Domain Age Tip

sprakash

14 years ago

Thanks to share the tips.

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SDC

14 years ago

Thanks for the tips... just beware that you may need a full reinclusion into the Google database if the seo for the exisiting domain has not been done well.

This is not an issue long term, just takes a couple of weeks.

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seoforu

14 years ago

Ya that's true,Google favors domains which are older so working on older domains is lot more easier than the new ones.

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bgmacaw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by robmena

but you are pushing a 50/50 chance of getting to play in the sandbox.

There is no 'sandbox'.

Originally Posted by robmena

Another tip is don't just register your domain for a 1 year, if your serious about it register it for the long haul, looks better for Google.

Google doesn't track this in their primary algorithms. They don't track domain ownership and transfers at all algorithmically. Of course, people selling domain registration would like for you to believe that they do.

Domain age isn't what's being tracked but link age. A 10 year old domain that's been parked for 10 years and has no incoming links is just the same as a brand new domain. A 5 year old domain with 5 years worth of good links can perform amazingly well. It's all in the links, their authority and age, and not really in the domain itself.

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PhilipSEO

14 years ago

Originally Posted by robmena

Many people want SEO done for a site, most of them come to us with a brand new Domain, which can be ok at times, but you are pushing a 50/50 chance of getting to play in the sandbox. The best thing to do is buy a domain that is a few years old and if possible with content already being on it for awhile.

Another tip is don't just register your domain for a 1 year, if your serious about it register it for the long haul, looks better for Google.

Then once you have that domain whatever SEO techniques you do will be fine as opposed to a new site, not to say a new site wont do just as good and stop thinking alot of links will be bad for your site, just keep it consistent.

No offense, this is is a myth (as bgmacaw has already pointed out).

1. Domain age makes absolutely no difference. Indeed, domain age resets to 0 with every new registration. What can make a big difference is the number and age of the links pointing to a domain (especially if there is no downtime in transition).

2. How far into the future a domain is registered makes absolutely no difference.

Watch this Matt Cutts video:

YouTube - How much does a domain's age affect its...

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bgmacaw 14 years ago

Originally Posted by PhilipSEO

Indeed, domain age resets to 0 with every new registration.

Sadly, this is a myth too. Google doesn't track this in their algorithms.

They do track downtime (404's and no site found) and site content changes though which will give the impression that the domain age was reset upon registration.

However, you can buy a seemingly 'new' domain, a domain that's been used, dropped and deleted from the ICANN database, that had been previously deindexed for being a 'bad' script site (such as YACG or BANS) or doing something else nefarious. It is almost impossible to get this kind of domain reindexed even with a reinclusion request that points out the domain ownership change. If Google actually tracked registration information they would know that there had been a change, but, they don't seem to know it.
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- Fraggler 14 years ago
  
  Google seems to think it matters if a domain has changed ownership - Requesting reconsideration of your site - Webmaster Tools Help
  
  "In addition, if you recently purchased a domain that you think may have violated our guidelines before you owned it, you can use the reconsideration request form to let us know that you recently acquired the site and that it now adheres to the guidelines." - Google.com
  
  All that matters is that the new site is legit. I don't know how you are so sure they don't track something as simple as date of registration and change of registration. They are a registrar themselves as far as I know. They have access to the data through that. They definetly didn't buy it to take on Godaddy.
  
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  bgmacaw 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Fraggler
  
  Google seems to think it matters if a domain has changed ownership -
  
  It's too bad that they don't follow their own guidelines in their regard. I've found filing reinclusion requests for domains that have been deleted from the ICANN database for over a year and are still being penalized by Google to be an exercise in futility. I've had more success getting transferred domains reincluded this way.
  
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- PhilipSEO 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by bgmacaw
  
  Sadly, this is a myth too. Google doesn't track this in their algorithms.
  
  Nor did I say that Google did; what I said is that domain age makes no difference whatsoever. That said, what are your sources on what Google does not track?
  
  Curiously, PageRank does reset sometimes when there's an ownership change, but it seems that most of the time this does not happen.
  
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  bgmacaw 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by PhilipSEO
  
  That said, what are your sources on what Google does not track?
  
  About 150 or so previously owned domains that purchased as well as a dozen or so 'new' domains that had been penalized (meaning deindexed) in a 'previous life'.
  
  Originally Posted by PhilipSEO
  
  Curiously, PageRank does reset sometimes when there's an ownership change, but it seems that most of the time this does not happen.
  
  This happens when there's a content change, the site is down or parked for an extended period or excessive 404 errors or redirects. I've seen this happen on existing websites where clients get to happy deleting and adding content.
  
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acvipers

14 years ago

Thanks for debunking the myths, a lot of people are having problems with their new sites and afraid to build links because of being sandboxed. There should be no problem on getting links as long as they are not on bad neighborhood.

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JakeRhodes 14 years ago

I believe the real truth behind the "sandbox" myth is that the age of your backlinks has an effect on your rankings. The older your backlinks are, the more weight they are given. Of course if you're buying a brand new domain it's not likely to have any backlinks old or new so it takes awhile for the backlinks you build to "mature" and gain real weight.
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jcepeda 14 years ago

Interesting!
I didn't know that there was a good and bad neighborhood as far as domains go!
I'll have to check where my neighborhood is.
I wonder if I'm on the right side of the tracks! I keep hearing trains go by all the time.
Seriously, I don't think anyone really has any idea how google treats a website. Ranking seems to work for one individual because he did a little dance, while another walked with an open umbrella inside the house, and a third lost his ranking when he kicked a black cat.
As far as I'm concerned, I'll just continue in my merry way, broke, single, and with no prospects in site!
Oh happy life!
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shaggard

14 years ago

I have heard of the "sandbox". However, even though I am new and only have about 20 sites. I have yet to experience this effect. All my sites get indexed in about a week.

My sites hit the second page by week two. Getting on the first page differs mainly on the competition.

I have never bought a used domain name as far as I know.

Just my two cents

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Damien Roche

14 years ago

Could people quote some reliable references to support the above 'facts' about how google operate?

Would be helpful for the rest of us.

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mattalways

14 years ago

I have found that I can rank new domains much quicker than aged domains. Almost like google has already made it a habit to only care about that aged site so much. I also think you're talking expired domains? Well this can be good if you can get them quick and know what you're doing, if not, it will take a lot of time to build that trust up again.

Also, do you actually think Google looks at how long a domain is registered for? I have not heard this before. Do you have any sources I can look at that would suggest this? I register all of mine on a yearly basis, and have some pretty high ranking sites.

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theplanet

14 years ago

Admittedly I don't have proof but I have had a hard time getting my sites to register with Google when they are brand new. I have heard people say sandbox is not real other say its real. Im just saying it has been my experience that its hard to even get indexed for a few months after you buy a domain.

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mattalways

14 years ago

What the **** is sandboxed anyways?

I have promoted over 200 websites, and have never been "sandboxed". If you setup something that isn't a complete piece of junk, get some links to it, within 1 week you're indexed. Within 2 weeks you're ranking, and after that it's just about building on the rankings.

I'm not even sure I'd consider myself a pro as I don't believe anyone can actually call themselves a pro working with a search engines rankings, but I have been doing this for quite some time, and I never know what people are talking about when they say they got sandboxed. Maybe they just didn't get any quality links to their site and Google has no idea you exist?

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robmena

14 years ago

Well from what we have seen in the passed 13 years in our SEO process, having a new domain can be ok and work fine, but at other times it goes unusually slow to get ranks, Aged domains we get from clients never have the problem. Myth sandbox? hmm call it what ya want, but we get high page ranks and know the process, Matt Cutts is the last we would listen too lol jk. As far as registering it for a longer period of time, we have some insight of it and it seems on target and it wont hurt to register for a few more yrs.