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14 years ago

If you're looking for servers on different c-class ranges you should google "seo hosting" and you should be able to find one company that can give you tons of different server ips etc

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paulgl 14 years ago

No reason to worry about same hosts.
The internet runs on the same big hosts, same IPs.

Last time I checked, warriorforum was on same as 7 others.

This myth is around to make hosting companies more money.

Same IPs have nothing to do with adsense, by the way.

If google cared about IPs, godaddy, etc. would go bankrupt.

Your getshoemoney.com shares at least 4 other domains.

Your seolinkwheelers.com shares with at least 21 other domains.

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- J2FcM 14 years ago
  
  Very interesting information. I'm in the same boat as the OP right now, thanks for the enlightenment...
  so correct me if I'm misunderstanding this; but you are saying that this quote(which I found from looking up what C class range) is just marketing to promote SEO hosting? is there any value to what is being said?
  
  "Inside data centers where your server is located related servers or websites are often hosted by servers with the same 'C' class of ips. So their ips might look something like this:
  67.45.123.87
  67.45.123.79
  The search engines know this and can spot when related sites cross link to each other from within the same class C ip address. These links are often filtered out of the ranking algorithms. If your site has too many of these types of links it can even bring a penalty to your site.
  That's why a few companies came up with the idea of "SEO Hosting". This is where they will sell you hosting on completely different sets of class C ip addresses. People often use this to hide their mini site networks, blog "farms" or cross linking networks.
  Keep in mind that Google can also see your contact information for your domain. So if you go through all the time and expense of setting up this type of hosting it would be silly to use all the same contact information on your entire network. That stands out like a sore thumb to Google."
  
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Alexander CPA

14 years ago

I'd move away from GoDaddy and move over to a better host, depending on the volume of your traffic to each website, you might find a simple hostgator unlimited package will suite you nicely, although you may need to upgrade to a VPS or dedicated server, depending on the traffic each website gets.

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WealthWithin

14 years ago

I moved all my hosting from godaddy to hostgator.

godaddy is great for domains - but it's a pain in the rear for hosting.
their backend is slow and every little add-on is an upsell.

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senderbot

14 years ago

Hi,

I'd definately move away from Godaddy. One spam complaint and you could lose all your sites. I've heard of Godaddy locking up people's domains. Make sure you read the Godaddy TOS very carefully if you want to stick with them. See NoDaddy for further details.

What I would do is switch to a different host immediately. You can stick with shared hosting until your sites get so much traffic that the host complains and then you can move up to VPS hosting. Once you get a good host its easy to just upgrade to the VPS with no worries. I would recommend Midphase, Hostmonster or Fatcow as good hosts that I am familiar with.

I would also definately recommend that you switch your domain registration away from Godaddy. Its best to use a separate company for domain registrations. That way if you have problems with hosting you can switch simply without having to transfer all your domains.

I use Netfirms for domain registration ($9.95 inc free whois privacy). You dont have to switch straight away but as domains come up for renewal you could switch over.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Max

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paulgl 14 years ago

You would never have to worry about too much traffic.
Dedicated servers are for unique situations. And besides, we
are not talking about that. But even if we were, who here is
going to get more traffic than warriors? As stated, they are on
shared hosting.

Don't believe any such myth. You don't have enough money for
dedicated servers for 150 sites anyway.

Not knowing how the internet works is why people have all sorts
of fantasies about IPs. Class C for SEO is just a con game. More
like a shell game.

Here's two examples: free wordpress and blogspot blogs.
I just checked one of my highly ranked free blogspot blogs.
Almost 4,000 on the same server. Case closed.

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14 years ago

Try VPS - Virtual Private Server hosting. I use wiredtree.com, support response in 12 minutes 7/24!

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ARVolund 14 years ago

I am going to go with the get away from Godaddy asap crowd. Yesterday could not be quick enough.

With that many domains I would go with a vps but at least go with a reseller account.

As far as the different ip addresses the only time that comes into play is if you start linking your sites together. If you do not plan on doing this then they can all have the same ip and it does not matter at all.

Basically one of the things that Google looks at with its rankings is the ip's of the incoming links. If you wanted to use 149 of those sites to link to one of your sites to help with your rankings then you would want them to have different ip's both from each other and the site you are linking too.

If they are in different niches and you do not plan on using some of them to support others than it does not come into play at all.

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- paulgl 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ARVolund
  
  Basically one of the things that Google looks at with its rankings is the ip's of the incoming links.
  
  Pure pulp fiction.
  
  Where do you people get this stuff?
  
  Come on people.
  
  You'd all better go and delete your sig links here ASAP!!!!
  
  What's even more funny, is that a couple of years ago people were
  saying virtual hosted domains were in BIG trouble!
  
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J2FcM

14 years ago

hmmmm... so this will be my research project today since I'm hearing different info. (as a noob)

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paulgl

14 years ago

Don't bother. I'll put a nail in this coffin.

Do you have a large site? With multiple pages of content?
Do you have a multiple links on each page, linking the
content? Do you have a link on all those pages back to
the main page? Of course you do. Now ask yourself, are
all these subpages hosted on different IPs? No? Why not?
Aren't you afraid of 100 backlinks from the same IP?

And even more evil will befall you if you use subdomains.
Because in many cases, subdomains look like separate domains.

That's how big sites work. Like squidoo. I guess I can't have
a topped ranked lens because of that IP issue.

Right.

But let's do an experiment.

I type car insurance in google. I get progressive.com coming up #1.
Do an IP check, 28 domains with the same IP as progressive.com
You can bet progressive owns them and you can bet they are all interlinked.

Paul

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ARVolund

14 years ago

I never said there was anything evil about having more then one than one link from an ip address or that it would somehow count against you. What I did say was that if you are building sites for the purpose of backlinking one particular site that the ip addresses do matter.

Do you really think that if I have a site where all or most of the backlinks come from different domains on the same ip as the main site that Google is going to give those backlinks the same weight as a site that has backlinks from different ip addresses? While I have never claimed to be an expert I seriously doubt that an equal site with little or no ip diversity will beat out a site that has ip diversity.

No reason to delete the links in your sig but if you think posting 500 times in one forum to get 500 links is going to be as good as getting links from 100's of different sites then you may want to rethink your strategy.

Obviously Google expects a site to have internal links so why use that as an example? Again not anything that has to do with what I said.

As far as your progressive example that plainly has nothing to do with this discussion or do you think the 400k plus backlinks that show up in seoquake have nothing to do with their number #1 ranking. I would guess they do. I imagine the 20 million incoming links to squidoo have something to do with how well the site does as well.

The op was not talking about very large sites with a huge amount of links. He is talking about small niche adsense type sites. How about we actually talk about those types of sites where a 100 or so backlinks can make big difference in the sites rankings instead of some examples that have absolutely nothing in common with the type of sites in our conversation.

If you are going to tell me I am stupid at least argue against what I actually said.

Richard

Originally Posted by paulgl

Don't bother. I'll put a nail in this coffin.

Do you have a large site? With multiple pages of content?
Do you have a multiple links on each page, linking the
content? Do you have a link on all those pages back to
the main page? Of course you do. Now ask yourself, are
all these subpages hosted on different IPs? No? Why not?
Aren't you afraid of 100 backlinks from the same IP?

And even more evil will befall you if you use subdomains.
Because in many cases, subdomains look like separate domains.

That's how big sites work. Like squidoo. I guess I can't have
a topped ranked lens because of that IP issue.

Right.

But let's do an experiment.

I type car insurance in google. I get progressive.com coming up #1.
Do an IP check, 28 domains with the same IP as progressive.com
You can bet progressive owns them and you can bet they are all interlinked.

Paul

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paulgl

14 years ago

You are now completely contradicting what you said.
Now you are saying the backlinks are just not as valuable.
That's radically different than saying google is going to bury you.
When you yourself went back and looked at what you said, it
must not have made sense to you either.

Google has a crystal ball and knows that you personally are
building sites to cross link them. As if that were bad. Damn
straight I would cross link them. I'd be a fool not to.

You have no argument for anything I said because now you realize
it what you said makes no sense.

Just to reiterate one thing that you said. Exactly:

Basically one of the things that Google looks at with its rankings is the ip's of the incoming links.

Go delete your sig links here as stated. One would not want google to see all
200 coming form the same ip. Bad things, man, bad things!

That little bit alone makes the whole argument fall flat.

And internal backlinks are backlinks. All from the same ip. All from the
same domain.

Here's yet another nail on this coffin that will not stay closed.

If google thinks it bad to build 150 separate sites, cross linked, then it would
be just as bad to build one site, 150 pages, all cross linked.

All google says is please limit your links on a page to 100. But not for SEO.
For easy navigation.

I know what I'll do. I'll build a one page site, put 200 links to my competitor.
Get him de-indexed when google sees all 200 from the same ip.

Paul

Originally Posted by ARVolund

I never said there was anything evil about having more then one than one link from an ip address or that it would somehow count against you. What I did say was that if you are building sites for the purpose of backlinking one particular site that the ip addresses do matter.

Do you really think that if I have a site where all or most of the backlinks come from different domains on the same ip as the main site that Google is going to give those backlinks the same weight as a site that has backlinks from different ip addresses? While I have never claimed to be an expert I seriously doubt that an equal site with little or no ip diversity will beat out a site that has ip diversity.

No reason to delete the links in your sig but if you think posting 500 times in one forum to get 500 links is going to be as good as getting links from 100's of different sites then you may want to rethink your strategy.

Obviously Google expects a site to have internal links so why use that as an example? Again not anything that has to do with what I said.

As far as your progressive example that plainly has nothing to do with this discussion or do you think the 400k plus backlinks that show up in seoquake have nothing to do with their number #1 ranking. I would guess they do. I imagine the 20 million incoming links to squidoo have something to do with how well the site does as well.

The op was not talking about very large sites with a huge amount of links. He is talking about small niche adsense type sites. How about we actually talk about those types of sites where a 100 or so backlinks can make big difference in the sites rankings instead of some examples that have absolutely nothing in common with the type of sites in our conversation.

If you are going to tell me I am stupid at least argue against what I actually said.

Richard

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jeffhard

14 years ago

beware of adsense... if you created 150 sites for adsense.. and your adsense got disabloed.. so then?

Read all of threads at Google forum. How to get your adsense account disabled.

for these 150 sites you need.. unique and quality content..

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peter.h

14 years ago

here are my recommendations:

1) never use domain registrar and hosting with same company
- if ever any issue with your host you still have your domains and can quickly set them up elsewhere and vice versa

2) get a resller account
- only if you have a lot of sites (which it seems you do) and for the discount of course
- if you're planning to do affiliate marketing for your host
- if you want better organisation (seperate accounts for all domains)
- if you're flipping (selling) some of your sites later on, very easy to seperate the account and hand it over to the buyer

3) should you get shared or reseller?
- if you're starting out small, on a limited budget shared, test things - work out your own strategy... no point in trying to "get everything" right from day one, you will be making mistakes
- once you've worked out your strategy AND are making some money get reseller
- in fact get multiple domain registrats and hosts, distribute risk and get other benefits like multiple IPs, etc

it seems your starting out so I'd suggest - keep it simple
get a small shared host account somewhere, get your feet wet and most important... make some money first... then think about technical details of growing and expanding

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the rider

14 years ago

You need a good hosting like Hostgator,where you can host all of your sites and will get unlimited space for hosting with the packages.
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webtrix

14 years ago

Originally Posted by gseries79

Hello,

I am new to adsense, just getting started but have about 150+ domains which I am slowly building content for Adsense.

There are like millions of reasons for not doing this...
Build 3-5 site a time, not all 150

And don't worry about hosting..

Read all the fine posts here about Adsense and niche/micro sites

Sit back, relax, think what you have to do for each site; content, promotion etc
Multiply by 150

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GeorgR.

14 years ago

If they are simple static sites you might be able to do this on some mediocre hosting - different story if they would be wordpress sites...

reseller account: You have basically a MAIN account from which you can log-in to several other normal sub-accounts. Advantages would be that you can spread your sites across several servers/IPs that way. Eg. i have reseller hosting with hostnine and several accounts, so you could make 30 sites on each host and not 150 one ONE.

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