Time To Clear Some Internet Marketing Myths!

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There has been many marketing myths and misconceptions that the so called "gurus" (won't mention names) have been circulating online for several years now, and they are all lies.

Who am I?

I am the proud owner of several websites that have phenomenal rankings in Google.

One of my newest websites YoungJeezyLoseMyMind.com is currently on the 2nd page of Google for the keyword "Young Jeezy" (without quotes) with a competition of over 4,500,000 and has 7,500+ backlinks.

Did I mention that the site is less than 1 month old?

I used Scrapebox to build the backlinks to my website.

Another one of my websites has over 130,000+ backlinks and is currently ranking for very competitive keywords such as "Hip Hop Songs" (without quotes) 2nd position, "Top Hip Hop Songs" (without quotes) 3rd position, "Hip Hop Music" (without quotes) 10th position, etc.

The website is ThatKush.com

I have several websites making me money, and so my advice and tips are not bias since I'm not selling other marketers marketing information like almost all the "gurus" out there. (Most marketers make money selling you false information on how to make money)

So I have a lot of personal experience with ranking my websites on the first pages of the search engines with a No-Mercy Mentality.

Now let's clear up some Myths and Misconceptions:

Myth 1: No-Follow Links Are Worthless

-This is absolutely false and is spread around so that you don't get the rankings that you deserve by making you get very picky with your backlink marketing.

All backlinks are "Votes" to your website, some just carry more "Voting" weight than others. So a high page rank website linking to you will carry more weight with its vote than a lower page rank website. A do-follow backlink will carry more weight with its vote than a no-follow backlink, etc.

But at the end of the day it's ALL about how many VOTES your site has.

Myth 2: Building Too Many Backlinks Will Get Your Site Deindexed

-This is once again false. If you build too many backlinks at once, the only potential "harm" that can be done is if a worker of Google itself notices your site and it's full of spammy, non-unique, etc. content then they might remove it from their search engine. What are the chances of that happening? Slim to None.

I've built 7,500+ backlinks to my Young Jeezy website within 3 weeks and I'm ranking better than ever. I also know MANY other websites doing this as well and getting phenomenal rankings.

Google won't deindex your website based on backlinks because if that was the case, then everybody would build backlinks to the "new" competitors' websites to get them all deindexed. You will get deindex if your website is crap AND if it's found by a worker of the search engines itself.

Myth 3: Get A Backlink From Relevant Websites

-Once again this is not true, you can get backlinks from any type of website and it will still count as a "vote" to your website.

The reason "relevancy" is good is because it will give you the Theme Factor (LSI Related) weight, so the "vote" is a bit more.

Ex. Your website is related to dog training, and you get a backlink from a dog training website, so the backlink now has more weight because the overall theme of the backlink's site is related to your keyword via the LSI relevancy.

However, you can get backlinks from Anywhere!

Myth 4: Certain Backlinks Can Get You Banned

-This is simply not true. The only way your site can be banned via "backlinks" is if You are linking to websites that Google doesn't like because it thinks that the site is spammy or poor quality.

If certain backlinks could get you banned, then everyone would build backlinks to their competitors to ban them, and that is simply not the case.

Myth 5: Duplicate Content Will Get You Banned

-There's some truth to this, and therefore, you shouldn't just copy/paste content onto your website (hence why most autoblogs fail), But if you use video embeds like my website ThatKush.com then that's not duplicate. Duplicate Penalty can happen if you just simply copy and paste almost all of your site's contents from other websites.

If you are using duplicate content for your entire site, then you are asking to potentially be banned because you are taking the "lazy" way out without making your website stand out in some shape or form.

This is it for now, if you have questions, please don't pm me unless it's absolute necessary. I prefer you ask the questions in this thread.

PS. If you are going to visit ThatKush.com then use Google Chrome or Firefox Mozilla with Popup Blocker. Don't use Internet Explorer (IE), since there are several monetization methods being used on ThatKush.com including popups, popunders, sliding banners, etc. since I'm making money per CPM, since 3,000+ visitors are going to the site daily. You don't want your browser to crash for some reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Webster
    Thank you for a very informative and good post that covers some very important issues

    And we should all remember that it can never be a bad thing getting links… Because otherwise you would be able to control/spam other sites down the rankings on Google and that wouldn’t be good!
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    • Profile picture of the author David Neale
      Well it's controversial but I agree with what you say. There is another thread going on here where every SEO pro is stating that "no-follow" has no effect on SE rankings for Google. I believe Matt Cutts has been pretty clear about this.

      That said, and based on some recent SEO battles I believe some "no-follow" links are beneficial to ranking well in Google. Example:

      I am currently working with a client that is doing very well for most of his keywords but there is a competitor that is doing better. When analyzing his back links he has many "no-follow" links by commenting on a popular Blog. It's one of the primary differences in our campaigns... shouldn't make much difference.

      Coincidentally what is that Blog he comments at regularly? Why that would be one Matt Cutts.

      Sometimes you have to just go with what you see not by what everybody says... including Google.

      I'm most definitely not 100% convinced yet but I do have my suspicions and will be adding some Blog comments from prominent Blogs even if they are "no-follow"
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      • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
        Originally Posted by David Neale View Post

        Well it's controversial but I agree with what you say. There is another thread going on here where every SEO pro is stating that "no-follow" has no effect on SE rankings for Google. I believe Matt Cutts has been pretty clear about this.

        That said, and based on some recent SEO battles I believe some "no-follow" links are beneficial to ranking well in Google. Example:

        I am currently working with a client that is doing very well for most of his keywords but there is a competitor that is doing better. When analyzing his back links he has many "no-follow" links by commenting on a popular Blog. It's one of the primary differences in our campaigns... shouldn't make much difference.

        Coincidentally what is that Blog he comments at regularly? Why that would be one Matt Cutts.

        Sometimes you have to just go with what you see not by what everybody says... including Google.

        I'm most definitely not 100% convinced yet but I do have my suspicions and will be adding some Blog comments from prominent Blogs even if they are "no-follow"
        My marketing strategy is parallel to that of what adult webmasters do, since adult webmasters are ahead of the game.

        If you go into Google and type in "sex" (without quotes), you'll see the website freesexvideos2k.com

        The webmaster is using the exact strategies that I am, and it works fantastic.

        No-follow, Do-follow, relevant, non-relevant, etc. it's all a "vote" to your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    ne of my newest websites YoungJeezyLoseMyMind.com is currently on the 2nd page of Google for the keyword "Young Jeezy"..........

    Erm no on Google.com or Google.co.uk its not.

    Thatkush, yep its there, good work, there is a lot of decent looking links for that. However those sorts of links have not appeared overnight and you have had that domain about three years?

    I sort of disagree with you on nofollow. I don't think they carry less "weight", they do not pass trust or page ranks. MY testing has found they do add to topical relevance and co-citation though, but are not the same as followed links at some sort of lower level as you seem to imply.

    The rest is generally correct, although I reckon you would get more replies if you had posted it to the correct forum, but hey looking at the post I guess you just had to get it off your chest.
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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      ne of my newest websites YoungJeezyLoseMyMind.com is currently on the 2nd page of Google for the keyword "Young Jeezy"..........

      Erm no on Google.com or Google.co.uk its not.

      Thatkush, yep its there, good work, there is a lot of decent looking links for that. However those sorts of links have not appeared overnight and you have had that domain about three years?

      I sort of disagree with you on nofollow. I don't think they carry less "weight", they do not pass trust or page ranks. MY testing has found they do add to topical relevance and co-citation though, but are not the same as followed links at some sort of lower level as you seem to imply.

      The rest is generally correct, although I reckon you would get more replies if you had posted it to the correct forum, but hey looking at the post I guess you just had to get it off your chest.
      Young Jeezy, I'm on the 2nd page for my website, I've already confirmed it with several fellow marketers.

      Over 100,000+ backlinks of ThatKush.com were built over the course of 2 months.
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    • Profile picture of the author J Bold
      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      ne of my newest websites YoungJeezyLoseMyMind.com is currently on the 2nd page of Google for the keyword "Young Jeezy"..........

      Erm no on Google.com or Google.co.uk its not.

      Erm yes it is. You're wrong.

      But we know that if you do not turn off web history on Google this will affect the rankings you see. Or even by IP address history (maybe).

      Also, no matter where you are, sometimes you see different results depending on where you're physically located, again because of your IP.

      To check his rankings without all that stuff possibly coming it play, use scroogle.org. But I searched in my own browser and scroogle.org and his site was indeed on the 2nd page.
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      • Profile picture of the author jazbo
        Not for me it wasn't. You assume all google searches are identical.

        Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

        I went to Google.com and it was number 4. Easy to find.

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        • Profile picture of the author james7
          Nice explanation about Internet Marketing Myths. But I disagree on some points like nofollow. Because Google not consider nofollow as backlink and it stopped there only. Other search engine cosider nofollow as backlink.
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  • Profile picture of the author sparrow
    Isn't scrape box commenting software, RSS feed aggregators, trackbacks and referrer logs?

    Is this all you do for your linking or do you use other methods.

    I noticed you said this site is only 1 month old, normally sites go up in rankings and do the Google dance as Google starts filtering sites at later dates.

    I wonder how much staying power this technique has.

    Very interesting observation.

    Thanks for your feed back.

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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by sparrow View Post

      Isn't scrape box commenting software, RSS feed aggregators, trackbacks and referrer logs?

      Is this all you do for your linking or do you use other methods.

      I noticed you said this site is only 1 month old, normally sites go up in rankings and do the Google dance as Google starts filtering sites at later dates.

      I wonder how much staying power this technique has.

      Very interesting observation.

      Thanks for your feed back.

      Ed
      The Google Dance lasts about 3-5 days, and YoungJeezyLoseMyMind.com has been ranking in that position (getting better) for about 7 days straight now, so it's not a Google Dance.

      For my website Young Jeezy, I only used Scrapebox for the links.

      There's several other websites that are doing exactly what I'm doing, and they are ranking VERY WELL for keyterms like "sex", "bondage", etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by MeghanK View Post

      I just went to one of those sites... it might not have been yours... but it's in the placement you said and got a popunder that crashed my browser

      I lost a lot of important info
      There are several monetization methods being used on ThatKush.com and I don't recommend checking out the site with IE.

      If you do check out ThatKush.com (the site itself by clicking on it in the search engines) use Google Chrome or Mozilla with popup blockers.

      I'm getting paid per CPM, so I implemented several methods to make money with the site, since it's getting over 3,000+ visitors per day.
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          Originally Posted by MeghanK View Post

          edit your OP so you don't crash anyone else's browsers please
          I added it to the bottom of my original post.

          Thanks for bringing it up.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gary King
        Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

        There are several monetization methods being used on ThatKush.com and I don't recommend checking out the site with IE.

        WHAT?

        Thanks for the warning to Warriors, but dude, you're missing a huge point here...

        Love it or hate it, the number of Internet Explorer users is HUGE.

        Why on Earth would you put monetization techniques on a site THAT YOU KNOW will crash the browser of most of your visitors???

        Unless you are getting paid to display x number of things regardless of click rate, it makes no sense to crash their browser - There's NO chance I would come back to your site if it crashed my browser and I would be ticked off to boot.

        Why would you intentionally alienate a market that some stats put at more than 50% of visitors?
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        • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
          Originally Posted by Gary King View Post

          WHAT?

          Thanks for the warning to Warriors, but dude, you're missing a huge point here...

          Love it or hate it, the number of Internet Explorer users is HUGE.

          Why on Earth would you put monetization techniques on a site THAT YOU KNOW will crash the browser of most of your visitors???

          Unless you are getting paid to display x number of things regardless of click rate, it makes no sense to crash their browser - There's NO chance I would come back to your site if it crashed my browser and I would be ticked off to boot.

          Why would you intentionally alienate a market that some stats put at more than 50% of visitors?
          Only 13.81% of my visitors use IE. Firefox and Chrome are at about 75% combined now.

          This is probably also a function of your niche.

          If you market to a tech crowd, they probably have up-to-date browsers.

          If you are selling an e-book on basket weaving, your visitors may not have the latest and greatest browser.
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          • Profile picture of the author Gary King
            Originally Posted by thebitbotdotcom View Post

            Only 13.81% of my visitors use IE. Firefox and Chrome are at about 75% combined now.

            This is probably also a function of your niche.

            If you market to a tech crowd, they probably have up-to-date browsers.

            If you are selling an e-book on basket weaving, your visitors may not have the latest and greatest browser.
            Agreed it does depend on your audience.

            One of my primary markets is tech - computer oriented (corporate IT) in fact. They swing way into the IE range believe it or not.

            The browser stats sites listed by Teravel in the post above http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2527496 show a swing in percentages as expected, but even alienating 10%, 20%, etc. or as much as half of the visitors is whack.

            I'm guessing it's what I implied and christopherNV says - it doesn't matter if people come back.

            Originally Posted by christopherNV View Post

            He's running CPM ads. I don't think he cares if visitors ever comeback or if their browsers crash. He only needs impressions to make money, not clicks or sales.
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    Yeah - it's funny what you see some people saying and quoting as fact. But not so funny when you see newbies struggling to get started because they're paralyzed by all the information and don't even get to work doing simple things that help.

    I'm not into the Us and Them thing and I think people need to take responsibility for their own business and actions, but there is a lot of misinformation around and the only cure is to test things yourself and do what works for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author mnonline
    so you using scrapebox for linking? How's that work?
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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by mnonline View Post

      so you using scrapebox for linking? How's that work?
      The entire process takes about 4-6 hours, but about 15 minutes of actual work, sometimes even less like 5 minutes.

      You use 10 private proxies, scrape with the wonder wheel feature to get 100,000+ websites (1-2 hours), and you comment on them (2-3 hours)

      I comment on about 250,000 sites per week.

      So I get about 3,000 - 5,000 backlinks per week, since most of the 250k are not indexed, submitted 100%, removed, etc.
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    Cool, thanks for clearing all that up. There is so much conflicting info out there, I appreciate your help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
    Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

    PS. If you are going to visit ThatKush.com then use Google Chrome or Firefox Mozilla with Popup Blocker. Don't use Internet Explorer (IE), since there are several monetization methods being used on ThatKush.com including popups, popunders, sliding banners, etc. since I'm making money per CPM, since 3,000+ visitors are going to the site daily. You don't want your browser to crash for some reason.
    This just doesn't seem right to me. So, I did a few searches on Google for the most commonly used Web Browsers and found a few links to share. I am in no way affiliated with any of these links, they are purely for information. Also, I know that these stats will vary from site to site. But, looking at it from a "average" stand-point, you are hurting yourself more than helping.

    Let's say that ThatKush.com is getting 3,000+ visitors each day. Depending on your visitors (Which will change each day), 30-75% of them have a hard time loading the homepage of your website, and as MeghanK, some of those visitors are having crashed browsers.

    Doing some simple math, 30-75% of 3,000 is 900 - 2250 of your visitors aren't even getting to your site, or are having a hard time with it. Personally, when I have a hard time loading a page (Unless it is one that I use often, such as the Warrior Forums), I leave. If 30-75% of your visitors aren't making it to your page simply because your website isn't IE Friendly, you are basically shooting yourself in the foot.

    Here are a few of the links I found showing the 2010 estimated Browser Usage.

    Browser Statistics
    Usage share of web browsers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    W3Counter - Global Web Stats

    Later in the thread, you say that there are "Adult Web-Masters" that are using this tactic, and ranking well using words such as "Sex" and "Bondage". I have two major questions for this...

    1) Your comment of "Adult Web Masters" instinctively turns me away from your post. Simply because you are saying that if people don't use your tactic, they aren't adults. You can be successful in Internet Marketing without using YOUR tactic, and lots of people have proven so.

    2) How do you know that the owners of these websites ranking for Sex and Bondage, are using the same promotional tactics as you are? How can you be sure they aren't using any of the other infinite possibilities for promoting their websites?

    Don't get me wrong. The information you pointed out about Back-Links and No-Follow I agree with. The information about your own sites is what makes me think twice.

    My suggestion for anyone reading this, or any other post on the WF for that matter, is to take it as Suggestion Only!!
    Why? Because you can only rely on what you have tried and tested. Everything will vary from person to person, and from website to website. Do your own testing to see what works and what doesn't. If you take all the information at the WF as law, you will only fail to achieve your goals.

    ~ Teravel

    P.S. Nothing personal to the Original Poster. There were just too many holes for me not to comment, so I felt I had to put it out there. If your website is getting 3,000+ a day, and your making money, Congratulation!
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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by Teravel View Post

      This just doesn't seem right to me. So, I did a few searches on Google for the most commonly used Web Browsers and found a few links to share. I am in no way affiliated with any of these links, they are purely for information. Also, I know that these stats will vary from site to site. But, looking at it from a "average" stand-point, you are hurting yourself more than helping.

      Let's say that ThatKush.com is getting 3,000+ visitors each day. Depending on your visitors (Which will change each day), 30-75% of them have a hard time loading the homepage of your website, and as MeghanK, some of those visitors are having crashed browsers.

      Doing some simple math, 30-75% of 3,000 is 900 - 2250 of your visitors aren't even getting to your site, or are having a hard time with it. Personally, when I have a hard time loading a page (Unless it is one that I use often, such as the Warrior Forums), I leave. If 30-75% of your visitors aren't making it to your page simply because your website isn't IE Friendly, you are basically shooting yourself in the foot.

      Here are a few of the links I found showing the 2010 estimated Browser Usage.

      Browser Statistics
      Usage share of web browsers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      W3Counter - Global Web Stats

      Later in the thread, you say that there are "Adult Web-Masters" that are using this tactic, and ranking well using words such as "Sex" and "Bondage". I have two major questions for this...

      1) Your comment of "Adult Web Masters" instinctively turns me away from your post. Simply because you are saying that if people don't use your tactic, they aren't adults. You can be successful in Internet Marketing without using YOUR tactic, and lots of people have proven so.

      2) How do you know that the owners of these websites ranking for Sex and Bondage, are using the same promotional tactics as you are? How can you be sure they aren't using any of the other infinite possibilities for promoting their websites?

      Don't get me wrong. The information you pointed out about Back-Links and No-Follow I agree with. The information about your own sites is what makes me think twice.

      My suggestion for anyone reading this, or any other post on the WF for that matter, is to take it as Suggestion Only!!
      Why? Because you can only rely on what you have tried and tested. Everything will vary from person to person, and from website to website. Do your own testing to see what works and what doesn't. If you take all the information at the WF as law, you will only fail to achieve your goals.

      ~ Teravel

      P.S. Nothing personal to the Original Poster. There were just too many holes for me not to comment, so I felt I had to put it out there. If your website is getting 3,000+ a day, and your making money, Congratulation!
      I see where you are coming from, and here's a few add ons and clarifications.

      When I say "Adult Webmasters", I'm not referring to a "child / adult" figure, I'm referring to Webmasters who run ADULT content on their websites such as sex, etc.

      I know the owners are doing what I'm doing because they've commented on the same places I've commented on, and I've even scraped their backlinks with scrapebox. (They use xrumer and scrapebox)

      The average visitor time on my website from Aug 1 to Aug 27 has been 1 minute and 7 seconds, which is long enough for me to make money via CPM.

      The average time for August 27 was 56 seconds.

      It is a Hip Hop related music video website, so there are no "selling" products, etc. hence why money comes from CPM.

      Also, the bounce rate is 49% which is pretty good for this niche market.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheAnnoyingOrange
      Originally Posted by Teravel View Post

      1) Your comment of "Adult Web Masters" instinctively turns me away from your post. Simply because you are saying that if people don't use your tactic, they aren't adults. You can be successful in Internet Marketing without using YOUR tactic, and lots of people have proven so.

      Dude, you misinterpreted the whole meaning of 'adult'. It is not the literal sense of an 'adult', he is talking about 'adult' material. Adult web masters are those who supply X-rated material to others via their website.

      Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
    Somebody showed me something like what your saying a few weeks ago but I just thought that he's BS-ing me, but your post seems to back that up.

    The website that I saw was just a couple of months old, selling viagra type stuff, and had more then 10k links done with xrumer and scrapebox...what I don't get is how do they manage to index so many of them?

    Also regarding the adult industry/webmasters I tend to agree with you...because of the extreme competition in that market they tend to be ahead of the game in some areas. (think free trials)
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  • Profile picture of the author Alchemium
    IE has less and less market share. I guess the average Internet user gets more and more educated :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary King
      Originally Posted by Alchemium View Post

      IE has less and less market share. I guess the average Internet user gets more and more educated :-)
      lol

      Not trumpeting the IE cause (not my main browser either), just noting that unless you don't care their browser crashes or aren't POSITIVE of your visitor's usage, you gotta make sure you support their browser.

      Last time I checked, I liked getting money from IE users, FireFox users, Chrome users and just about any other browser's users too.
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    I sure everyone remembers a site busted for selling knock off ugz boots, ranked # 1 in searches and it had x amount of chinese forum backlinks to rank #1.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    Google's market share is ever so slowly decreasing too...regardless, IE still has the majority of the marketshare in browsers, like Google does in search, regardless of the decreasing trend.
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  • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
    37.51% of my visitors use IE, but it doesn't crash everyones' windows.

    Several other marketers I network with have used IE, and they got onto the site fine, so it depends on other factors as well like popup blockers, privacy settings, etc.
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    Thanks for the post. Very useful info.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Patterson
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    Umm..dude your site is on page 45!!!

    If it ever was on page 2 then its not anymore...what happened? google slapped big time!

    Slow and steady wins the race!

    Take notes Noobs and learners..blasting out links to new sites may get you a big jump but its temporary cuz when google checks out your site you will get google slapped and sent down to oblivion or worse deindexed.
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    • Profile picture of the author wtc
      Originally Posted by Michael Patterson View Post

      Umm..dude your site is on page 45!!!

      If it ever was on page 2 then its not anymore...what happened? google slapped big time!

      Slow and steady wins the race!

      Take notes Noobs and learners..blasting out links to new sites may get you a big jump but its temporary cuz when google checks out your site you will get google slapped and sent down to oblivion or worse deindexed.
      Iunno, I thought the whole point here was that as long as your site's decent, it'll be fine even if a human employee checks your site out?
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  • Profile picture of the author shaktimaan
    Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

    One of my newest websites YoungJeezyLoseMyMind.com is currently on the 2nd page of Google for the keyword "Young Jeezy" (without quotes) with a competition of over 4,500,000 and has 7,500+ backlinks.
    The page that has 8,128 links according to yahoo site explorer not ranking at all for even young jeezy lose my mind. It seems like your home page has been filtered out as spam.
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      finally someone that answers all the myths in one post so I dont have to keep answering them over and over. Why are these myths even spread around its ridiculous in the first place. Good job thanks for the post.
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  • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
    My young jeezy website is doing Google Dance, so its rankings will come back better than ever.

    This happened 2 weeks ago as well when I went to page 15, then came and ranked on page 2 a few days later.
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    • Profile picture of the author pcsmarketing
      Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

      My young jeezy website is doing Google Dance, so its rankings will come back better than ever.

      This happened 2 weeks ago as well when I went to page 15, then came and ranked on page 2 a few days later.
      Sorry dude, but it doesnt look like its doing a dance. Its not appearing anywhere when i do a search.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevL
    Where is your site for young jeezy now? I've just searched pretty deep for it, it's not ranked within the first 10 pages, so if that's a dance it's a pretty long dance! Looks like a google slapdown to me, not a google waltz

    I'm not going to bother arguing with each one of your points, but in my opinion from my own results, they're pretty much all completely wrong - and if anyone acts accordingly after reading this post, they do so at their peril!

    Like I say - this is my opinion only, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying it's my opinion that you're wrong.

    Your methods appear to be black hat, (or should I say bluefart, lol) and you seem to have little regard for your visitors, judging by the sheer amount of crap you've got running on that there hip hop site which you've admitted yourself may crash browsers (did I notice some affiliate cookie pushing going on there when I just visited, by the way?) so you should really add a disclaimer to your post that the methods you use are risky.

    It's black hat you're talking about - yes there are arguments that sometimes black hat stuff appears to avoid any kind of penalty whatsoever for periods of time, and yes I can agree that sometimes you get the impression "hmm, hang on, am I missing something here - if what I think I know about what's regarded as black hat is correct, why is that ite ranking there??" BUT it's usually only for a short period of time - most of the time success is short lived.

    Maybe I'm wrong - if you can come back in a week or so & show that the young Jeezy site is back up there & it was just a fluctuation, then maybe I'll be eating my hat.....

    Thanks

    Kev
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    • Profile picture of the author shaktimaan
      Google has not de indexed YoungJeezyLoseMyMind.com. Home page is also in google's index but it has been filtered out. Other pages from the same site are performing normally.

      in google intl

      for YoungJeezyLoseMyMind

      this page, youngjeezylosemymind.com/tag/young-jeezy-lost-my-mind is ranking at page 19th.
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