$100 per day in Adsense.. slapped

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A few weeks ago, I asked in the Warrior Forum, I was someone making more than $100 per day in Adsense.

I was... and after making that amount I had a visit from Google in a visual inspection and SLAPPED....

all my minisites are gone.... only the real sites with some type of authority.

Overall I'm a bit sad... I make over 10K per month... and adsense was a nice bonus. I will still make 1K per month but it is pretty annoying to see your hard work gone.

Lessons learned:

Build Authority

If you are going to pay for 20 articles for a site... + 20 articles for link building... mmm why not make an Ebook Report and put it out there in Clickbank?

Don't rely in Google...

Adsense sounds lovely, but don't forget the FOOTPRINT... this means: google will always know your network.

Rely more in passive income that doesn't rely in ranking (I know this sounds weird)... but instead work on building list, membership sites or selling products.

It is funny... this happen when I was in Fiji in a 5 starts hotel with my 2 kids and my wife. At the same time that I lost almost 12K per year in adsense based on 1 decision from 1 Google Engineer... I made the same scoring a few deals doing SEO consulting.

So EXPAND....

To Google : Any small defeat is a push to take me higher.
Lesson learned: There is so much money to make out there...

Bye bye Adsense

Hello Much more money in other type of networks

Warriors: don't let a slap take you down: That's what THEY WANT.

Instead build more, build smarter, build and grow your business, your family, your empire.
#search engine optimization #$100 #adsense #day #slapped
  • I'm sorry to hear that... Although... 12k per year is not right is it?

    It must be 36k per year?

    I mean... $100 per day is around $3.000 per month, which is $36.000 per year.

    $10.000 per month, and adsense which is $3.000 is a nice... bonus? It's a lot of money dude!
  • Ah yes... even more depressing... I lost 2K per month... but I guess.. you can't "loose" the money you haven't made yet.
  • What made your better sites "authority sites" was it mainly due to having more content/pages?
  • Hey Mate

    Mainly is was sites that

    a) have been longer
    b) update daily
    c) have been ranked 1st for solid keywords ... not long term keywords
    d) big sites. over 200+ pages.
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  • What exactly do you mean ...


    Delisted? Adsense no longer served? What?
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    • Yes. Lost all type of ranking....
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  • I have yet to see this problem with mine as I keep updating them.
  • With that being said, I am new to the world of marketing. Is adsense a good idea for a beginner like me?
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    • If you are new to making money online, then adsense might be worth a try. You make money when they click on an add on your site. Depending on the type of sites, what you earn per clicks will vary. The ads have to be targeted with what you site is talking about to get the clicks. Basically you need articles, best if unique content, and then you place ads along the article content on your web site.

      If you earn little money per clicks per niche site, then adsense is only profitable by building lots of sites in different niches, unless you can find niche site that gets lots of traffic with very little competition for a top 10 rank, that pays good per clicks. Google slap sites as they want without giving any explanation. They just direct you to their webmaster guidelines to figure out yourself why they slapped you.

      The best way to survive online is to run a stable business by building a list of targeted prospects in your niche or number of niches. Best not to sell to them upfront and spend time building a relationship with your list(s). If you can achieve that, then they will buy from you whenever you offer something of value to them.
    • Yes, I'd HIGHLY recommend using revenue sharing/web 2.0 properties.....others won't agree with me, however, I have never had that issue.

      I have one, right now, that pays me 90% revenue share, consistently, each month AND it has great search engine authority (that grows with each day).

      Building your own sites is a thing of the past....it will become harder and harder for your own sites to rank, now that there is the emergence of these revenue share sites gobbling up tons and tons of traffic.
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  • You didn't mention if your Adsense account was banned. Were your sites deindex, adsense banned? or both?

    Your authority sites use Adsense?
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    • I've been in Adsense for years, and never made anything more than a few dollars.

      I also didn't like the way that Google has control, so I have now ditched Adsense completely.

      Another worrying facctor is that Ezinearticles is putting so many conditions on article submission that I've ditched them also.

      I'm honest, the only reason I wrote articles was to get the backlinks.

      Cheers
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    • My authority sites use adsense... yes.... but not as the only way to monetize

      The sites where deindexed...
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  • I thought everyone wrote articles for the backlinks. At least articles you end up submitting to ezinearticles, etc.
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    • I know that's what everyone does, but EZA is getting a bit too full of itself.
      They now expect the articles to contain quality information, and the links to go back to sites with quality content on them, so you can't link directly to an affiliate sales page, or even to your own sales page, if that's all your site is. i.e. you're only writing the article to get a sale.

      All in all, too many rules at EZA for me - I now only submit to other directories.
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    • That's just one of the benefits. Great articles that are resources get spread all over the place funneling back reputation points.
  • How do you know you had a visual inspection? What was the referrer/Agent ID so we can look out for it?

    Sites have been getting 'slapped' left right and centre the last few weeks. It didn't matter if they were large sites, small sites, new sites, old sites. Are you sure it isn't just this?
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    • I have to get back to you with that data...

      I have no idea if this is happening to more people.., the only thing that I know is that the sites that DIDN'T have adsense are all healthy....
  • Holy cow... I should sleep more...

    my authority sites are perfect. No banned. No slapped.
  • Here is the deal. Goggle has always said that the sites have to have value for the surfer. 1 page wonders not going to do it anymore.Also make sure there is a privacy policy in place
  • Ranking Hero

    How big were your mini sites?

    Could you show us an example of what one would look like?

    I have a few sites that have 15 - 50 pages. I wonder if they would be considered mini sites.
  • As long as you use Adsense or webmaster tools, you will always provide an easy footprint for Google to identidy all your best performing sites. A Google employee who works for the Adsense team once told me that the what is MFA is very ill-defined and changes all the time at Google's whim.

    It was nearly 2 years to the date when Google started de-indexing my sites en masse and my revenue have yet to make a meaningful recovery. At its worse, they were de-indexing sites indiscriminately e.g. sites with completely unique content such as dissertations and theses. Even now, I have a dedicated server that I cannot use for new sites but I am keeping it to host mysql databases for sites on other servers.
  • may be because of mayday update
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    • Yeah, I totally agree. Strange that no one has mentioned that yet....it takes a little more juice to stay up there on the first page, but it CAN be done if you know what you're doin.
  • Rankinghero... sorry to hear that. That is not nice of them.
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    • lol

      Thanks... (I guess)

      that is the most extrange comment of the day. It's similar to what my 4 year old boy will say... "is that people goodies or baddies? "
  • Perhaps it was just the may update, I've read a lot of people experiencing the same thing, myself included.

    I don't think you even had a visual inspection as if that were the case they would be more likely to ban your account altogether instead of just "slapping you" as it were.
  • How do you know you had a manual inspection?

    Seems to me if you did then Goog would have de-indexed you but above it sounds like you just lost your rankings.

    Lee
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    • There are some pretty good replies in this thread.
      Hate to see a warrior taken down, wish you good luck.

      My standpoint has always been to err on the side of caution.
      Google has told people for years what they want. You can
      either listen or not. You can keep on following and doing, and
      this forum will continue to fill with these stories.

      A MFA adsense site may be ill-defined because they have no need
      to define one. BUT....they sure have a definition for a decent site.

      Bad performing sites don't get banned. (performing what?)
      Non-decent sites get the slap down.

      Paul
  • My God that's awful!
    Did they not even give you the chance to change things on your site that they didn't like?
  • Even after reading everything here, I'm not sure what happened? Were you doing well with Adsense with Google search engine traffic? Then Google took away your good rankings, and you aren't earning now?

    Are you sure you didn't just move down in the rankings? Maybe you had some links coming from one source and they went down, or they decided those links didn't matter? Something like that?
  • again many people have express their expertrate advice on the issue of adsense
    and their words have made me jiltry because am a newbie when it comes to adsense
    money making system but if l may ask.... l used free articles on my blogs and also keep bio /resource box of the original articles owner intact, with this l got low click which result into few dollars but not satisfy.

    since l have been in this kind of attitude for a few period of time have never got slap
    by google but l was told that, getting slapped is the attitude of google.

    walter gane
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    • Biggest myth about google. That somehow they are just going around de-indexing,
      banning, slapping, etc. for no reason. The myth is propagated by the numerous
      threads started here, "Google banned me for no reason...."

      A hard to find reason does not mean a reason does not exist. Most of the time, however,
      it's staring you in the face.

      Paul
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  • My niche site also been slap...My income drop > 80%
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    • What quantity of pages would be considered a mini site? 1-15?

      What quantity is acceptable by the Goog? 50+?

      How many words or how much content is needed on a page to be considered worthy?

      Thanks!
  • did you try doing site:bluewidgetwhatever.com of your site on Google?

    If it is still there, then it is not de-indexed.
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    • Sorry, I don't understand, what did you do exactly for them to ban your account?

      Cheers!

      ISEO
  • I too had a network taken out, I was about 1/2 what you were making a day but scaling and growing nicely.

    Then slap, beginning of this month I lost everything, all my rankings and all my Adsense.

    I'm gonna continue to build them out, they aren't deindexed I just lost all my rankings. I think it was a result of the MayDay update, which I think affected exact match domains immediate rankings.
  • I'm confused about the "page" terminology that gets used sometimes. If I have a WP blog that has 150+ posts (but, say, only 4/5 pages), am I liable to not get any love from Google due to lack of "pages"?

    My blogs with many "posts" seem to do OK so I'm not overly worried - until I hear about people losing SERPs positions etc. due to too few "pages"!? - Or do they merely mean "posts" when saying "pages"?
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    • Pages and posts in WordPress are web pages.
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  • The folks at Google most likely read and maybe even post here. So one thing to keep in mind is that whenever there are specific link schemes developed and discussed in forums in about 6 months lead time Google may take them out with an algo change. I used to track some of the 30 day challenge peoples' sites. Some of their sites were rocking in the serps for awhile and then one day when I'd check on them they would be nowhere in the top 100. I think their common back link patterns may have set up a red flag and made them pretty easy to take out programatically.
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    • This is very worrying. Are you saying that those with the '30day challenge' sites are somehow lacking or not created properly? Please explian what you mean by this as you are talking about 'common backlink patterns' setting up a red flage? Sounds like the 'common' is not a good thing, if so , then what is? Many thanks in advance
  • Sorry to hear this, but you know ... you could just try a little harder with your sites. Add more content and build more links back to them and they'll probably all come up and start earning you more than they were before.

    It doesn't sound like you were banned from Adsense or de-indexed so you still have your sites.

    Lisa
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    • Hello first of all i am sorry i am confused:confused: about ur talking in adsense because i am a new guy can anybody broad minded people explain me or any e-book available step by step guide to earn money through adsense please send me link or send me text file containing guide to start earn in adsense thanks by Bill
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  • The Mayday algo update slapped minisites/microsites.... If you have quality content and some quality links coming to your minisites they will be o.k or over time will do ok.. ,,, if your relying on article links and easy quick ranking from "exact domain name with keyword" it is now a thing of the past.. I have my theory's of what they did if anyone want to hear if not I wont bother writing them..

    Read this from a Google Engineer, read second to last paragraph..

    Google's Maile Ohye Morning Keynote - SES Toronto - Online Marketing Blog
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    • So instead of blaming for the past methods are not working for currect google algo. What's your take for the best solutions for current algo?
      Maybe if you wish to asnwer, what kind of sites that will stay for long?
      What backlinking strategies that will work now?
      How should we write the contents?
      Maybe those are the questions that need answers and people will love to hear that too.
    • It doesn't effect just mini-sites. There have been a wide range of sites affected. They can't program their algorithm to "target mini-sites".

      Also, my exact match domains haven't budged and article links are still worthwhile.
    • That's a great article you posted....lots of good information from the horses mouth so to speak.

      It does look like quality content including video and images along with link quality is now the formula to rank well in Google, not a huge difference to what they were using before for ranking but a subtle difference that has huge consequences.
    • I have to wonder if Maile Ohye has ever taken a look at thefind.com. Or maybe nextag.com. Or perhaps bizrate.com. I'd guess not because they're nothing more than scrapper sites with a "bunch of keywords on a page" yet they rank quite well for many long tail terms.
    • What is a "mini/microsite"? I have a wordpress blog with 20 posts.. is it about the size, or the linking. The article says something about it being confusing to users.. and lack of content.
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  • Adsense Sucks , I have a site that i have put adsense on , it gets a minimum of 100,000 Impression a day and guess how much it ears /day ? No more than $10 , isn't funny?
    and we once had a webhosting review site , i know that google charges a Minimum $3 CPC for Ads that were on our site, and we were not getting more than 12 cent per click
  • But those sites are easy targets. If you see one of them on the front page you can overtake them with little effort.

    Most of the ecommerce sites do no promotion on their product pages and they just get a boost from internal links on an authority site. Google appears to be rewarding those who sites are really about the long tail. A quality mini-site will still do well.
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    • Have you tried to take on these "easy targets" recently, like in the past 3 weeks or so? These sites, along with big retailers, are being given a boost on tons of long tail terms to the detriment of smaller affiliate sites and online retailers. I suspect the 'secret sauce' when it comes to Mayday is that a relatively small number of authority sites have been green lighted to rank for a wide range of long tail terms. You can still get page one but you're going to be #8-10 where 3 months ago you would have been #1-3.

      It kinda sucks for us but it makes sense to send someone to Target or Overstock rather than Joe Nobody's dropship or affiliate site. And, if you're a Google employee who has part of their investment portfolio in a VC firm financing thefind.com, bizrate.com or the like, it makes sense to give them an advantage too. Plus, it has the advantage of being relatively easy to implement.
  • Hi rankinghero,

    It is always better to depend on your list so you do not have anything to do with Google. That way, you do not depend on Adsense or SEO. With a list, you will keep on making money.

    This is not new actually. This happens all the time. Better be ready and have other sources of income so you will not be completely shocked.

    Aira
  • Google has updated their search algorithm, I wonder if that had something to do with your search results ranking changing
  • Yes they turned up the authority dial,,, there serp's are sucking.. BING may have future yet
  • But they can target what 99% of mini sites do not have,, authority and quality links coming to them.

    Read this article:
    Google's Maile Ohye Morning Keynote - SES Toronto - Online Marketing Blog


    Someone asked what work's in an above post.. I will give the short answer for now.. Find a medium competition niche with lots of traffic.. no more that 3-4 million results.. build a site with about 30-40 pages,,, put most of the links on homepage to your articles do not bury them at all. Use all good practice onsite seo... get the site up... add a couple of authority links to it.. and let it sit for about 2-3 months. Then start building links to it from all the sources you can think of,, keep the super spammy links away... Do not build them too fast in the beginning, make it look natural.. After about a year you will see what you have, after about 2 years you will really know.. This works,,,, once you find a niche that really does well make another site in same niche with same content rewritten to pass copyscape but make the site look different and unique.. them bam you got another money maker, repeat, repeat etc.

    One other thing make sites that LOOK good, spend some money on nice headers add pics etc.. People tend to stay on site and click more when the site looks good. And use writers that know perfect English and write in PERFECT english, dont use crap content.

    This is for long term money... short term quick money stuff always fails sooner or later.

    Hope this made sense I am off to bed...
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    • What I don't see mentioned in this thread is whether the mini sites were product based and if they had brand names in the domain name. I had around 80 of these and had just cracked $700 last month, but will be lucky to do $100 this month.

      Funny thing is, when I check search comp with Market Samurai, many of the sites in the first ten positions for these keywords have ZERO backlinks to the page!

      I also just checked page one in broad match in google for 20 of these keywords at random and out of all 200 sites, only FIVE had adsense on them at all!

      Someone mentioned the proliferation of store type sites that have taken the place of the xfactor type sites and wondered if google was keying on store type words like "buy now" or "add to cart". I have worked in a few sites with html amazon links that include those words so we will see what happens.

      It is as though these mini sites are assessed a penalty they cannot overcome no matter how many backlinks they have. This may sound crazy, but I am beginning to wonder if the penalty is the existence of adsense ads on the page! As a test I have removed adsense from five sites and just have an amazon link at the top.

      I am using UAW to post a couple articles for all my sites each day and will keep that up so there is equality among them all as far as new backlinks go. It will be interesting to see which group moves up, the plain xfactors, the xfactor with buy now links or the no adsense sites.
    • Nonsense. 'Real' sites that have importance or go viral get links in spurts, naturally. Many times I've shown people here sites that got thousands and thousands of links very quickly, such as Move Your Money (PR6 with 34K links in 6 months time), IE6 Funeral (PR6 with 7K links in 4 months time) and There I Fixed It (PR6 and 960K links in less than a year).

      In fact, I'd venture to say that you look less natural if you go slow and that you are simply self-penalizing yourself. If you don't value your site(s), why would anybody else?

      YouTube - Billy Crystal - You Look Marvelous (1985)
      Your site looks mahvelous, absolutely mahvelous.
  • You can point all the quality links you want to a new site, most are not doing this.

    Just stated what has worked for me over and over,, been doing this for a couple of days now.. Not a eBook poser by any means.
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    • A couple of days and you're giving out advice like it's gold?
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  • I would like to know the same since many here have followed XFactor. It would also be nice to here from John- XFactor on his take of this subject.
  • I still see heaps of crappy sites on page 1 of Google. I would rather the small ****ty sites there, instead of the BIG crappy sites.
  • Adsense is never a dependable income to reply on.
    The first five months of this year was quite good. This month its way down. (I actually noticed a tailing down bout the second half of last month.)
    The CPC is less than half what it was the previous months of the year.
    I doubt I'm the only one this has happened to.
    And quite apart from that which has already been said, about losing rankings or sites being dropped altogether.
  • I'm a little curious... mind telling us how many mini sites you had and if you used one Asense id on all of them?
  • I have a couple of niche sites which are not very big, but I try to put quality content on them, and update them every now and then or adding another page/post to them. I also have done some personal link building (writing to other webmasters for link exchanges etc.) and it seems to work so far. I intend to keep going with adding quality content and manual link building. Both sites are on page 1 for the major search term at this point in time. I have not (yet?) had any issues with the sites.
  • Not advise just suggestions, this stuff is what pays my bills so I am always testing things to see what works and does not.
  • I'm sorry to hear about your story. I guess, what you have to do now is to get back on your feet again and continue with your online endeavors, and not minding your present predicament. Good luck.
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    • Am I understanding correctly that keyword rich domains are no longer necessary and basically a waste of money as far as seo is concerned?
  • rankinghero,

    How many pages do you have on each site?

    Are these the same green-black cookie cutter templates from xfactor?


    Sorry to hear this has happened. But if you can share some more information, we might be able to find the real reason behind.

    I honestly don't think xfactor/clickbump method will get you slapped.
    Type '4 slice toaster' into google. This site has been around for a while now and it's still going strong.
  • Used to help people make $35K mo back in 2004-5 slapped back then, don't care to play with the Google Gorrila anymore.

    Real sites real money, you may want to try CPA, I know a couple folks doing real well there. 6 figure part-time, annual.
  • If you do Adsense long enough, you are going to get banned....99% of the time. Regardless whether you are intentionally or unintentionally breaking their TOS, or hell even if you aren't breaking the TOS.

    Sounds like you learned a painful lesson....diversification.


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    • this May update was an algorithm change related to long tail keywords
      because publishers are not putting up quality content for long tail keywords.

      I know a few people who make over 20k a month with adsense, they add quality content and get links for their sites.

      Of my best sites, they are the ones in which I have done link exchanges believe it or not.

      I think Google may be hip to the exact keyword domain name frenzy that has been taught recently.

      One of my sites 200+ pages was fighting for a top ranking with an exact keyword domain site that had 30 pages. I did some link exchanges and took number 1, also later that site has disappeared and it was a blog.

      My site is a static html site built with frontpage, each section is in a silo.

      20 to 30 relevant link exchanges, branded domain name, 200+ articles, silo structure, some article marketing for links to inner pages= authority and ranking stability, and traffic stability

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    • That is absolute rubbish. Does this view point have anything to do with your sig?

      There is nothing wrong with highlighting alternatives to a system but claiming something like 99% of people will get banned is nonsense.

      The OP did not get banned from Adsense. His problem has nothing to do with Adsense. His problem is due to falling out of the rankings therefore losing traffic. He would have lost his income regardless of the monetisation method he was using because he was relying on organic traffic.
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  • Someone said it above, diversify... Get the link love from anywhere you can, add revenue from multiple sources. x3xsolxdierx3x has it right, the web2.0 stuff is here to stay, you can win and they can too. Heck in most cases, they already are... Join'em
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    • create content that is useful to the visitor
    • I'm in agreement with those who agree with me...lol

      Not only are they 'here to stay', but those sites are upwards of the most popular and trafficked websites online....
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  • So sad, but how long need to take to make $100 per day from Adsense? So far I make only few dollars from Adsense.
  • During Mayday, G00gle slapped two of my microniche sites (each had about 18 pages) from the top 5 in SERP to 150+. They were earning me quite a bit of money, daily.

    Luckily, they were also ranked high on Yahoo and Bing. Of course, earnings dipped to 20-30% of historical levels, but I was thankful that I didn't lose all income.

    Sigh. I'm not sure why G00gle slapped them and not the 6 page sites I had. Also, my 18-page sites that were slapped had a bounce rate in the 30% range -- definitely better than average, according to G00gle ANALytics. Go figure.
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    • How many microniche sites do you have? Do they all earn quite well?
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  • Sites have been in receipt of 'slapped' left accurate and centre the last few weeks. It didn't matter if they were great sites, small sites, new sites, old sites. Are you in no doubt it isn't just this?d
  • A lot of misinformation in this thread, SMH.
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  • Something like that happened to one of my friends.

    But he was making $89 a day. Anyway, I think it's always best to stay under radar sometimes.

    Something I usually tell my visitors is to use proper SEO, because it sounds crazy to see all your efforts go down in one day
  • Did you build too many sites too fast?

    I heard that's a really big red flag to G.
  • If you earn a bit of money for each click on a narrow site, AdSense is profitable only with the construction of a lot of sites in different niches, if you find a niche site that gets a lot of traffic very little competition in top 10, which pays well per click. Google slap sites as they want, without any explanation. They just direct you to their webmaster guidelines to find out for yourself why you hit.
  • I got fed up with google adsense long time before,anyway there are lot of other networks to make money... there are lot of people earn more money from other ad networks than google adsense, below url can show you the statistics.
    Reviews - Exinkai Forum
  • Lesson: Don't use Adsense as your monetisation method.

    So many better alternatives.
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    • Nonsense. Of course there are many different monetisation methods but Adsense is incredible when you get it right.

  • I heard adsense should be 2nd, 3rd or 4th when you get it right. As an example, Mondays through Thursday are usually big days for me in AS, but today is really weird. I am usually at 20 to 30 by noon, today it is less than a buck, with almost the same impressions so the system ain't down or delayed. TODAY is just unreal !

    I heard to really make moolah, that one should do CPA, it is the way to go, then have your own advertising slots for companies on your own sites, membership subscriptions, then AS. I am doing CPA and monetizing other ways so hopefully it is a 1-day blip. Or maybe G found my remarks about them building their empire to be everywhere, in every product, every service while not perfecting it (Analytics, Adwords customer support) and make their own international laws derogatory.
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    Sites should be slapped on the left, right and center in recent weeks. It does not matter if they were large areas, small areas, new sites, old sites. Are you sure it's not just that?
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    $100 per day in Adsense.. slapped

    A few weeks ago, I asked in the Warrior Forum, I was someone making more than $100 per day in Adsense. I was... and after making that amount I had a visit from Google in a visual inspection and SLAPPED....