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H1 tags for SEO and New Site

by robs132
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Hey all,

I can't use H1 tags for my new site (an offline business..gasp!) for aesthetic reasons but I do want to optimize it.

How important are H1 tags?

and what ideas and suggestions do you all have for optimising my site at:

Two Blind Pigs | Organic Drinks and Bar | Bar For Events

Thank you!
#seo #site #tags
  • Profile picture of the author jpf239
    When you optimize a page for seo, the h1 tag is very important it is looked for by the big search engines like they do the title. Of course things constantly change but I wouldn't leave out the h1 tag, and be sure to have your key phrase or words in it.

    Use css, for example: .h1 {font-size: pick a size;} to keep your disered look and feel to your page, and still be able to show search engines your h1 tag, and the keywords you rank for in it.

    Hope that helps:

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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      You need to incorporate the <h1>...<h6> if you really
      want to and forget about the looks. That is, if you
      really feel it is so important. It is not as important as
      other things you do. There is a misconception as to
      what the <h1> heading is. It refers to size, mostly used
      as the headings and sub headings of a paragraph. That's
      it. <h1> is the biggest, <h6> is the smallest. It can be used
      to emphasize words. But remember, you can put whatever
      you want in the <h1>heading, and if your site is not about that
      it is pretty useless. Google always emphasizes making your site
      tweaked toward a human surfer.

      There is no reason you cannot substitute a bold <b> tag in
      its place.

      You have a header image and you don't have a useful alt tag.
      Or alt tag should be "organic drinks and bar">

      And a couple of things more. If you are local, then on page SEO
      is not that important. You just need to be listed in google maps.
      Free and easy to do. Just google how to get listed. Also, you are
      probably looking at type in traffic from ads. Again, putting your url
      out there would not necessitate much on page SEO.

      But you should incorporate the <h1> tag. On your services page,
      you could certainly use it. Just get some of your keywords in it.

      Last, I would skip the fancy image script. Lousy for SEO. I'd use
      the background for the images as the background of a table, and
      put text in there. All browsers and people are not the same.

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      • Profile picture of the author debra
        Here's how you SEO optimize this type of page/site:

        The trick is to synchronize your keywords as much as possible in your source code.

        You have:
        <title>Two Blind Pigs | Organic Drinks and Bar | Bar For Events</title><metaname="description" content="Two Blind Pigs provides the absolute best quality drinks and bar service. We make bespoke botanical and organic cocktails for your event" /><metaname="keywords" content="mobile cocktail bar, bars in mobile, mobile bars, mobile bar, portable bar, catering bar, organic cocktails, organic cocktail, events catering" />Good revision would be:

        <title> Mobile Cocktail Bar | Portable Bar Service | Organic Cocktail Catering</title>
        <metaname="description" content=" Mobile Cocktail Bar | Portable Bar Service serving Organic Cocktails | Special Event Catering for the "TownAndStateYourIn" area." />
        <metaname="keywords" content=" mobile cocktail bar, portable bar service, organic cocktail catering, event catering, portable bar, bar mobile, mobile bar, catering bar" />

        You can also name your .js files to keyphrases.

        You have:
        <scripttype="text/javascript" src="blendimages.js"></script>

        You could add your keyphrase again:
        <scripttype="text/javascript" src="mobilecocktailbar.js"></script>

        You can even get the job done by naming it:
        <scripttype="text/javascript" src="mobile_cocktail_bar.js"></script>

        On your images, you have:

        two-blind-pigs.jpg

        Whereas, you'll get more by naming them your keyword phrases like:

        Mobile-cocktail-bar.jpg
        Portable-bar-service.jpg
        Etc.....

        Your array is:

        <h2><sc ript>var fadeimages=new Array()fadeimages[0]=["images/webpg1.jpg", "", ""]fadeimages[1]=["images/webpg2.jpg", "", ""]fadeimages[2]=["images/webpg3.jpg", "", ""]fadeimages[3]=["images/webpg4.jpg", "", ""]fadeimages[4]=["images/webpg5.jpg", "", ""]</sc ript><sc ripttype="text/javascript">new fadeshow(fadeimages, 940, 480, 0, 4500, 0)</sc ript></h2> When it would be better as:

        <h2><sc ript>var fadeimages=new Array()fadeimages[0]=["images/mobile_bar.jpg", "", ""]fadeimages[1]=["images/portable_bar.jpg", "", ""]fadeimages[2]=["images/organic_cocktail.jpg", "", ""]fadeimages[3]=["images/event_catering.jpg", "", ""]fadeimages[4]=["images/you-get-what-i-mean.jpg", "", ""]</sc ript><sc ripttype="text/javascript">new fadeshow(fadeimages, 940, 480, 0, 4500, 0)</sc ript></h2> And why is that script snippet setting inside an H2 tag?

        I can tell you more on image optimization and putting in a nice H1 title if you are interested.
        And how to optimize it even further using geo meta tags and stuff.

        I had a very hard time getting this to show in a post.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Only thing, meta description is not used by google for SERPs, and
          may or may not be quoted. Meta keywords is completely ignored.

          Javascripts are not normally run by google, or when they are, hardly ran to
          the fullest. Google ignores most, there is not reason for them to
          run the javascript code. Matt Cutts puts it good
          "can a regular person still look at this code and tell what it's doing without even knowing JavaScript?"

          Javascripts are useless for SEO if that's your goal. A lot of people turn it off in fact.

          A better way would be to put all images in a 2x2 table(or whatever size
          works depending on total of images) and use alt tags.

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          • Profile picture of the author debra
            Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

            Only thing, meta description is not used by google for SERPs, and
            may or may not be quoted. Meta keywords is completely ignored.

            Javascripts are not normally run by google, or when they are, hardly ran to
            the fullest. Google ignores most, there is not reason for them to
            run the javascript code. Matt Cutts puts it good
            "can a regular person still look at this code and tell what it's doing without even knowing JavaScript?"

            Javascripts are useless for SEO if that's your goal. A lot of people turn it off in fact.

            A better way would be to put all images in a 2x2 table(or whatever size
            works depending on total of images) and use alt tags.

            Paul
            I'll have to just agree to disagree with you on most all of your points. I'm tried of the fruitless arguments in this part of the forum. That's why I don't circuit here much anymore. The BS floating around is just to exhaustive to be worth while.

            Til then...I'll just keep busy and behind with my repeat seo work.
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            • Profile picture of the author paulgl
              Originally Posted by debra View Post

              I'll have to just agree to disagree with you on most all of your points. I'm tried of the fruitless arguments in this part of the forum. That's why I don't circuit here much anymore. The BS floating around is just to exhaustive to be worth while.

              Til then...I'll just keep busy and behind with my repeat seo work.
              I have no idea what parts you disagree with.

              Google does not use meta keywords or description for any ranking
              or results. That's common knowledge. If people believe they do,
              then they are believing a myth.

              The best practice for SEO is html/text, not javascripts. That is,
              if you were going to do one or the other. Isn't that common
              knowledge? And you can't discount the fact that many people turn it off.

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              • Profile picture of the author debra
                Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

                I have no idea what parts you disagree with.

                Google does not use meta keywords or description for any ranking
                or results. That's common knowledge. If people believe they do,
                then they are believing a myth.
                And..you must be confused. Cuz that's total BS. And a temper tantrum won't change it.

                The best practice for SEO is html/text, not javascripts. That is,
                if you were going to do one or the other. Isn't that common
                knowledge? And you can't discount the fact that many people turn it off.

                Paul
                He never asked what the best way to change his code. He only asked how to optimize what he had. Using tables doesn't help either...that's like going from one frying pan to the other.
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  • Profile picture of the author ninal
    Why not convert your header to an h1 tag? You can use image replacement techniques.
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  • Profile picture of the author ninal
    Also, you can change the script of your slideshow. Search for jquery slideshows. It will allow more freedom in terms of code. And would degrade nicely even if javascript is disabled.
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    • Profile picture of the author Piscola
      How to add a h1 tag in wordpress, ilooked at my sites all have kw in title and description but not in h1 tag.. where is this tag on wordpress?

      thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author ninal
        Originally Posted by Piscola View Post

        How to add a h1 tag in wordpress, ilooked at my sites all have kw in title and description but not in h1 tag.. where is this tag on wordpress?

        thanks
        You can actually use the h1 tag whenever you write a new page or post. You can switch to HTML mode. Some themes though use <h1>,<h2> tags by default for post/page titles.
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  • Profile picture of the author ninal
    What I just normally do is turn off JS and CSS styling and look at how my site degrades. The information/text should be laid out nicely. <h1> being on top of the page and so on and so forth.

    Using tables isn't really a good idea. It makes the site's loading time much slower and it's just plain ugly code which takes so much more time to edit/code.
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