Backlink Indexing/Boosting R & D... All Input Welcome..

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Hey Guys,

In my never ending journey to dominate some very competitive niches I have been building an insane amount of backlinks over the past few months. A good deal (%60 or more) of these links have been profile links.

I am no different from everyone else who builds lots of links to their sites in that I would like to see as many of these links as I possibly can get indexed.

My current strategy for getting links indexed has actually been pretty effective thus far, but never being one to become complacent I have chosen to take things a step further.

My current backlink indexing/boosting strategy is as follows.

1.) Copy and past my links into an old splog page (500-1k per page) and post them. This splog uses an onlywire plugin that auto bookmarks each post made on the site plus an RSS plugin called "Web Traffic Genius" that automatically creates a unique RSS fees out of each post and submits it to 20 or so RSS aggregators.

2.) I take all of those same links plus the urls to my blog posts and create an RSS feed out of them using HTML2RSS and submit them to aggregators via RSSbot.

3.) I add the links to BLB/BIE. I have exactly 11 BIE setups on one site plus 1 BLB setup that now totals in over 100 different Web 2.0 properties that my links are being fed through. Right now I am building about 3-400 links a day to 3 different sites.

I do not use the randomizing feature in BIE, I go pedal to the medal so to speak and post all of my links to all of my properties. I have my cron job set to run every 6 minutes and have not had any issues with getting any of my Web 2.0 properties closed as of yet and I have been doing this for 3 months or more now. I should also add that all of my Web 2.0 properties are indexed and a good number of them are being crawled pretty frequently due to the large amount of scrapebox blasts that I have done over the past few months.

I also use the BIE wordpress plugin as I have quite a few blogs on an old justhost account that I had abandoned so I finally found a use for them with this. They all had a few backlinks already (mostly article directories) so I am thinking that they might have had some effect as of late also.

4.) I run all of my links through scrapebox's rapid indexer addon.This step I do not always do but I will begin to pretty soon since I saw a slight increase in the speed of links getting indexed when I tried it out. I don't do this step much as of now because it takes a while and I need the use of scrapebox all the time for other things. Steve Hawkins or "Traffic Mystic" has a tool that does this also so I am going to pick that up specifically for that purpose and set it to run every night on my profiles that I create that day before I go to bed.

5.) I run my profile urls through BMD. This is also a step that I do not always use but I am sure that it is pretty effective, especially if you do it on a daily basis. I am just not disciplined enough to do it every night so I usually do it every week or so.


As I said before this strategy has worked pretty well for me so far but I am always looking to make a good thing even better. Aside from that I am about to really ramp up my backlinking to more than double what I am already doing on a daily basis which means double the work for indexing which I am not a big fan of.

I would ultimately have to go through the whole process of doing mre BIE/BLB setups, getting these Web 2.0 properties established again and so on. I don't really have much of a problem with that since I am probably going to do it anyway but right now I am looking for the fastest results in the shortest amount of time.

So the other day I was thinking of a more effective/easier strategy for getting my backlinks indexed, (I am a big fan of the saying "work smarter not harder") when I thought of this new method that I will begin trying out starting today.

I will document my progress here in this thread so if you want to follow along and hopefully add some suggestions you are more than welcome.

The idea is to create a forum specifically for the purpose of making posts that contain the urls to my profiles in order to get them indexed faster. If you are not aware of this, Google bots spend more time on forums than almost any other type of websites.

I had heard this plenty of times by forum owners and have always noticed the "google bot" being listed as an online user on forums but I actually tried this out for myself the past two days.

I chose to very small communities (both PR N/A with less than 1k members) one was an I.P.Board forum and the other was a SMF and then joined and started my own thread.

I did this at around 9 pm and then checked back the next morning when I woke up. I simply did a google search for the title of each thread that I had created in quotes and sure enough both of them had already been indexed.

This was enough to tell me that this could very well work. What I plan to do is start a few threads with real content on them, I have installed SMF on an old domain that I own (6 months old with about 90 backlinks) and then paste the urls to some fresh profiles that I have created into a post on a few different threads.

Just for extra measure I will blast the thread urls to a couple thousand blogengine blogs via scrapebox and ping them. I will then document the % of profiles that have been indexed and at what rate.

Depending on my results this could very well replace my entire backlink indexing strategy so it should be pretty interesting.

I should add that whether this works or not I will continue to use BIE/BLB as there is not substitute for either of these tools in terms of backlink boosting right now. The sites that I am building links for are going to be authority sites so I am thinking long term in everything that I do. BLB/BIE are great tools for boosting the power of your links which actually rest on PR N/A pages. This is why I syndicate my backlinks to so many Web 2.0 properties and plan to add a lot more (700 or more in due time).

Although your links might not always get indexed overnight using these tools I am pretty sure that if you are building links for a site that you plan to have years down the line the boosting of each link to it's maximum potential will prove well worth the effort down the line as google will eventually crawl the backlinks to your backlinks and the backlinks to you Web 2.0 properties as well (provided you are building them).

Anyhow, enough of my rambling. I look forward to seeing what results this little test provides and hearing any input that my fellow Warriors have.

All the best...

Gary..
#search engine optimization #backlink #indexing or boosting #input
  • Good post. I will definitely be following this thread.
  • some might call you 'hardcore', and they may be correct with this accusation.

    the forum idea is interesting. you should look into forum scraping.... pulling forum posts from other forums and seeding your site with them. Yes, it's black hat and might rub some webmasters the wrong way, but it's a quick way to fill up your new forum with content.

    Being that it's a forum it shouldn't be hard to drop some juicy links in places that are quick to delete spam in order to get some page rank flowing through your forum in order to get the bots crawling more often.
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  • I guess I am "hardcore"? Who knows? I am definitely not one of those guys who claims to practice so called "white hat" techniques and then sends out a spun article to hundreds of article directories for backlinks.

    I have thought of your Idea for filling up the forum with content and have a few diferent tools that I have thought of using. Since this is a technique that I will be using specifically for indexing links I chose not to waste money paying for VB but it would definitely open up some options as far as software that I could use to automate the process and I haven't ruled it out just yet.

    Since I am using SMF for now I am thinking that I will try to make a bunch of post with this tool that has been rotting away on my hard drive called "forum equalizer" Maybe I have finally found a use for it.

    As for the links I am not really focused on PR but quantity as I feel that quantity as opposed to quality is what will get the bots crawling more in this situation.

    Thanks for your suggestions..
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    • Whatever method you use to index profile links, 100 % guarantee does not exist. Some sites are harder to index. No matter how hard you try to index profiles on these sites, Google bot will not index them. It is better to exclude them from the list.
  • I agree and disagree with you here. Some sites are probably harder to get profiles indexed with (although I never pay much attention to any particular site) but so long the profile is publicly viewable there is a %100 guarantee that you can get it indexed, it is just a matter of how hard you want to work to get it done. I personally don't have time to pay close attention to any single profile.

    I also would not exclude a site from my list just because the profile that I created on it didn't get indexed. So long as it is dofollow and my profile doesn't get deleted it is a keeper in my book...
  • Hi Gary,

    Thanks for sharing your experience with us, and I've heard some of your index rate as high as 80%! That's a lot higher than average people getting, well done!


    From my experience, as long as your link get crawl (ping), Google seems to assign some value to your keyword, but getting into the Google index sure helps a lot, may be even boost the ranking with less links.

    Too bad I just removed tons of my old splogs... ! I guess I'll need to rely on ping.fm to do the job for me!

    I think RSS feed is good when someone actually pick up those links and start posting on their splogs... what do you think?

    Do you wait for those blogs to aged and get into Google index before posting? or you just don't care?

    I've yet tried post to all blogs for each link, may be I will test it pretty soon, but I'm waiting for my blogs to be indexed before testing it.


    I got one copy of SEO Fast Indexer, still testing it... seems very promising!

    I miss the old BMD, the new one is just too slow...

    Plus when I import massive backlinks into the system, it crawl like turtle...!

    How many links do you run at once? I think BMD is not so great when you have more than 100 backlinks!

    I'm following your thread, will post some of my own result too.

    I wish you can find a quick way to make it work, this means I can do more and rank high with a lot less links!


    This is very interesting! I guess someone can modify the script to post links to forum platform now!

    Thanks again for sharing! Looking forwards to more result soon.

    Kok Choon
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  • Hey Kok, I haven't quite reached the %80 mark just yet, but that would be sweet! I am aiming for it though. Hopefully this new method will get me there.

    I agree with you about getting your profiles crawled at the very minimum. I am pretty sure that getting them indexed is far more beneficial though.

    No worries, ping.fm will be just fine.

    I agree with you but I am merely using the RSS feed as a means of trying to get indexed so it really doesn't matter in this case. That is where the WebTraffic Genius plugin comes in handy also as it creates a feed out of the posts made on my splog containing my profile urls and submits it to all of the top aggs automatically.
    I haven't picked it up yet since Steve Said that it would be a part of SEOLINKEXTREME I decided to wait. I am sure it will be good though.

    Once my accounts are created I hook them up to BIE/BLB to start posting immediately. I really don't have time to come back and tamper with them later so this is the only way for me to do it.

    When my accounts are created I have the urls and rss feeds sent to me in a spreadsheet. I usually create a yahoo pipe out of the feeds and submit the pipe feed via RSSbot. I also have a list of about 30 forums that I have at least 10 or more posts on so I just go and change the sigs out when I create new accounts so I never really have to worry about them being indexed, really is quite a handy asset.

    I do confer on this one. That is why I really don't do this step that often. I actually use this as sort of a last measure for profiles that seem to have a hard time. I run it on my laptop though so them time it takes really doesn't matter much to me. I never run more than 100 at a time though.

    Sounds good, I would love to hear more of your input as I am always trying to learn new things.

    I really don't know how quick this will work or how effective it will be but it should be very effective in theory and make a lot less work for me to do which is the ultimate goal. If it doesn't workout how I expected it to than at least we have learned something right?

    Now that would be something. If it works out and I see some great results from this that would definitely be something worth looking into. So long as you are making posts to a forum that you own it could work quite well. Great idea there Kok! Thanks..

    Gary...
  • Good post..Was quiet informative....
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    • Interestin' stuff ...

      3 months of massive blast of links only urls on your web 2.0 sites and you havent had

      - blogger
      - posterous
      - wordpress.com
      - tumbler
      - livejournal

      Shut down? IMHO - thats just playing with fire, and putting what is obviously on autopilot now - but a lot of hard work to create and begin.

      I call the group of web 2.0s connected to a single Ping.fm account - index clusters.

      I now have "A LOT" of them [ have raw un used setups for sale too :-) ]

      Im looking for a way to use the ping.fm API "triggers" .... @tumblr / @vox with BIE.

      To me it would be nice to have a single BIE install that randomized the rss feed content [ not streams of more links but article and blog post rss feed content ] it receives and post to different ping.fm accounts, AND to specific web 2.0's in the cluster.

      My issues are - I know tumblr and wordpress and blogger can each KILL your accounts based upon IP and email and other cross checks - Ive had it happen on tumblr and blogger with LFE.

      Footprints ... how did ya create your clusters? thru proxies and did you use different IP and gmail and yahoo accounts user names and passwords?

      We did. 300+ different usernames/email accounts etc all via different proxie services around the globe [ uk / indonesia / middle east / asia / us ]

      I built a lot of them for the same reasons u did - need to rinse boatloads of profile/blog/forum/video site backlinks ... however; my theory is not that you need broader spectrum of clusters to have index success - quite the contrary - just a handful of cluster sites [ 2-3 ] can index your backlink profile pages. BUT ... the issue becomes ....

      and I hope people wise up quickly and take a little heed... these sites are going to put the freakin smack down on BIE and BLB and "everyone" - and that includes PING.FM users if they [ and Im sure they already have ] put the connection to IP/Ping.fm/Massive backlink spam.

      that ... you cant post 30 posts A DAY to vox or tumblr or wordpress.com etc without eventually getting the slap. You got more links to rinse than 3 posts a day can handle - then you need a wider network.

      3 links per post max - inter-twined into the content is the goal. I dont want the same 3 posts per day on 250 web properties, Id like 250 different or quasi different posts from an rss feed of my choice ... with 3 of the 600 links created per { week | day | minute }

      so -

      600 / 3 links = 200 posts

      200 posts / 3 posts max per day = 70 +/- sites in my network

      I need to rinse 600 links at 3 links a post and a max of 3 posts per day.

      ping.fm effectively connects to 7-8 sites that blog and have good google craw to index ratio's BIE hits em all thru ping.fm [ for now ]

      I for one will nOT put all this work and effort [ or eggs ] in the Ping.fm - BIE basket alone - but they are currently great tools!!!
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  • Hey 4 more. First off I am loving Ubot right now! What do you go by over there? I seem to be getting the hang of it pretty quick now after my initial upsets with the program...

    Anyhow, in regard to the sites that you mentioned.

    - blogger
    - posterous
    - wordpress.com
    - tumbler
    - livejournal

    I use none of them with the exception of Posterous. All of my setups include the following sites-Vox, Identica, Posterous, Typepad, Twitter, Streetmavens, Facebook (fanpage), and every now and again I might add Diigo, Koornk, Multiply, or Youare.

    I tend to stay away from most sites that are used for blogging purposes as opposed to sites that are used for status updates, IE, Twitter, Streetmavens, Facebook (fanpage), Typepad (profile), Identica etc. These sites are basically made for this kind of posting which is why you will never have a problem with them or them banning your accounts. In respect to Vox, I am not quite sure why they work so darn good and I never have any trouble with them but I really get good results from Vox so for now they are a keeper.

    The trick for me (especially since my network is growing fast) and the beauty of BIE is that you can pull some great content from a whole lot of different sources. Since my account creation is outsourced (teenage sister does it) I have the time to actually make sure that all of my BIE install have a whole lot of RSS feeds to pull content from and no two installs use the same feeds. This is very important IMO and it works great.

    In the next week I am going to be trying some really new stuff with BIE (won't share here, sorry) that could possibly prove this script to be the wisest investment I have made in my entire IM career thusfar.

    Have you ever took the time to actually check any of your ping.fm connected sites though? Well I was in quite a bit of a rush to get mine setup the first time around so I used my old ping.fm account that just happened to have been connected to my paypal email address (which I never use). Every now and again I have to check that email for different stuff but I realized that the whole account was full of Twitter and FB notifications. I now have over 500 followers on my Twitter account simply from using BIE. But thats a whole other story, lets get back to indexing.

    This is my advise, although you seem to have your own system setup this is for anyone else that reads this, stay far away from blogger, wordpress.com, tumbler, livejournal, and most of the other sites that I didn't mention here. They WILL axe your accounts eventually.

    My first BIE setup had every single account setup and the ones that I use now are the ones that have survived since day one and are still rolling strong. I actually took Tom Goodwin's advise on my initial list of sites to use and tweaked it here and there for my own preferences and such so kudos to Tom for that.

    In any case, everyone's approach for using these tools will ultimately be a bit different and you seem to have figured out a system that works for you. It does seem that using your method would be a bit time consuming though, but it could payoff in the longrun and if it works it works. I tend to lean more towards doing things in the simplest manner possible, IE build as many accounts as I can, connect them and have my installs pulling content from a wide variety of sources (feeds), and get as many backlinks as humanly possible pointing to each of my Web 2.0 properties as I can with the minimal amount of work. Short and sweet...
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    • LOL twitter followers -thats classic man.

      Anyhow - we're doing a lot of the same things - for the same reasons. Yes BIE ftw - rich datafeeds loaded with better than your avg scraped article crap or raw bit.ly urls.

      Like you - Ive uncovered a few very awesome byproducts of using BIE to rinse/index backlinks.

      feel free to skype me: formorereferrals
  • Have you thought about adding simple leveraging into the mix.

    Easy to use and it certainly can't hurt.

    Don't know if you're willing to invest the extra $70ish/month.

    Great thread

    I achieve 47-52% indexing rate and I am not doing nearly everything you are right now. I'll add my two cents next week, if you're up for it

    Warmly,

    Brandi
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  • @ 4MORE-Sounds good, will be in touch soon.

    @ Brandi, I was thinking of giving Simple Leveraging a shot but wasn't pleased with the fact that you could only do 30 submissions a day. I am not totally sure how good that would work for me seeing as how I am building tons of links everyday. Could be good for juicing up some of my Web 2.0 properties and MU blogs though so I might still give it a shot.

    I look forward to your input also.

    Gary...
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    • I don't know what you mean when you say "can only do 30 submissions per day". Do you mean, 30 projects? Because, I have added backlinks to my feeds into the thousands, daily.

      You may want to write Steve for clarification-- he's a wealth of info and ever-so-helpful.

      Warmly,

      Brandi
  • I might need to contact him so I can get a better understanding of the process. But if am not mistaken, when I spoke with him last it was 30 feeds you could submit per day, am I correct? So I guess what you are doing is adding hundreds or thousands of links to each feed? I might have to take a closer look...
  • I break my feeds up to about 250-300 links, depending on how many I can fit in before my script times out on my server.. ha!

    I then create a project and within that project, I can add multiple feeds. For example, I can have a "green widget" project, with multiple feeds.

    I've added at least 5 feeds to a project that I know of off the top of my head. That resulted in about 1200 backlinks to the 5 total feeds.

    Now, to answer your question, I am not sure, exactly, how many projects per day you can run. I know it's 300 monthly (or was). But, again, within each project you can have multiple feeds.

    I think you'd benefit form the system and I'm sure I am not even using it to its fullest potential. He can certainly give you much better insight than I can.. ha!

    Warmly,

    Brandi
  • Thanks Brandi, maybe I will talk to Steve about it a bit more. I never did get the way the whole process worked and I basically backed away from it because it didn't seem automated enough for me (I'm the set it and forget type) but now that you explain it it sounds like something I might need to look into further.

    Anyhow, I don't want to discuss it to much on this thread since he seems to like to keep the service under wraps for some reason? Thanks again though..

    Gary...
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    • Gary - you have Link Farm Evolution yet? You may want to explore if not.
  • Yea I am planning to pick that up in the next week or so. Kinda tied up on a big project right now and don't want to get sidetracked with such a cool new toy.

    Thanks for the suggestion though.

    Gary...
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    • Hrmmm ... ok.

      Think BIE and rss feeds - fed by LFE :-) now you get more ... in content links per post.

      Cheers ....
  • what's BLB and what's BIE?
  • Not quite sure I get you here 4more, but it could be a misunderstanding of the way that LFE works. In any case I have my own little system setup for how I will be using LFE. I am planning on using it in unison with with Carty's autoblogging software (check the WSO section for details) .

    It's a neat little tool to have, it posts via xml rpc like LFE does the difference is that with this software you just insert a feed and it can pull content from the feed and make posts out of even partial feeds to your blog. It also makes the content semi unique by translating it back and forth from one language to English a few times and it strips out all href links in the content. I tried it on a few of my blogs with some pretty decent results so far so I am going to be using it more with LFE. You can also load up 100-200 plr articles and set them to post 1 per day to your blogs which is what I am most likely going to be doing.

    I spoke to Carty recently and he is adding a mass blog import feature to the software so it should be great for keeping my MU blogs generating decent content on a daily basis. I'll give the blogs some generic titles and just make posts for links whenever I need to. There is actually a thread about LFE that Pat Jackson started going on over at the Backlinks forum, you should check it out I would love to hear your input on how to make good use of the tool.

    Backlink Booster and Backlink Indexer Express...
  • Quick update. I got the forum all setup and the subforums ready now to add a bit of content and do a few scrapebox runs on them.

    I will create the profiles today also. I've got about 980 or so that are already registered from last week so I just have to go in and drop the links. Once that is done and the forum has a bit of content I'll start running the links through the posts and see what happens...
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    • This is interesting, new forum and let's see what is the indexing rate in few days...
  • Yup. I am going to give it at least a week to see some real results...
  • Well the sad but honest truth is that in between doing a thousand other things today I still haven't added any content to the forum. I have about 2500 blogengine blogs that I am going to blast the site out to tonight though.

    Im gonna hold off on creating the links until the forum seems to be getting crawled regularly (don't want them getting indexed before I run the test). Hopefully I can add just a bit of content to the site tomorrow, but for now I HAVE to get some rest!
  • May be you can also share some tips about blog comments using scrapebox, that would help me get my blogs into the index fast!
  • The only tip that I can offer as far as blog commenting via scrapebox is concerned is to use lots and lots of keywords when scraping for blogengine blogs.

    When you post to blogengine make sure you have your settings switched to "slow commenter accurate mode" (your success rate will greatly increase). After the posting is done export all of the sites that you got the "posted" message on. Do this for a few weeks and keep building your list of sites.

    When you are done and have a huge list upload all of them together into scrapebox and remove all of the duplicates. Now you will have a list of sites that you can post to that all auto approve coments. Use this list to blast your blogs with and you will get thousands of backlinks with every run.

    Other than that I just harvest lots of wordpress blogs at a time. I actually harvest until scrapebox wont harvest any longer (it will stop harvesting after any 1 million) then I remove the duplicates which leaves me with anywhere between 150k-200k different domains and I blast from there. I never use movable type, complete waste of time.

    BTW I have noticed some great results from friend feed as of late with BIE...
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    • Hi Gary,

      I'm just getting started with Scrapebox and coming back to this concept. When you're posting to your list of successful blogengine blogs (or I guess wordpress for that matter), does that actually post comments to the same blog pages or new ones each time?

      thanks,

      Valerie

  • Hi Gary,

    Thanks for tips, I'll look into the blogengine part.

    Before this, I don't collect those sites but rather post the comments directly and on topic to my keyword...

    Few questions here:

    1. Do you segment your list of sites and post related comments?
    2. Are you repeating the same sites over and over again for backlinks?
    3. How many submission you did on one shot? and how long you continuously doing it?
    4. Do we have to do this forever to get those blogs running and indexing?

    Kok Choon
  • I am a bit confused here about what you are referring to building links for. Ping.fm accounts or your money pages?

    I will answer your questions making the assumption that we are talking ping.fm accounts though since I don't do scrapebox blasts on my money sites (there are a few exceptions).

    No, I don't worry about relevance since my ping.fm accounts are not focused on ranking for any keywords anyhow. I am just trying to do two things. Get them crawled as frequently as possible and get as much link juice as I can flowing through them.

    I do the initial blast to all of the ping.fm accounts at once as I am building the list. Once I get it built I start blasting 3 ping.fm accounts at a time. The idea was to have them all done in a months time if I did this every day but I didn't get finished, I will soon though hopefully. The result will be all of my sites having at least 4-5k dofollw backlinks.

    I usually run about 3k at a time, I find that this is the most I can do and have finished by the time I wake up. Since scrapebox needs to have full control of your computer screen when posting using the slow commenter accurate mode I can only run it while I am sleep or out for the day.

    As I said I planned to do it everyday but I actually get it done more like once or twice a week aside from my wordpress blasts.

    Nah, you could pretty much lay off of them a bit once you have them getting crawled a lot but I am attempting to get all of mine to at least a pr 3 or higher so I can actually backlink my money pages with them so I will continue blasting them. Plus I can use them to index new ping.fm accounts that I create.
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    • You get me right! I'm talking about those blogs' network doing indexing.


      I guess your blog comments is auto approve, that's why you don't care about what you comment.

      I'm concerning the segmentation because of blog comment approval, not relevancy.

      Do you send links into inner page? or just home page you still get a PR 3? Impressive!

      Kok Choon
  • I'm loving this thread and what you are doing but it just seems there has got to be an easier way of getting things done.

    For indexing... it's overkill

    For backlink boosting... it doesn't seem to be very efficient

    I don't have an answer or a better solution but it seems like you are jumping through a lot of hoops and burning a lot of bandwidth and there has got to be a more efficient way of accomplishing both.
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    • To be honest with you it isn't much work at all. I don't spend more than 20 minutes a day on this stuff. Everything is automated. The most work I ever have to do is the new BIE setups which took an hour or so when I did about ten of them at once. But now it's all on autopilot.

      I just change my links out every two weeks and do lots of scrapebox blasting. Nothing really hard about that. I cant think of a much more effective way to boost your links with the same ease of use for now so I guess I will stick with this.

      As for indexing, that is the purpose of this thread. I am currently building more links than I can boost/index already and soon I'll be doing about 2500-3k links per day so somethings got to give. If the forum thing doesn't work out then I'll have to figure out something else.

      I really never care to check any of that stuff. I go and check all of my ping.fm accounts every now and again with SEO spyglass, as long as the number of links are increasing I'm satisfied.

      Do you mind posting a link for it?

      Thanks..

      Gary...
  • Understood. I write generic comments that would be relevant to any blog. I generally try to write comments about things that are big topics. For instance, the last blast I did this was the comment, "Hello all, I am just stopping by to encourage everyone to please visit Help Haiti Now and please help out the people of haiti in any way that you can, Thanks.." I always write comments about generic stuff. The night the Saints won the superbowl I did a wordpress blast on that and got tons of approved comments.
    Be advised that I did not get a PR3 to any of my ping.fm accounts as of yet. This is what I'm shooting for. I do however have 2 vox blogs and one tpepad that got to PR 1 in the last update. I don't blast to anything except for the homepage. I really don't even know the urls to any of the inner pages and wouldn't have time to go and find them.

    Gary...
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    • I wish there is - anyone care to share more...?



      Let's see how this turns out, I'll try some of your suggestion as well.
  • Just a heads up, you might want to check your comment postings.

    when I manually checked on some of my comments after using "slow commenter accurate mode" a lot of the comments were not posted even after being reported that they were.
  • I'll let you in on a secret... before using any of the backlink boosting programs, I got great results from using Daniel Tan's rss submitter script.

    I should become an affiliate of Daniel... I recommend him so much.. ha!

    Warmly,

    Brandi
  • Strange, what is the different between Daniel Tan script and others?
  • kkchoon:

    Daniel's script takes each URL you list and creates an individual RSS feed for each URL and then combines that into one master RSS feed. Nothing else does this, from what I know?

    Gary, here's the link:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...onds-flat.html

    Warmly,

    Brandi
  • Now this looks powerful! I don't see how I never knew about this one? Thanks a ton Brandi.


    Gary...
  • @ digidoodles After taking a closer look at the product that you recommended I have to ask. What is the difference in using this that say, creating a yahoo pipe or Icerocket feed or HTML2RSS?

    Seems to be the same thing...?
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    • How are you going to achieve that Gary Becks?
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  • Anyone tried this ?

    The Indexing Tool

    Seems like a good plugin!
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    • Total waste of time and space on my blog IMO. Maybe for someone doing minimal amounts of links to there personal blog through article marketing it would be fine.

      The concept is pretty stupid if you ask me. I create a thousand links today and tomorrow I have 1000 outbound links on my page? Makes absolutely no sense? Not to mention the fact that all of these links are appearing on your blog and making it more cluttered than ever, and God forbid your visitors start actually visiting the links and going to a bunch of forum profiles.

      I for one would never even consider using it, but that's just me..
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  • Wow, this is definitely a thread of indexing knowledge. I just gotten BIE yesterday and I didn't know that I can do multiple installation on the same domain...
  • great post
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    • Hey thanks it will really help me, Because i spend more than a week to collect 300 back links. But now i have good option in my pocket.
  • It will post to the same pages each time. That's the point. To post to the same pages seeing as how you are for sure that they are all auto approve. BTW I don't save the posted list with WP. only with blogengine.
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    • dunno if this thread will get checked again but was curious, why not save the posted list from wp?
  • Brilliant, this guys speakin my language and is my indexing protocol mirrors his, great stuff.

    The forum idea is great as now that you mention it i very very often see 'googlebot' et al in the active user lists on various sites im visiting to lay down links on....Im going to set up a forum on an old domain and start testing.I am curious which platform would have the most success if there is any difference at all.

    i love the link dominator program as well but what are you using to automate?

    i am about to hop onboard with scrapebox seeing all the great uses and rave reviews..mainly for blasting my indexing sites ie pingfm and my wp setups using bie. on a similar note have you messed with pligg at all like with autopligg or other software?

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    and 4morererrals if you see this, what did you mean by this?
    "Im looking for a way to use the ping.fm API "triggers" .... @tumblr / @vox with BIE."

    i totally agree with you on the pingfm booster/bie spam issue and it seems it happened since you posted your original warning post and me posting this. that said, im sure we can get our techy natured guys around here to create a program that does the same or better as pingfm?whose up for some scripting?
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  • Gary, one more thing. Do we care if the blogengine blogs have any pagerank?

    thanks,

    Valerie
  • I use a combo of tools that I buy or create at the moment.

    I don't right now, but once I get finished with this new project I am woking on I am going to pick up LFE so I assume I will be taking advantage of it's pligg functionality from time to time.

    The issue has already been taken care of and the update for BIE will be released sometime this week. It will be much more powerful now as well.

    Nah, the PR of the sites that you are commenting on doesn't matter. The goal is to get the spiders crawling your Web 2.0 properties as much as possible, nothing more.

    Gary..
  • care to share the tools you use that are available to be bought as im always lookin to automate as much as possible

    and are you using ubot for your own creations?got any tips on how i can get started on that ?

    for bie,that is excellent news,do you have an easier process that you use to update all your various setups?though i love updates that are better i cringe in a way when i see them as i have soooo many express setups going that need updated!
  • I use Uexpress sometime by p2y. Unfortunately it is not available any longer.

    Yea I use Ubot and I am just getting started with winautomation (which is uber cool). The two compliment each other very well as you can actually automate your automation so to speak using programs created via winautomation. It's like having a full time outsourcer! I love it!

    As far as getting started with ubot it is really all about whether or not you are good with that sort of thing. If you have zero programming knowledge (like me) it will be hard at first. But if you have time to spend learning it you can probably build the bots you need in a reasonable amount of time. I am good with HTML so that helped me out quite a bit. If you don't have time to invest (weeks-months) learning it fully then I wouldn't recommend you jump at it right now. If you do then go for it! You'll love it..

    In any case you can pm me if your interested in some bots that you can use for automating your backlinking. (not just profile links).

    Nah, for now I don't. I have spoken to Cringwall and made a few suggestions for that but I am not sure what actions he will take to provide an easier solution for that. I do however keep every setup on one domain and I don't update my setups unless it is extremely necessary. I also feel it is quicker to make changes via c-panel as oppose to an ftp client but that's just me.I have only updated once for BIE and once for BLB since I began using them, If the updates are minor I don't sweat it. The newest update will be vital though.. So it will be a must.
  • Quick heads, it seems I was mistaken when stating that Uexpress was no longer for sale. I was recently informed that it is indeed still available. For those of you that are interested in purchasing it you can get a quick look at it here. Expression Engine Bot

    Gary..
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    • At the time of the post I hadnt realized that the BIE API queries the ping.fm account for the accounts it has setup - then picks a random site - tumblr for example and posts the content.

      I'd like my content a little more varied than eza article feeds!!! Id had success early on with BIE using my own mashed rss feeds - but it was all plain text.

      Ive found a non ping fm solution Im rather happy with - but there is a much larger expense - but its rather powerful.

      Additionally - BIE should leverage the posterous API vs. ping.fm's

      1. ping.fm is saturated and will die
      2. ping.fm is limited in what content types can be autoposted their API

      I'd like more than 1 link per post to get rinsed ... placed ... added ... appended whatever you wish to call it.
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  • The latest release of BIE will not rely on any api but post via email. So you can now pst directly to posterous, ping.fm, hellotxt, hootsuite, or any other network that allows you to post via email. I am particularly interested in hellotxt myself as I have been toying around with a few of the sites and I am liking what I have seen thus far.

    I really don't understand why the IP that you are posting from would matter? Ping.fm and the various web 2.0 properties that you are utilizing could care less IMO and I have had no problems thus far. I do agree with not having them setup on your money sites though. Not sure if it would make a difference at all but I'd rather play it safe.
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    • Gary - Ive spent a fair bit of time with MULTIPLE systems - sites - tools - plugins etc... as I know you have - prior to BIE's release - to accomplish this link rinsing/indexing thing.

      Posting to the multitude of sites via email - is not as reliable or easy as it may appear - especially when the accounts are created using gmail, but the server side process is shooting mail thru the php app - vox - posterous and a handful of other BLOG sites [ all i care about ] dont behave reliably when the mail isnt coming from the gmail server that created the account on posterous / vox / blogger / multiply etc ...

      So - that all said. If you have 10 posterous / tumblr / vox - blah accounts - and you piss them off and all you "stuff" is being sent to them via a server side app all on one IP - very easy to trace and eradicate from their system. Also - a lesson i learned the hard way too - many apps using hte phpsendmail function send the mail with your default hosting account login name and web host domain

      like ... 4morereferrals@34324.hostgator.com

      It shall be interesting to see how Carl implements the new BIE. Its a great app and sooooo close to bullseye!
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  • I'm thinking building my own autoblog network, do you guys think that's a better choice or something I might missed?
  • I don't think it is worth the $ to build an entire blog network just for the sake of indexing links. I have about 17 blogs that were basically abandoned which I use. They are all hosted on a $5 per month justhost account that I had no other use for.

    I use a plethora of plugins on these splogs to boost indexing rates on autopilot-Ping Crawl turbo, Web Trafic Genius Pro, OnlyWire Multi Submitter and a few others.

    I think the most powerful thing about using your own blogs (besides the fact that you own them and can do what you want with them) is the fact that you can set the post count per page to something like 1000000 and have all of your links sitting on the home page when the spiders come and crawl your site as opposed to them being on inner pages as they are with your Web 2.0 properties. This makes a huge difference, you must also factor in that your are now able blast a smaller number of properties much easier via scrapebox and get more effect out of a smaller number of sites.

    Sometimes less is more and this is looking to be one of those very situations. I am seriously contemplating focusing soley on my own WP splogs for indexing from now on. It is much more reliable and plus I own the property that I am using so there's no risk in loosing them. Did I mention plugins?:p There are so many of them that will get the job done for you with ease.
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    • Gary, ive come to the same conclusion that having your own set of blogs primarily for indexing purposes is the way to go. i did a small test of 240 links a few weeks ago and got to 65% or so of getting them indexed and google wasnt hitting my sites every day and didnt set my post count to 1000000 on my home page GREAT TIP!

      What other plugins would you recommend for these splogs-indexers?

      And how would you automate the posting of the links?

      I also just got LFE and not sure if there is a way to automate posting of our own content.
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    • I was under the impression spiders only crawled so many links on a single page but i suppose that is outdate info, though i do wonder of the current limit, if any. is a good idea though and i am going to switch my wp indexer blogs to a higher front page post count...

      im also focusing on my own wp blogs, i own them so they cant get deleted and all the work i do on them wont be wasted like they may on 2.0 sites if they get nuked.

      plus i can really push the envelope as much as i want and as you mentioned use tons of great plugins etc

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  • I bought bie but it doesent work i asked for a refund they said they were having a bug and i said when u fix it pleas tell me until today still waiting i thought that it didnt work no more :/
  • yes this is a good thread but u have to do a huge amount of work and spend many hour can it be more automated ?
  • This is all automated and takes less than 15 min per day for me to maintain.
  • Thanks Steve, just checked out the wizardrss, i like it, though i never did get BIE to work and i know carl is updating it so i ll have to check into that again. i m having problem with the new update on BLB and not getting it to post.

    i did get another WSO called bloghatter that automates sending your own articles to blogger and WP blogs so illl have to check into that again.

    SEOsmart links, love that on my main sites/blogs. i installed it, checked the site and it automatically links keywords back to the pages. great interlinking and you can customize it.

    Heres what im wanting to do and see if anyone can streamline this for me...

    need to help index 7-8,000 links a month. i have 20 blogs set up for this, i figure i can post 15 links in one blog post to all 20 blogs, therefore, posting 300 links a day.

    problem, taking 8000 links and breaking them into 500 some odd posts.

    i m pretty sure all i have to do from here is create folders and set up bloghatter should then take over the rest.

    looking for any other ways to automate this.

    thanks in advance
  • Thanks Gary, i posted same time as you were. will check that out.
  • good post thanks
  • Wow thanks Gary for starting this thread. I do quite a lot of this stuff (and of course Backlink Energizer) but never done the forum thing nor am I this organized.

    Thanks a bunch for sharing a powerful strategy.
    Chucky
  • What kind of software do you use to automate this process ?
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  • Awesome post, and really helpful. I've built tons and tons of profile links over time, but never seen anyone explain so clearly and thoroughly how to get as many of them as possible indexed. So thanks!
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  • Nice strategy, getting backlinks from various sources is what gives BLB and BIE the edge in link boosting
  • I am a lightweight at this but I did write a little script which turns all my links into an RSS feed and returns a handful AT RANDOM when called. I then post it to some high-PR and decent traffic blogs as either a feed or a 'blogroll' (site-wide) with really boring generic titles so no-one clicks on, hopefully. So all my links get randomly rotated around these different blogs in a very inconspicuous way. Not industrial strength like you guys are doing but I doubt it hurts.
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  • I will definitely be following this thread. Thank you...
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