Linkvana? Best way for an agency to systematize offsite optimiz?

I would not use automated link building on a client's site, period! At least not without specifically letting them know the risks involved. To do all their link building with Linkvana (which does work) is foolhardy. It's not the links themselves that can hurt the clients' site, but the broad pattern of manipulation reportable by a competitor. If a site comes up for a manual review at Google, it is likely to be screwed. Proper Link Building SEO is about developing a robust, well diversified link profile.

It seems to me that "rebranding" or "white labeling" automated link building such as provided Linkvana is simply unethical. Surely if that's what your clients' were looking for they would be better off using Linvana (or equivalent) directly, for $120/month, rather than paying your fees, which I am sure are astronomical by comparison!

Pardon me for saying so, but for a marketing agency, you guys seem to be pursuing very low level link tactics. And it's strange that you see the options only between such a waste of time as article marketing (see this video about it: http://www.seomoz.org/blog/whiteboar...ission-for-seo) and such a cheap and spammy approach as automatic links. Have you considered more serious link marketing, developing quality relevant contextual links from private sites? Those are the ones that set SEO providers apart.

Just my 2 cents.

Hi Tacky22

My recommendation would be to form your own network with indiviaul sites.

Find good sites, contact them and introduce yourself, tell them what you offer, never abuse their trust.

I can speak to this method from the custeor end. I have a PR 5 site that's been aournd for almost 10 years. A few months ago, I was contacted by a makreting agency.

Long story short, I now lease them 2 subdomains (which resolve to their own servers) and they also rent 4 home page links from my main site.

I'm sure I'm only one many partnerships they have formed. I'm also sure that whatever they are paying me, thjey are charging their customers more.

I would suggest that you learn to identify people of influence who have an online presence in your client's vertical. Once you know of those influential people in the vertical that own blogs, businesses, etc. then develop a relationship with them. Once you have interacted with them for some time then approach them to promote your client and get links.

But before you even bother trying to promote a site online for a client, make sure they have great content. If they don't have great content then you're doomed from the start. No other webmaster is going to want to put their name and site's reputation on the line for a site that has crappy content. Sites with crappy or even mediocre content are doomed to spend their existance buliding links from other crappy and mediocre sites using low quality link building techniques like blog commenting, forum posting, article submission, directory submission, link exchanges/reciprocation, companies like linkvana, etc.

If you want to learn about link building, I suggest you read everything you can from Eric Ward. They call him "Link Moses" for a reason. He's been building links for over a decade and a half. His methods work really well, but they have one prerequesite... good content.

I appreciate all of the links and suggestions. It sounds like we're just going to have to start charging our clients more for a strategic/quality linking service.

I hope I can help you guys with something for repayment down the road