Advice for starting private network?

by tro2
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I am thinking about starting a private network of sites to build one way links to my money sites. Does anyone have any advice regarding hosting, domain registration and maintaining content on the sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    hit up View Profile: Tom Goodwin

    he has by far surpassed my little network and should be able to get you off to a good start.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
    Originally Posted by tro2 View Post

    I am thinking about starting a private network of sites to build one way links to my money sites. Does anyone have any advice regarding hosting, domain registration and maintaining content on the sites?
    Sorry for not replying sooner over at the other forum. I didn't sleep for 3 days as I busy doing site updating do to PR changes and then crashed for about 36 hours. I replied to your thread over there.

    But, here are the snippets :-)


    Hosting: I use seo-host.com and so far so good. Starting with the 15 IP package, it costs $3/IP (so $45 for 15 IPs). I think that's a pretty good place to start.

    note, you don't necessarily need to have 1 site/IP. The more IP diversity you have, the more link juice you create and the less footprint, IMHO, but you have to always weight the costs with the benefits. I think setting up 3 sites per IP, for instance, wouldn't necessarily be horrible, and you could get close to 50 sites for $45/month hosting. It all comes down to one's budget.

    Registration: When I first started, I bought new domains. Definitely a mistake in my book. If you want relatively inexpensive domains, you can find PR2 domains as GoDaddy "closeouts" for $6-$9 for the auction, plus $7.49 I think for the regular yearly hosting for .com sites (with the standard coupon codes). For me, this is a pretty easy way to get at least some PR to each of your new domains and it doesn't cost that much.

    In terms of finding them, there was a thread around here on alternatives to freshdrop.net (which I use) for sorting through domains. I just did a search for "alternatives to freshdrop" in Google and it seemed to return some decent threads and other info discussing cheaper options (or perhaps free ones).

    Content: I try to do 1-2 posts per site per day. This allows some new content, without going overboard. I personally just post directly to the sites using Link Farm Evolution, but if wanted to do an auto-posting setup, I would suggest at looking into Carty's autoblogging WSO. I use it for other sites of mine and it works well. It can do translation, to help achieve uniqueness. In addition, you could use something like WP Unique to do some auto-spinning of content, etc.

    Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author Bertil Jenner
      Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

      Hosting: I use seo-host.com and so far so good. Starting with the 15 IP package, it costs $3/IP (so $45 for 15 IPs). I think that's a pretty good place to start.

      note, you don't necessarily need to have 1 site/IP. The more IP diversity you have, the more link juice you create and the less footprint, IMHO, but you have to always weight the costs with the benefits. I think setting up 3 sites per IP, for instance, wouldn't necessarily be horrible, and you could get close to 50 sites for $45/month hosting. It all comes down to one's budget.

      Tom
      Those are great suggestions by Tom.

      I would also like to add that using diverse IPs helps a bit. But what you really should target for if you want a really effective network is to also ensure that you spread your IPs across many different servers.
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    • Profile picture of the author tro2
      Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

      Registration: When I first started, I bought new domains.
      Tom
      Thanks for the reply, Tom. Is it ok to have the same WHOIS info across all your sites? Is there any interlinking between your sites?
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by tro2 View Post

        Thanks for the reply, Tom. Is it ok to have the same WHOIS info across all your sites? Is there any interlinking between your sites?
        Personally, I would go with private whois for all of the sites.

        None of the sites link to each other in this network, but there is overlap between both incoming and outgoing links.

        Tom
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      • Profile picture of the author rizzy
        Originally Posted by tro2 View Post

        Thanks for the reply, Tom. Is it ok to have the same WHOIS info across all your sites? Is there any interlinking between your sites?
        I keep the whois info private on all my domains. I also keep the nameservers the same as where I register the domain and then just point the A record for the domain to it's IP.
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        • Profile picture of the author tro2
          Originally Posted by rizzy View Post

          I keep the whois info private on all my domains. I also keep the nameservers the same as where I register the domain and then just point the A record for the domain to it's IP.
          Which host do you recommend, rizzy?
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          • Profile picture of the author tyrowen
            Hi,

            I know this thread is really old, but I have a question torturing my mind:

            How do you monetize your network?

            I want the network to pay its own rent but Google will catch up on me if I use my Adsense account across all of the sites. Sure there are other cpc networks, but they are close to useless.

            I could put up CB or CJ offers, but I fear the conversion rate will be awful for such generic websites.

            I could also sell links to other people, but I don't want to Jeopardize the integrity of my network.

            Ideas?

            How do you guys monetize your networks?

            Thanks!
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            • Profile picture of the author NumbersJunkie
              Originally Posted by tyrowen View Post

              Hi,

              I know this thread is really old, but I have a question torturing my mind:

              How do you monetize your network?

              I want the network to pay its own rent but Google will catch up on me if I use my Adsense account across all of the sites. Sure there are other cpc networks, but they are close to useless.

              I could put up CB or CJ offers, but I fear the conversion rate will be awful for such generic websites.

              I could also sell links to other people, but I don't want to Jeopardize the integrity of my network.

              Ideas?

              How do you guys monetize your networks?

              Thanks!
              Good old thread to resurrect. I'm struggling with creating my own private network versus buying access to the ones other people have created - which I'm doing now. Instead of trying to monetize the traffic, you could always offer access to other folks on this forum. I'd love to hear what you've set up.
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              • Profile picture of the author tyrowen
                Originally Posted by NumbersJunkie View Post

                Good old thread to resurrect. I'm struggling with creating my own private network versus buying access to the ones other people have created - which I'm doing now. Instead of trying to monetize the traffic, you could always offer access to other folks on this forum. I'd love to hear what you've set up.
                Hi!

                Thank you for you answer. Yeah I've thought about actually monetizing it by selling link packages. Problem is I don't have much time to spend on taking care of such "business", and the upkeep cost of such a network will be kind of high. That's why I am searching for an alternative method to monetize the sites so they pay their own rent.
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    Tom,

    Regarding the dropped domains; I talked with an SEO coworker and his stance was that getting such domains can be worth it, but only if you put on similar content as before. So you have to stick with the theme of the site. If it's a dog site, then you can't put forex on it.

    What's your experience with this?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by JackPowers View Post

      Tom,

      Regarding the dropped domains; I talked with an SEO coworker and his stance was that getting such domains can be worth it, but only if you put on similar content as before. So you have to stick with the theme of the site. If it's a dog site, then you can't put forex on it.

      What's your experience with this?
      Hi Jack,

      I think we need to differentiate between picking up expiring domains that haven't been dropped (which is what I suggest above in terms of GoDaddy closeouts above), and domains that actually have been dropped (i.e., you can pick them up anywhere as "new" domains).

      In terms of picking up expiring domains, I have found that as long as the backlinks remain the PR usually remains. I never copy content (in fact, I almost never know the content of the previous site as it has the GoDaddy "expired site" up, and this is what is cached in Google). But, the sites all held PR during the last PR update. In fact, all of my sites are very general in nature (i.e., not built around any niche or topic).

      Then, there is the issue of dropped domains. Dropped domains should, by most accounts, lost all PR. However, as I noted in another thread over the weekend, I bought a site that used to be a PR4 (but had a good diverse backlink portfolio), but was now showing a PR0 (no doubt because it was dropped) back in February. I added no backlinks to it, put in absolutely new content not even remotely on topic (not to mention the previous site was french and all of the incoming links are in french), and my site is 100% english. Well, my site got rewarded with a PR3 So, it looks like Google did reward the old backlinks and sort of gave me re-credit for them, even with a "new" site.

      Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    I see. Thanks for expanding on what kind of domains you were referring to.

    Actually, as you know, there are many schools on SEO and relevance/page rank discussions will probably not be settled for a while.

    My personal experience is that backlinks and particularly high pr backlinks are still very good even if not relevant, but that's not how many SEO'ers think.

    That's why I asked. I am still thinking that some of the 'relevance' score will diminish if your content will change drastically. I can easily see the idea of going for 'general' sites and expiring domains, because those would naturally have a diverse backlink profile, sort of like a newspaper.

    Thanks again Tom, I am very interested in hearing more about setting up a private network. Btw, do you place links manually or using a script?
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  • Profile picture of the author rizzy
    I am in the process right now of setting up my own private network. I love reading and hearing how other people do their networks. New insights into this strategy are great.

    Thanks for sharing.
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