Can SEO Backlinking Word For Stupid People Like Me?

by Nirvanos

Posted: 13 years ago 9 replies

Help a newb out... But here's the thing, I also want to remain a newb, because I'm kind of stupid. What do I mean?

Well, this forum and SEO theory in general seems to be so full of theory and systems and debates and discussions, its just too complex for me. So I basically want to keep to a stupid, simple system... My question to you, will it work?

From what I've gathered so far... This is a system that I can work with
(please critique).

Basically, I'd just
- Build a 100 back-links (to main blog) from web 2.0 properties over a year (from a dozen or so top web 2.0 properties)
- Submit a 100 articles linking (to main blog) over a year (from a dozen or so top article directories)
- Backlink to site from a 20 different posts from many different related forums (where I'd build up a presence with value-giving posts, not just spam, maybe mention a link only after 20 good posts)
- Backlink (100 times) to site by commenting to related blogs

All of this would be unique, high-quality content...

Now, what BASICS am I missing? Like I know there are thousands of different factors and things, but I'm kind of stupid. If there are too many factors in a plan, I'll just screw it up.

What are these basics that I'm missing? What's the 10% that brings 90% of the results, but I didn't include in my plan above? What are the top, basic ways of building backlinks except:

forums
web 2.0
article directories
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- 4morereferrals 13 years ago
  
  Hamid touched on some of it - hard to help unless we know what your niches [ general areas ] might be.
  
  Do you have to get new customers/leads/prospects by traffic from Organic Search [ google rankings ] or is your system or product one that could make sales by emailing lists?
  
  Hard to know ..but - the objective is always about traffic and eyeballs on your offer that might hit the buy it now button - right?
  
  Whether its best to have that traffic arrive from google yahoo bing or ... an email list is the unknown.
  
  The best stupid simple system is building a LIST. Done correctly with that you can drive traffic to anything you like.
  
  ... or use it all
  
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kkchoon

13 years ago

You might want to learn from these guys:

1. SEO Fast Start - Free SEO Book: Read SEO Fast Start by Dan Thies
2. SEO Mindset - Brad Callen's SEO Mindset eBook
3. Newbie Blueprint - The Newbie Blueprint System - Make Money Online With No Money!

Good luck to your journey of SEO!

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Nirvanos

13 years ago

Originally Posted by kkchoon

You might want to learn from these guys:

1. SEO Fast Start
2. SEO Mindset
3. Newbie Blueprint

Good luck to your journey of SEO!

I read all the newbie 200-300 page SEO books... As I said, they do more to confuse than simplify. I've found in most areas in IM, you can summarize the stuff that matters in like 1 page, preferably a paragraph. Being that I haven't mastered SEO yet, I can't filter through what's fluff, what's the KEY stuff, what's the little details that don't matter.

So in particular, I'm asking for specifics on the following...

I have some dozen blogs... Let me illustrate where one is on average for me right now... I'm targetting a keyword with a 100k competition. Just by having done the regular dozen or so backlinks, and some good two dozen articles... I'm already position 50-200... Would the following strategy work to get me noticeable changes in traffic?

- Build a 100 back-links (to main blog) from web 2.0 properties over a year (from a dozen or so top web 2.0 properties)
- Submit a 100 articles linking (to main blog) over a year (from a dozen or so top article directories)
- Backlink to site from a 20 different posts from many different related forums (where I'd build up a presence with value-giving posts, not just spam, maybe mention a link only after 20 good posts)
- Backlink (100 times) to site by commenting to related blogs

Again, I'm not asking if I'll wake up rich tommorow, or if its the best most ideal strategy. Just does it work to produce noticeable increases in traffic and rank for the hypothetical example. The reason I ask is because the more I learn about backlinks and SEO the more I learn there's a ton of contradictory theories, and confusion, and untested hypothesis... Which tells me, there must be something that really matters or is the basics.

What do I have amazingly wrong or right in the example system above?

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4morereferrals

13 years ago

- Build a 100 back-links (to main blog) from web 2.0 properties over a year (from a dozen or so top web 2.0 properties)
- Submit a 100 articles linking (to main blog) over a year (from a dozen or so top article directories)
- Backlink to site from a 20 different posts from many different related forums (where I'd build up a presence with value-giving posts, not just spam, maybe mention a link only after 20 good posts)
- Backlink (100 times) to site by commenting to related blogs

But .... you said you wanted simple?

Surround your $ site with quality parasite hosted unique content on:

- Vox
- LiveJournal
- Wordpress.com
- Blogger
- WMPU's sites
- Squidoo perhaps
- Multiply
- any pr4 + web 2.0 domain where you can blog and links are doFollow
- EZA
- Go If you love article directories

6- 8 - 10 sites - increment of 2 above 6 ... [ for future backlinking purposes ]

Put 2-3 ;ieces of decent to good content on each of the parasite hosted blogs. Put a link to the $ site on these parasite pages, and one link out to a very high authority site like CNN.com, Yahoo or Bing or .gov, and perhaps a link to one other parasite hub page - like a link wheel.

I use these parasite hosts a link spam firewall ...

Now get a few articles linking to just these parasite hosts - and not the $$$ site - 2-3 articles perhaps ...

then gather up all your parasite host's urls ...10 parasite hosts pages urls. Now take longtail variations of your keywords and connect those longtails to the url of your parasite hosted blogs and anchor text backlink all those 10 urls like a BANSHEE ... forums, scrapebox, link farm evolution, outsourcers, XRumer Runs, and ....

Article Cartel [ 10 articles per month with 3 links ea ] across 4300 domains ... $88

Essentially your throwing a boatload of link juice at the 10 sites that can theoretically handle all the links ... they gain in PR and link value ...

you MAY want to throw all those links at the parasites hosts - let them hit a few PR updates, and then place links to your $$$ site after the sites are stable, and have PR. Id prefer to have my outbound link on a PR3-4 page of a parasite host blog - in the post body content - but Id take a blogroll link on that page just as well.

at then end - you might have 10 PR3-4 pages resting on a main authority domain with a PR of 6-7 - all point at your site ...

Then you can go out and build harder to find more quality type links to directly link to your $$$ page.

Then you might be able to trade links - like - I'll put a link on one of my PR3-4 blog pages for a link on your PR3 page - not back to my Vox blog - but to my $$$ site.

Now you have 10 of those to barter with, and its not a direct reciprocal link either.

Just some idears ...

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Nirvanos

13 years ago

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Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

But .... you said you wanted simple?

Yes, I said simple, not easy or over-night. I'm in a niche that I'm actually passionate about. I can write and contribute hundreds of comments and posts of actual value per week, sometimes even in one day, while having fun at it.

Simple:

- Go to forum about this subject I love, post a few posts... casually mention my site in one of them
- Go to blog about subject I love, post a value-filled comment... casually mention how my site relates
Etc...

Seems pretty simple to me? Am I missing something? Will it not work if I just do this? I'm not interested in gray-hat tactics, not even borderline.

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4morereferrals

13 years ago

Sure man - that will work.

Establish an authority blog and the link juice will flow! But few people have the time and passion, and patience.

Niche related links only matter from a standpoint of human traffic clicking them - no serp bonus for relevance of the domain your linking from ... nothing anyone can measure.

But the thing is - if you're competition - which we know nothing about, is using also building good content AND using backlinking automation and an army of outsourced backlinkers and ... X and Y and Z ... you can blog great stuff all you want and they will still kick yer ass in the SERP's.

Short story ...

There was a guy in one of my niches who was an article marketer - well he's still there but not really. He has well over 1,000 EZA articles and 80% of them have my keywords in the title and in the body. I dont recall his other Of Page SEO backlinks though.

He only outranked me for about 1 month - and he's still pumping out articles ... I wrote 3-4.

3 articles and boatloads of backlinks ... #2-5 page 1

1,000's of articles - p2 and pg1 occasionally no higher than 8 mostly on page 2 #11 or 15.

Passion is great. Ranking and making money is better [ imho ]

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Nirvanos

13 years ago

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Niche related links only matter from a standpoint of human traffic clicking them - no serp bonus for relevance of the domain your linking from ... nothing anyone can measure.

Really? I didn't know that! I assumed google would highly favor links from related sites.

But ya, anyway, its easier to write on forums in my niche, because I don't have to think... Words just flow out... So its easy to comment/post on my niche. Its good to know I can casually mention my sites on completely unrelated blogs/forums and still have it count just as much.

Thanks for that tip.

Sure man - that will work.

Awesome. That's what I wanted to know. If it will work "good enough" to get at least decent results. For now (while I'm doing most of the work myself), I just need a strategy that's good enough. No need to dominate on my own... I'll outsource when I need to get from decent to great.

Establish an authority blog and the link juice will flow! But few people have the time and passion, and patience.

That's why in the long term they're always screwed

I'm taking a 2-year view on this project.

But the thing is - if you're competition - which we know nothing about, is using also building good content AND using backlinking automation and an army of outsourced backlinkers and ... X and Y and Z ... you can blog great stuff all you want and they will still kick yer ass in the SERP's.

Short story ...

There was a guy in one of my niches who was an article marketer - well he's still there but not really. He has well over 1,000 EZA articles and 80% of them have my keywords in the title and in the body. I dont recall his other Of Page SEO backlinks though.

He only outranked me for about 1 month - and he's still pumping out articles ... I wrote 3-4.

3 articles and boatloads of backlinks ... #2-5 page 1

1,000's of articles - p2 and pg1 occasionally no higher than 8 mostly on page 2 #11 or 15.

Passion is great. Ranking and making money is better [ imho ]

Ya, very good points. Thanks for the help.

Here's the one factor that makes the difference. I'm super-duper-ultra productive in this simple method. I.e. I can crank out hundreds of high-value pieces a week from my niche... whereas... trying to understand the more complex strategies, makes my head hurt so much (remember i'm kinda stupid)... that I can't get much stuff done. So I keep to the simple stuff, coz I can actually get it done. Hundred pieces of basic work outweigh 1 piece of badly done advanced work.

So... All I wanted to know is if this simple strategy will work "good enough" to improve traffic fairly a lot. Once profit is up, if my competition is really good, and I have space left to improve... I'll just hire someone advanced to consult me, and I'll outsource that work.

Do you do this kind of work btw? Seeing that you're linking to the infamous backlinkgoldmine, I'm assuming you're the author? Or do you know anyone you can recommend that does consulting? I'm not looking for it for the moment, but want to have someone in my list for my long-term plan, once I reach that need.

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Nirvanos 13 years ago

Thanks guys for the answers! I will clarify.

I'm not new to IM, just to advanced SEO.

- I already have my monetization down pat. About 10% of the people which land on my sites (its all seo traffic) sign-up for my list... Yes, 10% of the people who click on a random google listing leading to my site (blogs), end up signing up for my list.
-I already have ON-site SEO handled
-My niches are in personal development sub-niches... range from 10k up to 500k competition... mostly sub 50k.

So to clarify my question... What is the simplest/stupidest way to get more traffic for the keywords I am targeting?
- Thanks
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