Site Not Ranking For Its Domain Name

14 years ago

Does it have any external links pointing back at it? That could be the problem...

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VegasGreg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Hitmanad

The site/domain is three months old and is a Wordpress blog with all the right pings, Google xml sitemaps, and All in One SEO Platinum plug-ins.

Those items by themselves won't get your site ranked. The content on the site is more important and the incoming links to the site.

If your domain keyword is monkeywidget.com and your content is about donkeywidgets, then that won't help. If the content is useless scraped material, that would also play a factor. If you have no links coming in to your site, that could be a problem.

So, to analyze the situation properly, we would need a lot more information.

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jennypitts

14 years ago

Originally Posted by VegasGreg

Those items by themselves won't get your site ranked. The content on the site is more important and the incoming links to the site.

If your domain keyword is monkeywidget.com and your content is about donkeywidgets, then that won't help. If the content is useless scraped material, that would also play a factor. If you have no links coming in to your site, that could be a problem.

So, to analyze the situation properly, we would need a lot more information.

I agree with Greg. There is so much more to SEO then what you mention. I think Content, high quality content, is far more important. In addition, so are the quality of its external links. I also agree that you need to supply much more information in order for us to help you.

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Vikram73

14 years ago

Too much going on to really say. If you registered "diet.com" - no amount of SEO will get you to the top over night ;-)

If you picked a good long tail keyword to match your domain name (under 25,000 searches a month etc.) then you can do this easily:

- publish sitemaps to Google
- install appropriate SEO plugins for Word Press
- write some blog posts
- submit those blog posts to directories (eza, go articles etc..)

If your domain is a keyword match - you'll be number one in a few days. This is based on my own experience using .com domains.

It's not easy finding a good domain/keyword match but when you do they are easier to rank.

I've heard other Warriors say that it works just as well for .net/.info etc.

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Dr.faizan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Hitmanad

I'm looking at a site to do SEO on.

But upon doing a little research, the domain name doesn't rank for anything. It doesn't even rank for its own domain name.

I've always heard its a problem when site won't rank for typing in the domain name in Google.

Is this something I should be concerned about? The site/domain is three months old and is a Wordpress blog with all the right pings, Google xml sitemaps, and All in One SEO Platinum plug-ins.

Am I better off getting a new domain name instead?

Hello, If you want to rank for a particular keyword one has to know about google algorithm perfectly. And in your case domain name doesn't really have much effect on keyword ranking. Get an article related to your keyword (preferably seo article) Use h1 tags in it and I am sure you will definitely rank in top 3. Any more thing I can do then please PM me.. I would love to answer..

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Hitmanad 14 years ago

Maybe I didn't explain well enough.

I don't mean ranking for a keyword phrase. I mean it's not ranking for its own domain name. In other words I Google the domain name with the "www" and nothing is coming up in the top 100 searches.

The domain name isn't even a keyword someone would search for, so it's not a competitive issue. It's an issue of the site not being indexed at all after three months.

I'm just thinking there is an issue with this domain name that I need to call on the carpet BEFORE I take on the SEO. Is there?
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paulgl 14 years ago

If you do a search for website.com and it's not
in the results, it has not been indexed.

(Unless, someone can say that is is and there is
some other strange thing going on.)

Either google hates your site, or you have not linked
it on crawled sites. The latter seems unlikely, so
google probably does not like the site for some reason.

On the other hand, if you are talking about just the
words in the domain, like if you have baldmonkey.com
and do a search for baldmonkey, it may not show up.

Perhaps this is where you are coming from.

If this is the case, you must have swallowed the hook about
domain names. That somehow a domain name is magic.
It's not. You seriously have to do some backlinking and
get some authority. Have you tried to find out what words
it ranks for? That would be helpful.

Put in quotation marks something off of your page. Like
a complete sentence that you know is unique to your page.
Do a search for that. If it still comes up nil, you have a
serious problem. Google just does not like the site.

Without seeing it or knowing anything about you or your past,
it would be hard to pinpoint it.

You also mentioned nothing of content. Your laundry list of
things was what people like me call a magical potion.
Completely devoid of real SEO.

You need to work on site structure, title, headings, urls,
and content.

Course it is kind of odd that someone who is planning SEO
is coming here and asking something like ditching the domain.

Paul
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kachaloo

14 years ago

I have had bad experience with having too many "-" and long domain names when ranking.

I personally don't like to exceed 13 chars for domain names it just looks too spammy.

hope this helps.

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Hitmanad 14 years ago

Thanks Paul. That's what I was thinking.

Let me say this again, this has nothing to do with keyword phrases. The domain name is NOT part of the keyword phrase. I understand the domain name isn't the end-all in SEO.

I'm not interested in this because of keywords. I'm concerned that the site isn't ranking at all, even when I Google the domain name with the "www" in front of it.

The main index.php does NOT come up in Google or Yahoo. But a few of the sub pages come up when I search for "www" dot domainname followed by dot com (the forum won't let me post the address).
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jstover77

Banned 14 years ago

How long have you had the site up? It sounds like Google hasn't indexed the index page yet. Could be a lot of things.

Write the site out like this www. yoursite dot com. So we can look at it if the forum isn't letting you put it up.

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Hitmanad

14 years ago

Site has been up for three months.

The domain is www cleaningservicesga dot com

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jstover77

Banned 14 years ago

Edit: I see what your are saying. For some reason they have indexed /news, and /services, but not your index page when you look it up with the www. When you look it up without the www, the main index page does show up though.

Yahoo hasn't even indexed your site yet. Just need to keep backlinking to it to get their spiders crawling the site.

Your on page optimization looks ok, and I don't see anything thata sticks out. Google is still in data collection mode with your site. Keep backlinking and it will improve.

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paulgl

14 years ago

I just did a search for "cleaningservicesga.com"
(with quotes)
the site is #1.

In fact, gets a double listing with the news.

I highly suggest you get on google maps.
It's free. Anyone doing a search will zero in
on the city.

If not, you are up against the big chains that on
google will have a lock on the top, eg, servicemagic.

It is imperative for any local business to be on google
maps. What matters in google maps is not backlinks,
but relevancy, location, and user ratings.

Paul

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Hitmanad

14 years ago

Absolutely. Google maps would be the first thing we'd do.

I haven't taken this site on as a client yet...

So is it best to search without the "www" when doing this check or with? I thought it was best to search with the "www".

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paulgl

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Hitmanad

Absolutely. Google maps would be the first thing we'd do.

I haven't taken this site on as a client yet...

So is it best to search without the "www" when doing this check or with? I thought it was best to search with the "www".

Google may see it as 2 different sites. I just did a search
without the www out of habit.

On all my urls, I 301 redirect the www to the non www.
That's just my preference.

Keep in mind that all variations www, no www, with the /,
without the slash, without slash, /index.php, all point
to the same site, but may look like duplicate content.
I say may, because I can't see why google in all it's
brilliance would ever think that. It makes no sense, really,
to actually treat it as different urls. But, like I said,
there is a slight chance. But since the non www is indexed,
I'd backlink off that and 301 the www to the non www.

Again, simply my preference.

I will also say that there are some server issues. Various
servers may not be able to find your www .domain.com,
but readily load the non www. I have never been given
a straight answer on that.

Paul

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jstover77

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Hitmanad

Absolutely. Google maps would be the first thing we'd do.

I haven't taken this site on as a client yet...

So is it best to search without the "www" when doing this check or with? I thought it was best to search with the "www".

When I look at my analytics for all the sites I own and manage 90% of the searches for the domain are done without the "www".

If someone is outranking your domain as the keyword, you can use the website address (w/ www and without it) as the keyword in the anchor text of the site that you are backlinking from.

Here is a little tip to get you a good backlink to boost your serps. Put the URL in your signature, and use the website address as the anchor text just as you see below in my sig. This is also a good way to get the spiders crawling your site more often.

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Hitmanad 14 years ago

The reason I'm being so cautious is I took on a site several months ago that had the problem of not ranking for it's domain name. No matter what I did I couldn't get it to rank at all. I 301 directed it and give it tons of links.

So I'm a bit more careful with new sites I take on for SEO.

And good idea with adding some links to your signature. How many is too many?
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Charleskidd

14 years ago

It will be hard with competition in all. If I were you I would continue to back link until they index it.

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Intrepreneur 14 years ago

I have this same problem and everytime I search I get a suggestion for other sites with names similar to mine.

Is this a bad idea to keep going or should I keep plugging away? As it is indexed just not ranking for domain.com or domainname.
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Toby.T

14 years ago

hmm it is odd.
the pc trainer link in my sig, is about 3 days old and you can find it in google. Not sure how it works, usually traffic and backlinks, Keep updating the site. I have about 8 solid posts of new content.

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pandorasbox

14 years ago

I know this might seem dumb but do you have a title matching domain name, not the domain name it self but the keywords, do you have meta tags, is content relevant. If competition is very high for keyword, organic domain will only help you achieve the status of page 1 with 75% less work but still need to do 25% of what your competitors did to get to page 1.

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RokNStoK

14 years ago

Sounds like he's been relegated to the 'supplemental index'. You can appeal through webmaster tools.

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