Why doesn't my site have any Page Rank?

by JackPowers 8 replies
Ok, I don't want to share the URL at the moment, but maybe you can help me clarify this mystery.

It's a Wordpress blog built on the Thesis theme with all the proper plugins: Platinum SEO, Yet Another Related Post Plugin etc.

It has 500+ backlinks in Google Webmaster tools, a combination of articles, blogposts, blogcomments, profile links, directories, forums, sitewide links, you name it.

It has good rankings. In fact it outranks sites with PR 3 and PR 4. I don't link to any bad neighborhoods as far as I'm concerned. It is a heavily commerical site, but doesn't look spammy and there is good content. It also earns around $500 a month.

So, why on earth don't I get some PR?

I have made one page sites in X-Site Pro that has gotten PR2 after submitting 10 articles (some syndicated), so it's not like I am clueless.

I really have no clue? Could it be a lack of privacy and contact page and some Google engineer saw it?

Help me solve this mystery?
#search engine optimization #page #rank #site
  • Profile picture of the author ocsSEO01
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    • Profile picture of the author magicman2003
      1. Last Page-rank (PR) Update 31 December 2009
      2. First 2010 Page-rank (PR) Update
      31 March – 3 April 2010
      3. Second 2010 Page-rank (PR) Update 30 June – 7 July 2010
      4. Third 2010 Page-rank (PR) Update
      31 September – 7 October 2010
      5. Fourth 2010 Page-rank (PR) Update 31 December – 2 January 2011

      The above data is the assumption based on previous PR updates
      . Google Generally updates website or blog Page-rank PR 4 times in a year. All these updates are major PR updates. Every month Google also do minor Page-rank updates for every site.


      One reason would be, you might not have done your on-page optimization correctly. As you said add a privacy control page, about us page, proper titles for each and every post. put all titles in H1 tag, ping your website after each and every update. If the URL is new the URL would be a given a page rank of zero initially and goes up..


      My website is very new with just 20 articles, I have only 2 back links but every on page optimization is perfectly done and I have a page rank of 3.
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      • Profile picture of the author Josip Barbaric
        I doubt that anyone can really give you a good answer on that. Could I ask: why are you so concerned with PR if your site has good rankings and is making money? PR is just that irrelevant green thing in your toolbar, as far as I'm concerned

        Cheers,

        Josip
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    Thanks guys. I will have to wait and see for the next update. The reason I care about PR is for doing link exchange. It's easier to convince other webmasters that my site has good SEO value if I have page rank, even if PR is not really important for rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by JackPowers View Post

      Thanks guys. I will have to wait and see for the next update. The reason I care about PR is for doing link exchange. It's easier to convince other webmasters that my site has good SEO value if I have page rank, even if PR is not really important for rankings.
      Hi Jack,


      Link Exchange schemes designed to manipulate PR are a violation of Google's webmaster guidelines.

      Specifically they state:

      Your site's ranking in Google search results is partly based on analysis of those sites that link to you. The quantity, quality, and relevance of links count towards your rating. The sites that link to you can provide context about the subject matter of your site, and can indicate its quality and popularity. However, some webmasters engage in link exchange schemes and build partner pages exclusively for the sake of cross-linking, disregarding the quality of the links, the sources, and the long-term impact it will have on their sites. This is in violation of Google's webmaster guidelines and can negatively impact your site's ranking in search results. Examples of link schemes can include:
      • Links intended to manipulate PageRank
      • Links to web spammers or bad neighborhoods on the web
      • Excessive reciprocal links or excessive link exchanging ("Link to me and I'll link to you.")
      • Buying or selling links that pass PageRank
      Source: Link schemes - Webmaster Tools Help

      It could be that they have detected your link exchange activity and have devalued your PageRank.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    Link exchange? Wow, good luck with the old reciprocals.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Yeah I would can the link exchange thing. Now if you can sell links....

      It depends on what your ranking for and how valuable it is.
      Then PR certainly matters. But this thread can outrank a lot of things
      with PR n/a, but that would not be a useful search.

      People come up with all sorts of scenarios where they "outrank"
      many sites. But scenarios sometimes are not real life.

      Is your site PR0 or N/A? There is a difference.

      Another thing that people don't realize in a lot of things as far
      as PR goes, is that you cannot force google to give a site PR,
      no matter how many high PR backlinks the site has. Sometimes
      google just does not want to give any PR to a site.

      I had a case like that. I had a PR n/a site for 2 years +. I had
      tons of backlinks, high and low PR. Nothing could nudge it.
      It was indexed, so I knew it was not banned. All the content on
      it was junk. Copied articles from article sites. I scrapped the
      site, filled it with a blog with unique posts. The very next
      PR update it was PR4. But I digress.

      You really don't know the true PR of any site until the next update.
      It does sound as if you are on the right track. But also I would
      caution against doing things from a list, like some SEO plugin, and
      expecting it to create miracles.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post


        Is your site PR0 or N/A? There is a difference.

        Another thing that people don't realize in a lot of things as far
        as PR goes, is that you cannot force google to give a site PR,
        no matter how many high PR backlinks the site has. Sometimes
        google just does not want to give any PR to a site.
        +1

        Both very good points and something I think people gloss over sometimes when discussing PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovystar
    If you are ranking well on google's search placement who cares what your PR is? You accomplished already what you probably wanted the PR for.

    my site is a 0 and outranks a pr 6 site for my main keyword, because it is more relevant. That is really the only reason because they have been there longer and are like I said much higher PR.
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