PR drop now i'm using Drupal

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Hi,

so i moved my site over to Drupal, thought i'd got it all sorted, moved everything over as it was and got the meta data the same etc and now Google has dropped me in the rankings?

even more frustratingly when using SeoQuake for info to help me resolve the issue, it shows my keywords as:-

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Total words: 11667
Keyword Found in Repeats Density span
173814.90class
5804.97style
3903.34font
3743.21familyT, K, D2352.01verdana
2121.82geneva
2121.82sans
2121.82serif
2121.82size
1631.40'

which obviously, denisity wise, isn't very useful for a photographer

any ideas please?

thanks

oh and my site is www.danieljamesphotography.net
#drop #drupal
  • Profile picture of the author JonMills
    stop chasing the green monster and get creating good content instead
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  • Profile picture of the author RedEvo
    Did your URL's change? If so 301 the old ones to the new ones.

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    • Profile picture of the author danjames20
      no the URLs are the same

      good content? sorry but this wont explain the change just by moving to Drupal as the contents the same
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  • Profile picture of the author RedEvo
    Server change?

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  • Profile picture of the author danjames20
    nope, nothing other than it being on Drupal
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  • Profile picture of the author JonMills
    Im not trying to explain the change. I just find a lot of people spend way too much time chasing down the green pr fairy.

    Just get on with building your site out and gaining traffic.

    Im sure there are a lot of google reps who laugh there ass off at lunch times over people fretting about page rank.
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    • Profile picture of the author RedEvo
      Originally Posted by JonMills View Post

      Im not trying to explain the change. I just find a lot of people spend way too much time chasing down the green pr fairy.

      Just get on with building your site out and gaining traffic.

      Im sure there are a lot of google reps who laugh there ass off at lunch times over people fretting about page rank.
      The OP didn't mention PageRank?

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  • Profile picture of the author RedEvo
    Then perhaps just let things settle down. Give it a couple of weeks then reassess. You are number one for Family Portrait Photography S**********e.

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  • Profile picture of the author danjames20
    im just curious as to why it would change with nothing except, more content being added if anything (added one or two pages with the move to drupal)

    can anyone take a quick glance over my site and see if any potential issues flag up please?
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    • Profile picture of the author JonMills
      Originally Posted by danjames20 View Post

      im just curious as to why it would change with nothing except, more content being added if anything (added one or two pages with the move to drupal)

      can anyone take a quick glance over my site and see if any potential issues flag up please?
      Google is constantly assessing your website pages.

      Changes in code ( i.e moving from one platform to another ) can change rankings..
      Changes in internal links, external links can change rankings
      Heck Googles own algorithms can change rankings

      Today you may see a page drop, a week from today you may see it rise.

      Its the ebb and flow of the internet

      Best bet is to spend time on gaining more traffic, adding to your site and testing conversion
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  • Profile picture of the author danjames20
    ah, it was tied to that really (from 3 to 2) but i have noticed a traffic drop since the move also, very strange
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  • Profile picture of the author RedEvo
    Sorry, my mistake. His title didn't reflect his post.

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  • Profile picture of the author danjames20
    either way, can anyone see any issues with my site please?

    the title may be a bit big? saying a few too many characters? or is that me being o.t.t with it
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  • Profile picture of the author RedEvo
    Your rankings have most likely dropped because some of your links have been re-evaluated not because you are now using Drupal.

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  • Profile picture of the author danjames20
    thanks

    think im overworrying it a bit

    I have a few new portrait packages etc to add soon so that'll add content, need to add a blog post i think, always seems to spark google a bit
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  • Profile picture of the author towels
    y man i switched the set up on one of my sites - not to drupal but still. initially it caused problems with google/indexing but once google got sorted it was back to normal.
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  • Profile picture of the author danjames20
    thanks good to know!
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  • Profile picture of the author danjames20
    how important is keyword denisty? as on most pages <span> is the highest keyword density its saying
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  • Profile picture of the author danjames20
    MAJOR traffic drop since moving to Drupal also, this is very strange...



    i moved a few images off that had alt tags, could this really make THAT much difference?
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    That traffic drop is because of the ranking drop...if you are getting traffic from the search engines.

    Something strange is going on here...

    Total words: 11667
    Keyword Found in Repeats Density span
    173814.90class
    5804.97style
    3903.34font
    3743.21familyT, K, D2352.01verdana
    2121.82geneva
    2121.82sans
    2121.82serif
    2121.82size
    1631.40'


    SEOQuake is showing your source code/css as being part of your content - it doesn't usually do this. I would login to Google Webmaster Tools and see how the Google Bot sees your site and keyword density. Something might be playing up with the Drupal install which is rendering the site differently to the spiders. Google probably thinks your site is about fonts and css at the moment, not photography.

    There will also be a drop when you make such a drastic change as the CMS, especially if your site isn't established yet. You have to keep the internal structure and the content (not just the body but the sidebars and navigation text) as similar as possible.

    Edit:

    I just checked the site and the keyword density is fine in my SEOQuake. Your site is very code intensive.

    Your actual content is a long way towards the bottom of the source and hidden in a lot of inline css and formatting. Someone might be able to confirm this but a well SEO'd site will have the important content towards the top of the source code. This is one of the benefits of CSS over tables and embedded styling.
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  • It is almost impossible to move a web site from one CMS into another or from a non-CMS site into a CMS and have it remain the same. I will bet you that while you say the "content" is the same that the pages are NOT identical. If you can view source on an old page and view source on the new page and their is any difference then there is a chance that your rankings will be different.

    Making one site "look" like another and contain the same content isn't enough if you want its rankings to no change... It's what's under the hood that the search engines see and use to rank your site... the HTML source. Unless that is absolutely identical to the old then expect changes to rankings.

    If you have some type of analytics package then I would try to narrow down which page(s) have lost traffic... and which "search phrases" have lost for those pages. This information should point you to what has changed on the site to cause your change in rankings/traffic.
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