I'm an SEO For Amazon

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well not officially.

I'm just an affiliate, but the way I see it is, I'm helping them get more sales through organic search, and I'm getting payed nicely for it

You see, Amazon rank pretty OK for everything really, because of the power of the domain...but not amazingly well.

So I pick popular products, build a small website for a particular group of keywords and then using a very simple seo strategy (build a few links using a few different sources) I rank within days, if not weeks tops.

I love this model, because I've got it to a tee.

I spend most days trawling Amazon looking for new products.

Every week I build a new site, sometimes 2. I have over 30 now, generating a nice monthly income.

Just one crap website keeps making me about £50 a month. It took an hour to make.

My point is, find a strategy and stick to it, just for the sake of it. That's what I did. It was painful. I thought I was missing out on other stuff. But I humoured myself and stayed with a strategy that was making me next to nothing, and turning into a near enough full time income within months.

Think, what small amounts of money have you made online in the past year? Could you multiply your efforts using this one strategy/niche/process and make more?
#search engine optimization #amazon #seo
  • ... and here, folks, is the secret of success as far as this line of "work" goes.

    For all the different methods out there, in their varying degrees of complexity, sometimes boiling everything back to basics, devising a very simple strategy and just implementing it day-by-day can bring you much more favourable results.

    How many people are there out there -- on this very forum, no less -- buying product after product, ebook after ebook about the latest and greatest "fast track" method to hundreds/thousands (or, even more) of dollars per month and have been doing the same darn thing over and over, chasing their own tail, for months or even years?

    C'mon, hands up, seriously. I'd wager a bet that there's a lot of people who have and continue to do just that.

    ... and you probably already know all about SEO, keywords, backlinks, etc. All the skills you need to make some blo*dy good cash are right there within your person, and yet are continuously neglected and overlooked in favour of some secret-sauce method which ultimately rarely if ever brings you to achieve more than a series of headaches, a whole lot of headscratching and a worsening degree of lack of self confidence or faith in ones ability to make good money online.

    Soak it up. Take it in.

    Boil it down, devise a simple strategy, and execute it, and reap the rewards.

    I personally thank you immensely for this post, which I *know* holds true value and yet probably won't even be absorbed or acknowledged by most people who read it.
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  • Just wondering how big are your sites in terms number of pages?


  • Number of pages, about 5, sometimes less.

    I try to get 1000 words on homepage, and 250-500 on inner pages. I outsource a lot of this but find it a bit less of a hassle in a way to do it myself.

    I like the idea of ousourcing, I just can't get into it.
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    • I respect what everyone on here does to make money, I just would never promote Amazon because of their one-day-only cookie. Most buyers search for several days before buying, plus I just won't promote them out of principal because I think that one day cookie is BS
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    • How do you build your sites? I'm a newcomer to all of this, enthusiastic and raring to go, I do seo - but........ have no idea how to build the site. Yes - sad isn't it.:confused:
      I don't even know how to put a wordpress on webspace lol.
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  • Hostgator about $10 /month or something like that.

    They have a thing called CPANEL you go to to set up new domains - dead easy.

    YOu add your new domain after pointing it at your hsoting nameservers (i know this sounds a bit technical but hostgator support will walk you through. once you do it once it becomes second nature)

    They then have, within cpanel a thing called fantastico, which is basically a one click install of wordpress on the domain.

    Good look
  • joewooweb-
    Thank you for writing this thread.

    I have been thinking about doing this because there seem to be so many unknown variables that can literally break you with regard to adsense.

    I was wondering, where are you getting positioned for your keywords? It seems that, when you search for a particular product (which would be your keywords), that the search engine results will almost always display shopping results at the top (with pictures/prices). How are you managing to compete with this? Also, are you saying that you are knocking out amazon and other merchants/retailers on the first page of google's search results for your keyword?

    Are you setting up one website per product or one website for a group of similar products (like 4 or 5)? Do you use the brand names in your domain name, or do you try to keep it generic, but specific?

    You made mention that one of your 'crap' sites sees $50/month - is this average for the remainder of your sites, or do your other sites typically generate less?

    How are you backlinking? I was looking at article submission by way of ezine/go.

    Do you look for products that fall within a specific price range (thus, generating more commission), or are you open for any/all products?

    Lastly, are you finding it difficult to find products that have little/less competition?

    I would be very interested to know how you research your products/keywords and the steps that are involved in doing so. Also, knowing how you're choosing your keywords and checking the level of competitors/competition would be a huge help.

    I appreciate you taking the time to read through all of my questions.
    I wish you the best for your online business.
    Regards,
    -M
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    • Murderface,

      Check out this course from a respected warrior on this forum, its a free vieo course which should answer your questions better than I can.

      supersimpleblogging.com
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    • keyword positions, usually top #10 within at most a couple of weeks, #1 within a couple of months, regardless of shopping results etc.

      If you see shopping results it's usually a good sign because they are USUALLY weak pages, with hardly any links, only ranking because of the power of the site.

      Yes, I knock Amazon and other shopping merchants out of the serps.

      Most of my sites are one product per site, some are a few it depends on my gut feel. Sometimes I do both and let one die, or let them both become successful. I sometimes use brand names in my domain names, because I'm a bit gangster like that When I'm doing a website for a group of products i'll try n get a generic name.

      Generally sites make between £10 and £50 a month. About a quarter/half of them don't make a penny

      Backlinks, I use a few blog submit tools (1waylinks, seo linkvine), I interlink between sites, I make sites purely just for backlinks to my money sites, I social bookmark, and link from forums.

      I've never had any luck with
      - articles
      - blog comments
      - link packets
      - directories

      I go for products between £50-£1000

      I research competition by looking at serps, all there is really. It's a numbers game. Do more, win more.


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  • Sounds like a possible ebook with all the right information here, thanks for sharing.
  • joewooweb-
    Thank you. That was an excellent post and an excellent response. I appreciate it.
    -M

    P.S. I'm surprised you weren't able to find any success by way of article submission.
  • I never have. Ever. I've been doing SEO for 5 years and in terms of boosting rankings, article submission is a waste of time for me anyway. I've done it myself, outsourced it, the lot.

    The only thing it's ever been good for for me is traffic.

    Forums work surprisingly better. A hell of a lot better.
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    • Im begining to take the opposite view to building micro niche sites and while there is nothing wrong with them and they do work I ask myself "why not expand to a broader niche" and build authority sites ?

      Same effort involved, individual product pages still get good ranking, maybe take slightly more backlinking BUT once you start ranking it is far easier to stick a few posts up around a product and start ranking without having to start from scratch with a brand new domain and hosting.

      Keep plugging away on these sites and pretty soon you are an authority where you can get front page rankings for multiple products, plus your sites keep on getting stronger month by month because you have tons of highly relevant content.

      Might take longer to rank initially but once you do its a compounding effect on the rest of your site.

      Think long term.
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    • stratzin,

      Ditch the a-store and start writing reviews of products, the search engines dont pick up the framed a-stores so all you have is a few lines of text promoting those products.

      Put your affiliate links into your text / reviews and add some clickable affiliate linked images of the products.

      Test it out, choose a low competition product, review it with the product name repeated in first paragraph and at the end.

      Ensure you have the product name in the page title, throw some backlinks at it and see if it hits the first few pages of google.

      This doesnt mean you will make any sales but it will show and teach you how to get products ranked.

      Make the product you are reviewing the page title of the page.
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    • What are you doing for backlinks?


  • Link to them from a higher powerpage if you haven't already done this...

    I've got absolute Dog Sh*t to rank before so I'm pretty sure it isn't anythin to do with the embedding...

    PM me if you like I'll be more than happy to help. I'm in a good mood
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  • What are your conversation rates? For example if someone search that keyword 30k times a month, how many of them usually buys the product? Don't say that it is random, please say some examples from your products. I really need to know this, thanks a lot.
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    • Lett,

      Conversion rates are good with amazon products, as long as you can get them to your site with buying keywords.

      Typically, Im running at around 10% with people that actually bother to click through on my links.

      Its all about how the customer finds your site though, if they are just generally surfing and killing time with obscure seaches then it wont be as high. Then again if they are doing highly targeted product searches then the conversions are good.
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  • 10% is a great conversation rate, Joe said that he makes about £50 per website. I am into amazon too, and i thought that conversation rates has to be awful, because i am going to make £50 if 1 of 10'000 people who search the term in google is going to buy the product.
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    • If 100 people find my site I might have 40% click on a link (not an exact figure but not far off).

      So around 10% people buy who click on links, so that is 4 people from 100 who actually buy who visit my site.

      My figures are actually higher than this so its a conservative estimate ( I have more than 4 in every 100 buying).

      Also, dont believe what google tells you, 10,000 searches can mean nothing. Only believe the traffic you get once you are no 1 for your keyword.
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  • And how much are you making per site? I guess he is making only £50 because he creates website for a new products who don't have that many searches in google because they are new. Could that be true?
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    • I never even look at conversion rates. OUt of interest I look at traffic and keywords...

      Most the time I just look at £££. It's the best part.

      These sites for me are just set and forget. Once I do one I won't ever change it again. BY the time I can even think about changin it I've built another.

      I just had a look to see if i could shine a light on this for you... this is out of my amazon account, first column is click to purchase conversion, second coloumn is clicks, and last column is ordered items (converstions):



      Here's a traffic sample for one of my sites from oct - mar... this site did about £300 in this period, probably more, with 20-30 visitors a day:


      With highly targetted keywords that can only mean the searcher wants to buy and has their credit card out, you don't need much traffic at all!



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  • There's a nice system here. I haven't figured out making decent money from Amazon yet, but I'll keep trying.

    I have however been knocking out pages that earn between $30 and $300 in Adsense over the course of their lifetimes. I don't need many of those to make a good living.
  • Way more than 13 sites, that's just a sample from the long list of products I have sold to shgow some conversion rates. That list is about 1000+ long
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  • Finally got round to making a WSO for this strategy

    Cheers,

    Joe
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  • Great, but can you please answer to 2 more questions please:
    How many searches do google show you in Google Keyword Tool External every month for the keyword you ranked in #1?
    Also, how much does the product costs you sell? I don't need the exact price, if you say somewhere -+10% of price it will be great (90$-110$ if that product costs 100).

    Thank you a lot! When do you plan to sell your WSO? I might buy it.
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    • its on sale lett in wso section.

      Keyword tool showed about 1k exact match on keyword tool.

      Price is about £35 / $60
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  • Thank you, as soon as i get my salary i will buy your report. Thank you a lot, good luck
  • You can rank for SEO Amazon within 24 to 48 hours, sometimes a week...

    longest it takes is 30 days...

    It doesn't take much time to build an entire site...if you know how to back up site properly just copy one site to a different domain..

    There are faster way to get done... on the same site you can promoting CPA, banner ads, click bank..you even submit your blog to blogads site, let people buy your ad space once you achieve your #1 spot on google..

    I personal don't go as deep as sepcific model number, I go little bid board out...

    for example, I don't go Ipod 8gig mp3 player..
    I would go Ipod player...

    that way, I could put all types mp3 player on my site... I think about what else can this buyer buy, when he comes to my site...

    for example, on the site i sell ipod, I might also sell CPA ad that sells ring tones...etc..

    Yes, people just do your study...and work at it..you will.. get your income...

    also, it's a number game...

    good luck..

    Joe's course is definitely good for a beginner IM....


    Han
  • nice thread but we have to remember not to jump on every thread that comes down the pipe.
    every thread i see the same questions and then 10-20 mirrors trying to cut and paste the stuff they read.

    this is good stuff but take it for its simplicity and it ease of implementation and not just to cut and paste this guys stuff.
    learn what he does and implement in your own area..


    that being said great share

    thanks
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    • Agreed.

      My thing is, everyone already knows this stuff anyway.

      And everyone already knows the answers to questions they ask or want to ask.

      Any idiot can come up with an idea...

      "ooo if i put adsense on hundred sites then use backlinks from angelas packets... will it work"

      "ooo can i ppc this cpa offer, what will happen"

      "what if i used a different network instead of amazon, will i die?"

      It takes balls to actually do something, and stop asking and reading...

  • Just to correct something, the Amazon one-day cookie thing is a myth. I posted more about it here but the basics are that you can still get commissions up to 90 days after a visit.
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    • The 24-hour cookie is certainly not a myth. You CAN get commissions after 90 days, presuming the visitor adds something to his cart. That, however, doesn't make the 24-hour cookie a "myth".
  • This method will not work in the long run. Enjoy it while you still can.

    Google is putting more and more value on the content of the site.

    Many niche sites are now gone from the SERPs.
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    • Google doesn't know what quality content is though and who is to say that an Amazon site doesn't contain quality content?
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    • And the other thing is the nature of forum posts like this. how much does the Op really make? There are no numbers (and no he isn't required to put his numbers up) and how much of what is revealed is proven in any way? the OP implies that just one crap site makes him £50 a month implying that all his "crap sites" make that which is almost certainly false.

      Furthermore the OP is not the first to choose this model. Plenty people have and they are not all raking it in as implied. Anyone pushing creating a bunch of sites each with an hour of work into it is blowing a bit of smoke and to the extent they are making anything much will be crying the next Google update.
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  • Very misleading title but I get what you mean. I've dabbled in the Amazon affiliate stuff here and there and haven't had too much success with it yet.
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