Dmoz Listing - Need Help

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Hey I am doing work for a couple clients and want to get there sites listed on DMOZ. I have tried it a number of times but for some reason did not get listed. Does anyone think they could help me out with my situation. I would really REALLY appreciate the help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    I tried getting listed there a long time ago. Never did happen.

    I wonder how much weight Google actually attributes to a DMOZ listing. Why reward a site for doing something anyone can do... (considering, pretty much any site can eventually get listed.)
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  • Profile picture of the author deaddogdesign
    It does carry a lot of weight to have a DMOZ listing though. The problem is you have to get accepted. Maybe there are some tricks to the trade I don't know .
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    • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
      Originally Posted by deaddogdesign View Post

      It does carry a lot of weight to have a DMOZ listing though. The problem is you have to get accepted. Maybe there are some tricks to the trade I don't know .
      It carries virtually no weight, if any at all, and it hasn't for years and years.
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      • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
        Originally Posted by Rich Struck View Post

        It carries virtually no weight, if any at all, and it hasn't for years and years.
        How do you know that? You have absolutly no idea if that is the case or not!
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        • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
          Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

          How do you know that? You have absolutly no idea if that is the case or not!
          Yawn. You're right, I don't know anything. I haven't been making a full time living online for almost 10 years now. I don't get hundreds of thousands of Google visitors a month. I don't work 2 hours a week, if that, and enjoy full time pay. And I certainly don't know if DMOZ, which is widely regarded as being extremely corrupt and therefore of NO USE TO GOOGLE ANYMORE is worth a **** or not. But you do. lol. Okay. Whatever.
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          • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
            Originally Posted by Rich Struck View Post

            Yawn. You're right, I don't know anything. I haven't been making a full time living online for almost 10 years now. I don't get hundreds of thousands of Google visitors a month. I don't work 2 hours a week, if that, and enjoy full time pay. And I certainly don't know if DMOZ, which is widely regarded as being extremely corrupt and therefore of NO USE TO GOOGLE ANYMORE is worth a **** or not. But you do. lol. Okay. Whatever.
            Well actually I have no idea either. None of us do. Rather than resort to tactics of attacking me, why not explain why you made the claim up for? Or perhaps you have a link to the announcement where Google said that a DMOZ listing is not worth it.

            Also, it says a lot about you that you want to get into a pissing contest over this! What has your 10 years and working 2/hrs a day got to do with Google and DMOZ?
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            • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
              Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

              Well actually I have no idea either. None of us do.
              No, you have no idea. I know it as a fact and anyone who has been online more than 2 weeks knows it as well. A DMOZ link might count for an inbound link but that's about it.

              Now back in the old days, yes, a DMOZ link was valuable and it was worthwhile. In fact, AOL use to use it for something (I forget exactly what now) but that traffic was golden and everyone who was able to tap into it made money.

              Then the corruption hit and after a while all of the search engines figured out what we already knew - DMOZ is a corrupt good-old-boys-club and it's links are no better than any other directory, probably worse now.

              So go ahead, waste your time submitting to a directory that will never list you unless you are an editor or willing to pay someone off. Have a good time.
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              • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
                Originally Posted by Rich Struck View Post

                A DMOZ link might count for an inbound link but that's about it.
                So now you are admitting its worth something. You just said it was worth virtually nothing!
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                • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
                  Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

                  So now you are admitting its worth something. You just said it was worth virtually nothing!
                  Read what you just wrote then try it again.

                  sigh
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        • Profile picture of the author Hanz
          Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

          How do you know that? You have absolutly no idea if that is the case or not!
          Hi cbpayne. I have one Blogger Blog which is listed on DMOZ. I never did any backlinking or SEO on it whatsoever. From what I know, DMOZ hasn't really helped my blog in any way whatsoever. It was basically just a blog I made in an hour and threw up and forgot about altogether. I don't get any traffic to it or anything. Which tells me Dmoz isn't that big of a deal. Maybe at one time it was but today, maybe it isn't. That's my guess.
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          • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
            Originally Posted by Hanz View Post

            Hi cbpayne. I have one Blogger Blog which is listed on DMOZ. I never did any backlinking or SEO on it whatsoever. From what I know, DMOZ hasn't really helped my blog in any way whatsoever. It was basically just a blog I made in an hour and threw up and forgot about altogether. I don't get any traffic to it or anything. Which tells me Dmoz isn't that big of a deal. Maybe at one time it was but today, maybe it isn't. That's my guess.
            I have never made the claim that a DMOZ link is valuable. Its just a link that may or may not be worth something. I have never claimed any different.
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    • Originally Posted by deaddogdesign View Post

      It does carry a lot of weight to have a DMOZ listing though. The problem is you have to get accepted. Maybe there are some tricks to the trade I don't know .
      There are no tricks (unless you are personal friends with the editor for your particular category).

      Submit it and forget it. It does absolutely no good to resubmit it ever 3-6 months. The backlog at DMOZ in some categories can be hundreds of thousands of sites. You just have to wait until the editor gets around to looking at it.

      If the category you're submitting to does not have an editor, you may try submitting to a slightly different category (but still relevant) that does have an editor. Or apply to be an editor yourself so that you can approve your client's submission.

      But other than that... there's not a lot you can do.
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      • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
        Originally Posted by kaburulu View Post

        even i failed 10 times
        If you tried 10 times, then there is a possibility you got banned for spamming
        Originally Posted by The Godfather View Post

        cbpayne, this is the only post that you did not respond to. Why not just tell everyone that you WERE an editor instead of getting involved in a 'pissing match'? You would have gotten a lot more respect in this thread.
        What was the point in responding. Rob just pointed out that I used to be an editor, which is the case. Why would I want to respond?
        Originally Posted by Social-Media-Marketing View Post

        If the category you're submitting to does not have an editor,
        For the third time, there is no category without an editor. Submitting to a category with a named editor or not, whill make no difference in the time frame until a review.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Perry
          Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

          What was the point in responding. Rob just pointed out that I used to be an editor, which is the case. Why would I want to respond?
          I'm just saying that if you had mentioned this before Rob had pointed it out, you probably would have garnered a little more respect and credibility.

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  • Profile picture of the author dave147
    When did you list? It can take months to get listed there.
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  • Profile picture of the author deaddogdesign
    It was about 5 months ago. Then I tried another one 3 months ago. I don't understand why they won't accept a business I am doing SEO for .
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  • Profile picture of the author ahaller
    There will also be some categories which you cannot submit to, found this out by spending way to much time on DMOZ!

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    • Profile picture of the author deaddogdesign
      lol....almost getting to the point where I will pay someone to get it listed in DMOZ.
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      • Profile picture of the author Hanz
        I got my horror movies review blog listed on DMOZ and I didn't even know it. I actually never even submitted it. I did submit some other sites to DMOZ which never got accepted though. Weird how it all works.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    To get listed on DMOZ these days seems almost impossible, there is no rhyme or reason to their decisions.
    Just keep trying you might get lucky, try different categories.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      To get listed on DMOZ these days seems almost impossible, there is no rhyme or reason to their decisions.
      Just keep trying you might get lucky, try different categories.
      Well supposedly it's human editors who are making decisions as to what goes in or not. They want, from my understanding, sites with good original content which aren't designed to try to entice people into buying something. That's my guess anyway based on which of my sites were accepted and which were rejected.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by deaddogdesign View Post

      I have tried it a number of times but for some reason did not get listed.
      You should then offer them a refund. Why did you submit more than once for? Why did you not follow the guidelines that you agree to when you submitted them for?

      All resubmitting does is overwrite the previous submission with the new date and will only lengthen the time before you get reviewed. Too many resubmissions and you run the risk of a ban. Your clients will not be happy that you hurt there chances of a review.

      There is NEVER a need to resubmit. Doing so will hurt you.

      Once you have submitted ONCE to the ONE best category, there is nothing more that can be done and there is no help that can be given.

      Some time between now and never, when an editor decides to work on the category, they may or may not look at the suggested sites as one of the sources that they can use to find news sites to build a category.
      Originally Posted by Hanz View Post

      I got my horror movies review blog listed on DMOZ and I didn't even know it. I actually never even submitted it.
      More than half the sites that get listed in DMOZ were never submitted in the first place. The role of the editor is to find sites that add value to the category. To do that they use numerous sources to find sites. It just so happens that the submitted sites are so full of crap its an inefficient way to find the good sites, so some editors will not even look at them; some might scan them; and some will use them. The role of an editor is not to process submissions. If you want that service, you will have to go to other directories.
      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      To get listed on DMOZ these days seems almost impossible,
      9000 sites got added in January and 6000 in february.
      Originally Posted by Ryan D View Post

      But if you want to improve your odds, try contacting an editor and bribing them to put you in. The worst thing they can do is say no....or bait you into giving your site and banning you forever...
      Try explaining that strategy to all those sites that were so desperate for a listing they tried it and are now banned. ... really bad move.

      BTW - I am NOT an editor
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      • Profile picture of the author bcwebwise12
        Impossible thing to do but you must be patient enough to get listed. Just follow the guidelines while doing your listing the best way is to try becoming editor for dmoz. It will definitely hely you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ryan D
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        Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

        .Try explaining that strategy to all those sites that were so desperate for a listing they tried it and are now banned. ... really bad move.

        BTW - I am NOT an editor
        Who cares? It's not like a DMOZ link is the end all be all. If you just submit and forget, you probably have a .00001% chance of actually getting in. So trying to bribe your way in has great upside for little downside.

        I don't get why they just don't start charging $300 for a review fee. Get a staff to review paid submissions and then maintain an editors category where the editors picks are listed.

        Who are they kidding? It's not like they're doing God's work and it needs to remain non-profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan D
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    5 years ago, I managed to get a site listed. 4 years ago, I actually had a site I didn't submitted added by an eager editor.

    Now, it's pretty much impossible. I don't think they add any sites there.

    But if you want to improve your odds, try contacting an editor and bribing them to put you in. The worst thing they can do is say no....or bait you into giving your site and banning you forever...which is probably not a big deal considering you wouldn't get listed in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    The whole listing where you get Google love if you can get listed at DMOZ or you pay hundreds every year for someone to list your site in one of the big boy directories is totally whacked.
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  • Profile picture of the author rypher21
    unlike other sites, approval in dmoz takes time or sometimes its just rejected without prior notice and that...
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkAse
    Personally speaking, I think for our own sanity...better to submit and then move on. DMOZ is a hot topic around here and other IM boards and having been blasted more then once by editors when I've asked if the process involved any goal tending....I'll try and stay away from the topic. At least, I'll stay away for the most part lol.

    I'm not listed yet either, according to one editor my site is still in the approval que.

    I've decided to build a part of my wine site specifically to get a free Yahoo Directory listing as well as a few others.
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  • Profile picture of the author licketysplit
    I'm going to tell you what a DMOZ editor told me awhile ago:

    You can submit your site to DMOZ all you want, but none of the editors there are required to ever even look at it. All submissions go into what is essentially a trash bin to languish there for eternity - DMOZ editors will only look at them if they want to (which they rarely if ever do).

    So to sum it up, you aren't getting your site listed there unless you bribe one of the editors or get extremely lucky.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by Ryan D View Post

      Who cares? It's not like a DMOZ link is the end all be all. If you just submit and forget, you probably have a .00001% chance of actually getting in. So trying to bribe your way in has great upside for little downside.
      Dosen't make sense. On the one hand you think that a link is not that important and then on the other hand you seem to think its worth paying money for.

      Where did you get the .0001% from. Are you making it up?
      Originally Posted by licketysplit View Post

      So to sum it up, you aren't getting your site listed there unless you bribe one of the editors or get extremely lucky.
      then could you explain how the 9000 sites got listed in January and the 6000 sites got listed in February? That makes DMOZ the fastes growing directory on the web by a substantial margin.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ryan D
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        Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

        Dosen't make sense. On the one hand you think that a link is not that important and then on the other hand you seem to think its worth paying money for.

        Where did you get the .0001% from. Are you making it up?
        then could you explain how the 9000 sites got listed in January and the 6000 sites got listed in February? That makes DMOZ the fastes growing directory on the web by a substantial margin.
        I said it wasn't the end all be all, but everything has a price. But if you feel that it is important, then make an offer based on what you feel it's worth.

        How do you know it's the fastest growing directory on the web by a substatial margin? Are you making that up? Are you privy to the numbers of Yahoo Directory and BOTW?

        The point is, the odds are low that you'll get in. So if it's important to you, you can either sit back and do nothing or take some action. It's not illegal you know?
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        • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
          Originally Posted by Ryan D View Post

          How do you know it's the fastest growing directory on the web by a substatial margin? Are you making that up? Are you privy to the numbers of Yahoo Directory and BOTW?
          I have no reason to make it up. Anyone can check the facts. Download successive rdf dumps from DMOZ to see the increases. Monitor the Yahoo and BOTW 'whats new' pages. Unlike you I do not need to make numbers up. Rather than attcak me why not explain why you picked that number out of thin air and made it up?
          Yahoo lists 10-50/day - not remotely close to DMOZ. BOTW is approx 50-70% of the numbers that DMOZ does.
          The point is, the odds are low that you'll get in. So if it's important to you, you can either sit back and do nothing or take some action. It's not illegal you know?
          Doing anything other than submitting once (eg resubmitting; submitting to a different categiry; or offering to pay) is more likely to hurt your chances of a listing than help.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ryan D
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            Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

            I have no reason to make it up. Anyone can check the facts. Download successive rdf dumps from DMOZ to see the increases. Monitor the Yahoo and BOTW 'whats new' pages. Unlike you I do not need to make numbers up. Rather than attcak me why not explain why you picked that number out of thin air and made it up?
            Yahoo lists 10-50/day - not remotely close to DMOZ. BOTW is approx 50-70% of the numbers that DMOZ does.Doing anything other than submitting once (eg resubmitting; submitting to a different categiry; or offering to pay) is more likely to hurt your chances of a listing than help.
            Who cares what actual numbers are? A lot of people submit, very few get accepted. If you think it's 1, 2, .0001, or 50%....the decision is up to the submitter whether they want to bribe their way in. I can guarantee you that your chances go up when you layout cash.

            And you're not an editor my a*s. The way you answer questions I think your name is Joe Dmoz. I've never heard someone defend that POS directory so much.
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            • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
              Originally Posted by Ryan D View Post

              Who cares what actual numbers are? A lot of people submit, very few get accepted. If you think it's 1, 2, .0001, or 50%....the decision is up to the submitter whether they want to bribe their way in. I can guarantee you that your chances go up when you layout cash..
              That would only be an issue if DMOZ was there to provide a listing service, which its not. DMOZ is building a directory of webistes. To assist an editor in building a category, DMOZ allows any member of the public to suggest a site. That suggestion may or may not be used. Plenty of other directories offer a submission processing service, DMOZ is just not one of them. A large part of the problem is webmasters failure to understand what DMOZ is and to have service expectations when DMOZ is not even there to service webmasters.
              And you're not an editor my a*s.
              Please do not lie or accuse me of this. I will type this next bit really slow, as you missed it last time:
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        Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

        Dosen't make sense. On the one hand you think that a link is not that important and then on the other hand you seem to think its worth paying money for.

        Where did you get the .0001% from. Are you making it up?
        then could you explain how the 9000 sites got listed in January and the 6000 sites got listed in February? That makes DMOZ the fastes growing directory on the web by a substantial margin.

        Where are you getting your numbers from?
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        • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
          Originally Posted by ham.bone View Post

          Where are you getting your numbers from?
          I have been downloading the RDF dump from DMOZ for over a year now - you can work out the new additions there -- its usually 3000-6000 new sites a month, but there was one month earlier this year where is was over 9000 (do not have the actual data in from of me at the moment)
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    • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
      Originally Posted by licketysplit View Post

      I'm going to tell you what a DMOZ editor told me awhile ago:

      You can submit your site to DMOZ all you want, but none of the editors there are required to ever even look at it. All submissions go into what is essentially a trash bin to languish there for eternity - DMOZ editors will only look at them if they want to (which they rarely if ever do).

      So to sum it up, you aren't getting your site listed there unless you bribe one of the editors or get extremely lucky.
      Or unless you become an editor yourself. That is the only sure way.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Consider DMOZ a luxury. If you are accepted and listed, great. If not, then focus your efforts elsewhere.

    If you have time to sit around and whinge about it, theres something wrong with your business model.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnhoefer
    The only way to get into DMOZ is to become an editor. I applied to be an editor for the insurance niche in my state and got it within a week. It is very simple. Just find a spot in your niche that has an opening for an editor and apply. Imagine how many more DMOZ insertions you can charge for when you are the editor.
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  • Profile picture of the author robjones3030
    Have always been amazed at the level of heated emotion on this topic. It's just a web directory. Having witnessed most of its history closeup, I wrote a bit of its history and answered a few FAQs about it at DP at the request of some mods that hoped to quell some of the vitriolic / repetitious threads there.

    [It's a sticky in that section still, but it did zip to even slow the fighting. LOL]

    I won't bother repeating the whole thing, but bottom line, despite its warts, it's a good link to have. It's far from the magic bullet it was in the early days of SEO, but a good link nonetheless.

    Given the age of the dir it faces a "link rot" issue that'd empty a smaller directory, and despite the amount of sites added in a given month there's an ongoing battle between the links-checker that kills dead sites and the editors adding them. Just a function of age.

    That probably negates a claim to "fastest growing" since a look at the wayback machine confirms the overall number of listing to be below figures from years past, but the directory still has active editors and it still adds many sites regularly. The common conception that the only sites added are editor sites is a bit of an urban legend. It happens, as does editor-as-competitor, but it isnt the norm.

    Takes a couple of minutes max to submit a site, and yeah, the odds of inclusion and the time it takes vary dramatically from one category to the next... so the answer is to submit and walk away and forget the whole thing. If it gets in, good, if not, you wasted a few minutes.

    And re:
    Please do not lie or accuse me of this. I will type this next bit really slow, as you missed it last time:
    I a m n o t a n e d i t o r
    Well, not currently, but they do leave the profiles up ya know.
    See: http{colon //}editors.dmoz.org/editors/profile.cgi?editor=cbp

    All just fyi stuff, I'm not arguing a point here, just saying it's not a topic worth haggling over. Submit & forget" is the best possible advice. Don't waste time trying to game the system, dont worry about if it gets in or not. The time wasted on those activities is best spent on SEO/SEM items you have control over.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Perry
      Originally Posted by robjones3030 View Post


      And re: (regarding cbpayne being an editor)

      Well, not currently, but they do leave the profiles up ya know.
      See: http{colon //}editors.dmoz.org/editors/profile.cgi?editor=cbp
      cbpayne, this is the only post that you did not respond to. Why not just tell everyone that you WERE an editor instead of getting involved in a 'pissing match'? You would have gotten a lot more respect in this thread.

      Also, I think Rob Jones has a good point: It's not worth mulling over...just submit once and forget, then focus on other SEO strategies

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  • Profile picture of the author deaddogdesign
    Yeah no big deal on the dmoz. I have found many other great directory listing. This list will show you a bunch of good directories to help your seo:

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    Deaddogdesign----Thanks for the directory list!
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    No problem, have been using it a lot to build strong links for clients
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  • Profile picture of the author petevamp
    I have never gotten a site listed there. However I do remember seeing something everytime I tried getting a site listed there.

    Once I submitted my site/s there on the thank you for submitting to dmoz page it says they are looking for individuals/experts in that field to review listings for that particular category. If you can land that gig then how can they stop you from accepting your own sites. It may have changed since the last time I submitted one of my sites though.
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  • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
    I made bank with dmoz 7-8 years ago but now it is not worth the time. It was also extremely corrupt then because of the weight it carried and the amount of AOL traffic to be had. The editors control the listings and it can be hard to get in but why bother now? It is really not worth it. Go get some hr pr backlinks and forget dmoz.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotftuna
    1) Read the guidelines, 2)submit your site properly, 3)then forget about it.

    If your site is not listed in six months, go to step 2.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by hotftuna View Post

      1) Read the guidelines, 2)submit your site properly, 3)then forget about it.

      If your site is not listed in six months, go to step 2.
      If you want to get listed, then PLEASE do NOT do this. When you resubmit, you just overwrite the previous submission and you just move yourself to the back of the pile!
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      • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
        Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

        If you want to get listed, then PLEASE do NOT do this. When you resubmit, you just overwrite the previous submission and you just move yourself to the back of the pile!
        But what if you're site isn't still in line and it just didn't get approved? In my experience, you don't get any kind of notification that your site has been reviewed.
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        • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
          Originally Posted by Jacob Martus View Post

          But what if you're site isn't still in line and it just didn't get approved?
          99.9% of the time a site is rejected, its almost never listable, so resubmitting for whatever reason is a waste of your time and will hurt you if its still waiting to be reviewed
          In my experience, you don't get any kind of notification that your site has been reviewed.
          no you don't. all you get is a 'thank you' for your suggestion screen after you have suggested. An editor may or may not use the pool of suggested site when looking for new sites to add. You may or may not get reviewed. DMOZ make no promises.
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        • Profile picture of the author raviv
          One important thing you have to be aware of about DMOZ submission is this:

          The more you keep submitting the same site repeatedly, the harder your chances of getting that site listed as every subsequent submission overrides the older submission. Your latest date of submission becomes the reference date for consideration.

          As for the reputation of DMOZ, in the last few years, people who have become editors have promoted their own sites and friends/relatives sites and given preferential treatment to get some sites included. This was in the news for all the wrong reasons and the reputation of DMOZ took a hit.

          Recently they have revamped the system. Most categories (as you dig in deeper) will not have an editor. You have to keep going up the hierarchy till you see an editor's name at a certain level.

          Even if you find an editor, most of them specifically mention they do not want to receive emails about user submissions.

          DMOZ has been around for ages and hence a link on such a powerful domain should be worth something. Those sites that have got in are lucky. I have tried submitting sites in the past five years for different clients and none of them have been listed.

          If you get your site listed successfully on DMOZ, consider yourself blessed.
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        • Profile picture of the author IMStudentforlife
          Myself and a couple friends tried to get accepted as a editor on different topics. Needless to say none of us were accepted.

          The one friends tried to get their other friends to be accepted. There seems to be no new acceptance of editors ever, And they seem to have this exclusivity club going on.

          I get it, but why let a good thing die??
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          • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
            Originally Posted by IMStudentforlife View Post

            There seems to be no new acceptance of editors ever
            I do not know what motivates people to continually make things up. WHere are you getting this information from?

            About 150 new editors get accepted each month.

            Those that are not accepted usually demonstrate in their application that they are not capable of following the guidelines in the sample sites that give and how they write the descriptions.
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            • Profile picture of the author IMStudentforlife
              Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

              I do not know what motivates people to continually make things up. WHere are you getting this information from?

              About 150 new editors get accepted each month.

              Those that are not accepted usually demonstrate in their application that they are not capable of following the guidelines in the sample sites that give and how they write the descriptions.

              "There seems to be no new acceptance of editors ever" This would make it just my opinion. I am just posting my opinion here from what I have seen in the past...
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      • Profile picture of the author hotftuna
        Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

        If you want to get listed, then PLEASE do NOT do this. When you resubmit, you just overwrite the previous submission and you just move yourself to the back of the pile!
        How do you overwrite the previous submission? That makes no sense.

        I would agree that if you submit often enough to become annoying, you will not help your case. Twice per year is enough.
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        • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
          Originally Posted by hotftuna View Post

          How do you overwrite the previous submission? That makes no sense.
          What bit do you not get? If you resubmit, it overwrites your previous submission - its that simple. What hard to understand about that? DMOZ implemented that yrs ago because of people resubmitting all the time.
          Twice per year is enough.
          As I said, please do not follow this really bad advice if you want to get listed.
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  • Profile picture of the author skibbz
    It has taken me ages to get listed in dmoz, it cant figure it out myself...however I have seen some sites do very well and get alot of traffic without being listed there
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  • Profile picture of the author staffjam
    I finally got one of my sites listed i submitted about 7 months ago. I think the only reason it got in is because i submitted it to about 6 different categories - and finally one of the mods there woke up and took a look at it. It really seems to be pot luck nowadays.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by staffjam View Post

      I finally got one of my sites listed i submitted about 7 months ago. I think the only reason it got in is because i submitted it to about 6 different categories - and finally one of the mods there woke up and took a look at it. It really seems to be pot luck nowadays.
      That would not have been the reason. Consider yourself lucky that all 6 submission were not deleted for spamming. The guidelines you agreed to when you submitted said that you submit once to only one category. You are lucky that you stayed under the radar scope. Your spamming just created a whole lot of extra work for the editors in deleting them and people complain that the "wait" is so long ... don't figure. ... editors are so busy with deleting your crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
    At this point i submit a site once and forget about it. I can't waste my time worrying about trying to get it submitted here. Submit once, then move on to others. If accepted great, if not - whatever.
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    Why not just look every few weeks or so at the number of editors listed on the DMOZ home page and see the number go up, rather than spread rumors that are not true.

    Your opinion is clearly wrong and not supported by the facts.

    What are you hoping to gain by starting rumors that are not true?
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    • Profile picture of the author IMStudentforlife
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      Why not just look every few weeks or so at the number of editors listed on the DMOZ home page and see the number go up, rather than spread rumors that are not true.

      Your opinion is clearly wrong and not supported by the facts.

      What are you hoping to gain by starting rumors that are not true?
      Re-read my prior post, no ulterior motive just my opinion.

      Don't like my opinion don't read what I have to say, simple!
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  • Profile picture of the author karenloye
    I really don't worry about DMOZ anymore. When it comes to the criteria that helps with SEO, there are far more important things to address. In my experience, the keyword in title tag and page url, along with quality inbound links from other sites, have far more impact that a DMOZ listing. I'll still try for it, but if it never happens, it's not the end of the world.
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  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    I submitted a quality site well over a year ago and never heard a thing.

    I looked at it recently and realized the category did not have an editor. So I took the time to apply and never heard back.

    DMOZ seems very unprofessional and irresponsible.

    They don't appear to deserve the respect they are given.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

      I submitted a quality site well over a year ago and never heard a thing.
      You don't hear anything as DMOZ is not there to provide any sort of listing service to webmasters.
      I looked at it recently and realized the category did not have an editor.
      No category is without an editor
      So I took the time to apply and never heard back.
      You should have got an autoresponder to confirm your application. If you did not get that, then your application would not have been processed.
      DMOZ seems very unprofessional and irresponsible.
      They don't appear to deserve the respect they are given.
      DMOZ is not there to provide a service to webmasters. Have you not noticed that the only people whinging about DMOZ are webmasters who are expecting a listing service! ... don't figure! If you don't like the service that you are getting, ask for a refund and take your business elsewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    I am not whining. I am stating facts. Of course I don't like the service - there wasn't any. The category said it did not have an editor. I took the time to apply and submit an honest quality application and I never heard back.

    The whole site seems very unprofessional in the way they don't respond to submissions, applications etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    You are whining! You are whining about DMOZ not providing you with a service! What are you providing in return for this service you are expecting? You get what you pay for ... you paying nothing to DMOZ, so DMOZ owes you nothing in return.

    Do you also complain about everyone else who does not provide you with a service, but have no obligation to provide you with one?
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    • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      You are whining! You are whining about DMOZ not providing you with a service! What are you providing in return for this service you are expecting? You get what you pay for ... you paying nothing to DMOZ, so DMOZ owes you nothing in return.

      Do you also complain about everyone else who does not provide you with a service, but have no obligation to provide you with one?
      To me the site is unprofessional. I don't conduct business by ignoring people whether I have an obligation to them or not. It is a shame that Google seems to like it so much.

      You can think what you like. I really can't be bothered to get all worked up over DMOZ nor is the site worth arguing about.
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      • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
        Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

        To me the site is unprofessional. I don't conduct business by ignoring people whether I have an obligation to them or not. .
        Thats my point! They are NOT a business! Other diectories are a business - they charge for listing; they show you advertisements; they add you to their emailing list - you are providing them something in return for the service. DMOZ does not do that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    You don't get an acceptance, or denial confirmation. Just schedule a reminder to check every 90 or 180 days. What's funny if you search, 'Google Directory'...it goes to DMOZ. So, the DMOZ inclusion, still has weight in Google's eyes. Thanks again Matt for most of the story.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by theseoguys View Post

      Just schedule a reminder to check every 90 or 180 days.
      Why would you even want to waste your time doing that for?

      Think about; what will happen... either:
      1) Your site is listed --> there is nothing more you can do and life goes on
      2) Your site has been moved by the editor to anothe category --> there is nothing more you can do and life goes on
      3) Your site is still waiting to be reviewed --> there is nothing more you can do and life goes on
      4) Your site is rejected --> there is nothing more you can do and life goes on

      The advice above about submit ONCE to the ONE best category and forget about it is the best advice you can get.
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  • Profile picture of the author fanatic123
    According to the reviews of people on the internet, most people never got listed on DMOZ, never tried it out for myself though.
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