2nd on Google but no traffic...?

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Hey guys,

Im a fairly new member here but have been lurking the forums for the past couple of months.

I setup a wordpress blog about 2 weeks ago and currently its ranking 2nd on Google for its keyword. Sometimes it even ramps up and takesover the 1st position.

The keyword gets searched 1900/month (broad) and 1600/month (exact) as per google keyword tool .

However, I have no traffic whatsoever coming to the site. Not even 5 visitors. All the traffic which is about 50 visitors in total since the site was put up is through 4 articles I submitted to Ezine. But now thats even dead.

Any ideas?
#2nd #google #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author marketguy
    how long have you had no traffic?

    if it hasn't been long, just wait it out. it may be one of those "up and down" niches your in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Osman_M
    I put up the site and submitted the articles on the same day 2 weeks ago. Articles got approved within a week and then I saw 20 visitors over the next 2 days and from there on in it has just touched 50 visitors in total. Which I'm sure have come from the articles because thats the source google analytics is showing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ACPBen
    I agree, wait it out depending how long you've been without traffic?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
      What keyword tool did you use? Did you know there are many keyword tools out there that are totally off base?
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  • Profile picture of the author steveniam
    Since the traffic is about 50 per day, it would be difficult to get any traffic if there are sponsor ads above your fold.

    One of my site was recently the number one position in one niche which has a search volume of 2,200 a day however my weblog show there are less than 100 visitors. Reason: there are 3 sponsor ads above my site.
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    • Profile picture of the author RR111
      I agree with steveniam... Check out how many sponsor ads above in your listing. this is really mater.

      Originally Posted by steveniam View Post

      Since the traffic is about 50 per day, it would be difficult to get any traffic if there are sponsor ads above your fold.

      One of my site was recently the number one position in one niche which has a search volume of 2,200 a day however my weblog show there are less than 100 visitors. Reason: there are 3 sponsor ads above my site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Osman_M
    Im using Google keyword tool and as far I have read here on the forums thats probably the most accurate.

    I don't get 50 visitors/day, I HAVE gotten 50 visits in total in about 2 weeks time.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    When you check your ranking make sure to log out of your Google account first. Sometimes that throws the search counts off and makes it appear as if your site is ranking higher than it really is. Then if that doesn't give you the headsup to what is going on you should download Domain Samurai and see what kind of exact daily search counts are coming in. One way or the other something is off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Osman_M
    Yeah something is definitely of, I just don't know what. I have tried clearing all cookies, history and logged out as well. My site is till there. Tried different IP's as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author dhex
    -Don't trust GEKT data 100%. Its meant to give you IDEA not the exact amount of web search count.

    -You should also check if the keyword is seasonal.

    -To get a more accurate data try google search based keyword tool(SBKT). It seems to provide more accurate data. If you have another websites, you can verify how accurate SBKT is by comparing the data you get from Google webmaster tool to that of SBKT. Usually the data you get from GEKT is inflated because the data comes from Google search network which includes non search engine sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author David08
    I thing you have to article marketing, social bookmarking, because people always not using search engine also try to get first rank with other keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author emilio
    ranking 2nd on google in 2 weeks is a great thing, but it's an unstable position... I've ever had this situation and there is no traffic... as i wait for a couple of days then i found that the site is gone in no where...dont now why but that's the fact...so 2nd position google with new domain has no relation with traffic... cmiiw

    Originally Posted by Osman_M View Post

    Hey guys,

    Im a fairly new member here but have been lurking the forums for the past couple of months.

    I setup a wordpress blog about 2 weeks ago and currently its ranking 2nd on Google for its keyword. Sometimes it even ramps up and takesover the 1st position.

    The keyword gets searched 1900/month (broad) and 1600/month (exact) as per google keyword tool .

    However, I have no traffic whatsoever coming to the site. Not even 5 visitors. All the traffic which is about 50 visitors in total since the site was put up is through 4 articles I submitted to Ezine. But now thats even dead.

    Any ideas?
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  • Profile picture of the author JFVJ
    Have you check google webmaster tools? How much CTR do you have? And how many searches?
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  • Profile picture of the author mistermint
    I don't think GEKT is much use as so many people are using it..

    Try wordtracker's free tool and keep adding good content...

    I had one site at Goog nr 9 for a few months then I switched hosting and it's vanished in to thin air for some reason but, it's still nr 3 on yahoo.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by Osman_M View Post

      I setup a wordpress blog about 2 weeks ago and currently its ranking 2nd on Google for its keyword. Sometimes it even ramps up and takesover the 1st position.
      Hi Osman_M,

      First, I would double check that position, by going to Scroogle Scraper. It is possible that your Personal Web Search history has biased the SERP rankings. Logging out of your Google account no longer disables PWS.

      Originally Posted by Osman_M View Post

      The keyword gets searched 1900/month (broad) and 1600/month (exact) as per google keyword tool .
      Those numbers don't sound right, you will typically see 3-10 times the traffic from broad vs exact. I would double check the numbers and look for a possible data outlier situation. Check the monthly search volume trend, it often shows evidence of data outliers. Have someone you trust double check those number in GAKT, many folks have difficulty understanding the proper way to select exact match data.

      Originally Posted by Osman_M View Post

      However, I have no traffic whatsoever coming to the site. Not even 5 visitors. All the traffic which is about 50 visitors in total since the site was put up is through 4 articles I submitted to Ezine. But now thats even dead.

      Any ideas?
      I'd be willing to bet a week's wages that it's one of the items I mentioned above!

      Originally Posted by mistermint View Post

      I don't think GEKT is much use as so many people are using it..

      Try wordtracker's free tool and keep adding good content...

      I had one site at Goog nr 9 for a few months then I switched hosting and it's vanished in to thin air for some reason but, it's still nr 3 on yahoo.
      Hi mistermint,

      The GAKT is about as good as it gets, the problem is that folks often don't take the time to learn how to use it properly.

      If your site was simply copied and remained unchanged when you moved it to your new host I would suspect the host may have blocked the Googlebot from crawling your website. Add your site to your Google Webmaster Tools account and check the diagnostics.
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    • Profile picture of the author arizona1
      Originally Posted by mistermint View Post

      I don't think GEKT is much use as so many people are using it..

      Try wordtracker's free tool and keep adding good content...
      I agree. Google puts bad information out there for their own interests. Don't be evil. Ha.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rock Solid
    I know this may seem silly, but have you checked to see if the counter was properly installed? Sometimes I forget to re-ad analytics code after changing themes...
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovystar
    Does your site have a good summary thing on google? Like your meta description--is it nicely worded and appealing to what people want to see? Meta description is your chance to make your site have a nice "hook" to viewers on google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    Try searching through an anonymous proxy. If you have been checking your results often, or are logged into your Google analytics while searching, Google may remember what you were searching for and show it as #1 when in fact you could really be on page 2.
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  • Profile picture of the author Osman_M
    I have tried everything folks listed above, Im still in 2nd position. I have even gotten one of my friend to check from a totally different area and obviously a different IP, still the same result.

    About the exact search count being 1600 and broad being 1900, thats 100% from google keyword tool. When I was doing my keyword research I found that also astonishing but as I did more keyword research, I discovered many keywords that had big exact volume and also not too far away was the broad search count. So thats not a rarity, it just takes research and you will come across keywords like that.

    Analytics and webmaster tools are reporting the samething and both have there codes embedded in the site properly.

    This is something beyond me, I just don't understand. I will try altering my description to see what happens.
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    • Profile picture of the author Psnack
      Originally Posted by Osman_M View Post

      I have tried everything folks listed above, Im still in 2nd position. I have even gotten one of my friend to check from a totally different area and obviously a different IP, still the same result.
      Totally different area as in totally different country? If that's not the case try to search via a local proxy or alternatively use this tool: searchenginereports.net/

      I am ranked 3rd in google.com for any IP of my country, but if I search behind a US proxy I'm on the 5th page.
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  • Profile picture of the author crystal1
    May be you search with your google local type google dot com / NCR. and then look at where is your keyword located on google search engine ranking or may be the keyword competition is less.
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  • Profile picture of the author clairecooper223
    I have read that you can rank on the first page of Google for big KWs, but unless you are in the top 5, pref 3 then you might as well be on page 100. Most people only use the top 5, me personally normally get what I wanted with the first site alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Osman_M
    All the above criteria's have been practiced.

    @Clairecooper223 I'm in 2nd position. For my local search listing on google.ca, Im in the 1st position.
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  • Profile picture of the author rypher21
    thats possible to happen, you can rank for specific kw you have receiving less traffic...one reason maybe the kw your using is not that competitive or people rarely search for that term...
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  • Profile picture of the author parryfreelance
    Hi...

    who is the next than the google...??? meet again.
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  • Profile picture of the author EpicPerformance
    there is obviously a problem. It could be with the keyword you are targeting. If you need some advice send me a pm
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  • Profile picture of the author Osman_M
    Update:

    Have claimed spot #1 for my keyword but still the same result. Nothing to be proud of. I have been doing a lot reading and found many test keywords to see if people are actually typing them in.

    For example:
    -setup an ppc campaign
    -throw your keywords in
    -make an ad totally irrelevant to the keywords
    -check for impressions
    -if you got some then the keyword should be good to go

    Does that sound about right?
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  • Profile picture of the author ilikepie
    Did you checked dburk his post? He is posting what my first thoughts were. Many people forget the personal search results. If I were you I also would check the keyword tool again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
    Just a point worth checking where did your initial traffic come from ... Google or via Eza?

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author L41db4ck
      Originally Posted by Mangozoom View Post

      Just a point worth checking where did your initial traffic come from ... Google or via Eza?

      John
      Originally Posted by Osman_M View Post

      All the traffic which is about 50 visitors in total since the site was put up is through 4 articles I submitted to Ezine. But now thats even dead.

      Any ideas?
      Like he said
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      • Profile picture of the author L41db4ck
        Check the keyword again in the new keyword tool, I bet it's nowhere near 1600/month (exact)
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      • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
        Originally Posted by L41db4ck View Post

        Like he said
        Missed that sorry ...
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  • Profile picture of the author ernestcobb26
    unchanging accomplishment of SEO technique will give you superior, appropriate traffic through Google as well as other reliable sources.
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  • Profile picture of the author IndigoJack
    It's only been two weeks so give it some time however....

    Is anyone actually seeking you out?

    For example I could set up a blog - purplefluffywidgets.com about purple fluffy widgets and their usefulness for welding (not), I could have a FAQs page all about purple fluffy widgets and I could update my blog daily.

    Because I have put the work in, my place at the top of Google for a keyword search 'purple fluffy widgets' is guaranteed!

    But there actually has to be a market for my widgets for people to actually be typing-in that search - and then to want to visit my site because they are sooooo interested.

    Someone actually has to want what I'm offering.

    If you are at the top for months and no-one visits then, the answers obvious.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tommy Perez
      There are probably two reasons I can think of...

      1. Low search volume for your keywords to begin with.
      2. Search results are NOT the same everywhere. Which means, if you're ranked #1 or 2 in your home region...doesn't mean you rank the same elsewhere.

      And especially if you're using US-based search volume data...you may actually be ranked lower in the US than at home.
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  • Profile picture of the author vij
    I think I know the problem :p
    The keyword tool estimation is probably local to USA. Are you searching from within the US?
    Say, for India or Singapore the keyword phrase might in all probability be getting no more than 200 searches per month.

    To check your rank within US,
    Type in google.com/ncr
    Search for the keyword. Once it returns a result, go to the end of the url and add in &gl=us and refresh the page.
    (or)
    Use a US proxy.
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    • Profile picture of the author GoldRoyce
      Originally Posted by Psnack View Post

      Totally different area as in totally different country? If that's not the case try to search via a local proxy or alternatively use this tool: searchenginereports.net/

      I am ranked 3rd in google.com for any IP of my country, but if I search behind a US proxy I'm on the 5th page.
      I just want to say thanks for your link, searchenginereports.net, although the rank only based on US. I tried to compare with Google on my local have different rank with those in searchenginereports.net. But, thanks, I am very appreciated it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kakashi
    Same with me here...
    Tried to do the keyword research, but difficult get the "right keyword".
    That's why I've been looking for keyword researcher in this forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author JaxxTiom
    ya being logged into gmail can give a false high ranking

    Those keyword tools can be way off base at times. I would continue working on getting traffic for other keywords and work on promotion elsewhere. You might have yourself a keyword that just doesn't do well.

    And that would suck if you have a bunch of high sponsored listing ahead of your listing.
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  • Profile picture of the author DianeBrandt
    Have you tried registering with Google Webmaster Tools? It gives you some pretty good stats and you'll probably be able to identify the problem there.
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  • Profile picture of the author warner444
    The page title tag is what shows in Google as the first line of the results and the next 2 links almost always come from your "description" meta tag. Are those attractive words? Do they Sell the click? Do they offer a solution to the problem someone searching that term is having? Do they offer something someone searching that term would want? Do they motivate?

    That should help some. What is the keyword?

    Does your site suck? I am not saying that to insult you, but ask yourself that, your visitors do.

    The best way to test a keyword is to do adwords and track if it converts. No idea if you have the budget for that but it is proof. I use Market Samurai for most keyword research. The have a calculation for Phrase to Broad match percentage. Some terms show high in broad match but are not natural phrases anybody actually searches because the phrase match is very low. The show this as a percentage. I also evaluate keywords to use based on if people are paying high for them in adwords, which MS also shows. Sometimes I will check the traffic the sites ranking high for a term are getting in compete.com. I do see sometimes a term supposedly having thousands of searches a month and the #1 site is only getting a few hundred total.

    Keywords are also a reflection of a market so the better you understand any market the more likely you are to be able to see what it wants.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Blair
      I'm glad I came across this post and also feel like a dummy lol I wasn't even aware that the Google results could be skewed due to such issues. I was showing up being ranked on page one for a couple of keywords and haven't been getting the traffic I think I should expect either.

      I checked with Scroogle and I now have the answer. I'm actually ranked quite a bit lower than Google was showing me and alas am not getting the traffic I was expecting as such.

      There's always an answer, thank you for providing one for this particular problem for me.


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  • Profile picture of the author calhounevans
    In my opinion, they do not focus on optimizing service to create other links pages. You should focus on link building approach yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    Have you used the title which visitors are really looking for it from their search?
    I think the title of your page should be changed and replaced with a title which searchers are looking fro that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marketing Ignite
    The keyword gets searched 1900/month (broad) and 1600/month (exact) as per google keyword tool .
    The google keyword tool does not tell you the whole truth. When you use it, the statistics come from google affiliate search engines as well. So the number you see is actually smaller for both broad and exact. Also, you need to select a country as well. If you select worldwide you will also get scewed results because Google is not the same everywhere. If you search in australia, then google would bring up more australian sites compared to the US...

    Lastly, maybe you have written a poor title and description meta tag so that users are not so interested in your site. Consider reviewing this and make a compelling meta description and title...this is a BIG key to get ppl click on your listing compared to the rest...

    I hope that helped you some..
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    • Profile picture of the author antonisid
      Originally Posted by Marketing Ignite View Post

      The google keyword tool does not tell you the whole truth. When you use it, the statistics come from google affiliate search engines as well. So the number you see is actually smaller for both broad and exact.
      Can you give me an example foy keywords "greek ionian" ? The result at United Kingdom is 2900 searches/month .From your expirience how much smaller it can be this number?
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  • Profile picture of the author disolmodo78
    I think you were focused upon the other off page optimization services for earning backlinks. It is advisable to avail link building strategy of SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author mistermint
      Hi mistermint,

      The GAKT is about as good as it gets, the problem is that folks often don't take the time to learn how to use it properly.

      If your site was simply copied and remained unchanged when you moved it to your new host I would suspect the host may have blocked the Googlebot from crawling your website. Add your site to your Google Webmaster Tools account and check the diagnostics.
      Hi Dburk,

      Sorry I missed your comment..the site did bounce back..thanks!

      With any new site the first place I put it is stumbleupon..I've found good and instant traffic from it and it helps to get indexed fast..

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  • Profile picture of the author disolmodo78
    I think constant implementation of efficient SEO techniques will surely help you out. It will drive relevant traffic through Google and other search engines.
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  • Have you considered your page titles? Titles also have effect on visitors deciding on the web page to visit. Other web pages may be having catchy titles better than yours. Hence, they will always get the traffic. Compare your titles to those of others
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  • Profile picture of the author atrbiz
    If you have low search volume for that keyword and your on the second page. I'm not surprised that your not getting any traffic, you'll need to be on page 1 to get any traffic considering it has low search volume.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjedda63
      GKT has fooled me too, in the beginning of my IM startup. I never rely on those numbers when checking keywords. Only PPC shows the real potential of a keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author lotre
    for every 100 visitors you get, if one buys that is a 15 CTR(click thorugh rate). the CTR you will get depends on what market you are in and lots of other factors, but you can only expect sales when you have had enough visitors to 'make a sale'. So if you ove only had 50 visits then dont expect any sales yet as ou ve not had enough people see your site.
    A 1% minimum CTR is what you should expect -unless you are making a big profit each sale
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    You might be top of Google, but if no one is searching for your keyword, the traffic will not come, it could also depend on the seasonal traffic, certain sites differ in terms of traffic based on the seasons, or it could be you might be viwewing the search results when logged in to your Adwords account, that tends to give misleading placements
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  • Profile picture of the author jesus72knight
    Rankings are negated if traffic is very poor thus giving you poor conversions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjustin
    try targeting a different keyword or check your webmaster tools for on-page problems

    or your tracker may have a problem
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Weiler
    Check the result on a multiple Google data center search and make sure you are getting accurate results. I have a hard time believing that much traffic is going by you with no flow to your site. I know that results can be skewed but they are still a reflection of real traffic. You should be getting at least 5 visitors a day to your site.

    I also agree that your Meta description should not just be keyword loaded it is your opportunity to entice traffic onto your site.

    Lastly if there is a good bit of traffic #1 will land you over 3x the traffic that #2 lands
    you. Before you write this keyword off see what you can get from a #1 rank and make
    sure your analytics on the site is working. You can test the analytics by going to your site from several IP addresses and logging the number of hits to the site against at least
    ten different IP addressees.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author marksmandweller
    I think you have covered other optimization services page to gain backlinks. It is advisable to use the SEO link building strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author marksmandweller
    In my personal experience, I think Google is the best if traffic growth. You can also rely on Yahoo and MSN, the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author alextuder
    Originally Posted by Osman_M View Post

    Hey guys,

    Im a fairly new member here but have been lurking the forums for the past couple of months.

    I setup a wordpress blog about 2 weeks ago and currently its ranking 2nd on Google for its keyword. Sometimes it even ramps up and takesover the 1st position.

    The keyword gets searched 1900/month (broad) and 1600/month (exact) as per google keyword tool .

    However, I have no traffic whatsoever coming to the site. Not even 5 visitors. All the traffic which is about 50 visitors in total since the site was put up is through 4 articles I submitted to Ezine. But now thats even dead.

    Any ideas?
    TO be frank, 1900/month (broad) and 1600/month (exact) is very very less. If you divide it by 30. u get nearly 30 searches / day..... Can u still except "Traffic" .

    I would advice you to increase your "kw base". Can u tell me what are your kw's??
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  • Profile picture of the author joesmith1608
    Do article posting,press release,classified,book marking ,yahoo answering etc.I am sure you will get good traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author marksmandweller
    A site has recently been the number one in a niche market, which has a search volume of 2200 days, however, my blog seems to be less than 100 visitors. Reason: 3 sponsor ads on the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidtakson
    I think you were focused upon the other off page optimization services for earning backlinks. It is advisable to avail link building strategy of SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidtakson
    I think constant implementation of efficient SEO techniques will surely help you out. It will drive relevant traffic through Google and other search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author bollinger
    Ya I am going also thinking that the sponsored ads could be stealing your traffic. I know that I tend to ignore sponsored ads when performing searches normally. If the search results aren't what I needed, then I start looking at the ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author GrowTallerNiche
    As others have said sponsored ads. It depends on whether your searchers are internet novices or not and whether the sponsored ads answer the question so to speak.

    How tech savvy is your niche(how often do you think your niche uses the internet)?
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  • Profile picture of the author IsraelAlarid
    Google is like that... they change algorithms so much that it is nearly impossible to keep a site SEOd. I call it: job security for SEO companies. hehe.
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  • Profile picture of the author amrish2338
    Getting good search engine ranking is not sure that you will get traffic
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