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14 years ago

SEO Link Building are the trickiest, most difficult and most important part of SEO, and there is a lot to know about it. This link is a great place to start figuring them out.

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ronperkins

14 years ago

These are some of the main ways to get one-way backlinks:

1. Submitting your website to SEO friendly directories.
2. Commenting on blogs that do not use the "nofollow" tag.
3. Submitting articles and press releases.
4. Forum signatures that don't use the "nofollow" tag.
5. Creating your own network of websites that are cross-linking (just make sure each site has a different IP address).
6. 3-way link exchanges.

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PhilipSEO

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ronperkins

These are some of the main ways to get one-way backlinks:

1. Submitting your website to SEO friendly directories.
2. Commenting on blogs that do not use the "nofollow" tag.
3. Submitting articles and press releases.
4. Forum signatures that don’t use the "nofollow" tag.
5. Creating your own network of websites that are cross-linking (just make sure each site has a different IP address).
6. 3-way link exchanges.

Bad advice, low-level SEO tactics. Into the bargain, networking links is hard and you may get burned. Don't antagonize the Google algo.

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mattlaclear 14 years ago

Originally Posted by PhilipSEO

Bad advice, low-level SEO tactics. Into the bargain, networking links is hard and you may get burned. Don't antagonize the Google algo.

You think article marketing for backlinking purposes is bad advice??? That's ridiculous.
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- PhilipSEO 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by mattlaclear
  
  You think article marketing for backlinking purposes is bad advice??? That's ridiculous.
  
  It's a bottom feeding tactic. A agree with what this guy says about the value of article marketing, and the is one of the world's top SEOs:
  SEOmoz | Article Marketing + Submission for SEO | Whiteboard Friday
  Is he ridiculous too?
  
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ronperkins 14 years ago

If you want back-links then you need to get your links out there... the main thing is that you want quality back-links from authority sites. I have to agree don’t get hung-up over Google.
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- paulgl 14 years ago
  
  99% of what PhilipSEO says on the WF I agree with.
  
  That is an old warn out laundry list of backlinks.
  
  The new style is a few, high PR, high authority backlinks.
  
  If people keep preaching 1,000's of useless backlinks, the
  better for the rest of us.
  
  What else are you asking about backlinks for except SEO?
  
  If not, then by all means. Go out and create as many
  gawd-awful links as possible.
  
  People have got to start thinking about their own empires.
  Using them the fullest. Squidoo is a good start, so is hub.
  
  You can cross link as many same ip sites as you like. Google
  readily loves stuff like that. gasbuddy, icanhascheezburger, to name
  two of my favorites. If that were true, you better skip squidoo.
  But squidoo gives me a ton of juice. So do my blogspot blogs. All
  interlinked. The wikipedia empire is all on the same ip, all interlinked.
  And google hates them, right?
  
  One of the best kept secrets (I don't know why) is to use your own
  high PR, high authority sites to create an empire. I put my own
  unique articles on my blogs and websites only.
  
  Paul
  
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LauraJ

14 years ago

Thanks for all of these - I am definately doing link building for SEO not just to build up a collection of links.

I was just wondering if I was missing a trick of finding good quality links. I know that the best ones are recommendations from other people and article marketing because you have to give something to get something in return.

I was trying to find out what technique link building companies use to build up links for clients for so little money as it seems to be that for good quality links you have to work a little harder at them.

Regarding blog posts and forums - it is really hard to make them not look like spam. I believe in good quality links not spammy ones and ruining everyone's experience online.

Sometimes it feels like I am not making enough links but surely Google will change at some point to put even more weight on quality and not quantity than it does already - afterall, anyone can comment on a blog post it doesn't mean your website deserves to be any higher in the SERPS.

Am I on the right lines?

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NicoleBeckett

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LauraJ

...anyone can comment on a blog post it doesn't mean your website deserves to be any higher in the SERPS.

Am I on the right lines?

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You're exactly right. Alot of links out there are not as high-quality because just about anyone can get them. Anyone can buy a link. Anyone can trade for a link.

You need to aim for the quality links that really do show the search engines that you deserve a higher ranking. How do you do it? Through quality content - whether it's on your site or off. If you create content that's interesting that other people WANT to link to, you're on the right track. For example, instead of spending time making blog comments (which, yes, just about anyone can do), look for blogs that take guest posters. That way, you get a quality backlink AND you get the attention of highly-targeted traffic. For all you know, you could get some loyal readers out of it, or people may simply love your guest post and link to it on their own sites.

Yes, building quality backlinks can be a slow process. If it were easy, everyone would do it!!

But, if you work hard (and work consistently), you will see good results.

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PhilipSEO

14 years ago

Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett

Yes, building quality backlinks can be a slow process. If it were easy, everyone would do it!!

But, if you work hard (and work consistently), you will see good results.

Nicole, I agree with most of what you say, but link development needn't necessarily be a slow painful process.

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Scootek

14 years ago

It's a hard one to get right. Some of the directory submission services are rubbish. Get someone you can trust to do it or do it yourself. Weigh up what value you put on your time and how much time it's going to take and how much it's going to cost for someone else to do it.

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LauraJ

14 years ago

Thanks to everyone - it's much clearer now.

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Scootek

14 years ago

I have always been led to believe that if Google and co see's too many backlinks to you at once, sudden upsurge in your backlinks, then you can to som eextent get penalised.

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Cataclysm1987

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Scootek

I have always been led to believe that if Google and co see's too many backlinks to you at once, sudden upsurge in your backlinks, then you can to som eextent get penalised.

This was true at one time, but Google has phased that practice out since spammers have started manipulating the system by churning out nasty backlinks for competitors sites.

The truth is, you have no complete control over what one way links are pointing to your site, so Google can't punish you for digital equity that doesn't even belong to you as far as they know.

At least, according to Angie, the Backlinks Queen of the Universe, that's how it works.

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Scootek

14 years ago

Thanks. That is very useful to know. As I have some young sites that I want to develop fast.

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Domenic Carlson

14 years ago

We actually ran an experiment to see what happens if you build links too fast (this was 6 months ago). We started with nothing and let our newly built trial site sit there for a coupe of months with a link or two just to have Google register that it was not being linked to. Then we started a big linking program with articles, blogs, and all the other usual stuff. We got pretty great results and then after about 3 months we were kicked off Yahoo completely. It took us a little bit to climb our way back but it was a useful lesson to learn.

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Scootek

14 years ago

I am getting 2 contradictory set of views, unless you are saying this changed happened very recently!

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lexilexi

14 years ago

Best way to control your link building is to do it yourself. Unless you know enough about it to ascertain whether or not the practices of a company offering link services are legit. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Another good practice is to observe the serps over a period of time, and analyze the link profiles of the sites that are at the top. I learned more that way than through any pages of "link building tips"

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Scootek

14 years ago

Originally Posted by lexilexi

Best way to control your link building is to do it yourself. Unless you know enough about it to ascertain whether or not the practices of a company offering link services are legit. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Another good practice is to observe the serps over a period of time, and analyze the link profiles of the sites that are at the top. I learned more that way than through any pages of "link building tips"

I agree. However, it's very difficult to do it all on your own unless you have loads of time on your hands.

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ajmorgans

14 years ago

It's not all that impossible but it's not all that great of a deal either.
1000 Backlinks in 1 or 2 days can lead to bad news with Google.

First, you would need to make sure it's in an expanded period of time.
The process must be NATURAL or there is no point of importance here.

You need to find out some information, like:
What is the Page Ranks inside these backlinks?
What is the domain name Google Stats?
And you run some tests on the history of that company.

Overall, if you identify a consistent marketing on their part, more or less, they are legit. Look them up in other IM/SEO locations.
If found on Warrior, it's more or less Good but if you don't want risk the chance, look up their information/history to make sure you get your questions answered.

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dremora

14 years ago

A few backlinks on high PR sites is more valuable than a gazillion backlinks on worthless sites.

I do comment on high traffic blogs, not for SEO or backlink purposes but to bring human readers. Humans don't care about nofollow tags, if you write a halfway decent comment and engage in the discussions, it brings quality targeted readers over time.

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ronperkins

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dremora

I do comment on high traffic blogs, not for SEO or backlink purposes but to bring human readers. Humans don't care about nofollow tags, if you write a halfway decent comment and engage in the discussions, it brings quality targeted readers over time.

from my experience you are absolutley right... but I do tend to try and find sites that do not force the nofollow so that I can also earn the backlink. But I could not agree more regarding it brings quality targated readers to your website over time.

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seoindiaforu

14 years ago

Actually there is a confusion.The answer is:- the links should be build slowly so that Google does not sees it as a spam and at the same time more concentration should nbe given on building quality backlinks,no matter if you get less of them.A link from pr page is much more valuable than 100's of links from non-pr pages.

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Orlando Web Design

14 years ago

This topic never gets old =) (well maybe a bit)

I just read yet another Google webmasters article about how little importance Google places on quantity of backlinks.

Google is far from stupid. They want high quality and relevance.

The companies that continue to sell backlink packages are preying on the never ending influx of WF newbies who really lack knowledge of how Google really works.

I stopped buying into the backlink hoopla a long time ago.

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Scootek 14 years ago

You can tell me otherwise, but quality is hard to achieve. To find relevant links from your particular niche is one of the harder things to do in back link building (in my experience).
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