Should I buy SENuke or an article distribution service for SEO?

I'm trying out the article distribution service from article pool - it costs $9 per article for 500 article directories. It looks fairly professional - as you mentioned they use their own accounts but it does allow you to spin your articles (without which in my experience you seem to get no benefit).

I'm doing a rough test directed at one page on one of my sites that ranks 14 for a fairly competitive phrase. I've submitted a single spun article using the service on 26 May, one link with anchor text directed to the page in the body and one link to the domain.

It's so far jumped up 3 places to 11 for my targeted keyword, I haven't done any other link building to that page. The service says allow one month in their experience for any SEO benefit, so I'll see how it goes.

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dotslash

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dotslash

I'm trying out the article distribution service from article pool - it costs $9 per article for 500 article directories. It looks fairly professional - as you mentioned they use their own accounts but it does allow you to spin your articles (without which in my experience you seem to get no benefit).

I'm doing a rough test directed at one page on one of my sites that ranks 14 for a fairly competitive phrase. I've submitted a single spun article using the service on 26 May, one link with anchor text directed to the page in the body and one link to the domain.

It's so far jumped up 3 places to 11 for my targeted keyword, I haven't done any other link building to that page. The service says allow one month in their experience for any SEO benefit, so I'll see how it goes.

Neil

Just in case anybody is interested, my keyword has jumped another 3 places to number 8 in the above example. Which has made me a sale from that page so I got my $9 back

It's not quick but seems to work slowly.

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Rocketguy 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Pat Jackson

Sorry but this is just incorrect.

Google is a robot. They don't understand "quality", all they understand is relevance.

Good to see people on here who understand how it works. Many times I see so much misinformation spread around it is scary.
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- VedoMedia 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Rocketguy
  
  Good to see people on here who understand how it works. Many times I see so much misinformation spread around it is scary.
  
  Google doesn't understand quality? Are you kidding me? Ever hear of the "Quality Score" Cmon people don't believe everything you hear on these forums...
  
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WealthWithin

14 years ago

'Quality' is a subjective matter.

I have written 700 word articles on how to solve enterprise business problems which has earned me nothing, while 250 work re-hashes on kitchen items earn me few cents a day.

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Chris Koltai

14 years ago

SEnuke is great for link variety. It takes care of bookmarking, articles, web 2.0, profiles, and RSS submission, all of which are kind of irritating to do. The problem is, if you're only getting links from the sites offered inside SEnuke, it gets pretty easy to spot the footprint. Same with competing services like EVO II. It's a great piece of software, but I wouldn't count on it as my primary source of backlinks for any sites that I plan on keeping long term. It's good for a quick spike of backlinks, and great for getting new sites rolling with bookmarking and RSS.

Unique Article Wizard doesn't give you much variety as far as the type of links, since they're all article directories or low PR blogs, but where it does excel is in the realm of link velocity and distribution across multiple IPs. UAW is great for keeping the heat off of your sites that use low volume, high PR linking services to build rank - think Linkvana, Backlink Solutions, Build My Rank etc. With the volume of links you receive daily from a couple of articles in UAW, the 2-4 high PR links that drip out daily just blend right in.

If you have the money for both, get them, especially if you run more than one site. If you can't afford that, I'd suggest getting UAW ($67) and Build My Rank ($59).

Oh, and this is all with the caveat that I'm assuming you mean the pro version of SEnuke ($127) as opposed to the lite version ($67). The lite version is not worth getting IMO.

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Bubba6590

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Koltai

SEnuke is great for link variety. It takes care of bookmarking, articles, web 2.0, profiles, and RSS submission, all of which are kind of irritating to do. The problem is, if you're only getting links from the sites offered inside SEnuke, it gets pretty easy to spot the footprint. Same with competing services like EVO II. It's a great piece of software, but I wouldn't count on it as my primary source of backlinks for any sites that I plan on keeping long term. It's good for a quick spike of backlinks, and great for getting new sites rolling with bookmarking and RSS.

Unique Article Wizard doesn't give you much variety as far as the type of links, since they're all article directories or low PR blogs, but where it does excel is in the realm of link velocity and distribution across multiple IPs. UAW is great for keeping the heat off of your sites that use low volume, high PR linking services to build rank - think Linkvana, Backlink Solutions, Build My Rank etc. With the volume of links you receive daily from a couple of articles in UAW, the 2-4 high PR links that drip out daily just blend right in.

If you have the money for both, get them, especially if you run more than one site. If you can't afford that, I'd suggest getting UAW ($67) and Build My Rank ($59).

Oh, and this is all with the caveat that I'm assuming you mean the pro version of SEnuke ($127) as opposed to the lite version ($67). The lite version is not worth getting IMO.

Im a complete newbie and decided to try out SEnuke which was recommend in one the the war room free offers. For a newbie i do not recommend this, it was very confusing and the help videos were not clear. For $127 a month and there is several other services you have to sign on for such as captcha service and best article spinner. Before you know it your in for $200 a month. Now for someone that knows what there doing and setting up the services with ease i believe this is a hands down great program but i would not recommend this for a newbie.

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keyaziz 14 years ago

SENuke have a 7 day trial so why not try it out first before committing?
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Chris Koltai

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Bubba6590

Im a complete newbie and decided to try out SEnuke which was recommend in one the the war room free offers. For a newbie i do not recommend this, it was very confusing and the help videos were not clear. For $127 a month and there is several other services you have to sign on for such as captcha service and best article spinner. Before you know it your in for $200 a month. Now for someone that knows what there doing and setting up the services with ease i believe this is a hands down great program but i would not recommend this for a newbie.

Yeah, it's not really aimed at newbies, but a newbie with a passion for learning SEO and a decent understanding of technology could make it work. I know because that was me when I started using it :p

The 3rd-party captcha service is cheap as can be. $7 for a thousand captchas shouldn't be running out very quickly, and last time I checked (admittedly, a couple of months ago) their free captcha breaking service was still working, if a bit spotty at times. Even if you sat at your computer and entered the captchas manually (like I had to do before they introduced captcha breaking) it's still well worth the money in terms of the time it saves you.

TheBestSpinner is purely optional. It's a 3rd party tool that Areeb felt was good enough to both recommend and integrate into SEnuke. You can still spin articles by hand, and in all honesty, articles spun by hand will be more likely to pass manual review by site moderators, which is a good thing if you want your links to stick around. If you do spend the $77 yearly membership for TBS, you get one click spinning.

SEnuke is not a magical link conjuring tool, it still requires work. That really shouldn't be much of a shock given that we're in a business where you can pretty much write your own paycheck simply by the consistency and quality of the work you put in as compared to your competitors. Any one of the tools in this thread combined with a website and an affiliate link should be enough to earn double your monthly fees back.

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VedoMedia

14 years ago

Senuke is easy to use, even for newbies.

1. There are tutorials online. Video and pdf format.

2. Installation and options are logical and pretty self explanatory.

3. Theres no harm in fiddling around with it and testing it out since theres a free trail.

4. Newbies will be newbies.

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VedoMedia

14 years ago

9 bucks per 500 is way to expensive. I wouldn't suggest it. Go out and buy a membership and blast away for 50 bucks or whatever it is for that month. You can go to first place in that month easily, imagine how many blasts you can make! 9 bucks is too expensive, go with a membership site!

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dotslash

14 years ago

Originally Posted by VedoMedia

9 bucks per 500 is way to expensive. I wouldn't suggest it. Go out and buy a membership and blast away for 50 bucks or whatever it is for that month. You can go to first place in that month easily, imagine how many blasts you can make! 9 bucks is too expensive, go with a membership site!

I'm already in several of the membership sites as well, I often find the results are poor or non-existent despite blasting out to many sites. I don't mind paying for things that work because they pay for themselves.

Anyway it's just my little test, just sharing my results.

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KWeist

14 years ago

I tried the 7 day trial and let it auto bill me after the trial ended.

Unfortunately I could no longer login after the trial ended. It is very difficult to get support when your login does not work because you have to login to submit a ticket. I tried the reset password on the membership page but I never received the emails with my new password (they did not get caught in the spam folder either).

I eventually found an email address and contacted them that way. And I did receive a reply from Joe stating that there was nothing wrong with my account so they reset the password.

I was able to log into the software. But when I tried to run the Social Bookmarking module I got an error "Your SENuke license is not active! Please contact the Helpdesk by logging into ....". The following day I could not even log in, I now get "Unable to validate license...." when I try to login.

I can no longer get a response by email and I need to get the software working. I tried signing up with the SENuke forum but I did not receive the activation email…..

Any suggestions?

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VedoMedia

14 years ago

Originally Posted by KWeist

I tried the 7 day trial and let it auto bill me after the trial ended.

Unfortunately I could no longer login after the trial ended. It is very difficult to get support when your login does not work because you have to login to submit a ticket. I tried the reset password on the membership page but I never received the emails with my new password (they did not get caught in the spam folder either).

I eventually found an email address and contacted them that way. And I did receive a reply from Joe stating that there was nothing wrong with my account so they reset the password.

I was able to log into the software. But when I tried to run the Social Bookmarking module I got an error "Your SENuke license is not active! Please contact the Helpdesk by logging into ....". The following day I could not even log in, I now get "Unable to validate license...." when I try to login.

I can no longer get a response by email and I need to get the software working. I tried signing up with the SENuke forum but I did not receive the activation email.....

Any suggestions?

Maybe you should have read over the terms on what your paying for more carefully. They clearly stated you will be billed after your trial.

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KWeist

14 years ago

I let them auto bill me because I wanted to continue using the software.

The problem is the software no longer works and I can not get support.

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VedoMedia

14 years ago

I would file a dispute with paypal, or your credit card company and get a chargeback.

Thats assuming you tried everything in hopes to contact them.

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Aira Bongco

14 years ago

If you are going for article distribution, then I highly recommend going with UAW or other distributing softwares like Magic Article Submitter. SENuke only have a few article directories compared to these two. But UAW works better than Magic Article Submitter in my opinion.

However, SENuke is great for automating other aspects of your promotion like pinging, rss submissions and social bookmarking. I use it mostly for these activities.

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VedoMedia

14 years ago

Originally Posted by airabongco

If you are going for article distribution, then I highly recommend going with UAW or other distributing softwares like Magic Article Submitter. SENuke only have a few article directories compared to these two. But UAW works better than Magic Article Submitter in my opinion.

However, SENuke is great for automating other aspects of your promotion like pinging, rss submissions and social bookmarking. I use it mostly for these activities.

Yea but UAW is a monthly subscription. It can get expensive don't you think? Just my 2 cents.

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Aira Bongco 14 years ago

Originally Posted by VedoMedia

Yea but UAW is a monthly subscription. It can get expensive don't you think? Just my 2 cents.

You're right. But the guy wants an opinion on the matter while citing UAW and SENuke in his post. So I relayed my experience and recommendation.

Of course, there is a cheaper option. But the great thing about SENuke and UAW is that they get updated all the time which means you can use the tool for years. Also, if you use it right, you can get your money back from your marketing campaign. Don't you think?
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arjuna79

13 years ago

I choose Senuke, of course

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