Posting the same article on your blog and Ezinearticles... good or bad?

by r3bb
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There was a good discussion in a previous thread about whether you post a new article to your blog or Ezinearticles.com first. The general consensus was to always post to your blog first.

But that got me thinking. Should you really be posting the SAME article to your blog as you post to Ezinearticles?

Google has stated that backlinks from unique content are valued higher than backlinks from non-unique content. So if you post unique articles to EzineArticles (ie, do NOT post the same ones that are on your blog), do you benefit from higher quality backlinks?

However, another warrior made the point that articles on EzineArticles are made to be picked up and published by other blogs and content publishers, which would effectively neutralize the "uniqueness" of your EzineArticles backlink.

Or perhaps Google just looks at which website the content was published on first, and then assigns that website as the "owner" of the uniqueness for that content, in which case would it actually be more beneficial to post it on EzineArticles first, and THEN your blog?

Let's discuss this. I'm sure if we can come up with a consensus we'll all be better off in our article marketing efforts.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaggard
    I am not sure how anyone could put it on their blog first. Ezine has a pretty good duplicate content detector and will reject it in a heartbeat.

    That being said, several of my clients have me post to Ezine and then to other article directories.
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    • Profile picture of the author r3bb
      Originally Posted by shaggard View Post

      I am not sure how anyone could put it on their blog first. Ezine has a pretty good duplicate content detector and will reject it in a heartbeat.

      That being said, several of my clients have me post to Ezine and then to other article directories.
      I actually emailed EzineArticles support about this. Here's the conversation:

      Me: Hi EzineArticles team,

      What happens if I post an article on my website and then want to submit that same article to Ezinearticles.com? Is that allowed?

      If, during the review process, an editor notices the same article on my website, would that raise red flags? If so, how can I assure editors that the content is my own, and it's on my website?

      EzineArticles:
      You are allowed to submit your own articles to more than one site. However, if the same article appears on another site without your name attributed to it or with someone else's name on it, your article will not be approved and your account may be suspended.If you are going to post your articles on other sites, just make sure your author name is attached to it and you should have no issues.


      So it sounds like they check for dupe content but it's ok as long as the author names match up.
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  • Profile picture of the author affilorama-portal
    I would not post exactly the same article if my objective is to gain ranking in the SERPs for my blog. What I would do is rewrite the article so that I have another "unique" article for submission to ezinearticles.
    That's not to say that I have not posted the same article on one of my blogs and ezinearticles. I did that to one of my articles but my purpose was not to rank higher on the search engines. I did it so that my sample article could be viewed on ezinearticles aside from my personal blog.
    For effective SEO, you should always rewrite your articles if you mean to post them on more than one place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
    gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooood!

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    • Profile picture of the author r3bb
      Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

      gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooood!

      / thread.
      Ernie, you and affilorama seem to differ in opinion here. Affilorama says it's bad, and you say it's good. Can either of you offer any sort of definitive evidence as to why it would be good or bad? It seems that this forum is largely divided on whether it's a good practice or not.
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      • Profile picture of the author jverley
        It's fine to post to both. If you are putting that much value in a ezine article link (ezine article pages are pr0 to start by the way, only the main domain is 6) you need to re-evaulate your back link strategies.

        The order in which you post them really doesn't matter, as ezine is perfectly ok with you posting your own content. (as stated above) If you are running wordpress there's plugins that can push your post up into your ezine account automaticaly, which would be about the only benefit I could see to putting in on your blog first.
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        • Profile picture of the author r3bb
          Originally Posted by jverley View Post

          It's fine to post to both. If you are putting that much value in a ezine article link (ezine article pages are pr0 to start by the way, only the main domain is 6) you need to re-evaulate your back link strategies.

          The order in which you post them really doesn't matter, as ezine is perfectly ok with you posting your own content. (as stated above) If you are running wordpress there's plugins that can push your post up into your ezine account automaticaly, which would be about the only benefit I could see to putting in on your blog first.
          Well I'm just trying to simplify my backlink strategy right now. I have automatic article submitters, spinners, and all the rest. But it eats up a lot of my time. I want to simplify and optimize... that's my main goal.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
        Listen when I tell you this...test everything yourself. There are more fakes and posers here than anywhere else. A lot of people love to repeat what others say without knowing what the hell they're talking about.

        It was an old myth that duplicate content is bad, yet all Google meant is that the duplicate page may not get indexed or hold as much link value as the original piece. In no way shape or form will it harm your site.



        Originally Posted by r3bb View Post

        Ernie, you and affilorama seem to differ in opinion here. Affilorama says it's bad, and you say it's good. Can either of you offer any sort of definitive evidence as to why it would be good or bad? It seems that this forum is largely divided on whether it's a good practice or not.
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        • Profile picture of the author r3bb
          Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

          Listen when I tell you this...test everything yourself. There are more fakes and posers here than anywhere else. A lot of people love to repeat what others say without knowing what the hell they're talking about.

          It was an old myth that duplicate content is bad, yet all Google meant is that the duplicate page may not get indexed or hold as much link value as the original piece. In no way shape or form will it harm your site.
          Thanks Ernie,

          I realize that those links can never harm your site, but my aim is to optimize the value of my backlink. Do you think your backlink is devalued somewhat is Google perceives the EzineArticles link as not being "unique"?
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          • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
            Nobody knows exactly how Google works, but since duplicate content usually does get indexed, its safe to say that it will still hold some link value.

            The time it takes to rewrite your articles for directories, you could spend that time write new articles for your blog, which is more beneficial.

            Originally Posted by r3bb View Post

            Thanks Ernie,

            I realize that those links can never harm your site, but my aim is to optimize the value of my backlink. Do you think your backlink is devalued somewhat is Google perceives the EzineArticles link as not being "unique"?
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            • Profile picture of the author r3bb
              Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

              Nobody knows exactly how Google works, but since duplicate content usually does get indexed, its safe to say that it will still hold some link value.

              The time it takes to rewrite your articles for directories, you could spend that time write new articles for your blog, which is more beneficial.
              I see. So your argument is that 2 backlinks from EzineArticles which are NOT unique (ie, the same articles are on your blog) are worth more than 1 backlink from EzineArticles which IS unique. Is that right?

              If that's what you're saying, it makes good sense. The next question is, should you be using the resource box to link back to your original article on your blog? I'm thinking that might be a good way to "tell" Google that the content on your blog should be treated as the authority content.
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              • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
                Yes thats what I do.



                Originally Posted by r3bb View Post

                . The next question is, should you be using the resource box to link back to your original article on your blog? I'm thinking that might be a good way to "tell" Google that the content on your blog should be treated as the authority content.
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                • Profile picture of the author jverley
                  I also link back to the article from ezine. Another reason to put it on your site first.
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                • Profile picture of the author r3bb
                  Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

                  Yes thats what I do.
                  I'll give it a go and see if I can come back here and report any successes or failures.

                  By the way, what are your thoughts on submitting articles that have absolutely NOTHING to do with your niche, and then doing some anchor text linking in the resource box? I'm wondering if those kinds of backlinks would be devalued by Google since the article has nothing to do with the anchor text. But I'm considering it as an option since it's a strategy that's specifically recommended by John XFactor.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
                    To be honest that sounds very strange and not sure where John is going with that suggestion, but I'm sure he has a good reason.

                    Yes doing that would give you a backlink which does help but why would you promote a website in your resource box, that has nothing to do with the article? None of the readers will click on it as its not targeted to them:confused:

                    Originally Posted by r3bb View Post

                    I'll give it a go and see if I can come back here and report any successes or failures.

                    By the way, what are your thoughts on submitting articles that have absolutely NOTHING to do with your niche, and then doing some anchor text linking in the resource box? I'm wondering if those kinds of backlinks would be devalued by Google since the article has nothing to do with the anchor text. But I'm considering it as an option since it's a strategy that's specifically recommended by John XFactor.
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                    • Profile picture of the author r3bb
                      Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

                      To be honest that sounds very strange and not sure where John is going with that suggestion, but I'm sure he has a good reason.

                      Yes doing that would give you a backlink which does help but why would you promote a website in your resource box, that has nothing to do with the article? None of the readers will click on it as its not targeted to them:confused:
                      John said he doesn't care about the traffic coming from click-throughs on the article, he only cares about the backlink. It's puzzling and I've got an email in to him about it but he tends to take a while to respond to them
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                      • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
                        LOL he must of been on drugs when he wrote that

                        You might as well get traffic from your articles as well as backlinks...why wouldnt you want to?

                        Also traffic from articles is very targeted.



                        Originally Posted by r3bb View Post

                        John said he doesn't care about the traffic coming from click-throughs on the article, he only cares about the backlink. It's puzzling and I've got an email in to him about it but he tends to take a while to respond to them
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                        • Profile picture of the author r3bb
                          Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

                          LOL he must of been on drugs when he wrote that

                          You might as well get traffic from your articles as well as backlinks...why wouldnt you want to?

                          Also traffic from articles is very targeted.
                          I agree, but sometimes my niches just dont get a lot of article search traffic. And my clickthrough rate is about 14%, so of 500+ article views I have around 70 click-throughs. That's really not a lot of traffic... I'm thinking it might be more worth it to just get the backlink and be happy. Especially since I have a bunch of unique articles laying around that don't correspond to any of my niches.
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                          • Profile picture of the author jverley
                            If all the articles are on the same niche, go ahead and throw up another site and use them to rank that up right away.

                            How many articles are we talking about?
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                            • Profile picture of the author r3bb
                              Originally Posted by jverley View Post

                              If all the articles are on the same niche, go ahead and throw up another site and use them to rank that up right away.

                              How many articles are we talking about?
                              Unfortunately they are all completely different niches. We're talkin' like 20 or so.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
                                Mate stop worrying about this..20 articles is nothing....just do it! Submit them or don't and forget about it...and keep working


                                Originally Posted by r3bb View Post

                                Unfortunately they are all completely different niches. We're talkin' like 20 or so.
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                                • Profile picture of the author r3bb
                                  Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

                                  Mate stop worrying about this..20 articles is nothing....just do it! Submit them or don't and forget about it...and keep working
                                  Yeah I'm gonna call it a night. Thanks for the tips tonight
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                              • Profile picture of the author jverley
                                I'd go ahead and post them if your really bent on using them for something lol.

                                I'd really caution you on solely relying on ezine for your backlinks. All those links coming from the same domain don't really mean as much as some people would think. The first few probably count pretty well, but in my experience 20 links from ezine is enough, and you won't really see any difference between 20 ezine links pointing to your site, and 50. Unless you are trying to do some deep linking and linking to your internal pages, then you might see some return after the first 20 still.
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                                • Profile picture of the author r3bb
                                  Originally Posted by jverley View Post

                                  I'd go ahead and post them if your really bent on using them for something lol.

                                  I'd really caution you on solely relying on ezine for your backlinks. All those links coming from the same domain don't really mean as much as some people would think. The first few probably count pretty well, but in my experience 20 links from ezine is enough, and you won't really see any difference between 20 ezine links pointing to your site, and 50. Unless you are trying to do some deep linking and linking to your internal pages, then you might see some return after the first 20 still.
                                  I'll try it and see if it works. If it does I'll come back and post something here about it.
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                      • Profile picture of the author James Hussey
                        Re: the John Xfactor method -- not to give away all his secrets here, but the thinking was that if your niche is "yellow potato peeler" -- who the HECK is going to read that??

                        BUT if you write on "losing weight while eating ice cream," or some other high-traffic sort of topic, then more of your articles would get syndication. More links, as other webmasters would pick it up.

                        I haven't seen that happen, actually, at least not until I copied/pasted those articles to ArticlesBase and GoArticles (again, John's system) -- the ArticlesBase articles for some reason see a lot more syndication. Not sure why.

                        And doing this method, I was able to rank pretty high...when I used UAW and other submission services, like SEOLinkVine, my rankings jumped up into the top 10.

                        Regarding your issue of saving time, I've found that going to HumanRewriter.com and having them re-write your articles is very cheap, they do a good job imho, and then you can submit that to UAW (or just re-write your articles yourself, it's not as hard as spinning).

                        I'm #1 in several cases from these UAW runs (well, the articles are #1 in many cases, my site being #2-5 in many cases). Otherwise, you may want to invest in other linking strategies to save time (if you don't want to outsource, but human rewriter is dirt cheap).
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                        • Profile picture of the author James Hussey
                          Oh, and by the way, ITA with you guys re: "Why wouldn't you want TRAFFIC from those articles too?"

                          Something I learned the hard way. I have about 100 articles with CTRs of 1-4% thanks to listening to...well, others. I'm revising that strategy.

                          One other issue is that my PR has increased from using UAW to submit niche-related, unique content. Again: learned it the hard way. Always send niche-related articles!

                          I'm going to be using your idea of posting my content to the directories now, thanks for the thread. Good read.
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                          • Profile picture of the author r3bb
                            Originally Posted by JamestheJust on Elance View Post

                            Oh, and by the way, ITA with you guys re: "Why wouldn't you want TRAFFIC from those articles too?"

                            Something I learned the hard way. I have about 100 articles with CTRs of 1-4% thanks to listening to...well, others. I'm revising that strategy.

                            One other issue is that my PR has increased from using UAW to submit niche-related, unique content. Again: learned it the hard way. Always send niche-related articles!

                            I'm going to be using your idea of posting my content to the directories now, thanks for the thread. Good read.
                            Yeah, I have begun posting my content to the directories as well. However, does anyone know of a list of article directories which accept duplicate content? That would be handy.

                            Basically, for which article directories do I need to spin my content and for which ones do I not?
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                  • Profile picture of the author jverley
                    I wouldn't bother posting non related articles, as once again your combining different styles of backlinking. If your going to bother writing an article, half the point it to get traffic directly from ezine as well. (and you said your trying to streamline and optimize)

                    As far as google valuing the link any less, my opnion is they wouldn't, but now your starting up the whole link relevancy argument that has been going on for the last few years...
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                    • Profile picture of the author r3bb
                      Originally Posted by jverley View Post

                      I wouldn't bother posting non related articles, as once again your combining different styles of backlinking. If your going to bother writing an article, half the point it to get traffic directly from ezine as well. (and you said your trying to streamline and optimize)

                      As far as google valuing the link any less, my opnion is they wouldn't, but now your starting up the whole link relevancy argument that has been going on for the last few years...
                      Well I have a bunch of original, unique articles laying around that have nothing to do with my niches. I'm considering posting them to EzineArticles to get some damn use out of them, and I might as well use the resource box to backlink to some of my niche sites. I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience that would indicate that this will only be a huge waste of my time...
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  • Profile picture of the author happymoney8
    Depends on what you are trying to do. The uniqueness of the article drives the type of traffic, re-posting the same article is good for referred traffic, but not so good for backlinks which would bring more organic traffic.
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