Does Google sand box exist?

:rolleyes: Or may it just DOESN'T EXIST...

If you think that's a lot of sites then you have another thing coming. I made more sites than that in just the month of March.

Some sites rank faster than others, and that's just the nature of the beast, and has nothing to do with any sort of "sandbox." Sometimes as Google's algo absorbs links, sites bounce around (sometimes unbelievably drastically), but it is just the natural process of the link absorption. For some of my newer sites (i.e., less than 6 weeks old), I usually average about 3000 links/month lately (with same individual days hitting 1000 links per domain). Sometimes they bounce around, sometimes they don't. But, in every single case they end up ranking well.

Edit: One thing I forgot to add. One of the biggest mistakes IMers make it seems, is that if their site does move back or whatever, they stop backlinking. They got all scared or whatever, and stop cold turkey and their link velocity goes to pot. Instead of stopping, you need to continue on your backlinking journey.

Tom

Hi jacksonlin,

I have launched many websites, in the thousands, and have never experienced exactly what you described.

Once I get a site indexed it always ranks highly for something, if only an obscure and unique phrase. If it were penalized how could those keywords rank on the first page of SERP?

What you seem to be saying is that you feel you are penalized, not for a specific keyword, but for all keywords. I have yet to see a website that was indexed and couldn't rank well for any keyword at all (unless there was a technical reason i.e. 302 redirect). I would be very interested in seeing such an example. If anyone reading this thread has come across such an example that is still in existence, please share!

The bottom line is that if you rank highly for some keywords and not as high for others it isn't a penalty on your website, it must be keyword competition. You don't get into the top 1000 results unless you have exceeded every other document that has been optimized for that keyword. Not being included in the top 1000 is not evidence that you have been sandboxed, it suggests that you haven't yet earned that ranking.

Now if your page is indexed and you don't rank for any keyword, even phrases unique to your web page, I would believe that you have been penalized. I have heard many a folk make such a claim but it never turned out to be true. I have seen entire websites de-indexed but never penalized while still indexed. If you can provide a single example I think we could all learn from it.

That is nothing.

True spammers will do thousands a day with XRummer. Unless it's a niche closely watched manually by the Google spam team, like male enhancement or dieting, no penalty is likely. (What was your general, not specific, niche, BTW?)

Sites that go viral or have support from a related authority sites will gain 1000's of links very quickly. No penalty or sandbox there either.

Sites with low quality backlinks (aka profile links), devalued links and no authority links will tend to drop dramatically after the original QDF phase or when links are lost or devalued.

The key is quality links, preferably contextual (aka editorial) links from a related authority site.