Did you know its a piece of cake to destroy your competition in SERPS?

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Till the time this thread gets deleted, I'd much rather have new visitors read some good info I posted on another thread:

I call this method the "Competitor Piggyback'

Here's a simple but very effective method to get ranked higher in the search engines.

We all know that backlinks are very a important factor contributing to your rankings.

But the question is WHERE do you place your links?

After you've done the social bookmarking, Web 2.0, directory submissions etc., you can add this to your backlinking arsenal.

So here's the step-by-step method:

1) Do a search of your primary keyword in Google.
2) Make note of the URL's of all the websites in top 10 ('www' matters)
3) Go to Backlinks Checker Tool - Backlink Watch
4) Put the URL in the searchbox and see the results that come up.
5) The results will show the exact URLs which links back to that website. It'll also show the actual 'anchor text' of the backlink and 'total number of links on that page' and whether the link is nofollow or not.
6) Open up the URL's one by one and see if you can place a link on that URL like your competitor has (Forum, comment etc.)

No need to open up the URL's which have 'nofollow' associated with them.

Basically we're piggybacking on the competitor's strategy, and picking out the best URL's where the competitor has placed their link and placing our link on that URL.

We don't have to go around looking for URL's to backlink anymore. Our competitors will give them to us
#cake #competition #destroy #piece #serps
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    How would you know if your competitor is using paid links? If smart site owners are paying for a link - you won't know about it.

    I prefer to make my sites good enough to rank well with competing sites rather than run as a tattletale to momma google. You may think it's totally anonymous but I wouldn't count on that with google.

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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce Hearder
      How many bogus complaints do you think BigG recieves everyday?

      Literally thousands maybe milltions!!!

      How many do you think they respond abnd act on?

      ZERO - ZILCH - NONE.....

      This form is purely up there to give irate "small mineded" business owners a "warm inner glow" that they are doing something.

      It doesn't work, and BigG does care what you complain about..They simply don't care..

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  • Profile picture of the author freelikehell
    Search for your competitor's backlinks on: Backlinks Checker Tool - Backlink Watch

    You can do a LOT with this website.

    See where your competition is 'posting comments' and post there too.
    See which forums your competition is active on.
    Basically see every link which links back to your competition and then just copy what they've done
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    Freelikehell,

    I'm glad your not someone I do business with or neighbours with.

    If you lived near me, you would probably report my cat for meowing too loudly or for catching mice.

    Get a life.

    Sam
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    See, to me this is rather like cheating...

    I'd rather work hard and surpass my competition than simply using an out like tattling on them to get them to "go away".
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  • Profile picture of the author EvcRo
    Anyone can report anyone about paid links, it's up to Google to decide. If there are paid links on same topic sites it's called advertising. If on not relevant sites than maybe you have a slight chance to harm your competition.

    P.S. Do you know , Google Adsense are paid links .... BUT RELEVANT.
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  • Profile picture of the author freelikehell
    Hey,

    Don't go blasting on me. I've never used this and never intend to.
    Its just an idea that occured to me and I'm passing it on.
    Whoever uses it, its their conscience.

    Its like this: You can't blame all the bombings in the world on Alfred Nobel just because he discovered dynamite.
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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

      Hey,

      Don't go blasting on me. I've never used this and never intend to.
      Its just an idea that occured to me and I'm passing it on.
      Whoever uses it, its their conscience.

      Its like this: You can't blame all the bombings in the world on Alfred Nobel just because he discovered dynamite.
      Well then why are you sharing something you haven't even tried not to mention being pretty shady?! Are you just trying to up your posts? This forum isn't here to tell people how to cheat others or to hurt other businesses. That's why you are being "blasted" and I think you need to rethink your ideas on how you do business!
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    • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
      Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

      Hey,

      Don't go blasting on me. I've never used this and never intend to.
      Its just an idea that occured to me and I'm passing it on.
      Whoever uses it, its their conscience.

      Its like this: You can't blame all the bombings in the world on Alfred Nobel just because he discovered dynamite.
      I'm not saying you have used this technique, but you went to enough trouble to post about it, to find the relevant link to report it, and to promote the idea as a plan for Warriors to use.

      Now, If Alfred Nobel who discovered dynamite had taken the dynamite to a terrorist, explained to them how to use it, where to buy it, and then claimed his hands were clean...Then your comparison to Alfred Nobel would be accurate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary King
      Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

      Hey,

      Don't go blasting on me. I've never used this and never intend to.
      Its just an idea that occured to me and I'm passing it on.
      Whoever uses it, its their conscience.

      Its like this: You can't blame all the bombings in the world on Alfred Nobel just because he discovered dynamite.
      Yes, but you posted it as a technique to "destroy your competition".

      Dynamite has wonderful uses for exploding suspicious things recovered by bomb disposal units, mining, etc...

      You seem to be on a roll trying to offer helpful posts and build your reputation - that's awesome. Just keep in mind that a post that has useful techniques, encouragement, etc. will go a lot further in those areas than a controversial post saying "hey, you can destroy your competition" with this underhanded technique to get them dropped like a bag of dirt from Google.

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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

      Hey,

      Don't go blasting on me. I've never used this and never intend to.
      Its just an idea that occured to me and I'm passing it on.
      Whoever uses it, its their conscience.

      Its like this: You can't blame all the bombings in the world on Alfred Nobel just because he discovered dynamite.
      Oh come on. We're not stupid here. You opened mouth and inserted foot and now want to know how to undo it. Next time, think before you talk. If you think these black hat ideas are a good idea, there are other forums that will go Rah Rah Rah ... Hooray. Great Idea. Not this one.
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    • Profile picture of the author KateD
      Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

      Hey,

      Don't go blasting on me. I've never used this and never intend to.
      Its just an idea that occured to me and I'm passing it on.
      Whoever uses it, its their conscience.

      Its like this: You can't blame all the bombings in the world on Alfred Nobel just because he discovered dynamite.
      This is one of the dumbest comments I have seen posted on the forum.

      KateD
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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Originally Posted by KateD View Post

        This is one of the dumbest comments I have seen posted on the forum.

        KateD
        It is far from it :p.
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

      Hey,

      Don't go blasting on me. I've never used this and never intend to.
      Its just an idea that occured to me and I'm passing it on.
      Whoever uses it, its their conscience.

      Its like this: You can't blame all the bombings in the world on Alfred Nobel just because he discovered dynamite.

      Hopefully by now you've realized that this is not the kind of forum where
      you can post underhand techniques. Since you've changed your original
      post, I'm not going to comment on it.

      FYI, Nobel went to the grave bitterly regretting his invention. I suppose
      that's why the Nobel prizes were setup.

      HTH

      Glenn
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  • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
    Maybe you should report people for buying PAID LINKS on Google too...
    aka: adWords??

    Shocking... especially how the post is worded. Sigh!
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  • Profile picture of the author freelikehell
    @Karl and @evcro

    It seems the two words I mentioned: 'paid links' were taken too harshly.
    By paid links, I mean those links that are bought to increase the PR of another site or to increase the rankings. (O dang, I DID mention this in my opening post)

    If you need some detail clarification on what I mean by a 'paid link' please read this: Paid links - Webmaster Tools Help
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    • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
      Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

      It seems the two words I mentioned: 'paid links' were taken too harshly.
      No... what was taken harshly was this:

      destroy your competition in SERPS?
      It's also very easy to burn down your local WalMart if you're a small grocery store... does that mean it SHOULD be done?

      Competition comes from the word COMPETE, not SABOTAGE.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun Lee
    This guy is just sharing, don't go so hard on him. He's just trying to be a nice guy.

    What goes around, comes around.

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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun Lee
    freelikehell, I recommend you to delete this thread before attracting even more fire.

    It's good to share, but try share ideas that doesn't attacking other people.

    -Shaun
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  • Profile picture of the author Erica Leggette
    Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

    I'm not really sure how this post will be taken here in the WF because if this falls into wrong hands, then it may be used wrongly (is that a word?)

    Here's the thing.

    If you have suspicion that your competition is using 'paid link' to get a better PR or a better ranking then you can report that website to Google and they'll have it noted within 48 hours.

    So if you know your competition is ranking good because of purchasing links, then you have a shot.

    Here's where you go and report it to them:
    https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/paidlinks

    Its completely anonymous and it will result in decreasing the PR of your competition and even throwing them down in the SERPS.

    There you go, short and sweet. Don't abuse this technique and don't go around wildly reporting everyone.

    Lord save your competition :rolleyes:

    Dang...
    I sure hope nobody gets report crazy just to knock down the competition. Most of us use extra marketing techniques to increase rankings. That's a part of the game. Obviously google has a problem with it but I bet they have a problem with some of the basic methods of increasing rankings that we all know and most probably practice. I honestly think that google wants us to have such a hard time getting traffic that we have no choice but to get into paying them for advertising. Which can be a good thing at times so I have read.

    If there are ways the we can find out whether a site has paid links or not then surely google should be able to detect that also. They don't need our help with that part. If anything, they probably take action on this type of linking because they didn't get a piece of that pie.

    Don't report people unless it's scam or spam. The rest if fair game at least to me.

    Picture this, report a site for using paid links, the site gets dropped in the serps.
    This site owner recognizes the greed in cyber space and sign up for ppc for the hell of it. Account gets approved, same links still in tact but now google is happy and the site is back in action now, still on top now that profit is on the way for the big g. Save yourself the bad business karma and just reach your audience the best way you can.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    If this method is not for you why would you even bother to pass it along to others in the first place?
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  • Profile picture of the author acrasial
    LOL> I just feel sorry for the OP. I think you meant well in the end, for people who are breaking TOS rules directly, and are using BlueFart methods etc etc etc...then definitely you meant well.


    However the fear that this tool will be misused overshadows your intentions here...unfortunately.
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  • Profile picture of the author freelikehell
    Thanks acrasial,

    Didn't know I would get flamed just for sharing an idea.

    And KateD, I'm not really sure what set you off, but that's just plain rude.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
      Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

      Thanks acrasial,

      Didn't know I would get flamed just for sharing an idea.

      And KateD, I'm not really sure what set you off, but that's just plain rude.
      Post a dumb idea that you haven't tried
      and don't be surprised if you get questioned
      and challenged.

      I couldn't care less what you do or don't do.

      But I do care if you mislead other people by
      posting something that contravenes the TOS
      of legitimate sites.

      And I do care when you encourage other folks
      to do something that you haven't even tested.

      Compound that by posting an SEO topic in the
      main forum... just a waste of the moderators
      valuable time.

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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

      Thanks acrasial,

      Didn't know I would get flamed just for sharing an idea.

      And KateD, I'm not really sure what set you off, but that's just plain rude.
      I wouldn't worry too much about it. We won't remember it beyond this post unless you were to continue to post Black Hat/questionable methods. So just look at it like a learning experience.

      One thing I can tell you is that every forum has it's own culture and the WF has a very unique culture. It really pays to just keep quiet and read a bit before posting to get a feel for the culture of the forum that you are in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    Didn't know I would get flamed just for sharing an idea.
    Sharing an idea that is distinctly negative? Really, you're surprised you got flamed?
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  • Profile picture of the author acrasial
    I really wish people would just report this thread already. You could all be spending your time adding SOME REAL INPUT to this forum elsewhere, and you could also be spending your time making this forum a better place by adding marketing tips, that relate to internet marketing.


    Flame wars and personal attacks are not as useful as some may think. You are also only enticing the guy now. Be good warriors!
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      Well....he's thinking outside the box at least!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Huh? Has the original post been edited/changed? I don't see anything about paid links or reporting competitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author freelikehell
    @ Dennis - Yea, the earlier post was taken negatively so I put in an alternate technique (which I think is great)
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

      @ Dennis - Yea, the earlier post was taken negatively so I put in an alternate technique (which I think is great)
      I thought so...the alternate technique is useful for those that didn't already know it.

      I do hope you've learned something from your experience with this thread. The admonitions may have seemed harsh to you, but they were really made in your best interests and the best interests of the forum. Long term success isn't built on dirty tricks, but on sound strategies implemented with integrity.

      Good luck.
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  • Sabotage is the new black hat thing but like the keyword stuffing and invisible text techniques of old, it will eventually work against you. It's totally ineffective anyway. A couple of my sites were attacked that way, and they're still cranking on the SERPs.

    Concentrate on making your own sites better than those of your competitors. That's how to "destroy" your competition.
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    • Profile picture of the author armadin
      Originally Posted by SurviveUnemployment View Post

      Concentrate on making your own sites better than those of your competitors. That's how to "destroy" your competition.
      In my opinon, that is always the best tactic and I will bow down to anyone who mentions this anywhere, WF is so full of fair play and intelligent individuals who understand the importance of playing correctly and not treating your competition like dirt, if this was a place of no morals and blackhatters, I would leave quicker then it takes to fry an egg.

      Good on everyone for being the way you are
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    I prefer not to waste my time running after competition, in the time it takes you to do that I can have 50 backlinks done... And yes No follow DOES MATTER, because the fact is no follow and do follow means nothing at all..

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    Out of Yahoo quota for today. Total 50,000 queries executed already.


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    I wanted to find out what he said, then I when to his site, and I got the above message.
    lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      So you start a controversial topic to get attention - and then replace your original post with something else?

      You don't even WANT to know what I think of members who use that trick.

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  • Profile picture of the author acrasial
    FreelikeHell...can I give you once piece of advice:

    RUN LIKE HELL, from this thread. You got the message, you learned your lesson. Now you are trying to undo that and are trying to prove yourself to the people in this thread.


    The very same people who didn't mind being very harsh to you just not even an hour ago. Then they are trying to impress the idea that your original actions were not welcome and are pretty low, snake-like, and vile...


    It will get to you, those kinds of comments. They are designed to make you think, and to make you question yourself. But they can also make you feel a bit hurt and upset, which then causes this thread to continue on and on and on.


    So Freelikehell...I suggest you RUN-LIKE-HELL, and avoid this thread from now on, since you got the message, and everyone else made their point. Don't come back here, don't post on here, and if possible don't even read any further posts/replies to this thread.


    That is what you need to do now, look forward and progress forward. People won't get over it in a day, but continuously coming here in this very thread only reminds them of what happened.

    Time to move forward, and you can't do that in this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author mainstreetcm
    To me this seems like "ass-whipping" territory and completley out of line. The way I see it the more you focus on being better than the competition the better off you will be. No need to be scandelous about it, just offer a better product...
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    For the life of me, I can't see what is wrong with finding out who your competition is linking from and copying them. Every web site owner wants to be higher in the SERPs than their competition, this is a simple way to get a lot of link sites for free, instead of buying them from Angela or Paul or any of the others that sell them on this forum. And put your links there.

    I don't want to destroy my competition, but I do want to do as well or rather better, if I can. This seems to me to be a way to possibly accomplish that.

    I don't understand why the OP is getting so many harsh comments. I don't see much wrong with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Tim -

      It's because the OP went back and changed his entire first post.

      Originally he was suggesting reporting competitors sites to google for "buying links". It was a bait and switch just to get attention. He deserved every comment he got.
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      • Profile picture of the author timpears
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Tim -

        It's because the OP went back and changed his entire first post.

        Originally he was suggesting reporting competitors sites to google for "buying links". It was a bait and switch just to get attention. He deserved every comment he got.
        Obviously he did that before I read the thread. I don't agree with that. Why would I care if someone wants to buy links. It is none of my business.
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    • Profile picture of the author beachrat
      For the life of me, I can't see what is wrong with finding out who your competition is linking from and copying them. Every web site owner wants to be higher in the SERPs than their competition, this is a simple way to get a lot of link sites for free, instead of buying them from Angela or Paul or any of the others that sell them on this forum. And put your links there.

      I don't want to destroy my competition, but I do want to do as well or rather better, if I can. This seems to me to be a way to possibly accomplish that.

      I don't understand why the OP is getting so many harsh comments. I don't see much wrong with it.
      Can't let the secrets out maybe?
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  • Profile picture of the author Amitywill
    Honestly all I can say is that I'm ashamed there are losers like you
    in the SEO community.

    People like you that have to try and sabbotage peoples hard efforts
    by snitching to Google just because you can't rank yourself.

    This sort of stuff really gets on my nerves.

    And did you really think people were going to read this and take it well?

    Your basically telling us to stab each other in the back and snitch on
    each other to try and destroy peoples ranking, income and hard work
    all to get rid of one less competitor in Google.

    Idiot.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizousoft
    Originally Posted by freelikehell View Post

    Till the time this thread gets deleted, I'd much rather have new visitors read some good info I posted on another thread:

    I call this method the "Competitor Piggyback'

    Here's a simple but very effective method to get ranked higher in the search engines.

    We all know that backlinks are very a important factor contributing to your rankings.

    But the question is WHERE do you place your links?

    After you've done the social bookmarking, Web 2.0, directory submissions etc., you can add this to your backlinking arsenal.

    So here's the step-by-step method:

    1) Do a search of your primary keyword in Google.
    2) Make note of the URL's of all the websites in top 10 ('www' matters)
    3) Go to Backlinks Checker Tool - Backlink Watch
    4) Put the URL in the searchbox and see the results that come up.
    5) The results will show the exact URLs which links back to that website. It'll also show the actual 'anchor text' of the backlink and 'total number of links on that page' and whether the link is nofollow or not.
    6) Open up the URL's one by one and see if you can place a link on that URL like your competitor has (Forum, comment etc.)

    No need to open up the URL's which have 'nofollow' associated with them.

    Basically we're piggybacking on the competitor's strategy, and picking out the best URL's where the competitor has placed their link and placing our link on that URL.

    We don't have to go around looking for URL's to backlink anymore. Our competitors will give them to us
    The plan is good but I couldn't even piggy bank one of my own sites... I had links from people that referenced the tool on the site in their blog posts, I can't imagine contacting everyone of those and asking them to put another link on their site.
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    • Profile picture of the author beachrat
      You know what they say when you get close to the truth!

      A few folk are getting pretty upset here for simply using a shortcut. I didn't visit the website but I'm sure it's no different the using FOXY SEO toolbar and checking backlinks from yahoo, then checking out those pages.

      And the word "destroy", heck, I see that crap everywhere. "New product destroys the competition". Clickbank and other products are loaded with it.

      You did get flamed pretty hard. LOL!
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  • Profile picture of the author halfpoint
    Originally Posted by Daniel McGonagle View Post

    Did this guy edit his original post?

    Analyzing a competitor's link profile is standard SEO practice and there's nothing wrong with trying to emulate the linking patterns of your competitors
    Yes, he did.

    From what I gather he was initially saying to go through your competitors backlinks and then report them for spam. I didn't see the initial post so that might not be entirely correct.
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  • Profile picture of the author carertet
    I dunno, this post seems to be pretty well common sense really. Sorry, but true.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketItAll
    This is something that I have been doing now for some time. I use Market Samurai to help me out with this, I love that tool!

    But this is definitely a good method to use in order to get up there with your competitors.
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    He was just share and no effort.
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