My thoughts about duplicate content/articles.

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Hey guys. First off, let you to know english isn´t my primary language, so I´ll try to make this the more legible possible, and please excuse me if I don´t fully achieve it.
I´ve been reading a lot about duplicate articles and how to avoid it. I looked at every spinner and rewriters you can find in the net and read a lot of "theories" about how search engines detect them and qualify them for duplicate or not.
And, my conclussion is...nobody actually certainly know how the search engine´s algorythm works, which is vital for us. We need to "think" like the engines do if we want to give them what they like. Everybody has his own idea about this, some people will say that replacing words in a medium to high percentage will get the job done. That´s why a bunch of spinners doin this exist in the market.
But, while searching this issue, I came across with something on a site I don´t remember, that I think it´s the best approach on how Google and others dup detection softwares think. If this is true (I´m pretty sure it is),
99% of spinners out there are useless:
I´ll graphic this idea with a real life example:

You have a good friend. Obviously you know him and you are able to recognize him instantly if you see him walking down the street at a medium to close distance, right?
Now, did you think that this happens in any circumstances? I mean, notice that no matter what colors or clothes he is wearing, if it´s winter and he´s wearing a thick jacket or it´s summer and you find him in swimswit, if he´s wearing sunglasses or a hat, or whatever he is wearing. If thinking on a woman, you will also recognize her if she is wearing some heavy make up or with a new hair style!.

This is what happens with search engines. You can change all the words you want, (different color shirts or different makeup) but they will still recognize the content because they see (like we do with our friend) the WHOLE PICTURE. They look at the entire context of an article and find the "footprints" you left, they are, not the words you changed but the ones you DIDN´T change. Your friend´s face and body type are always the same, no matter what they wear or the makeup they use. Unless they go thru a heavy esthetical surgery or lose or gain 100 pound of weight, you will keep recognizing them easily.
Look. If you spin an article, you can then erase the spun words from the original and their synonyms from the spun version, so only the non touched words remain in both versions. Those are your footprints, along with the number of paragraps and word count. If You have those same footprint words in the same order than the original in your spun version, search engines wil rapidly recognize them. You can´t obtain this type of similarity unless the two articles are using the exact same "seed".

Just my though. Anybody agrees with me?
#articles marketing #content or articles #duplicate #rewritter #spinner #thoughts
  • Your thoughts don't matter, neither do mine.

    Google doesn't penalize it filters.

    Google finds duplicate content then it decides how to rank it The same content can not all occupy the same ranking space.

    It's that simple.

    Google will rank whomever it feels has the most authority and relevance.

    You don't need to know the algorithm to understand that.
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    • Profile picture of the author chris casab
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post

      Your thoughts don't matter, neither do mine.

      Google doesn't penalize it filters.

      Google finds duplicate content then it decides how to rank it The same content can not all occupy the same ranking space.

      It's that simple.

      Google will rank whomever it feels has the most authority and relevance.

      You don't need to know the algorithm to understand that.
      Sorry, but you misunderstud me. Those of us who use PLR articles need to rewrite or "spin" them before publishing in order to not being rejected by the article directories for duplicate if we want to publish in them, and also to pass google´s duplicate content filter if you want to rank well in search engins. So, there´s no doubt we need to rewrite them, you agree? Ok, what I said is that people are rewriting based on a wrong concept about HOW google detects the dup content, and, that simply changing words for synonyms isn´t enough to get the job done. Because that isn´t the way google uses to detect the dup. That´s why it IS important to understand HOW google´s soft works (the algorythm), this way we can avoid wasting money on softwares that won´t work for what we want them, that is in the first term, pass google´s dup filter.
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    • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post

      Your thoughts don't matter, neither do mine.

      Google doesn't penalize it filters.

      Google finds duplicate content then it decides how to rank it The same content can not all occupy the same ranking space.

      It's that simple.

      Google will rank whomever it feels has the most authority and relevance.

      You don't need to know the algorithm to understand that.
      Absolutely, dupe content is not a problem on an established domain. It is a big problem for a new site though, if you want it to rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author flipfl0p
    SO this means I need to submit different articles to 60 articledirectory's that I have?? Is that your point?

    or do you think that I can submit 1 article in 60 different directories?
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    • Profile picture of the author chris casab
      Originally Posted by grantdenz22 View Post

      SO this means I need to submit different articles to 60 articledirectory's that I have?? Is that your point?

      or do you think that I can submit 1 article in 60 different directories?
      I didn´t want to mean none of those, I was talking about how I thing to google catches the duplicate content.
      By the way, on respect to your answer, it´s better to submit many different versions, each one to a different directory, and if they are pretty different and unique one from each other and mainly from the original seed article, you may hopefuly end up with 60 or so effective backlinks to your site. The directories won´t accept the same or duplicate article other directoy has. They check carefully for uniqueness before accepting your article.
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      • Profile picture of the author flipfl0p
        I think the answer to your questions and confusions lies here in this thread.
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/95391-article-site-eza-first-2.html
        ***READ THE WHOLE THREAD FROM THE START

        Read everything and you will learn everything about articles. 8 Senior war room members pointing out the same thing.
        These guys are real pro's not like any of us that beleives what some preacher tell us and didn't see the best ways about Articles.

        It says there that you can do anything with your article it only depends on your target.

        1. You can submit the "same article" to 60 article directories if you target only Backlinks

        **Duplicate content only if your website copied an article from any other website/directory/etc. but that doesn't mean you will not rank nor google will punish you(its a myth according to the thread). First paste it in your site then submit it to article directories. Google will see the article(in the article directory) as duplicate content but will still give you backlinks.

        **Google will penalize you for duplicate content If you publish THE SAME ARTICLE IN YOUR OWN WEBSITE. (two copies of 1 article posted in www.yourdomain.com/article1 and www.yourdomain.com/article2) Google will punish you for this simply because you are posting the same article which can give you rankings(keyword rankings).

        2. You can submit "spun articles" to 60 article directories so that your articles have a BIG change to get picked by publishers. This will give you huge amount of traffic from different sites and the article that the publisher got from you will give you link juice as well.
        *** So this means that if you spun your article that isn't READABLE TO HUMANS then there is NO use Spinning your articles.

        So it doesn't matter if you send the same article or spun article to the directories. What only matters is "what is your target" and "what do you want to happen WITH YOUR articles"...

        Hope this helps and please don't take this as a compliment for your post I just want to help the same way this forum helped me. And If you still want to do the thing you are doing please do so.. I will not stop you because there is no sense in doing that and there is no sense trying to fight for some rumors that you want to prove or anything like that. I just want to help that's it no offense done. :rolleyes:

        My final word. Try everything that you see is fit. Then sooner or later you will get some experience to do things the right way or if it is the right way then you also learned. peace guys:rolleyes:
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