Which do you post to first? EzineArticles or your blog?

14 years ago

Blog first, then Ezine. I prefer it that way as I want my blog to be the authority for the content, not Ezine. Ezine is there mainly to bring in some extra traffic and give me backlinks. I always post the exact article to Ezine after posting to my blog with no changes. Again, it really depends on what you are trying to achieve - drive traffic through Ezine or drive traffic through your own blog or money site?

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r3bb

14 years ago

Originally Posted by adesbarats

Blog first, then Ezine. I prefer it that way as I want my blog to be the authority for the content, not Ezine. Ezine is there mainly to bring in some extra traffic and give me backlinks. I always post the exact article to Ezine after posting to my blog with no changes. Again, it really depends on what you are trying to achieve - drive traffic through Ezine or drive traffic through your own blog or money site?

Makes good sense, but do you think it'd be even better to not post the same content at all on your blog? That way the Ezine backlink will count for a lot more (in theory).

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jasonl70

14 years ago

google shouldn't devalue that link..

based on my readings of googles patents, here's what could happen:

when google get's a 'bucket' of pages to show on the first X page(s), they will look to see if any of those sites link to each other. If one site is being linked to from another site, they may re-order the results so that the site being pointed to is above the site that points to it.

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acvipers

14 years ago

My blog of course, the link on my ezine articles are pointing on my blog and it is the reason why my blog shows first before the articles that I have submitted over ezine.

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donakluttz

14 years ago

I get one main article posted on my website and them multiple variations (4 to 5) posted in ezinesarticles, free blogs and PR websites.

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r3bb

14 years ago

Isn't that a risk of being banned by Ezinearticles? What if the same reader reads several different variations of your article and figures out what's going on?

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Trent Brownrigg

14 years ago

Usually I write articles specifically for submitting to Ezinearticles and other directories, so I don't post them to any of my own sites. However, when I do it the other way then I always post it to my own site first.

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specopkirbs

14 years ago

blog first (always) that way it gives your site time to get indexed and crawled so hopefully it wont be outranked by your ezine article.

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jrod11

14 years ago

You should rewrite your article for ezine, but posting your better one on your blog.

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r3bb 14 years ago

Lots of different advice being thrown out in this thread...

Some of you post the same article to both, some post different articles to both, and some of you only post articles to Ezine.

We need to come up with some sort of consensus on what works best.
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Ernie Lo

14 years ago

Nope not necessary.

You can have the SAME article on your blog and EZA.

The time it takes to rewrite your article for EZA you could of written a fresh new article for your blog.

Originally Posted by jrod11

You should rewrite your article for ezine, but posting your better one on your blog.

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r3bb

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo

Nope not necessary.

You can have the SAME article on your blog and EZA.

The time it takes to rewrite your article for EZA you could of written a fresh new article for your blog.

This is great if it's true, but wouldn't Google see that as dupe content and devalue the backlink from EZA as a result?

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Ernie Lo

14 years ago

Nope Google will index both pages yours and EZA's...of course whichever article you post first will have more "value or "weight" than the other one but you still get 2 backlinks in the end both worth "something".

Originally Posted by r3bb

This is great if it's true, but wouldn't Google see that as dupe content and devalue the backlink from EZA as a result?

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r3bb

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo

Nope Google will index both pages yours and EZA's...of course whichever article you post first will have more "value or "weight" than the other one but you still get 2 backlinks in the end both worth "something".

Right, so if you can get Google to think that both articles are different and unique, and give full value to both backlinks, wouldn't it be better in that case to post different articles to your blog and EZA?

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jasonl70

14 years ago

Originally Posted by r3bb

This is great if it's true, but wouldn't Google see that as dupe content and devalue the backlink from EZA as a result?

where are you getting the idea that google devalues links in this scenerio? The usual fear with dup content is simply one get's displayed the other doesn't (which is debatable).

In this case, based on googles ACTUAL patents regarding interlinking of sites within serps, the only site in fear of not being diplayed should be EA (most likley outcome: the article source (you) will be bumped up over EA).

Also, think about this... EA's articles are meant to be picked up and published elswhere. So now we have the potential of numerous sites posting your article - ie, dup content all over the place..

I wouldn't spend this amount of time sweating it (analysis paralysis), when you can just test and see what happens. Your future does not hinge on one page of content / one link

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r3bb

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jasonl70

where are you getting the idea that google devalues links in this scenerio? The usual fear with dup content is simply one get's displayed the other doesn't (which is debatable).

In this case, based on googles ACTUAL patents regarding interlinking of sites within serps, the only site in fear of not being diplayed should be EA (most likley outcome: the article source (you) will be bumped up over EA).

Also, think about this... EA's articles are meant to be picked up and published elswhere. So now we have the potential of numerous sites posting your article - ie, dup content all over the place..

I wouldn't spend this amount of time sweating it (analysis paralysis), when you can just test and see what happens. Your future does not hinge on one page of content / one link

I see your point about EZA articles getting picked up and recycled all over the web. So let's say I post an article on EZA and 50 blogs republish it. You don't think Google will devalue the backlinks from those 50 blogs? I have read that Google will do just that, but as I think about it, I don't see how that would make much sense. After all, you could really sabotage your competitors if all you ever did was pick up their content and republish it across a vast blog network.

I also agree with you about spending time worrying about such a minor detail. I'm just an optimization freak and I want every tactic I employ to be employed optimally. I'm sure many of you can relate

I figured it would be worth a shot bringing up this question here in case this conversation has already been had and a consensus has already been reached. I spent about 10 minutes searching the forums and couldn't find anything. But finding anything with the search function in these forums is about as hard as finding a Muslim woman without a shawl in Wal-Mart.

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Ernie Lo

14 years ago

Yes I'm not saying duplicate content is better than having a unique article for your blog and a unique article for EZA....but when its better to post articles on your blog first over EZA, why would you waste your time rewriting an article for EZA when you could spend that time making a new unique article for your own blog?

Originally Posted by r3bb

Right, so if you can get Google to think that both articles are different and unique, and give full value to both backlinks, wouldn't it be better in that case to post different articles to your blog and EZA?

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r3bb

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo

Yes I'm not saying duplicate content is better than having a unique article for your blog and a unique article for EZA....but when its better to post articles on your blog first over EZA, why would you waste your time rewriting an article for EZA when you could spend that time making a new unique article for your own blog?

Well I guess the question is this: How much is a backlink from EZA worth if it's dupe content vs. if it's unique content? I doubt anyone has the answer to this but if someone did, it would certainly help settle the debate.

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Goatboy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by r3bb

Well I guess the question is this: How much is a backlink from EZA worth if it's dupe content vs. if it's unique content? I doubt anyone has the answer to this but if someone did, it would certainly help settle the debate.

Last January I submitted a bulk hit of about 25 to 30 acrticles to EZA. All had appeared on my blog first, and none of them were spun. The blog's ranking jumped from 8th page to 1st and 2nd page. So far, I have several instances where one of the articles is indexed both on my blog and on EZA and both links show up on Google Webmasters tools.

Further, I have submitted articles to other directories, had them picked up by other bloggers and subsequently republished, and some of those backlinks have shown up in Webmaster tools giving me a 3 link advantage. (Blog, directory, 2nd blog).

My own theory is that Google expects an important article to be published many times because people will want to copy it. If you think about it, when a reporter files a story with the API, it is reprinted all across the country and no one spins the article before it is reprinted.

Important things are talked about and duplicated, non-important ones are not. I think Google expects content from important information to be picked up verbatim.

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r3bb

14 years ago

How far in advance do you think it's necessary to post a new article to your website before posting it to EzineArticles?

In theory, it should be long enough for Google to give your blog credit for the original article. So is there a way to tell when Google has done that?

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James Hussey

14 years ago

I would make sure Google has sent their bots to your site first - using WP this is easy enough to tell in the Wassup plugin, but this is just a thought. I have actually never considered using my own content that way...this is an incredibly interesting idea, since it would cut down on the writing time.

I use UAW, SEOLV, ArticleRanks and other tools to mass-distribute unique/spun versions of my articles, but never have used EZA to re-post my own content.

Heck, why stop there? Wait for EZA to publish it so they don't see it anywhere else but your blog, then take your same content and publish it at Scribd and other doc sharing sites.

That's my plan from now on - thanks for posing the question!

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r3bb

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JamestheJust on Elance

I would make sure Google has sent their bots to your site first - using WP this is easy enough to tell in the Wassup plugin, but this is just a thought. I have actually never considered using my own content that way...this is an incredibly interesting idea, since it would cut down on the writing time.

I use UAW, SEOLV, ArticleRanks and other tools to mass-distribute unique/spun versions of my articles, but never have used EZA to re-post my own content.

Heck, why stop there? Wait for EZA to publish it so they don't see it anywhere else but your blog, then take your same content and publish it at Scribd and other doc sharing sites.

That's my plan from now on - thanks for posing the question!

Thanks for the tip about the Wassup plugin. I wasn't aware of that but I read your post and just installed it. I'm going to use that to monitor when Google crawls my page, because I want to be sure Google gives my blog credit for posting the article originally.

The only worry I have is whether it's actually better to to let Google see the article on EZA first, because then the backlink would seem to count for more points.

On the other hand, does it even matter where Google sees it first as long as the EZA article contains a backlink to the original article on your blog?

These are questions nobody may know the answer to, but it would be great if we could somehow find out.

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spiny

14 years ago

Submit your sites to social networks. They usually get picked up by SEs very quickly.

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Ernie Lo 14 years ago

There is NO penalty. And competing pages isnt such a bad problem to have....having 2 results in the SERPS compared to 1? I wouldnt be too upset with that as long as the one on your blog is higher of course.

Originally Posted by StupidCupid

I post different articles in my blog and ezine. This is to avoid penalty and to avoid my pages competing each other on google..
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Goatboy

14 years ago

Blog first, then EZA.

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fortony

14 years ago

Once you write an article, it should be relatively fast and easy to create a another copy or two of it. Not sure of the whole duplicate content argument, but I think have different articles linking to your blog must help.

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