Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer

Its nonsense. The PR4+ will be the home page. The PR of page that the link will be on will be either 0 or n/a ... ie worthless. PR is given per page not per site.

But do you know why these links are better than an xrumer blast?

They both useless. the xrummer will also be on PR0 or n/a profile. They will mostly also be deleted by forum admins and mods.

Which links are better to get? Angela and Paul high PR profile links with anchor text done manually or Xrumer post blast with anchor which is auto spam on thousands of sites? Or do they equally hold same value? I need to diversify my links and was either thinking of angela high pr links or just getting an xrumer blast done.? Which way should I go? I don't want to do both.

I think Angela/Paul backlinks are good.. It seems very legit and is very cheap.. I subscribed to it a few days ago.. I hope it works..

No, I wasn't spamming because I mainly used websites not forums and if I did use forums I didn't post anything.. I will say that 95 percent of people trying to make money online use the forums as a way to get traffic to their websites or blogs.. So do you call that spamming too?? I use the forums to get information not to spam and I just tried those backlinks to try it out.. I am still new to this kind of stuff..

Depends ... if they are useful member of the community then no problem; if they just joining to either get a link in their profile and/or fluff posting to get a link, then that is spam. Thats gets you banned from all my forums.

IM'ers try to rationalise this all sorts of ways, but its spam however you want to rationlise it and those that do it are spammers and deserve to be treated with contempt.

Yeah and that is what I am trying to be.. I don't want to be labeled as being a spammer.. I like communicating with people and if I can give my opinion and advice I will..

Its still spam and those that do it are still spammers.

My sites get their links OK so I do not need to resort to such bottom dwelling techniques as used by the spammers advocated here.

I personally dont like xrumer i would prefer to go with Angela/Paul's backlinks its way better

A followed link is a bonus, even if it has no PR. Why are people so obsessed with PR?

As for the spammers comment, have a look at this post about that exact subject and what Rand Fishkin of SEOmoz said the other week, then come back here and apologise for talking utter rubbish.

The guys ranking above you are probably not so sweepingly naive.

Yes the links are 0pr and -pr but they seem to get pr much faster than a normal site that starts from - or 0 pr.

@cbpayne

lol you are cracking me up. You might look trough your forum every day to see who registered and placed links but most dont, in fact they are just glad another person registered at their forum.

ps good luck on suing every person putting a link on your forum

Spam is unsolicited. If Admin's don't want want people participating in their forum's where they allow profile and signature links, then they should stop offering the ability to do such. I will only make a post if I have something worth contibuting. I don't go throughout forums, saying buy my this or go here...As other posters have said...whther you agree or not, until Gooogle thinks they are a waste of time, they will still be indexed

I believe, as many do, that spam means you are posting, probably annoying people, desperately trying to get people to visit your "money site".
I think that a link in a signature in an otherwise thoughtful post is not spam. And, especially, a link to your site on an "about me" page that hardly anyone will ever see, is definitely not spam.

three words - mix it up!

dont go for only one particular method. spread your efforts out evenly so google thinks its an authority site. go slow and steady. don't slow down your link velocity too.. or it will get under google radar.

do XRumer Blast then index it using Backlink Energizer or BIE or Backlink Booster or something...

don't forget to vary your backlink source

Angela and Pauls are better.

If you're using Xrumer or Angela's Backlinks make sure you don't use it on your money sites or you'll end up in Google's Sandbox.

My forums were getting dozens of new members daily... obviously spam, and they were posting rubbish. So I disabled the ability to post links in posts and profiles, and even though they no longer post, the bots still visit... in HUGE numbers.

It's great for traffic, lol!

Z

I think its a best offer to our link on high pr.

I have a cheaper paul & angela style backlink package also higher PR if you want to check out my sig. It is manually built so it will take a few days because I have days worth of orders in line already. But, as everyone said, they have a little bit more value then normal Xrumer links, but the key thing is they are indexed much more easily. If you can index them with your own tools, I would just go with Xrumer. I provide both kinds of packages if you want to check em out, and link pyramids.

this is thread of the year right here!

Paul and Angela Pros

* They work – proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, no gimmicks, no hard sell, plain and simple, Paul and Angela’s technique works. Well, there’re certainly a lot of links to have and for not much outlay – link packs are relatively cheap and the old subscription was just $5.00 a month!
* You can have them quickly – Paul and Angela choose aged authority sites for quick indexing.
* It’s really easy – in fact these days, Paul and Angela will do it all for you and then send you the report – with prices starting at under $60.00.
* Their system has been revised to minimize the number of forum owners automatically deleting dummy accounts.
* With a little extra effort (add a photo, make a couple of posts to the forums in the first few weeks) you can avoid losing up to 50% of your backlinks in the early days.
* You may receive a quick (if not sustained) jump in your SERP position so, for sales or timely promotions, it can be a great option.

Paul and Angela Cons

* “All five of my sites have been de-indexed by Google – HELP” This is an actual forum thread, in a real life discussion forum on this method and it’s not the only one. The very thought of it makes my stomach turn and it might be “con” enough for you to run away screaming from Paul and Angela! When it comes down to it, Paul and Angela sell spam. It is spam all dressed up in a nice white hat, but underneath, it’s still spam and it’s still creating patterns that can be detected by the Google spam squad. If you’re here for a good time not a long time, then party hard with Paul and Angela until the endless summer ends abruptly – but if you’re looking for a steady, secure, white hat future for your business, Paul and Angela may not make suitable bed fellows.
* The great debate about whether the URL must contain the same keywords as the backlink rages on (i.e. the site is from your niche). In my experience, it doesn’t make a scrap of difference but there is a sizable contingent who believes that the only valuable link comes from a related site, Paul and Angela’s method does not cater to this.
* Careful forum owners can smell your spam and delete you before you can even finish the sign up process.
* They won’t help you to organically grow your site so if, as the links fade and many stop being indexed, you will need to buy more to keep your SERP position. If you focused on quality content, over the long term, your links would grow organically and for free.
* Everybody’s doing it….the best reason to stop! Once the whole world catches on, it’s time to find the next thing that works because by that time, Google has caught on too – the longer the technique is used, the better your chances of getting Google-slapped out of existence.

I have never get good rank with xRumer. I vote Paul & Angela packet ...

This is truly a tricky thing to get ones head around. I have one site that ranks for over 1200 keywords a month (according to google analytics) and appears on the front page for some of the most competitive keywords (stock market niche) and I've never bought 1 backlink pack or even attempted to do anything of the sort.

I've been reading up on xrumer and scrapebox and I'm getting more and more confused. It seems the number 1 'trick' is to provide incredible content on your site as your first option. 2nd option is to then create solid content on the top article directories that link deeply to your main pages plus of course your home page.

Is all this 'massive backlink' idea over rated or should I continue trying to find a path among the many 'secret's and 'lies' currently being peddled out there?

I use Paul's links and like them so far. I've used Angela's in the past and have seen results, a couple of her links made it to my "linked to" data in webmaster tools. And registering for a Forum and adding 2-3 links to a signature or bio is not spam. Do not get it twisted bruh! It's only spam when you post 5-10 times a day

I would rather outsource the links vs xrumer because not a lot of people know this but the hype of xrumer is dieing out because no one is making long-term progress.

I have outsourced my backlinks package, that I've built, and it cost me much less for greater results than if i was to automate with xrumer... To me... that's the BEST ROI... Spend less and make more... If someone offers that to you, take the deal!

This thread is brilliant, I love the Forum/Troll owner with his inaccurate information. I bet he has a tattoo of the G in a superman emblem!

To answer simply:

Both are good. But you don't need xrumer unless you have so many websites.

From my experience, the SERP boost of 5000 xrumer blast(I mean the blast & not the number of links) is roughly equal to a 100 Anjela, paul links. Price wise also both cost same ($15 - $20) if you outsource.

Just decide which one suits you (xrumer or Anjela Paul).

excellent thread, thanks everyone!

Question: - is the discussion focussing on angelas links and xrumer because looking at getting .edu type or PR7,PR* /authority links are out of the price range for people in this discussion?

Im told that one PR8 link may be worth up to 1000 profile links (which are all PR0 by their nature). And as for the .edu type links ...

Why are these not being discussed here? They can be bought too (even on fiverr.com I see) - so what would be the best value of all?

All the best

Sam

PS The discussion about spamming on profile pages was hysterical :-)