Why did I lose my ranking?

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I was wondering if someone can help me with something.

I currently use Market Samurai which I love by the way. I have a niche site that I have been working on and trying my best to monetize it to the top of Google.

This is what I have been doing:

1) Article Marketing
2) Forum Marketing
3) Blog Post Marketing

I was climbing up the ranks and was holding at page 7 and now I am completely off the charts??

Can anyone think of a reason why this is happening and what I need to do differently?

Thanks for any help!
#lose #ranking
  • Profile picture of the author ITOutsourcing
    Hey Fred about a year ago i was asking the exact same question, don't worry about it give it few days at the longest weeks and it will come back. It's possible that your site will show instability few other times after that. Just keep doing and if in few weeks it doesn't come than start worrying :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    Did you ping any of the backlinks that you were submitting? I know sometimes when i get too aggressive with a keyword that is ranking higher than page 5 I usually get knocked off the top 1000. But I just keep backlinking to it and they always resurface a few months down the road.

    Also I know that when I have a site at page 5 or beyond disappear on me there is a chance that Google is getting ready to slide it up towards page 1. Some people call it the Google Dance but it can be quite frustrating if you're only running the one campaign.

    So my advice to you is too keep backlinking your site as it will come back and those links do count big time.

    You may want to take some time while you're waiting for it to resurface to double check your on page optimization to make sure it's squared away. A lot of times you can find something that you missed.

    For instance:

    1) Do you have an image with your keyword listed as the alt tag?
    2) Is the keyword listed in the title?
    3) Is your title less than 10 words long?
    4) Do have your keywords bolded and italicized everywhere they are listed?
    5) Do you have the keyword listed in the H1, H2, and H3 header tags?
    6) You have an anchor text of your keyword linked to an authority site like Wikipedia?
    7) If it's a blog do you have all your plug ins configured properly (especially "all in one seo")?

    If you can answer yes to all seven of these questions you know you're squared away and ready to rock and roll as far as your on page optimization goes. Then all you have to do is keep backlinking like you have been and your site will resurface.
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  • Profile picture of the author brada7x
    Yeah as mentioned above that is often times what happens when Google is re-evaluating your and usually you'll make a comeback and secure an even better spot in the SERPs. It just takes a while sometimes.
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  • Profile picture of the author fredjr1978
    Originally Posted by bikaidus View Post

    You may get flagged if you submit too many articles in a day.
    How many is too many articles? I have been doing 15-20 a day.
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    • Profile picture of the author ITOutsourcing
      Originally Posted by fredjr1978 View Post

      How many is too many articles? I have been doing 15-20 a day.

      I have to tell you for a new site that my truly be too much, you should started with about 10 articles per month
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        • Profile picture of the author fredjr1978
          Originally Posted by Paul Barrs View Post

          Perhaps, but I think worse advice is trying to flog a dead horse and hoping it will get up and carry you home.
          Thanks for you input Paul, I really do appreciate it. The reason why I asked this question was to get help and input on what I may have done wrong. Maybe it was bad keyword research, or perhaps something else...but I will only get better on each site I try and perfect. I was really just wanting to know if there was a common answer to why this happens.

          What I do know is Google is always changing and as soon as you stop learning you can pretty much be tossed out with the dead fish.

          Thank you to everyone on here who is actually giving sound advice, it is very much appreciated...
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  • Profile picture of the author Najat Engineer
    someone mentioned the google dance, one of my niche sites has been jumping a lot these days, last week it was on page 7 then yesterday it jumped to page 3 and today it's on page 5!!

    all that I know now is to keep backlinking and working on other websites as well..
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    • Profile picture of the author fredjr1978
      Originally Posted by Najat Engineer View Post

      someone mentioned the google dance, one of my niche sites has been jumping a lot these days, last week it was on page 7 then yesterday it jumped to page 3 and today it's on page 5!!

      all that I know now is to keep backlinking and working on other websites as well..
      Thanks for the advice....sounds good...
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  • Profile picture of the author maggie2
    I have a couple of sites that are jumping quite a bit in the last few days also. Maybe Google is messing with the algorhythms again or something?
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    Originally Posted by fredjr1978 View Post

    I was wondering if someone can help me with something.

    I currently use Market Samurai which I love by the way. I have a niche site that I have been working on and trying my best to monetize it to the top of Google.

    This is what I have been doing:

    1) Article Marketing
    2) Forum Marketing
    3) Blog Post Marketing

    I was climbing up the ranks and was holding at page 7 and now I am completely off the charts??

    Can anyone think of a reason why this is happening and what I need to do differently?

    Thanks for any help!
    The reason WHY it happens is because that's the nature of the
    internet. It's very difficult to control response in a way that is
    predictable and long-lasting. On one hand you have speed, but
    it works both ways.

    With speed, comes the opportunity to try many things and make
    money in different ways...but with that comes the price of speed...
    entire websites and businesses gone in the blink of an eye. If it
    was profitable now, there's no gaurantee you can repeat those
    results even if it worked in the past -- because the internet moves,
    too much.

    What do you need to do differently? Nothing. You've done every-
    thing right. You just need to keep up with the speed and changes
    along the way. That's the part I hate, but it's also the part some
    people love (and why they are successful marketing online)
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    If something does come up, it is simply a burp in the rankings... Those things happen all of the time...
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Paul, your advice is nothing short than horrible. I recently launched a site that initially ranked back at page 72. Yeah, thats right - page 72. Within 3 months I had it at top of page 2, and page 1 for numerous keywords.

    That particular site sells a $2,000 product, so in my opinion it was worth "flogging that dead horse"
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerdrun
    Originally Posted by fredjr1978 View Post

    I was wondering if someone can help me with something.

    I currently use Market Samurai which I love by the way. I have a niche site that I have been working on and trying my best to monetize it to the top of Google.

    This is what I have been doing:

    1) Article Marketing
    2) Forum Marketing
    3) Blog Post Marketing

    I was climbing up the ranks and was holding at page 7 and now I am completely off the charts??

    Can anyone think of a reason why this is happening and what I need to do differently?

    Thanks for any help!
    The so called google dance. If you get first page rankings, you won't lose it. But this happens...don't worry. just keep building links and you'll go even higher.
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerdrun
    Originally Posted by bikaidus View Post

    You may get flagged if you submit too many articles in a day.
    this is bad advice. you will not get flagged even if u submit 1000 articles and get over 1000 backlinks in a day.

    sure you won't get instant top rankings. it will take a few hours, days or even weeks until all the links are indexed and ur site ranks. but getting a million backlinks in a day isn't a problem.

    it's actually good and appears quite natural
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeid22
    Do you know what % of times you used the anchor text (exact anchor text) in the recent backlinks you gained?

    As if you over do it, you may get filtered out for that keyterm, although from experiments/experience, this is often a short term thing...

    Still, best to keep it natrual looking, especially with either new pages/sites, or when backlinks for the first time (or first time in a while)
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    • Profile picture of the author thetruth23
      Originally Posted by christopherNV View Post

      That is short sighted and bad advice.

      Maybe he doesn't want to use PPC, or can't afford PPC, or maybe he want to reply on passive and free organic search engine traffic.

      PPC is cute n' all but it's no every marketers cup o' tea.
      Agreed.

      Originally Posted by Paul Barrs View Post

      Perhaps, but I think worse advice is trying to flog a dead horse and hoping it will get up and carry you home.

      Had the OP suggested that the site had at one time been *on* the first page, even the second page I would approach this different.. but only as high as Pg 7... ever? OMG. What's the point?

      It's either poor keyword choice, poor target market choice, poor content choice, or poor seo strategy choice.

      If you can't at least get to page 1 or 2 in your first 2 -4 weeks (whether it "dances" or not later is irrelevent) - drop it an move on. That way it's only cost you a few bucks and few weeks of your time.

      Busines is about converting time into income - not wishes into wants.

      - Paul Barrs
      And this is a very assumptive statement. We don't even know how long the site has been live, and how much back linking, and other means of promotion have been given to it.

      fredjr1978, as has been suggested, continue to build high-quality backlinks to your site. If you have chosen your niche correctly and evaluated the competition on the first page, and concluded that a page one rank is reasonable, it's likely only a matter of time before your site gets pushed up the rankings once again.

      If it's still early days, ie. within a month or so, it's only normal to see rankings fluctuate somewhat randomly.

      As I've said though, if you've picked the right niche and targeted the right keywords, be patient, as free traffic in the long run will ultimately yield a higher ROI.
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      • Profile picture of the author ITOutsourcing
        One of my keywords It outsourcing has just fluctuated and back to Normal. So no need to worry
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