My results of 100 sites?

by mrmut
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I have read many post from other WF member who talk about their journey in buiilding a online income. They all have help in one way or another. So i decided to post my results for my journey on bulding 100 sites.

My Goal:
1. build 100 xfactor/clickbump adsense micro sites.
2. $50 per day income
3. learn from other who have done it and willing to help.
4. help other get to $50 per day.

At time of writing this post, this is where i am at.

22 site are created
18 are indexed
11 are on page 1
4 are on page 2
3 are on page 4 or above

4 of the 11 are in position 1-3
7 of the 11 are in position 4-10
4 that are on page 2 are in position 1-15

Tools:
Micro Niche Finder
Clickbump template
500 word article ( outsource )

Average income $3 per day.

I was hoping to be at a higher income but poor selection of KW might have played a role on this. As i put up sites and continue to learn new techinques on KW selection. ( i still think i suck at it but getting better)

If any one has any suggestion on how to increase income or position, please feel free to PM or post it here.

I am open for any questions from beginner or pros.

Good Luck to all
#100 #results #sites
  • Profile picture of the author Mrs S
    Sara at Noteworthy Tips was doing the same "challenge" to build 100 Xfactor sites. She is up to about $30 a day after 6 months and is documenting her progress. Might be worth you taking a look.
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  • Profile picture of the author gameutopia
    Sorry I don't have any tips or suggestions. $3 per day is better than $0 per day, so at least you are on the right track. I would be curious how much time is involved. Something I might be interested in the future depending on the time thing. Hope you reach your goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author yade
    Honestly i have the same Idea and challenge to make $100 a day from Google Ads only, Fist time i had one site with the blog style, i do research on keyword as well as i can. I optimized my pages, after about 3 month i placed the Ads. After two months palcemnet i got significant income for my fisrt site until $45 a day with avarage visit about 400 to 500 unique visitors and 12% ads CTR.
    It was good but it doens't consistent now, i decide to make more sites, 3 at the same time and i put ads after a month of my those site which finally i cannot maintain my fisrt site. In the end i got the same dollers as my first experiences.
    In my openion is no matter how many site you have, you have to consistently maintain all of them to profit more. because Google will rate good on click if the visitor comes from SE.
    That is only my experience, tell me if i am wrong?
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    Mrs. S: i do follow Sara at her site i also follow mikeiser. thanks for the tip.

    Yade: I agree and disagree with you. If done correct, you can set up the site and come back to it once a month for upgrades.

    Any more tips, ideals, or questions...... shoot them out, this is what this forum is all about.

    good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    based on your numbers it appears that you are enroute to make around $15 - $20 a day which is far below your goal.

    my first question is how much traffic are you receiving?

    Since we are dealing with adsense, you need visitors to click on your ads, the more visitors the more clicks, the more clicks the more money you make.

    I'm not an adsense person myself but my guess is traffic + higher payout ads are what are going to increase your revenue.

    so back to my first question, are your keywords going to generate enough traffic to convert into the desired revenue you are after?
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  • Profile picture of the author JK Nyerere
    Originally Posted by mrmut View Post

    I have read many post from other WF member who talk about their journey in buiilding a online income. They all have help in one way or another. So i decided to post my results for my journey on bulding 100 sites.

    My Goal:
    1. build 100 xfactor/clickbump adsense micro sites.
    2. $50 per day income
    3. learn from other who have done it and willing to help.
    4. help other get to $50 per day.

    At time of writing this post, this is where i am at.

    22 site are created
    18 are indexed
    11 are on page 1
    4 are on page 2
    3 are on page 4 or above

    4 of the 11 are in position 1-3
    7 of the 11 are in position 4-10
    4 that are on page 2 are in position 1-15

    Tools:
    Micro Niche Finder
    Clickbump template
    500 word article ( outsource )

    Average income $3 per day.

    I was hoping to be at a higher income but poor selection of KW might have played a role on this. As i put up sites and continue to learn new techinques on KW selection. ( i still think i suck at it but getting better)

    If any one has any suggestion on how to increase income or position, please feel free to PM or post it here.

    I am open for any questions from beginner or pros.

    Good Luck to all
    As you have noted,

    Your sites are on page 1 because you chose easy keywords.

    You are earning only $3 because easy keywords will not pay much.

    I think Steve Crook has the right idea of building large sites. These little xfactor sites will make you only $0.10 per day on average...unless you are lucky and fall on a high paying niche.

    What you could do is add another 40 pages to those sites. Only then can you improve your per site avrerage.

    If I were you, I would not waste my time with trying to build 100 sites that will only make you 10 cents per day.
    The method as expressed in the manual will not really work.

    You could easily make $30 per day by just focusing on 1 site.
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      Building big sites especially if you are doing all the work yourself is not easy. You are going to provide valuable content which means going reasearch and then jotting these throughts into a 500+ word essay. Its very time consuming and tiring. And then all the other stuff that goes with it.

      Got a 40 page adsense site at the mo, the good thing about it is the ability to interlink pages for link building, but they themselves are not enough when there is no exact keyword domain. Plus related terms have a little more competetion so ranking does not come easy.

      I only moved onto to bigger strategy because apparently google frowns upon microniche, possibility of account getting banned, etc etc. Is this still true or nein?

      And with 100 sites, I'd probably be earning more money right now because little efforts is required for backlinking and SEO.

      Just because it is a bigger site, it does not mean more success then a collection of smaller sites. The important thing, assuming all the on page placement of ad and everything else is well, is the total traffic received. You can have a collection of microniches that receives 1000 visitors a day and 1 big site that gets 1000 visits a day. It equates to the same thing.

      At the end of the day Adsense is not the biggest paying ticket in town, unless you are going for a keyword thats costing the advertiser $10 or something stupid.

      There are far more profitable and possibly easier ways to make $.


      Originally Posted by JK Nyerere View Post

      As you have noted,

      Your sites are on page 1 because you chose easy keywords.

      You are earning only $3 because easy keywords will not pay much.

      I think Steve Crook has the right idea of building large sites. These little xfactor sites will make you only $0.10 per day on average...unless you are lucky and fall on a high paying niche.

      What you could do is add another 40 pages to those sites. Only then can you improve your per site avrerage.

      If I were you, I would not waste my time with trying to build 100 sites that will only make you 10 cents per day.
      The method as expressed in the manual will not really work.

      You could easily make $30 per day by just focusing on 1 site.
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      • Profile picture of the author Murderface
        Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

        There are far more profitable and possibly easier ways to make $.
        -I agree. I don't know what the obsession is with adsense these days...

        mrmut-
        Thank you for starting this thread and posting your results and offering help. You seem to have a pretty solid game plan and are sticking to it. When did you start, by the way?

        Good luck and take care,

        -M
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      • Profile picture of the author JK Nyerere
        Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

        Building big sites especially if you are doing all the work yourself is not easy. You are going to provide valuable content which means going reasearch and then jotting these throughts into a 500+ word essay. Its very time consuming and tiring. And then all the other stuff that goes with it.

        Got a 40 page adsense site at the mo, the good thing about it is the ability to interlink pages for link building, but they themselves are not enough when there is no exact keyword domain. Plus related terms have a little more competetion so ranking does not come easy.

        I only moved onto to bigger strategy because apparently google frowns upon microniche, possibility of account getting banned, etc etc. Is this still true or nein?

        And with 100 sites, I'd probably be earning more money right now because little efforts is required for backlinking and SEO.

        Just because it is a bigger site, it does not mean more success then a collection of smaller sites. The important thing, assuming all the on page placement of ad and everything else is well, is the total traffic received. You can have a collection of microniches that receives 1000 visitors a day and 1 big site that gets 1000 visits a day. It equates to the same thing.

        At the end of the day Adsense is not the biggest paying ticket in town, unless you are going for a keyword thats costing the advertiser $10 or something stupid.

        There are far more profitable and possibly easier ways to make $.
        You seem to not appreciate the SEO benefits of interlinking that a large site will naturally provide.

        1000 links to 1 large site will result into far more SEO benefits than 10 links to 100 websites.

        To me, Adsense has been the best way to make money. To you, it could be something else. Just because Clickbank/CJ promises that you will make $80 per sale of an ebook/product does not mean you will make any sales. Just because you are selling your own product for $100 on Clickbank, it does not mean that you will end up making more in a month as compared to somebody else who is accumulating hundreds of 50 cent Adsense clicks everyday.

        It all depends on your skills. Anybody who has tried everything will tell you that.

        At the end of the day it is about traffic and conversion. Whatever you do online you will need traffic and be able to convert that traffic. Show me an easy way to get traffic that converts, I will then show you an an easy way to make money.

        In my experience so far, there isn't such a fool proof easy way.

        Many newcomers who have not tried anything automatically assume that they will make more with $50 Clickbank commssions than with 50 cent Adsense clicks.
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        • Profile picture of the author culvers
          Originally Posted by JK Nyerere View Post


          1000 links to 1 large site will result into far more SEO benefits than 10 links to 100 websites.
          Sorry, can't let that comment slip, but that is misleading and inaccurate.

          It all depends on niche selection.

          1000 links to a site that targets a high competition keyword like "diet" will be useless.

          10 links to a site that targets a low competition word can be enough to get you ranked on page 1 and earning clicks.
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          • Profile picture of the author JK Nyerere
            Originally Posted by culvers View Post

            Sorry, can't let that comment slip, but that is misleading and inaccurate.

            It all depends on niche selection.

            1000 links to a site that targets a high competition keyword like "diet" will be useless.

            10 links to a site that targets a low competition word can be enough to get you ranked on page 1 and earning clicks.
            Why are you comparing apples to oranges?

            1000 links to a medium competition niche will have better seo results than 10 links to 100 medium competition niches.

            In my experience, you will make more from the 1 site than with the 100 sites.

            The same could be said for small or large niches.

            I do not see how that is misleading or inaccurate.

            Originally Posted by inter123

            Just reading a few of your posts, dude why all the negativity and knocking down others?
            I think you are confusing me with somebody else or you are in the wrong forum.

            If you are not, then you need to realize that that the WF is a multi-cultural forum comprising different ages and backgrounds. Disagreeing with a poster is not the same as being negative or offensive. Some cultures/people/professional backgrounds/genders happen to be more direct than others.

            Afterall, this is not the Vatican Today forum. If you find me negative just because I do not agree that every Warrior Special Offer is the best thing since sliced bread, then please just skip my posts.
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            • Profile picture of the author inter123
              Phrases like '..multi-cultural forum', 'Vatican Today', 'different backgrounds' are all to me, from where I am sitting, is implying something. Just a shame there is no direct-ness here!

              The funny thing is I embody multi-culturalism.....I am a 32 year old Indian who has been living in the UK since the age of 8.

              I truly realise This is a global forum but to be honest I have not seen this much direct-ness with most posts I've encountered.

              I don't wish to get involved involved in a slanging match. There really is better and more productive things to do. I'll just refrain from commenting on your threads.

              Cheers.

              p.s It does not matter whether the site(s) is small or large, they both have the potential to make money. But its hard work: lots of time and effort needs to be spent to get anywhere with Adsense.

              Originally Posted by JK Nyerere View Post

              I think you are confusing me with somebody else or you are in the wrong forum.

              If you are not, then you need to realize that that the WF is a multi-cultural forum comprising different ages and backgrounds. Disagreeing with a poster is not the same as being negative or offensive. Some cultures/people/professional backgrounds/genders happen to be more direct than others.

              Afterall, this is not the Vatican Today forum. If you find me negative just because I do not agree that every Warrior Special Offer is the best thing since sliced bread, then please just skip my posts.
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        • Profile picture of the author inter123
          Just reading a few of your posts, dude why all the negativity and knocking down others?

          At the end of the day it does not matter big or small, they can all earn $. I personally would prefer to have 100 or even 1000 small microniche sites - thats what would work for me the best.

          Personally it would be very easy for me to write 600+ words on one topic and move onto something else. Rather then get bogged down and become deeply involved in some niche. Knocking out 1 page, for me anyway, would be more easier and less time consuming and much more productive.

          But I was reading reports on adsense shutting down accounts of people with 1 page sites, so I started to go big.

          Would be grateful if someone could clarify if the above is a myth or no?

          Thanks.

          Originally Posted by JK Nyerere View Post

          To me, Adsense has been the best way to make money. To you, it could be something else.
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        • Profile picture of the author brifowler
          Why does it have to be 'either or'. Why not both. You can take a free Wordpress adsense theme like "HeatMap" that is SEO optimized out of the box.

          Just put a mixture of well placed adsense ads and Clickbank text ads around valuable content and an auto responder (there are free Wordpress plugins if you cant afford one) offering something of value to build your list, and you have a business set up that can grow each day without having to start over every time.

          You can even set it up so that other people write your content for you for free in exchange for a backlink to their website. They write the content, you edit to your taste and add an image or two, Walah! Your work is done.

          You can see an examples of this Wordpress theme at #1 Best Source Of Free WebSite Traffic, Automation Tools, & SEO Training - Free Website Traffic Pro and The Power Of Your Subconscious Mind | Mind Programming | Self Hypnosis - Power Of Mind Control Both of these sites are 2-4 months old, have Google page rank, and generate revenue from both Google and Clickbank. I also write very little of the content.

          I have sites like these that have individual pages with Google page rank and multiple page one keywords, that bring hundreds or thousands of people to the main site each month without having touched them for months.

          It is easier to get Page rank on a large site than a small one, and once you accumulate page rank, it is more difficult for others to replace your top ten indexing.
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      • Profile picture of the author webtrix
        Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

        You can have a collection of microniches that receives 1000 visitors a day and 1 big site that gets 1000 visits a day. It equates to the same thing.
        Ahem, not really!
        Certain niches have much better CTR than others.
        Also, with a collection of niches you can have a collection of different strategies, website themes, adsense blocks, traffic sources etc.
        You would know which ones work better.
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        • Profile picture of the author inter123
          Its 6 of one half a dozen of the other.

          You could spend all your efforts on a 100 page site to discover click through is poor. On the other hand the opposite effect could be true, the click through is fantastic and the income is great.

          Regardless of click through rate, colour scheme or anything else, important thing is traffic. And the cost to the advertiser is a thing to add as well.

          Originally Posted by webtrix View Post

          Ahem, not really!
          Certain niches have much better CTR than others.
          Also, with a collection of niches you can have a collection of different strategies, website themes, adsense blocks, traffic sources etc.
          You would know which ones work better.
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        • Profile picture of the author HCLee
          I agree. Those who focus on making money with small niches will know if you do everything else right like keyword research, getting targeted traffic eventually takes place and you get more clicks because there is less distraction than compared with a bigger niche.

          Originally Posted by webtrix View Post

          Ahem, not really!
          Certain niches have much better CTR than others.
          Also, with a collection of niches you can have a collection of different strategies, website themes, adsense blocks, traffic sources etc.
          You would know which ones work better.
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  • Profile picture of the author spanisheye
    I have about 10 websites and I find it difficult enough to keep all those going, not matter 100 websites!

    I agree with some of the earlier comments, don't build so many small sites. Add more content to the sites you have instead.

    The difficulty is always in getting links to a site, so getting links to 100 sites is a huge amount of work. If you put all that linking effort into just a few sites the results will be much more rewarding.
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  • Profile picture of the author webtrix
    @mrmut
    Make sure there are (enough) advertisers for your keywords, and that average CPC is higher then whatever you want..

    Don't trust the tools too!
    Make sure you check each and every keyword in the SERPs, check competitors Titles, Descriptions, (URLs), try to decide by yourself does the page #1 looks too competitive.

    When researching competition, make sure you check SERPs for queries like intitle:your keyword, inanchor, inurl and so on (also try them combined)...

    I would also make my own twist to the template.

    Test. Test. Test.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Markle
    As most people know (that have been in IM for a few years), it's really hard to make any money with Adsense these days no matter how hard you try. My biggest Adsense days were back in 2005-2006 when it was fairly easy to get indexed and make the bucks. I had a ton of mini/micro sites that churned out a lot. The upkeep was easy. It's too tough and time consuming these days. Google changed the playing field and the return went from dollars/click to pennies/click. The writing was on the wall.. do something else. I think you would be better off learning about CPA marketing and give it a ride. Hope my biased comment helps. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    First i would like to say thank you to all the tips and replys.

    i would like to also say that i would like the thread to continue as a educational post not a word match.

    let me reply to a few post:

    i have been at IM for about 2 years... i start with affilate site but could not get to page 1. no matter how much links and article, still sitting on page 4.

    6 month ago i start micro niche sites

    i moved on to micro niche adsense site because it showed me how to get on page one.

    most of my niches are product related and the main keyword gets rated anywhere from 1900 to 33000 per month.
    they have less then 100,000 phrase match pages and the cpc is over $1

    i do look at page 1 competiton and look at allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor.

    i agree with you guys explaining that you can not follow any method to the letter but you need to start somewhere. as you move on you tweak what you have and find your own method.

    i would rather have a few site that are micro site and a few site that are big sites. my goal is to find 10 sites from my 100 that are huge winners and make them big site.

    i am open for any ideas and mentoring.

    my goal was for someone to lok over and see if i am not understanding or missing a step.

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author mllnsgrl
      Originally Posted by mrmut View Post


      i do look at page 1 competiton and look at allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor.
      Hi Mrmut..

      Thanks for putting up all this great info and sharing your story.

      Just wondering when looking at allintitle, allinurl, etc., what are your guidelines for going with a certain keyphrase/title/url...?

      What's the range amount that you are targeting?

      Great thread.

      Thanks,
      Liz
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Starting with niche sites and building out the winners into authority sites is what I would recommend. Makes sense to me
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    I forgot ....

    Quick update:

    i have made 6 more site. focusing more on the keyword and strength of competition.

    after reading some of these post i have questions on getting into big niches?

    how would you get into a niche like diet,health and beauty, etc. when most of the keyword are take as domain and the ones that are not have low search volume.

    i thought that SEO starts with having the main KW exact domain.

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author ladystrange
      Originally Posted by mrmut View Post


      how would you get into a niche like diet,health and beauty, etc. when most of the keyword are take as domain and the ones that are not have low search volume.

      i thought that SEO starts with having the main KW exact domain.

      thanks
      I am not a pro, so you can take my advice with a grain of salt. I have been online for 10 plus years selling real (non informational type) products. Through the years my product category has gotten way over saturated over 63 million competitors so be exact- so I have been on a slow sinking ship for awhile. I enjoy designing and creating websites so I started dabbling in a few niches.

      I wanted to do a health niche because I seen how outrageous the **** berry thing got and I thought it would be a fun ride. I seen a fun new new product coming, with all the bizarre health claims. I decided to jump on it- I was hyper and enjoying writing articles- It was interesting because it was the first time I noticed other people taking my material and re spinning it as their own content. I added adsense, and a amazon astore and google did not love me, but guess what, it is 6 months later and now google is loving me a little more everyday and I am seeing large orders in my astore, and I am not even in the top 20 anymore because forbes, usa today, and several other large news places covered the same product and temporarily pushed me out of the way. But several of the manufacturers of the products I am selling are retweeting my posts and reviews about their products. I just bought a product on warrior forum to convert my amazon astore into actual posts- I am crossing my fingers on that.

      It is funny because sometimes I will go without making a dime and others I will earn $10 in commission at amazon. I am now at about $20 month on this website between Amazon/ adsense, and I think this has the potential to be a $100+ a month website, if I keep pushing to make it better

      I think the health industry is doable, if you keep your ears open and listen for the next greatest thing. There is always going to be a new miracle pill, excersize machine, juice or berry that is going to cure all of your ailments. Just please watch out for them affiliate programs that offer you $40 for signing a customer free trial sample. Because the customer is most definitely gonna get raked over the coals for a couple $80 charges they where not aware of-

      I guess the point is keep trucking, and trying different things and if there are topics you enjoy in some of your domains take the time and to exploratory surgery on the subject and it exploit it to the max.

      P.S. Just a side I have taken domains because of the cash potential and absolutely hated the subject matter because it is financial in nature and it has bored me out of my skull, never made in money with these because I am not passionate about the subject matter (rather have teeth pulled)- just a though while you are collecting those 100 or so domains
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    SEO does not REQUIRE main keyword in domain. It just helps. I'd start by building a site around the main keyword, using it in some form in the domain, and then building out 20 or so additional pages targeting related keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    i havent had luck doing that but it might have been my KW selection.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      The recent popular "methods" for adsense recommend highly specific product-targeted domain names.

      But that's not a necessity when you are building a larger site.

      For example, you might have a domain that is

      healthresources.com (or even health-resources.com)

      You could then add either subdomains or folders for specific keywords.

      The subdomains are viewed as a standalone site by SE's while the folders create a larger single site based on health resources.

      If you created a subdomain you could have

      kneebraces.healthresources.com or knee-braces.healthresources.com

      That subdomain would be optimized for the specific keyword phrase.


      If you choose to use folders, you would have

      healthresources.com/kneebraces

      If you search the term "knee braces" and look at the domain names, you'll see what I mean. (I have no idea what the numbers are - this is just an example).

      That's a good approach if you want to build larger sites that have the potential to become very large sites in the future as finding new products/keywords to add to such a general niche is not hard.

      The one thing you can't control that will help you over time with your sites is simply....time. Google likes domains and sites that have been around for a while and there is no way to manipulate the age of a new domain/site.

      That's why I'll launch a 20 page site, add to it for a few weeks and then let it ride for a while while I work on other things. Every so often I go back and add more content as the site ages.

      I spend no time checking stats on new sites daily and I add links and articles consistently rather than quickly.

      Point is - there is no one approach that works. No matter which approach you use it is the quality of the site and the amount of real content that determine the profit long term - at least that's what I've found in years of doing this.

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      • Profile picture of the author Texxlady
        I haven't heard of this micro niche thing before but will definitely do some research on it. Your challenge reminds me of a project I'm working on myself with database sites... I do wish you the best of luck on this.

        Thank you Kay. This is something thats been on my mind recently. I have several domains on similar topics. These topics are hot right now (popular movie/tv shows) but that won't last forever. So I've been thinking maybe I should consider one large website and make use of subdomains and maybe even forward the keyword specific domains I've already purchased to them.


        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        The recent popular "methods" for adsense recommend highly specific product-targeted domain names.

        But that's not a necessity when you are building a larger site.

        For example, you might have a domain that is

        healthresources.com (or even health-resources.com)

        You could then add either subdomains or folders for specific keywords.

        The subdomains are viewed as a standalone site by SE's while the folders create a larger single site based on health resources.

        If you created a subdomain you could have

        kneebraces.healthresources.com or knee-braces.healthresources.com

        That subdomain would be optimized for the specific keyword phrase.


        If you choose to use folders, you would have

        healthresources.com/kneebraces

        If you search the term "knee braces" and look at the domain names, you'll see what I mean. (I have no idea what the numbers are - this is just an example).

        That's a good approach if you want to build larger sites that have the potential to become very large sites in the future as finding new products/keywords to add to such a general niche is not hard.

        The one thing you can't control that will help you over time with your sites is simply....time. Google likes domains and sites that have been around for a while and there is no way to manipulate the age of a new domain/site.

        That's why I'll launch a 20 page site, add to it for a few weeks and then let it ride for a while while I work on other things. Every so often I go back and add more content as the site ages.

        I spend no time checking stats on new sites daily and I add links and articles consistently rather than quickly.

        Point is - there is no one approach that works. No matter which approach you use it is the quality of the site and the amount of real content that determine the profit long term - at least that's what I've found in years of doing this.

        kay
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        • Profile picture of the author lauradance
          I have a goal to build 200 micro niche adsense sites. Trying to project the income each will generate within a year (assuming the keywords were chosen well and the site is quality).

          I just went over to flippa.com to see what has sold in this category. Seems after about six months a site can on average earn about $10/month.

          Any ideas, experiences are welcomed.

          Oh, and Mr. Mut, you are very welcome. I live in South Florida too btw.

          Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    Kay King
    thanks for the details that help alot. 3 of my oldest site due well, and i also believe it because of age.

    good luck
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    Very good plan, do you outsourcing your works or do it by yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author antonio5429
    Thats not to bad bad but, if you have all the sites indexed, i think you could be making $3 per day with just one website, i think you should take your time and perform SEO on the highest paying niche you have you can check that with the adwords keyword tool.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    antonio: I a planning to break up my 100 site into groups of 20. the group of 20 sites will be SEO for further potential.

    my problem is that i am learning all my SEO by word of mouth and reading on the net and that can be trouble.

    It will be nice for anyone to help out on that. If you check out clickbump template, they are pretty simple to fill in the seo part but i dont know if i am doing it correct.

    Update:

    found 6 KW and planning to create site over the weekend.
    1 KW is in a Adult CPA offer.. let see how that works out???

    good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author Cosmo Demopoulos
      mrmut,

      I was doing exactly what you were but changed my focus a little bit and found my income started taking off.

      100 sites is a lot to maintain and simply deal with!

      I've gotten up to about 30 (plus a few non AdSense oriented sites). Some make more money from Amazon etc. but they are all Xfactor type microniche sites.

      What I found was I has a hootload (that means a lot) of sites sitting on Googles page 2. I've refocused the last few weeks on adding content and backlinks to the most promising sites, moving page 2er to page 1 and moving page 1 sites higher up in the rankings. It's working so far.

      So, my advice is keep your mind open as your number of sites increases. At some point, whether it's 20 or 100 or 200 sites, you may want to focus on existing sites instead of building more and more.

      Good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author HCLee
        I agree and that is a very good advice to give. Personally I do this too and I focus on my top 3 sites to try to make even more money. I start with adding more content of course.

        Originally Posted by Ted Demopoulos View Post

        mrmut,


        What I found was I has a hootload (that means a lot) of sites sitting on Googles page 2. I've refocused the last few weeks on adding content and backlinks to the most promising sites, moving page 2er to page 1 and moving page 1 sites higher up in the rankings. It's working so far.

        So, my advice is keep your mind open as your number of sites increases. At some point, whether it's 20 or 100 or 200 sites, you may want to focus on existing sites instead of building more and more.

        Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    lol stop listening to people who say the XFactor method does not work. Your site will get picked up by Yahoo and Bing as well, and from my experience, users who come from those two search engines tend to click on ads a lot more than Google. I am getting about 50% CTR from those two search engines.

    Average CTR for April is 20-21%

    One of my site went from rank 4 to 3 and I saw a huge boost in earnings per day.

    If you see an xfactor site on page 1, do not be afraid to beat it. Most of these people who are following that method are not building backlinks. They just write a few articles on Ezine, Hubpages, Squidoo, and then they call it a day.

    Make sure the domain is an exact match .com, .net, .org and no hyphens. I have tested a few domains on keywords that get searched about 1600-2000 times per month, and the hyphenated domains ranked a few pages back while the non-hyphenated started in page 1 or 2
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    • Profile picture of the author rbecklund
      Originally Posted by misterkailo View Post

      If you see an xfactor site on page 1, do not be afraid to beat it. Most of these people who are following that method are not building backlinks. They just write a few articles on Ezine, Hubpages, Squidoo, and then they call it a day.
      Very true - I had an xfactor site on page 1 and a copy of my xfactor site appeared one spot higher. I had the .net and they had the .org. I spent some time backlinking and now I've left him in the dust and I've got PR2 with over 100 backlinks and he's PR0 with 5 back links.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    Oh and people who say that their XFactor sites are getting banned, it is because your content is total crap.

    For example:

    "Are you looking for yellow rain boots? I like yellow rain boots because that is my favorite color. When I come back home, I clean my yellow rain boots because I love them so much.

    There are many stores that sell rain boots. If you can't find your favorite pair, just go online and look for special sales. I highly recommend that you look at many sites to compare because some sites sell cheaper rain boots than others."

    THEN... these same people would complain in forums, "OMG I was following XFactor method to the T and I got banned!!!"

    If you are going to write about yellow rain boots, then talk about the good price that you found online, the quality of the yellow rain boots, what your friends think about the boots. If you are a potential customer looking for yellow rain boots, wouldn't you want to know a good price and the quality of the rain boots?

    Also, I highly recommend that you link out at the bottom of your xfactor site to authority sites. For example, Target dot com, funkyrainboots dot com, etc.

    Now you are genuinely helping people to decide which yellow rain boots should they buy.

    Hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author bosie
    I totally agree that XFactor/Clickbump type sites should not be totally dismissed out of hand, they can be a good starting point for generating some passive income. But as misterkailo says content quality does matter. Choose the micro sites that are performing best in terms of traffic and build them into larger sites offering affiliate products, this should give you extra income whilst your other micro sites are ageing which should help your rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author marlon
      Hi bro,

      How are you?

      You know, I've been at this game a long time.

      If you don't me, I've sold millions online. Not that it's all been roses. And not that I netted all that. I didn't. In any event....

      Here's something that will get you where you want to go.

      You'll notice a few other brothers and sisters here who are also doing Clickbump or Microniche sites. Make friends with them. Start your own little Mastermind together.

      Stick to the model you're on and tweak it. Don't jump ship just because someone says microniche sites suck. Everyone has their path. You have to stick to a path long enough to learn the nuances and let it pan out.

      So get a little group together with some brothers and sisters who are all into the same basic method. Now pull a few bucks together and pay Xfactor, Clickbump or someone else to spend an hour or two on a webinar with your group.

      Now you're all smarter.

      Do that once a month. Or once every 3 months. Share your results. Make each other smarter. And try an innovation here or there.

      You're on a good path. You're learning some things. Now figure out where you've gone a little off kilter and tweak your process.

      You might also try the same model as you have now but with amazon as the monetization. That seems to work for some.

      Also, with things getting a tad more competitive, you might need to throw in 1 or 2 extra backlink methods. Maybe you throw in a press release (or outsource). Or throw in some profile links or whatever.

      In short:

      1. Team up with others and learn together

      2. Pull your resources and pay someone with better results than you to give you a helping hand if they are willing.

      3. Tweak things until you see an improvement.

      Once your team members start to do well or better or have breakthroughs, others who are even more successful will want to be on your team.

      And that is the upward spiral.

      Napoleon Hill called it the Mastermind. He called it the secret key to success. The backdoor.

      A client I used to write for made 600 million from that....starting as a total failure. But for 30+ years he worked the MasterMind principle.

      I have a friend who sells 100 g's a month from direct mail alone. He's in a Mastermind...they all fly in quarterly and meet at a physical location.

      This isn't theory. It really works.

      Best wishes,

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  • Profile picture of the author jbolte1976
    MRMUT -

    Great post, I'm on a journey to build 50 of these sites myself. I'm averaging about $5 / day so far (as of the last few months) with about 10 sites (most using the xfactor method). I consider myself lucky because my very first site has been averaging about $2 / day.

    My goal is to put up one site a week, and to keep moving forward. I outsource most of my article / site content writing. I found a decent source that is affordable and most of the content needs just a little bit of finishing touches.

    Keep us posted on your progress! I sent you a PM if you like to share some success stories or to help each other out.

    Thanks,

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  • Profile picture of the author JamesJasen
    That is fantastic idea man, I never thought of it. I always used to get profit from one single site. Me too have to get more sites as you and follow your methods?

    Okay, How much you had spent to setup the sites & to outsource articles & to get backlinks etc?
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    • Profile picture of the author jbolte1976
      Originally Posted by JamesJasen View Post

      That is fantastic idea man, I never thought of it. I always used to get profit from one single site. Me too have to get more sites as you and follow your methods?

      Okay, How much you had spent to setup the sites & to outsource articles & to get backlinks etc?
      I build my own sites with the xfactor wordpress template I purchased. After I've found and purchased a domain, I can have my site all built (minus the content) in about 1 - 2 hours. Next I send my list of 10 keywords to my content writer. They're good for the price $1 per 100 words, I do tweek the articles a little, but not much.

      I typically order (x10) 300 word articles for the site content and for submitting to EZA and Go articles for backlinks. So the cost for my content is $30 plus the cost of a domain $11 - $15.

      I typically get my content in less than a week. I'll usually write my home page content myself, just to get the "indexing ball" rolling faster.

      I'll be happy to average $.50 - $1.00 a day (but I'd love more) for each site considering that these sites don't seem to need much maintenance. Anyway.....

      50 sites X's $.50 day = $25 / day or $9125 / yr.

      50 sites X's $12 domain renewal fee = $600 / year + $150 (or so) for a couple hosting packages for your sites.

      $9125 - $750 = $8375 profit year or about $700 / month profit.


      Well that's my plan / business plan. It could always change, but I think it's worth trying, basically I'm just up-scaling what's now working for me.

      I'll try and leave some updates here on the WF, I haven't been all that great at posting.

      Let me know what you guys think of this plan.


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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    Hey JB...

    great info on your plan. i have sent you PM. Please feel free to update your progress here on this thread.. that will keep you accountable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
    JB,

    Great plan mate. Well done. Be persistent and consistent and the results will flow.

    I love these types of threads and it is always handy when Marlon drops in.
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  • Adsense applies penalty/reward sitewide. So junk sites do nothing but hurt you. Build a million of them and make pennies.

    If your site has no respect in the eyes of Google (PR is the best indicator) you won't make much per click. So there really is no point in making all those sites if you can't get them to rank. And if you are using Adsense on sites that are not ranking you are just hurting yourself.

    So pull it off all your sites with no page rank, limit the number of ads, and keep working on ranking. Then you can watch your earnings rise.

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoshuaG
      So much of it has to do with time.

      My earnings have been on a consistent rise for months now with no extra effort.
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      • Profile picture of the author jbolte1976
        Originally Posted by JoshuaG View Post

        So much of it has to do with time.

        My earnings have been on a consistent rise for months now with no extra effort.
        I've noticed that myself. I hit this kind off hot n heavy last year in Oct / Nov and lost my steam because of the holidays, etc. When I got back into it (late Jan or so) I started looking at my sites, and several with very little or even no content were starting to rank for their KW's.

        That was encouraging. So I couldn't agree more, time is really important. It's tough sometimes but patience is a must, you have to have some faith that your work now will start paying off down the road a few months (or more).

        JB
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    I agree... with you guys on time

    my older site with no updates on content get PR 2-3 after 4 months. But i dont think that is make a difference the income.

    Update:

    my 6 new sites got index and i have 6 more KW in the pipeline. those 6 site 4 on page one and 2 one page 2.

    that gives me a total of 28 sites.

    good luck!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    Keep it up! Do not get discouraged when you read threads that talk about how these people are getting banned with 100+ niche sites. There has to be something terribly wrong for that to happen, but the people who get banned will never tell you.

    They always say "but my content is high quality and I follow Google's ToS to the T"... I call bull...
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    quick update:

    i am working on KW search and so far i have about 12 more KW that fit my criteria.

    will be work for the next few days on site building and hope to have 50 sites soon.

    I also wanted to mention a site that i have been using for backlinks and getting good results. check it out and try the free version. www.socialadr.com

    Good luck
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    I would like to ask you guys that how much can you earn via a Forum?
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  • Profile picture of the author DrGUID
    Why not build one monster site? My personal site gets 600,000+ page views a year, not bad for what started off just as a personal homepage!

    From this site I have been able to launch all kinds of other ventures due to all that lovely linkjuice.

    Sites like hubpages prove that broad niche (no niche?) sites do monetise well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rozanne
      Guys, I am looking forward to build some 50 blogs where I am going to put affiliate links and adsense. Could you please tell me what type of niche is in boom nowadays? So that I can build my blogs with the relevant themes and content. Also, please let me know are there any other programs which are more effective and offers greater revenue than that of Google adsense.
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      • Profile picture of the author jerryp
        I've done a few large sites and got really burned out on them. I don't think there is any right or wrong between mini sites and large authority sites. It comes down to whatever works for you and feels best.

        I learned how to build mini 1 page sites from Zeus here in the forum and it just seems to work best for me. I just finished the 2 week course 3 weeks ago and have finished 7 sites. My goal is 12-15 sites a month. However John(Zeus) teaches that if you have a site that is a winner, go back and add more content and backlinks. I'm just looking forward to the journey now that I have a plan.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita
      I am tired to read all these methods because I lost enough money in this pursuit.

      Here is my simple method of earning $10 per site per day.

      1. I use 10 page site
      2. I prepare .php pages because I can use include statement
      3. My each page is ranked in top 10 with 5 to 6 keywords.
      4. I use product name within content.
      5. I use article marketing with 10 article directories, maintain a blogspot blog for each site, I do video marketing with 5 sites.
      6. In few cases I just added auto responder because I want to convert these sites to a large site of 20 page.
      7. I have 10 sites. That's max I can manage on my own.
      8. Select sites where you can affiliate products - information and physical both.
      9. I use micro niche finder. I purchased it once it was launched. This takes time.
      10. I added monetization once I have 50 odd unique visitor in my site.
      11. Link building is actually simple...stop reading u will earn money

      That's all. This works. Stop spending money and do work. There is no secret in earning money from adsense or affiliate marketing.

      Anything more, contact me and guaranteed free consultation.

      Regards
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    • Profile picture of the author hlvasquez
      Mr.Mut

      Good luck on this..!!


      Just a quick question...

      What are you doing or what have you done to drive traffic to your websites?
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      • Profile picture of the author mrmut
        Originally Posted by hlvasquez View Post

        Mr.Mut

        Good luck on this..!!


        Just a quick question...

        What are you doing or what have you done to drive traffic to your websites?

        i am following the xfactor/clickbump method. i have started to add some of my one little secret to their method. they are rank with out any backlinks and as i find the winners, i build them out.

        what are you doing?

        good luck
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        • Profile picture of the author hlvasquez
          Thanks for the reply.

          I'm just starting on this, I just have 3 websites that are just starting to get traffic.

          Xfactor/Clickbump method is new for me, sound interesting, I will check it out more deeply.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            i need help in getting over the double digit $$
            You only need time. It's odd - but you will sometimes feel you are "stuck" on a number....but as the traffic to sites increases you'll see the numbers jump quickly and they can double in a week or less.

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  • Profile picture of the author Hobo82
    Well done MrMut, thanks for sharing your journey with us. If possible I would like to pick your brain or anyone willing to help me get off the ground, like all of us I could use the money. Thanks and good luck.

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  • Profile picture of the author Hobo82
    Hi MrMut,

    Thanks for sharing your journey with us, this thread should help us all. There is so much info and ways to make money, at times it is overwhelming. If possible I would really appreciate some insight on how to get started with this, as I along with may others all could use extra or just money in our pockets these days. Thanks

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    Sorry for the double post, the first post wasn't appearing before and here it is. May be due to the servers. Sorry.

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  • Profile picture of the author .
    If your business model is just to build minisites with no authority , specialy with xfactor/clickbump style... then wait until they all get visually inspected by google and then bye bye business model.

    Create different styles... and provide quality and quantity in content, otherwise once google sees is a MFA, bye bye
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    Hello Everyone

    Quick update:

    I know have 40 site up and running. i still need about 12 to be index.

    I have notice a increase on income. It looks like my average have jump to $9 per day.

    I have backlink somewhat to several site but not to much... if you have read my previous post, you know what i am using.

    Spending some time KW search and also creating a plan to build more pages on my winning sites.

    good luck and more updates coming soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author loginname
    Originally Posted by mrmut View Post

    I have read many post from other WF member who talk about their journey in buiilding a online income. They all have help in one way or another. So i decided to post my results for my journey on bulding 100 sites.

    My Goal:
    1. build 100 xfactor/clickbump adsense micro sites.
    2. $50 per day income
    3. learn from other who have done it and willing to help.
    4. help other get to $50 per day.

    At time of writing this post, this is where i am at.

    22 site are created
    18 are indexed
    11 are on page 1
    4 are on page 2
    3 are on page 4 or above

    4 of the 11 are in position 1-3
    7 of the 11 are in position 4-10
    4 that are on page 2 are in position 1-15

    Tools:
    Micro Niche Finder
    Clickbump template
    500 word article ( outsource )

    Average income $3 per day.

    I was hoping to be at a higher income but poor selection of KW might have played a role on this. As i put up sites and continue to learn new techinques on KW selection. ( i still think i suck at it but getting better)

    If any one has any suggestion on how to increase income or position, please feel free to PM or post it here.

    I am open for any questions from beginner or pros.

    Good Luck to all
    How many are visiting your sites each day? I thought it could be interesting to compare that with the daily adsense income. And why are you using adsense instead of for example CPA?

    - All the Best
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    loginname

    When i start the post i was getting about 100 clicks per day. they were coming from about 15 to 18 sites.

    it has increase since then but i have also added more sites.

    i am starting to work some cpa but can not find domain KW. Any suggestions.

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author nando1125
    Nice gameplan. Dont get discouraged by anything. I would love to create 100+ mini sites, but I would rather just focus on a few bigger sites. Nonetheless great plan once again! good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author mrmut
      Originally Posted by arkobabi View Post

      I am tired to read all these methods because I lost enough money in this pursuit.

      Here is my simple method of earning $10 per site per day.

      1. I use 10 page site
      2. I prepare .php pages because I can use include statement
      3. My each page is ranked in top 10 with 5 to 6 keywords.
      4. I use product name within content.
      5. I use article marketing with 10 article directories, maintain a blogspot blog for each site, I do video marketing with 5 sites.
      6. In few cases I just added auto responder because I want to convert these sites to a large site of 20 page.
      7. I have 10 sites. That's max I can manage on my own.
      8. Select sites where you can affiliate products - information and physical both.
      9. I use micro niche finder. I purchased it once it was launched. This takes time.
      10. I added monetization once I have 50 odd unique visitor in my site.
      11. Link building is actually simple...stop reading u will earn money

      That's all. This works. Stop spending money and do work. There is no secret in earning money from adsense or affiliate marketing.

      Anything more, contact me and guaranteed free consultation.

      Regards
      thanks for your thought and method.. i would love to have a hand full of site. Doing 100 let me find those 5- 10 winners.

      unless you can show me how to pick them from the beginning

      Originally Posted by nando1125 View Post

      Nice gameplan. Dont get discouraged by anything. I would love to create 100+ mini sites, but I would rather just focus on a few bigger sites. Nonetheless great plan once again! good luck!
      Hey nando1125

      thanks for your thought. Notice you in my part of town. MIA.

      good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    quick update:

    i am up to 40 sites but 12 still waiting to be index. i have bookmarked some of the sites and i am starting to see some backlinks show up. my avergae still stands at $9. i have 6 more KW that i am buying and setting up by the end of this week.

    thinking of adding content to my winners and see if that will increase traffic and income.

    thanks for all the support and PM

    good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian York
    Good work mate, it seems like you have made some good progress since the start.

    A couple of things that I would suggest (I have over 50 niche sites ranking well):

    1. Focus on completing blocks of niche sites as opposed to continual building more and more sites. What I mean by this, is to make sure that you are content is created and that the sites are ranking well before you build more sites.

    Initially I cranked out a number of sites but none of them were ranking very well. I had to go back and add links and adjust my keyword strategy. If I had focused on less sites, I could have started making good money much quicker.

    A good number that I recommend is 5 sites

    2. Change up monetization methods. Don't simply really on adsense. Check out affiliate products, cpa etc. You may find that some niches make more money with other methods.

    3. Host them on different hosting plans and backup your blogs consistently. I once had a host suspend me when I had 20 money making blogs created. Later I found out that the hosting company was notorious for doing this. I lost all my income overnight.

    4. Create blogs that are going to earn you more than 50 cents a day. It takes the same effort to create a blog that will earn you $10 a day.

    5. Don't really solely on Google traffic. If anything changes and your sites don't rank as well, your entire income is gone.

    6. Once you have the system down, outsource the boring tasks to other people. Earn way more money and focus on what you enjoy doing and what you are good at.

    I hope this helps

    Best Wishes

    Christian
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    • Profile picture of the author mllnsgrl
      Originally Posted by Christian York View Post

      Good work mate, it seems like you have made some good progress since the start.

      A couple of things that I would suggest (I have over 50 niche sites ranking well):

      1. Focus on completing blocks of niche sites as opposed to continual building more and more sites. What I mean by this, is to make sure that you are content is created and that the sites are ranking well before you build more sites.

      Initially I cranked out a number of sites but none of them were ranking very well. I had to go back and add links and adjust my keyword strategy. If I had focused on less sites, I could have started making good money much quicker.

      A good number that I recommend is 5 sites

      2. Change up monetization methods. Don't simply really on adsense. Check out affiliate products, cpa etc. You may find that some niches make more money with other methods.

      3. Host them on different hosting plans and backup your blogs consistently. I once had a host suspend me when I had 20 money making blogs created. Later I found out that the hosting company was notorious for doing this. I lost all my income overnight.

      4. Create blogs that are going to earn you more than 50 cents a day. It takes the same effort to create a blog that will earn you $10 a day.

      5. Don't really solely on Google traffic. If anything changes and your sites don't rank as well, your entire income is gone.

      6. Once you have the system down, outsource the boring tasks to other people. Earn way more money and focus on what you enjoy doing and what you are good at.

      I hope this helps

      Best Wishes

      Christian
      Hi Christian..

      Thanks for the info. Just curious... Do you have mostly Wordpress Ecommerce style sites, or more like Review style sites with more content? Do you find that one of these works better for sales than the other?

      I am working on a couple WP blogs with amazon products, getting some traffic, but not a whole lot of conversions, and just wondering the best way to add content to rank well and get targeted traffic.

      Also, can you tell me the hosting plan that did this? Pm if you'd like.

      Thanks so much,
      Liz
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        Originally Posted by mrmut View Post

        christian york..

        great information.. i am starting to break my site into group and i am adding pages to them. i agree with building strong sites. it is much easier to work in groups.

        i have started to build site with cpa offers but no data from it yet. i will update as it starts getting traffic and income.

        thanks for the good info, it makes a difference when other post on the thread with good information.

        good luck
        Your welcome, I'm glad I could be of help.

        Let me know how the CPA offers go. You may also like to try affiliate marketing.

        Another tip that you may find useful, is to try and drive traffic to your sites from videos, articles, forums, viral reports etc whilst you are waiting for them to rank in the SERPS. This way you can earn money quicker and also work on your conversion rates etc.

        Of course this can be a lot of work if you have 100 sites, so that's another reason I like to break down the site creation in groups.

        Originally Posted by mllnsgrl View Post

        Hi Christian..

        Thanks for the info. Just curious... Do you have mostly Wordpress Ecommerce style sites, or more like Review style sites with more content? Do you find that one of these works better for sales than the other?

        I am working on a couple WP blogs with amazon products, getting some traffic, but not a whole lot of conversions, and just wondering the best way to add content to rank well and get targeted traffic.

        Also, can you tell me the hosting plan that did this? Pm if you'd like.

        Thanks so much,
        Liz
        Hi Liz,

        I focus on review type sites and basic blogs with good content that push affiliate products, cpa, adsense and amazon. Each works great, it just depends on the niche. E.g. For a "weight loss" site I may use affiliate offers or CPA because the payouts are good but for other blogs which target "vintage guitars" or something I will promote with amazon or adsense.

        Also remember that if one style isn't converting well then you can always change it.

        You may also like to switch up themes and ad placement if you are not getting good conversions. Also test whether your blog is poor in conversions or whether it's the amazon offer. (Both can easily be changed).

        I would love to publicly flame the hosting company, but that's my style. Lets just say that since I switched to hostgator everything has been great. I highly recommend them.

        Hope this helps

        Christian
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        • Profile picture of the author zaclondon
          I have enjoyed reading your thread mrmut, and from all those that have contributed with their own experience/advice.

          I've only started on the road to build niche websites so it's been educational reading here.

          Good luck and keep us posted!
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        • Profile picture of the author mllnsgrl
          Originally Posted by Christian York View Post

          Your welcome, I'm glad I could be of help.

          Let me know how the CPA offers go. You may also like to try affiliate marketing.

          Another tip that you may find useful, is to try and drive traffic to your sites from videos, articles, forums, viral reports etc whilst you are waiting for them to rank in the SERPS. This way you can earn money quicker and also work on your conversion rates etc.

          Of course this can be a lot of work if you have 100 sites, so that's another reason I like to break down the site creation in groups.



          Hi Liz,

          I focus on review type sites and basic blogs with good content that push affiliate products, cpa, adsense and amazon. Each works great, it just depends on the niche. E.g. For a "weight loss" site I may use affiliate offers or CPA because the payouts are good but for other blogs which target "vintage guitars" or something I will promote with amazon or adsense.

          Also remember that if one style isn't converting well then you can always change it.

          You may also like to switch up themes and ad placement if you are not getting good conversions. Also test whether your blog is poor in conversions or whether it's the amazon offer. (Both can easily be changed).

          I would love to publicly flame the hosting company, but that's my style. Lets just say that since I switched to hostgator everything has been great. I highly recommend them.

          Hope this helps

          Christian
          Thanks Christian..

          That helps.

          I'll have to look at hostgater. I've been using godaddy for years, so I was hoping it wasn't them (maybe it is).

          I know what your saying about your style of blogs - will need to go that route as well. I'm just trying to make my amazon product site work. Will keep trying.

          Best,
          Liz
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    christian york..

    great information.. i am starting to break my site into group and i am adding pages to them. i agree with building strong sites. it is much easier to work in groups.

    i have started to build site with cpa offers but no data from it yet. i will update as it starts getting traffic and income.

    thanks for the good info, it makes a difference when other post on the thread with good information.

    good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    No legitimate argument can be made supporting a higher upside for a bunch of microsites. These sites have a low bar of entry, so they are always going to be a hot topic of conversation in an industry of mostly unskilled developers.

    Hopefully that didn't sound condescending, because there is a place for microsites at all levels. They just aren't a road paved in gold. I recall someone on another forum paying $25,000 to have a bunch of microsites developed, and the the whole thing crashed and burned.

    For me, microsites aren't so much about the money each one generates as much as it is using them as a launch pad for something bigger. "Build it and forget it" microsites have generally been a dead end for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author stefffff
    why not better concentrate your efforts on a single website? how can you keep your sites updated? in terms of backlins and content i mean
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    i use godaddy and had no problems. hostgator seems to be a favorite for alot of people.

    quick update:

    doing alot of KW search and starting to add some pages to my sites.

    average still hold on $9 per day..

    i need help in getting over the double digit $$

    good luck to all
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    • Profile picture of the author lauradance
      Just wanted to reinforce a commentor above about using Zeus for training on creating Micro Niche Adsense Affiliate sites. Zeus has been working on IM since 1996, Google Adsence since 2003 so he knows his stuff.

      When your micro niche site takes off you build upon it.

      One of the most important things I learned from him was how to improve on choosing the niche and the keyword for that niche.

      Micro Niche Finder alone leads to failure if used alone. I combine that with Traffic Travis free version.

      If there are more than three top level domains in top 10 on Google, the keyword is probably not the best to choose.

      Good luck Mr. Mutt.
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    Hi Liz,

    I have been with Hostgator for a couple of month now and I am happy with them. They have alot to offer and their Live Chat is really good, their email ticker replies could be a bit better, but otherwise no complaints.

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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    Can anyone drop a link to "zues" profile or post... i could not find him in a search on the WF.

    thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Spencer Haws
    Mr Mut:

    I am currently in the process of building 100 niche adsense websites in 30 days. I have already built around 88 or them. (I also have about 150 older niche sites).

    The most important thing you can do is KW research, so stick with it. I am documenting my entire process of how I build these sites. So, if you are interested in seeing some of the tips I give, see the free WSO I have in my sig.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrmut
      Originally Posted by lauradance View Post

      Hi MrMut:

      Here is a link to Zeus' thread.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ml#post2051844

      He was recommended to me by someone who is well respected in another forum I frequent. She had nothing to gain from that recommendation other than to help me.

      Turned out Zeus really delivers.

      Laura
      hey laura thanks for the link... i will check it out. i truly feel i am missing a small piece to my puzzle and i am looking for someone to show me that piece.

      Originally Posted by The Redfox View Post

      Mr Mut:

      I am currently in the process of building 100 niche adsense websites in 30 days. I have already built around 88 or them. (I also have about 150 older niche sites).

      The most important thing you can do is KW research, so stick with it. I am documenting my entire process of how I build these sites. So, if you are interested in seeing some of the tips I give, see the free WSO I have in my sig.
      hello redfox.

      i have seen your post and site and i been following you. thanks for the info.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMartin
    I wish you the best.

    Only thing I'd caution people against is rushing initially. Do 1-3 sites and see what happens. The better you get at research, building and promotion, the better your sites will do.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    Hey Kay King

    Thanks for the kind words.. i agree with you because when you start off with 3 site and you are making $1 per day, you double your income when you hit 30 days and 10 sites. so i think when it all done i should be on my way to my goal which is $100 per day from my sites...

    it just fustrating and i work hard to make this work.

    thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      What many forget - and you can't overcome - is that google values age on a site.

      The sites you are building now - if built well and optimized now - will be more valuable a year from now and will earn more as time goes on if the niches are good ones.

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        Just wondering what chance is there that this will change in the future? Google seem to change the way they do business all the time.

        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        What many forget - and you can't overcome - is that google values age on a site.

        The sites you are building now - if built well and optimized now - will be more valuable a year from now and will earn more as time goes on if the niches are good ones.

        kay
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmut
    hey lauradance

    just my 2 cents but 200 site is going to be alot of work keep them up. i have started my journey for 100 but i have quickly see that 100 is hard to keep up. i am looking at keeping 25 to 50 site after everything is done.

    i sent you a Private Message.

    you might want to check out mike iser webiste. he post every day whathe does to keep is adsense empire up and running.... www,mikiser,com

    good luck
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