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

      Hi every one and a big thanks to you all for such timely and informative responses!! Sorry I can't respond in person to you all.

      Has anyone any suggestions for alternative keywords to get ranked higher for my niche (making money online/working from home)?

      Would alternative and less competitive keywords work for the same website (check out my websites and tell me what you think (please be gentle!!) making money online is at:work from home and working from home is at:make money on line working from a home based business ) or do I need to alter my website to suit the new Keywords?

      Regards, Kevin.
      Hi Kevin,

      I would really recommend going against the plan of the make money online niche because it is one of the hardest niches to dominate if you will only depend on free link building methods.

      But here is a way to do your keyword research effectively.

      1. Define your site's goal. Do you want to sell products or do you want them to click your ads. Have only one goal per page or you will diminish the percentage that your visitors will do a particular action.

      2. Once you do that, do a keyword research on http://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal or Free keyword suggestion tool for SEO, Adwords & blogging. Target buyer's keywords (or keywords that people will type when they want to buy) if you are going to sell and target keywords with an average of $2 and above CPC if you want to make money through Adsense.

      3. Now the third step is quite tedious to do manually. I would suggest keyword research tools. I use SENuke to automate this. Run each keyword on an allintitle:keyword search on Google. If you can reap keywords with less than 1000 competitors but with a viable number of searches, you can dominate that keyword.

      Bonus step: Once you dominate one keyword, shoot another one and another one until you can shoot for the big keywords.

      Hope that helps.

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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Walker
        Originally Posted by airabongco View Post

        Hi Kevin,
        Originally Posted by airabongco View Post


        I would really recommend going against the plan of the make money online niche because it is one of the hardest niches to dominate if you will only depend on free link building methods.

        But here is a way to do your keyword research effectively.

        1. Define your site's goal. Do you want to sell products or do you want them to click your ads. Have only one goal per page or you will diminish the percentage that your visitors will do a particular action.

        2. Once you do that, do a keyword research on http://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal or Free keyword suggestion tool for SEO, Adwords & blogging. Target buyer's keywords (or keywords that people will type when they want to buy) if you are going to sell and target keywords with an average of $2 and above CPC if you want to make money through Adsense.

        3. Now the third step is quite tedious to do manually. I would suggest keyword research tools. I use SENuke to automate this. Run each keyword on an allintitle:keyword search on Google. If you can reap keywords with less than 1000 competitors but with a viable number of searches, you can dominate that keyword.

        Bonus step: Once you dominate one keyword, shoot another one and another one until you can shoot for the big keywords.

        Hope that helps.

        Aira


        Hi airabongco, many thanks for this. I was wondering if you could clarify a few points please?

        My site's goal is to sell products, so if you could look at them and comment on their suitability for this I would be grateful - the links are above. My products are Your Net Biz, Maverick Money Makers and Tweetsbot at the moment. These seem to boil down to keywords of making money (online, from home, etc) or working from home (home business, work at home, etc) which are highly competitive - so how can I market my websites whilst avoiding such competitive keywords and yet still promote making money online and working from home?

        By only one goal per page do you mean just one thing to click on per page? Also do you mean have just a single page site (and a very long one) rather than multiple pages?

        Could you explain more about how I make money through Adsense when you say: ''Target buyer's keywords (or keywords that people will type when they want to buy) if you are going to sell and target keywords with an average of $2 and above CPC if you want to make money through Adsense.''


        I'm not quite sure about this point:
        ''Now the third step is quite tedious to do manually. I would suggest keyword research tools. I use SENuke to automate this. Run each keyword on an allintitle:keyword search on Google. If you can reap keywords with less than 1000 competitors but with a viable number of searches, you can dominate that keyword''.

        Are you saying use SENuke to get some keywords and then run it through Google as an allintitle:keyword search? What is an ''allintitle:keyword search''? By competitors do you mean what Google calls ''advertiser competition''? What would you say is a viable number of searches and is local or global search volume the one to look at in Google? How can I tell if there are less than a 1,000 competitors as all I get is a shaded bar in this column in Google?

        Not sure what you mean by shooting keyword or how I should go about it or structure it?

        Sorry to come back with so many questions.

        Regards, Kevin.
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          Hi Kevin,

          Asking questions is okay. I will address your questions one by one.

          Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

          My site's goal is to sell products, so if you could look at them and comment on their suitability for this I would be grateful - the links are above. My products are Your Net Biz, Maverick Money Makers and Tweetsbot at the moment. These seem to boil down to keywords of making money (online, from home, etc) or working from home (home business, work at home, etc) which are highly competitive - so how can I market my websites whilst avoiding such competitive keywords and yet still promote making money online and working from home?


          I see that you have products in the make money niche. I am looking for your product pages but only found these above.
          work from home
          My Income Streams

          Okay I will be honest. The sales copy is weak. Look at this in the War Room and it will help you a lot.
          http://www.warriorforum.com/war-room...h-success.html

          You should structure your points and release them one by one and not all at the same time.

          At the second page, try to focus more on the buyer and less on you. Get them on the boat first before proving your credibility.

          Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

          By only one goal per page do you mean just one thing to click on per page? Also do you mean have just a single page site (and a very long one) rather than multiple pages?


          I just employ Seth Godin's one banana per page concept. You want people to do a particular action right? Sign-up? Buy? Click on ads? Then you will increase the percentage of them doing this by emphasizing the thing that you would like them to do. Make the sign-up stand out or have a huge buy button.

          In long single page sites, the banana can appear two times. But it should be through scrolling. One in the top fold and another in the lower fold and even more bananas if your page is longer. Some marketers use this opportunity to bullet the benefits of their products or show customer testimonials. This goes with multiple pages as well.

          Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

          Could you explain more about how I make money through Adsense when you say: ''Target buyer's keywords (or keywords that people will type when they want to buy) if you are going to sell and target keywords with an average of $2 and above CPC if you want to make money through Adsense.''

          Buyer's keywords are usually appended by the brand name of the product. This applies for affiliate sales. For example, people want to buy ExampleLinkSoftware. Then they will look for keywords like "Download ExampleLinkSoftware", "Buy ExampleLinkSoftware", "ExampleLinkSoftware Review" and "ExampleLinkSoftware Scam". You will be surprised how less competitive these terms are because a few people know how to do their keyword research.

          But if you want to make money through Adsense. Reveal the CPC column in http://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal. This is cost per click and it will tell you how much can Adsense pay you for that particular keyword. This will let you avoid the keywords that will just bring you pennies.

          But for your own products, you have to make your own campaign. Actually, what I do for this is not target keywords and expect people to land at my site just because I am in the search engine listings. What I do is try to reach my market. You can do that by posting in webmaster forums like Warrior Forums or find people with good mailing lists. Of course, the product and salescopy must be good. Also, allowing affiliates always help.

          Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

          I'm not quite sure about this point:
          Are you saying use SENuke to get some keywords and then run it through Google as an allintitle:keyword search? What is an ''allintitle:keyword search''?


          I am saying type allintitle:keyword in your search and you will see all the optimized pages for that keyword in the search engine results. Pages that do not have the exact keyword in the title are not onpage optimized. Just look at the attached image on how I typed your keyword on Google.

          Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

          By competitors do you mean what Google calls ''advertiser competition''? What would you say is a viable number of searches and is local or global search volume the one to look at in Google? How can I tell if there are less than a 1,000 competitors as all I get is a shaded bar in this column in Google?

          Search number can go as low as 50. It will still get you visitors and that is all that matters. Competitors are the pages on Google that you are competing with. You can see it on the top right portion of your search results. You can see in the image attached that you are dealing with 4,460,000 competitors in your chosen keyword.

          Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

          Not sure what you mean by shooting keyword or how I should go about it or structure it?
          Sorry about not being clear on this part. By shooting, I mean go for a low search, longtail (3 or more words) keyword first. Then do a campaign for the competitive terms like "work at home".

          Hope that helps Kevin.

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            Originally Posted by airabongco View Post

            Hi Kevin,

            Asking questions is okay. I will address your questions one by one.


            Hi Aira, please see in blue below.

            I see that you have products in the make money niche. I am looking for your product pages but only found these above. These are the two main pages I'm marketing at the moment. The first is my personal capture page to give some feel for me to it, but I have a ''company'' capture page for Your Net Biz at http://kewco.mymarketingtour.com/movie_player/ which is full of raz-a-ma-tax and a bit cold but hard hitting!! The second one below is my sales page which is part of my main website rather than a stand alone capture page and again gives some information about me in order to ''befriend'' the leads I'm trying to get.
            work from home
            My Income Streams

            Okay I will be honest. The sales copy is weak. Yep, I appreaciate that!!Look at this in the War Room and it will help you a lot. Will do as soon as I've finished responding - thanks in advance.
            http://www.warriorforum.com/war-room-private-discussions/178793-secret-recipe-product-launch-success.html

            You should structure your points and release them one by one and not all at the same time.
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            At the second page,try to focus more on the buyer and less on you. Get them on the boat first before proving your credibility. Which one are you calling the second page? Is it the second web address above? If so then I was hoping they would read all about me on the page at http://thekewcotradingcompany.com/index.htm of that same website.


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            I just employ Seth Godin's one banana per page concept. You want people to do a particular action right? Sign-up? Buy? Click on ads? Then you will increase the percentage of them doing this by emphasizing the thing that you would like them to do. Make the sign-up stand out or have a huge buy button. I'll be looking into this - thanks.

            In long single page sites, the banana can appear two times. But it should be through scrolling. One in the top fold and another in the lower fold and even more bananas if your page is longer. Is there a ''Golden Ratio'' of bannas to page length? Some marketers use this opportunity to bullet the benefits of their products or show customer testimonials. This goes with multiple pages as well. But just one or two bannanas per page in this case - right?

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            Buyer's keywords are usually appended by the brand name of the product. This applies for affiliate sales. For example, people want to buy ExampleLinkSoftware. Then they will look for keywords like "Download ExampleLinkSoftware", "Buy ExampleLinkSoftware", "ExampleLinkSoftware Review" and "ExampleLinkSoftware Scam". You will be surprised how less competitive these terms are because a few people know how to do their keyword research. So, are you saying use the keywords: download, buy, review and scam or do you mean use the keywords: "Buy ExampleLinkSoftware", "ExampleLinkSoftware Review" and "ExampleLinkSoftware Scam". If so then a long tail keyword anchor link could be "ExampleLinkSoftware Review"?

            But if you want to make money through Adsense. Reveal the CPC column in http://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal. This is cost per click and it will tell you how much can Adsense pay you for that particular keyword. This will let you avoid the keywords that will just bring you pennies. Again, I'll be looking into this, but at the moment I'm going to concentrate on just a few things so I can prove to myself that I can get this business up and running and, more importantly, making me some money!! I've gone through the phase of trying to do everything at once and become an overnight success!! Right now I'm focusing on refining what I have up on the net, getting a following/traffic, building my list and getting sales. I tried Aweber and capture pages and so far I only have 96 people on my list (and that's since last July). So I'm trying to use Twitter as a marketing platform and so far I have 12,500 followers over 2 accounts (and that's in 5 months) and I look on this as my ''list'' to market to. Do you have a view on this and do you know of any killer tactics, e-books, websites, tools to help me with this?

            But for your own products, you have to make your own campaign. Not sure what you mean by this! Actually, what I do for this is not target keywords and expect people to land at my site just because I am in the search engine listings. What I do is try to reach my market. You can do that by posting in webmaster forums like Warrior Forums or find people with good mailing lists. How would I find people with good mailing lists and how would it help me? What constitutes a ''good'' mailing list? Of course, the product and salescopy must be good. Where would I find good products and sales copy off the shelf? Again, what constitutes ''good'' product and sale copy? Also, allowing affiliates always help. Sorry, not sure what you mean by this!



            I am saying type allintitle:keyword in your search and you will see all the optimized pages for that keyword in the search engine results. Pages that do not have the exact keyword in the title are not onpage optimized. I've done a search for ''allintitle:make money online'' and for ''make money online'' and both got very similar results!! Just look at the attached image on how I typed your keyword on Google. Sorry, I can't find any attached image!

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            Search number can go as low as 50. It will still get you visitors and that is all that matters. Competitors are the pages on Google that you are competing with. You can see it on the top right portion of your search results. You can see in the image attached that you are dealing with 4,460,000 competitors in your chosen keyword. Sorry, I can't find any attached image! Even when I do a search for a word no one would be searching for (a, but, the, etc,) I still get millions of results so I'm not sure how I can get a result of less than 1,000!?



            Sorry about not being clear on this part. By shooting, I mean go for a low search, longtail (3 or more words) keyword first. Then do a campaign for the competitive terms like "work at home".

            Hope that helps Kevin. It surely does, many thanks for all of this!

            Could you give me some more detail/clarity on my previous points about?:

            How can I market my websites whilst avoiding such competitive keywords and yet still promote making money online and working from home?

            What works best, a single page with a long scrole (I personally don't like these) or a multi page site?

            Are you saying use SENuke to get some keywords and then run it through Google as an allintitle:keyword search?
            What would you say is a viable number of searches and is local or global search volume the one to look at in Google?
            I'll be doing some work on my website based on your suggestions above and I'll send you a private message when it's done so you can have a look and let me know what you think if that's OK with you?

            Again, sorry for all the questions and many thanks for all your help.
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    FWIW, the Kewcotrading site popped up a large "unsafe site" warning. You may want to poke through Google's webmaster tools to see what the problem is.
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    • Profile picture of the author Y2E
      Originally Posted by Goatboy View Post

      FWIW, the Kewcotrading site popped up a large "unsafe site" warning. You may want to poke through Google's webmaster tools to see what the problem is.
      I can confirm.

      Kevin, your site is carrying the Win32/Kryptik.DBC trojan. Check your server or hosting account for any non-native files or any injected code into your php files (like long strings of base 64 code).

      The trojan, in these cases, most typically originates on the local PC/machine of the site admin and is uploaded during one or more of the ftp sessions while working on the site. You will have to run a virus check on your local computer as well. Eset's free online scanner does a good job.
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        Originally Posted by Y2E View Post

        I can confirm.

        Kevin, your site is carrying the Win32/Kryptik.DBC trojan. Check your server or hosting account for any non-native files or any injected code into your php files (like long strings of base 64 code).

        The trojan, in these cases, most typically originates on the local PC/machine of the site admin and is uploaded during one or more of the ftp sessions while working on the site. You will have to run a virus check on your local computer as well. Eset's free online scanner does a good job.
        Hi and thanks for this.

        Never had this problem before so could you walk me through it a bit more so I know exactly what I'm doing please?

        Regards, Kevin.
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        Originally Posted by Y2E View Post

        I can confirm.

        Kevin, your site is carrying the Win32/Kryptik.DBC trojan. Check your server or hosting account for any non-native files or any injected code into your php files (like long strings of base 64 code).

        The trojan, in these cases, most typically originates on the local PC/machine of the site admin and is uploaded during one or more of the ftp sessions while working on the site. You will have to run a virus check on your local computer as well. Eset's free online scanner does a good job.
        Hi, back again!!

        I've started a virus scan on my local computer using McAfee software.

        Is there anyway of removing the Trojan automatically from my website's hosting provider's server? Otherwise how will I recognise the Trojan/base 64 code?

        Would another way be to clean up my hard drive on my local pc; then delete everything to do with the site from my hosting providers server and finally re-upload the entire website again?

        Many thanks, Kevin.
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        • Profile picture of the author Y2E
          Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

          Hi, back again!!

          I've started a virus scan on my local computer using McAfee software.

          Is there anyway of removing the Trojan automatically from my website's hosting provider's server? Otherwise how will I recognise the Trojan/base 64 code?

          Would another way be to clean up my hard drive on my local pc; then delete everything to do with the site from my hosting providers server and finally re-upload the entire website again?

          Many thanks, Kevin.
          Kevin, a lot of resident AV programs fail to stop trojans. Hence, working on the assumption that one may have slipped by your defences already, that is why I recommended the free Eset online scanner. It seems to do a pretty good job as an added tool.

          I would advise against using any magic trojan removal tool you can turn up in a "remove trojan XYZ" google search, unless said tool is being offered by a tech support guru at a tech/virus-help support forum. Nine times out of ten, it seems these searches lead to either more trojans, or to a sales tool disguised as a virus removal tool.

          I am not an expert on this, so I would recommend leaning on techsupportguy or majorgeeks or geekstogo forums or the like.

          This is not to say that your machine was definitely responsible for uploading the trojan. If this is a shared server, it could have been compromised either directly through your account or through adjacent accounts. There has been quite a bit of this going on. In scanning the local machine, the idea is to rule out all ifs and buts, not lay absolute blame.

          On the server side of things, yes, the best way is to completely replace the existing files with a fresh set, if you can. If ftp-ing, this should be done from a machine which has been confirmed as virus free. Otherwise, you'll just end up uploading the trojan again, side by side with the new files, or in them. The only other sure-fire solution there would be to go through each file, one by one, either manually (ugh) or using a file comparison software, to check and weed out any foreign injected code.

          It's a tough task, but it has to be done, both server side and locally. Best of luck.
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          • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
            Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

            Hi Kok, thanks for this, very good advice - I'll be following it.

            Could you explain this point a little more and how I should go about it please?: ''Try to find phrase competition 10,000 and title below 1,000. Use this formula to pick the right keyword should get you up to speed, after you have some success with it, try to scale up your competition and search count!''

            Cheers.

            Kevin.
            Type in Google - "yourkeyword" and see what is the sites count.
            Type in Google - allintitle:yourkeyword and see what is the site count.

            Alternatively, user market samurai to look at the SEO Comp and SEO Title Comp...

            Phrase - 10,000
            Allintitle -1,000

            If you find keyword within these range, you can easily rank any keyword optimized article in PR 6 sites, even without backlinks!

            Such as Ezinearticles, Goarticles, ArticleBase

            Easy getting tons of traffic to your site! This is GOLD, try it and you will know the power!

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      Originally Posted by Goatboy View Post

      FWIW, the Kewcotrading site popped up a large "unsafe site" warning. You may want to poke through Google's webmaster tools to see what the problem is.

      Hi and thanks for the heads up on this.

      Where did the warning appear - on Google itself or on the Kewco website and which Kewco website/url. What form did it take and what did it say exactly - do you have a screen shot?

      I'm not seeing this or any other problem!!

      Thanks again.

      Kevin.

      PS Strange how Google is always picked up as mis-spelled in spell checkers!!??
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    The warning appears in my browser when I enter the site URL and attempt to go there. It is a product of Norton AV.

    Webmaster tools has a malware section that will alert you to what the site is infected with. The existence of malware may be one reason you are having a hard time getting any rank, other than the competitiveness of the keywords.
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    It is the kewcotradingcompany.com site.
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    Kevin,

    A couple points on the original post, without going into some of the other stuff here.

    I'd see if those links were even indexed yet? If not (which would not be unusual) it's time to try some of the various indexing tools floating around this forum and others.

    Angela's links work best for me when I use them a month or two after she releases them.

    If Terry Kyle still has openings for his BL project I'd sign up immediately. They do a great job limiting subscribers and finding less known BL sources.
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    I have just started with Angela Edwards backlinks package for my sites and blogs. I am making a point to keep the same anchor text for most of the profile pages.

    Is it okay, if I change my anchor text for the same sites ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr_Lauri
    I believe the best way to find what the competition is, to do a indepth research: allinurl:keyword, allintitle:keyword and allinanchor:keyword for a low competitive keyword phrase.

    All these are responsible how your keyword phrase will perform at google. Not only how many competing sites there are. And you should also look at the first three to five pages that are in those results for your keyword. If they have a very high pagerank, it's more difficult to get ahead of them with a newish site.

    Hope this helps

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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Walker
      Originally Posted by loxebuz View Post

      I believe the best way to find what the competition is, to do a indepth research: allinurl:keyword, allintitle:keyword and allinanchor:keyword for a low competitive keyword phrase.

      All these are responsible how your keyword phrase will perform at google. Not only how many competing sites there are. And you should also look at the first three to five pages that are in those results for your keyword. If they have a very high pagerank, it's more difficult to get ahead of them with a newish site. If they are sites which have shown up because of the keywords I used in the search then they will be high in the ranking for that keyword search anyway won't they? So how does this help at all?

      Hope this helps

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      • Profile picture of the author Mr_Lauri
        Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

        If they are sites which have shown up because of the keywords I used in the search then they will be high in the ranking for that keyword search anyway won't they? So how does this help at all?

        You should use the allintitle, -achor, -url to identify what amount of numbers are against you. obviously if you have over 1'000'000 in title and 100'000 in url results, then you're facing tough times. then that is too big then. but this is obvious...

        now what you SHOULD do, is to get you GOOD keyword research TOOL and start getting those low competition keywords. if you are using just google to identify your competition, then you are just throwing hours in the trash.

        a great keyword tool is something you should consider. the niche you are in, is quite saturated and you should try to find the long tail keywords.

        if you are just starting to promote your business, it might take several months (even years) for a newish site to appear in the first page for saturated keywords (like internet marketing).

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        • Profile picture of the author Martin N Smith
          I've recently found that only 50% of my links (via Angela & Paul's packets) are actually being cached by Google.

          The profiles are unique as they come and I always try to differentiate them from the hordes of other profiles being created (for SEO purposes) - and to give the search bots the best possible change of finding them.

          So my scenario is a little different. I have done the KW research, I have all the 'on site' SEO sorted (KW in title tag, content, H1s etc) BUT, and this is the BIG BUT.....how the heck can you give google a little 'nudge' if it hasn't found half of the back links you have created?????

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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Walker
          Originally Posted by loxebuz View Post

          You should use the allintitle, -achor, -url to identify what amount of numbers are against you. obviously if you have over 1'000'000 in title and 100'000 in url results, then you're facing tough times. then that is too big then. but this is obvious...

          now what you SHOULD do, is to get you GOOD keyword research TOOL and start getting those low competition keywords. if you are using just google to identify your competition, then you are just throwing hours in the trash.

          a great keyword tool is something you should consider. the niche you are in, is quite saturated and you should try to find the long tail keywords.

          if you are just starting to promote your business, it might take several months (even years) for a newish site to appear in the first page for saturated keywords (like internet marketing).

          Hi and thanks for this.

          Can you recommend a good (free?) keyword tool? I've heard Market Samurai is good but it costs!

          The other thing is people are saying to me that I need to do my keyword research but also I feel that once I've done it and got a killer long tail keyword I'll need to then build a new website and product around it. Is this correct and is it the way I should be going or can I still find a less competitive keywords for my make money online website?


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  • Profile picture of the author Kris Turner
    I can only repeat what's been said. Way too competitive.

    I'm always surprised at how easy it is to rank quickly for fairly competitive terms, but there's another level above those that I just wouldn't waste my mind going near.

    If you put the same effort into some slightly less competitive keywords, I'm sure you'll be rewarded.
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    I believe the keyword tool in Market Samauri is free to use forever. It is a hook to keep you using the product until you finally buy it.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    Kevin, it's all about finding a good balance using all of those criteria. Search volume (exact match), intitle results, lowish or none targeted anchors used in the top sites backlinks etc. With software it's quick and easy to filter the list down to those 'golden' few by setting the threshold for each one.

    What are you actually doing for link building now apart from creating profile pages?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Walker

      Originally Posted by AndyBlackSEO View Post

      Kevin, it's all about finding a good balance using all of those criteria.
      Originally Posted by AndyBlackSEO View Post

      Could you give some further examples please? Search volume (exact match), intitle results, Could you clarify on this next point? lowish or none targeted anchors used in the top sites backlinks etc. With software it's quick and easy to filter the list down to those 'golden' few by setting the threshold for each one. Which software would you recommend -priced and free!

      What are you actually doing for link building now apart from creating profile pages? I'm building backlinks (Angela's packets), setting up link wheels, links from my Twitter profile and tweets, etc.; Viviastreet, Gumtree and Inetgiant (all three for free ads); Google Adwords; various blogs; e-zine articles; my websites; SEO; Facebook; banner ads/impressions; various fora; The Viral Secret; You Tube; Traffic Geyser; safe lists; Skype; mailing lists; The Huge List Building Secret; Viral Submitter; Submitwolf; Turn-Key Marketing Group and The Inner Circle; Free WSO's; contests and competitions; mailing lists and e-mail campaigns; search engine submissions; link lists; etc,etc,etc

      Is this enough?



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    Hi Warriors, I hope you all had a good weekend?

    This may be slightly off topic so I'll post it here and also start another thread with it as well - I hope that's within the rules? Here goes!

    I just did a search under my keywords ''make money online'' and got nowhere out of 1,000. Then I did a search on my ''company'' name of kewcotrading (no spaces) and got the number one spot on page one of Google for my Twitter profile page. Also I was in every position on the next ten pages of the search results (I stopped checking every page after page ten but a random check showed I was on further pages also) - all for third party sites with a link to my Twitter page or one of the two website pages I'm currently promoting.

    I'm not sure how good this is (I need some time to figure it all out), but I was wondering if you or anyone else could advise me on how I might exploit it (if at all) in order to drive more traffic to my site and get sign ups to list, conversions and sales?

    Many thanks again.

    Regards, Kevin.
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    Just an example, btw dottie's weight loss zine is not amazon product, I forgot to correct it when I try to posts.

    I think I've show enough here.

    I don't see any value to "snot gobblers" ... at least both UK and USA keyword tools doesn't show enough searches.
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    I believe you received a lot of valuable information from your fellow warriors. They are spot on when they say try a less competitve keyword and go for a long tail KW of about 4 words. I have client that wanted to be ranked for earn money at home and was able to get his website to the first page of Google and Yahoo using Article submissions, Directory submissions, social bookmarking, link wheel (Open), A great amount of blog commenting, Angela packets and Pauls packets. This took about three months to acheive. However, you have to keep working at even if you do get it to the first page otherwise it will drop very quickly. His kw brought him a lot of other broad search terms using that kw and traffic. Hope this helps...
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      Long tail keywords are king. Plus, visitors just love it when they type a "how to" phrase in the search and your site pops up. You have gained a customer for life.
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  • Profile picture of the author EricOM
    Ive just downloaded a free trial of Market Samurai.Played about with it for about 1/2 an hour + then decided to follow the instructions at Noble Samurai dojo. Wow, its like someone switched the light on!
    Im only on lesson 2 + the penny has dropped. Ive basically wasted the last 3 years fumbling around, lost in the dark.
    Kevin, even if you dont buy the product - at £70 you would be mad not to- the instruction supplied on keyword research is invaluable.
    Added to the extremely valuable + free information from other Warriors, what a fantastic thread for anyone like us starting out.
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    You need other methods to obtain the search engine ranking.
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