Did EVERYTHING ... yet no results?? Wanting to give up...

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Well I launched my site about 3 weeks ago, in a not-so-competitive niche targetting the keyword "how to gain weight." I did EVERYTHING, I did article submsisions, press releases, built backlinks, had 301 redirects, sitemaps submitted to google, links to relevant sites, title with the keywords, bought programs and did complete SEO on my site. My optimization rate for that keyword is higher than all my top competitors... I did everything.

Yet when I scan my pagerank, its still 0. When I search on the top 100 lists for the keyword "how to gain weight" I don't even end up on the top 500. Random websites show up before mines...

WHATS GOING ON?! Its so frustrating because its like I have 0 recognition. At least rank 500 would show me somethings working!

Btw my site is: gainweightspot.com
#give #results #wanting
  • Profile picture of the author Dr.faizan
    Originally Posted by AlfredM View Post

    Well I launched my site about 3 weeks ago, in a not-so-competitive niche targetting the keyword "how to gain weight." I did EVERYTHING, I did article submsisions, press releases, built backlinks, had 301 redirects, sitemaps submitted to google, links to relevant sites, title with the keywords, bought programs and did complete SEO on my site. My optimization rate for that keyword is higher than all my top competitors... I did everything.

    Yet when I scan my pagerank, its still 0. When I search on the top 100 lists for the keyword "how to gain weight" I don't even end up on the top 500. Random websites show up before mines...

    WHATS GOING ON?! Its so frustrating because its like I have 0 recognition. At least rank 500 would show me somethings working!

    Btw my site is: gainweightspot.com

    Mate I am confused you said you want PR in 3 weeks of work? You know google updates PR quarterly. And the next PR updation is quite possible in coming month.

    Coming to ranking you confuse me again.. you want ranking for 3 weeks of work? SEO needs patience. Even your built backlinks might not have got crawled. Keep patience dude if you don't have enough patience then SEO is not for you. Go for PPC. My advise don't broke keep building links.. hardwork pays..
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      You picked a very competitive niche so you're up against a lot of very big players. It sounds like you're doing everything right but you have to have some patience. PR and rankings take time, often more time than people realize, but it will pay off in the end.

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  • Profile picture of the author remodeler
    Results simply will not come overnight regardless of doing all of that and more. It is going to take time. 3 weeks? Are you kidding me? And for a fairly competitive term like that? And you're contemplating on giving up? I'm sorry, but if that is your mindset then you should do just that because you're defeated before you even got started.

    Instead of being frustrated you might want to continue building backlinks. How bad do you want to succeed? This business takes work despite all the hype and crap that is sold on IM. 3 weeks is absolutely nothing.
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    • Profile picture of the author benjammin105
      I was wondering about all of this myself. Would it be reasonable to expect that he would start to receive some results in like 6 months? If his back links get crawled then that would increase his page ranking at least a little. I guess what I'm wondering is how long does it really take to make an impact if you're really goin at it like that??

      I haven't started my site yet, but soon will...
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      • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
        Originally Posted by benjammin105 View Post

        I was wondering about all of this myself. Would it be reasonable to expect that he would start to receive some results in like 6 months? If his back links get crawled then that would increase his page ranking at least a little. I guess what I'm wondering is how long does it really take to make an impact if you're really goin at it like that??

        I haven't started my site yet, but soon will...
        It depends on the site's structure, its content, the quality of its backlinks, the competitiveness of the niche, etc.

        In this case, it sounds like the competitiveness of the niche is the problem.
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        • Profile picture of the author jlxsolutions
          This site is fine just give it some time a month or 2 at least
          minor things
          The title contains stop words which are ignored by the most search engines.: Stop Words: on ,how ,to

          No external links found.
          No internal anchor links found.

          Display in Google:
          GainWeightSpot - Hardgainers Guide on How To Gain Weight
          Your one stop solution on all the facts and information on how to gain weight and pack on lean muscle, designed specifically for the skinny hardgaine...
          GainWeightSpot - Hardgainers Guide on How To Gain Weight
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  • Profile picture of the author clickbumped
    This niche is very competitive, it is not easy as you say it is. Do a yahoo backlinks search on all the competition on page on then average them all together to show you the backlink count you will need to even have a chance. go to Yahoo, then type in linkurl). this will show you how many links a site has to it through the site explorer. You will not do this with only 3 weeks of work. trust me. my first niche ever was weight loss because i thought it was easy...it's not. haha. keep working though there's lots of money to be made in that niche! I can help you also if you're new to this. follow my blog i'll show you how to be successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
    Sorry homie - but you aint even warmed up yet ...

    Here's the first competitor you'll need to knock off

    How to Gain Weight and Build Muscle Naturally

    the other is anAbout.com site [ usually a beeeeyotch to beat em but doable

    How to Gain Weight - I Want to Find Out How to Gain Weight

    gainweight.info is a pr 5 w/ 2k backlinks showing just in yahoo site explorer ... you have 15 backlinks.

    enuff with the on page seo mental masterrrrr ...errrr ... never mind ... Dude you need massive amounts more backlinks to compete if you want to play the organic search game on those keywords.

    I mean really - look at the page thats ranking #3 ... at the content LOL

    thats high quality? its a decent MFA site brother - its all about the backlinks. When youre ready to commit to tossing 2500-5000 backlinks at that page and/or some other crafty seo - then youreready to play - you have done FAR from everything sir.... sorry to be the one to inform of this.

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    Originally Posted by AlfredM View Post

    Well I launched my site about 3 weeks ago, in a not-so-competitive niche targetting the keyword "how to gain weight." I did EVERYTHING, I did article submsisions, press releases, built backlinks, had 301 redirects, sitemaps submitted to google, links to relevant sites, title with the keywords, bought programs and did complete SEO on my site. My optimization rate for that keyword is higher than all my top competitors... I did everything.

    Yet when I scan my pagerank, its still 0. When I search on the top 100 lists for the keyword "how to gain weight" I don't even end up on the top 500. Random websites show up before mines...

    WHATS GOING ON?! Its so frustrating because its like I have 0 recognition. At least rank 500 would show me somethings working!

    Btw my site is: gainweightspot.com
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      • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        You been hanging out at the DP forums?

        That backlink preaching is hilarious each time it's posted.

        Why bother with a site, lets just backlink & call it a day...

        You don't need thousands of backlinks like you guys are preaching.
        You're absolutely right ... backlinks or worthless. Especially 2500 of them.

        Im sure he can on page seo his way to the top spot for the keywords he posted ...

        ALL the best with that.
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        • Profile picture of the author millerb7
          Well to be fair, he doesn't need 1000's of backlinks like the poster said.

          2500 backlinks means pretty much nothing... it's ALL about the quality. Even Matt Cutts himself has said (in many videos) that a couple good quality backlinks are better than hundreds if not thousands of backlinks that carry no weight.
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        • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
          If I may;
          Yes you can get to the top of the serps in a very short period of time.
          I taught a friend of mine how to build his very 1st site, he had never seen keyword research before, never done much more that email and surf, certainly had never built a website before.

          His very 1st site was #3 1st page in Google in 13 hours,
          It then did the dance and when the dust settled he was at #1 1st page and still is, I just Googled his key word and picked and typed a random upper case in the term to break the temp cache and yep still #1.

          So, yes you can do it!

          It breaks down to math.
          1 site
          G says [33,100] searches
          You rank #1
          You get about 52% of that traffic or about 17,000 per month (give er take)
          You average $20 per M unique's in adsense
          You have one aff link to a CB product or CPA that's in the same niche it's worth $5 per M unique's
          You use Info links ect.. worth $4-5 per M unique's

          Each site makes you $510 per month so lets say only $250 real world
          You build 3 per day and write articles for 3 per day.
          You take no days off for 30 days strait (I didn't say this was for W.A.B.S.)
          Over the next 3 months you do nothing but get and keep them ranked.

          End of 3 months your at $7,500 a month. (will you make exactly this? No, yes, More Maybe?, it's up to you). (is that exactly how it will look after that time frame NO!!!!!!!!!!!, but ok so you're makin 5K, still an extra 5 G's helps out around the house).

          1. yes it can be done.
          2. Yes you can find that many key words w/that much traffic. I have one niche with more than the 30 sites example that I am working right now.
          3. Please do not pooh Haw this info because it is do able.

          I only write this because I want people to realize you can do it, but you have to work your nards off.
          The biggest secret ain't no secret it's called sweat!
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  • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
    Originally Posted by AlfredM View Post

    Well I launched my site about 3 weeks ago, in a not-so-competitive niche targetting the keyword "how to gain weight." I did EVERYTHING, I did article submsisions, press releases, built backlinks, had 301 redirects, sitemaps submitted to google, links to relevant sites, title with the keywords, bought programs and did complete SEO on my site. My optimization rate for that keyword is higher than all my top competitors... I did everything.

    Yet when I scan my pagerank, its still 0. When I search on the top 100 lists for the keyword "how to gain weight" I don't even end up on the top 500. Random websites show up before mines...

    WHATS GOING ON?! Its so frustrating because its like I have 0 recognition. At least rank 500 would show me somethings working!

    Btw my site is: gainweightspot.com
    According to Yahoo you only have 19 backlinks.

    You need about 2,000 - 5,000 if you want to be first page for that particular keyword.

    Get Scrapebox.
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    • Profile picture of the author ron.the.bull
      Frustrated in 3 weeks when entering a touch niche like that? What made you think it was so easy?
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Did EVERYTHING ... yet no results?? Wanting to give up...
        There's your problem right there. You have fallen under the spell of
        some imaginary list, that if you complete, you will find riches.

        There is no such list.

        If there is, as soon as you do the last item, you are half way there.

        I need to bookmark that vacuum thread.

        Your site is not in a vacuum. Many people preach they are and
        produce the magical list.

        You are not the only one who starts a thread like this, and not
        the last.

        Your pagerank should actually be n/a, not 0.

        Now, go read some more threads here on what really to do.

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        • Profile picture of the author inter123
          Mabe you should outsurce SEO and get on with a not so competetive market. It might takes months or longer for 'gain weight' to start making $ and SEO is potentially a time consuming business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Halli
      Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

      According to Yahoo you only have 19 backlinks.

      You need about 2,000 - 5,000 if you want to be first page for that particular keyword.

      Get Scrapebox.
      I'm curious. Is Scrapebox blackhat method?
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  • Profile picture of the author budi99
    3 weeks is too short to get result. You have to work harder than that. Submit post in Forum like this with your signature could increase your number of back link.
    Keep on working and wish you more luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author PrudentPanda
    3 weeks isn't too short for ranking, you should be in top 100 if at least if you are just starting on SEO. There is a honeymoon period in Google in which you have to capitalize when you start building links. All your links are low quantity. You need high page rank links, I'd recommend you outsource your SEO effort if you only got 20 indexed links in Yahoo in 3 weeks.

    When I first started, I spent about $500 to $1k a month building upwards of 5k links a month, you aren't doing enough. I'd be happy to talk to you step by step if you have the time, please PM me.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    I think you're right. You have put so much work into your campaign and it's still at PR 0. I'd quit too if I were you. I mean three whole weeks of work? Man. I feel for you bud. I don't know what I would do if I ever put that much work into a site and still have it be at PR 0 after three weeks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
      Instead of 3 weeks, you should be looking at 3 years or thereabouts.

      You're competing against 81,000,000 results and it is a highly competitive niche to begin with!
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    Add to your to do list: Get thousands of links
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      If Google doesn't have a clue what your site is about, all the backlink anchor-text will only add to the confusion/mess.
      Utter nonsense
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielCW
    Hey there Alfred

    Ok so you are not ranked in the top 500 ( yet ). Your site is indexed. Currently as of the 29th of August 2010 you have 22 backlinks to your site. The number one competitor in Google for your keyword is How To Gain Weight and Build Muscle Fast. This site has 1997 backlinks coming in. You are not going to compete against about.com by virtue of the fact that most people associate this site as an authority that will not try sell them things, so it isn't a direct competitor if you catch my drift. YOu just need to package your site different to them.

    As far as I can tell your keyword has 82,000,000 results of whick the in quotes competition is around 114,000 and the allintitle competition is 413,000.

    So the only real problem here is your are the new guy! 3 weeks and you want to topple two established sites, one of them about.com. NO CHANCE! If you want fast and instant results then do a PPC campaign. IF you want SEO results start targeting a lot more keywords around that primary keyword and settle yourself in for 4 - 6 months of work.

    Your site is decent enough. Just be patient my friend and of course consistent. Keep building links and you will get there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
      Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

      Sorry homie - but you aint even warmed up yet ...

      Here's the first competitor you'll need to knock off

      How to Gain Weight and Build Muscle Naturally

      the other is anAbout.com site [ usually a beeeeyotch to beat em but doable

      How to Gain Weight - I Want to Find Out How to Gain Weight

      gainweight.info is a pr 5 w/ 2k backlinks showing just in yahoo site explorer ... you have 15 backlinks.

      enuff with the on page seo mental masterrrrr ...errrr ... never mind ... Dude you need massive amounts more backlinks to compete if you want to play the organic search game on those keywords.

      I mean really - look at the page thats ranking #3 ... at the content LOL

      thats high quality? its a decent MFA site brother - its all about the backlinks. When youre ready to commit to tossing 2500-5000 backlinks at that page and/or some other crafty seo - then youreready to play - you have done FAR from everything sir.... sorry to be the one to inform of this.

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      Originally Posted by mattlaclear View Post

      I think you're right. You have put so much work into your campaign and it's still at PR 0. I'd quit too if I were you. I mean three whole weeks of work? Man. I feel for you bud. I don't know what I would do if I ever put that much work into a site and still have it be at PR 0 after three weeks.


      I have to agree with these statements in particular.
      1. If that's all it takes to dissuade you then you may wish to take a look under the hood before you even so much as think about accomplishing anything in life. Just my 2 cents.

      2. You might want to take a better look at what it will take to compete in a niche before entering.
      Because
      A)Your site is not pinging for your keyword.
      B) you have 29 links to domain with many of them as internals.
      C) you only have 10 links page external to home
      D) your keyword density on home is 1%
      E) all your Hi,H2,H3's are 0 yep ZERO
      F) your key word is not bolded, not underlined, not italicized
      G) Your key words on home are not spread out over the page properly (yes I know this is minor but it does help a tad in competitive niches.
      H) your title is only at 50% for a single keyword billboard site.

      There's more but this should get you going in the right direction.

      AND- no one here is being negative towards you with the "then you should quit" comments. But what were you thinking the response would be, the name of the forum is "The Warrior Forum".
      These people never quit, it's not in their nature.
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      • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
        AND- no one here is being negative towards you with the "then you should quit" comments. But what were you thinking the response would be, the name of the forum is "The Warrior Forum".
        These people never quit, it's not in their nature.
        Amen brother ...

        It never ceases to amaze me - and i could rant on on this forever ... the amount of people who expect to attain Internet / Online Marketing success - using a computer as their primary tool no less... that cannot even unzip a file, save a file to disc correctly or install even a wordpress blog!!! Can barely find the windows START button ffs.

        "Hi Boss, yup its my first day here at ABC House Framing Company ... Hammer? Skillsaw? I dont want to have to take the time to learn all that jive .. i just want to get straight to the building stuff! I just want to show and tell people what to do ... oh and Im sure that's worth $35 an hr. to you right boss ... you dont understand Im special and ... well I also NEED to make money tomorrow..." "Ohh yeah and where are the cool moist towels, Im allergic to sweat"
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        • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
          Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

          Amen brother ...

          It never ceases to amaze me - and i could rant on on this forever ... the amount of people who expect to attain Internet / Online Marketing success - using a computer as their primary tool no less... that cannot even unzip a file, save a file to disc correctly or install even a wordpress blog!!! Can barely find the windows START button ffs.

          "Hi Boss, yup its my first day here at ABC House Framing Company ... Hammer? Skillsaw? I dont want to have to take the time to learn all that jive .. i just want to get straight to the building stuff! I just want to show and tell people what to do ... oh and Im sure that's worth $35 an hr. to you right boss ... you dont understand Im special and ... well I also NEED to make money tomorrow..." "Ohh yeah and where are the cool moist towels, Im allergic to sweat"
          Yeah, tell me about it. I have had a brick and mortar for over 22 years (not 22 days) and I understand in my own way exactly what you're saying.

          I just wanted him to understand if you start a thread here like that of course your going to get beat up a bit, actually it's to be expected.

          Now, pose the question like this.
          "Warriors, I have done everything I know and it's not working. I refuse to give up my dream and would truly appreciate it if you would tear my site apart and tell me what would you do?"

          Maybe not those exact words but you get it.
          Then this awesome community would jump at the chance to help just as they and yourself have done countless times before.

          Life is all about attitude!!!
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          • Profile picture of the author paulgl
            Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post


            Now, pose the question like this.
            "Warriors, I have done everything I know and it's not working. I refuse to give up my dream and would truly appreciate it if you would tear my site apart and tell me what would you do?"
            The problem is still selective hearing.....google readily makes the info you need
            available. This forum makes that info readily available. I for one am tired of
            the same old same old "doing everything" and then hear complaints of
            failings. When in actuality, they have done little or no real SEO, and want
            someone to do a complete SEO make-over for free.

            If you really want a free seo makeover, first check out google websmaster
            guidelines and best practices. Subscribe to their blog. Get thee hence and
            do likewise.

            Second, read this forum. You cannot make over someone's site in one
            thread on a forum, no matter how GREAT the WF is!

            See that link above this forum:http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...questions.html
            That should be required reading.

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            • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
              Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

              The problem is still selective hearing.....google readily makes the info you need
              available. This forum makes that info readily available. I for one am tired of
              the same old same old "doing everything" and then hear complaints of
              failings. When in actuality, they have done little or no real SEO, and want
              someone to do a complete SEO make-over for free.

              If you really want a free seo makeover, first check out google websmaster
              guidelines and best practices. Subscribe to their blog. Get thee hence and
              do likewise.

              Second, read this forum. You cannot make over someone's site in one
              thread on a forum, no matter how GREAT the WF is!

              See that link above this forum:http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...questions.html
              That should be required reading.

              Paul
              Agreed, I was not suggesting the free makeover as much as simply the change in attitude
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              • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
                Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

                Agreed, I was not suggesting the free makeover as much as simply the change in attitude
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                Aa free attitude make over may have just happened :-)
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                • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
                  Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

                  Aa free attitude make over may have just happened :-)
                  My hope is always for the positive and so I HOPE he does take all of this in stride and uses it to chart a new course.
                  Here's something I wrote a while back that he may find useful as I only want to help not hinder.


                  "If circumstance was truly governance then it would abash the morale of all men alike.

                  The fact that it does not proves that the fate lies not in the circumstance but in the heart and mind of he who encounters it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Doug Olson
          Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

          Amen brother ...

          It never ceases to amaze me - and i could rant on on this forever ... the amount of people who expect to attain Internet / Online Marketing success - using a computer as their primary tool no less... that cannot even unzip a file, save a file to disc correctly or install even a wordpress blog!!! Can barely find the windows START button ffs.

          "Hi Boss, yup its my first day here at ABC House Framing Company ... Hammer? Skillsaw? I dont want to have to take the time to learn all that jive .. i just want to get straight to the building stuff! I just want to show and tell people what to do ... oh and Im sure that's worth $35 an hr. to you right boss ... you dont understand Im special and ... well I also NEED to make money tomorrow..." "Ohh yeah and where are the cool moist towels, Im allergic to sweat"

          Is that how you started?Sounds like experience to me. Go easy on him he was asking for advice and didn't know. Some people blow a lot of smoke hes not, he just wants to earn so help not hinder.
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          • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
            Originally Posted by Doug Olson View Post

            Is that how you started?Sounds like experience to me. Go easy on him he was asking for advice and didn't know. Some people blow a lot of smoke hes not, he just wants to earn so help not hinder.

            Thats ok - your post sounds like ignorance to me ... certainly not experience. [ you know nothing about me ]

            The fact is - i wasnt even referring to the OP - it was directed at the general influx of people coming on board here and in IM generally - the same type that are asking for refunds on products because its not an instant viagra dose for their paypal ... just click download.

            3 weeks and I tried everything .. and i want to give up ...

            ponder that again for a minute ...

            good luck to you both ... and as a matter of fact i did assist him with information he could actually take action on. What value did you add bro?

            peace....
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke McCormack
    Backlink variety would not hurt and 3 weekes is far too short a time to assess impact of backlinking efforts. Go blog commenting, articles, videos etc and expect results in about a year judging by comp in your niche
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    And if I may...your 3 week SEO campaign is not "complete SEO". SEO is a process. It is not a grocery list for the week.

    When you need some content, I would be glad to help. I have experience in weight gain, eat after midnight, potato chips, pop, pizza, joe louis, ice cream and couch surfing. It's a slow process, but helps with with Weight gain!
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    • Profile picture of the author petec
      Originally Posted by theseoguys View Post

      And if I may...your 3 week SEO campaign is not "complete SEO". SEO is a process. It is not a grocery list for the week.

      When you need some content, I would be glad to help. I have experience in weight gain, eat after midnight, potato chips, pop, pizza, joe louis, ice cream and couch surfing. It's a slow process, but helps with with Weight gain!

      There's some pretty good keywords there.
      Sounds like my diet.
      Love it.

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  • Originally Posted by AlfredM View Post

    Well I launched my site about 3 weeks ago, in a not-so-competitive niche targetting the keyword "how to gain weight." I did EVERYTHING, I did article submsisions, press releases, built backlinks, had 301 redirects, sitemaps submitted to google, links to relevant sites, title with the keywords, bought programs and did complete SEO on my site. My optimization rate for that keyword is higher than all my top competitors... I did everything.

    Yet when I scan my pagerank, its still 0. When I search on the top 100 lists for the keyword "how to gain weight" I don't even end up on the top 500. Random websites show up before mines...

    WHATS GOING ON?! Its so frustrating because its like I have 0 recognition. At least rank 500 would show me somethings working!

    Btw my site is: gainweightspot.com
    My God man... You gave it a whopping 3 weeks? Give it 6 months to a year... then decide if you want to give up. If getting a web site to the top of the SERPs required 3 wks of part-time effort, everyone on these and every other SEO/Make Money Online blog, forum, chat room would ALL be Billionaires!

    Welcome to the wonderful world of online marketing. It's just like the real world. Nothing comes cheap or free.
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  • Profile picture of the author ernestlohan
    In internet marketing, you have to be patient because it is not like an instant noodles. I am sure one day you will reap what you have sown.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred M
    Thank you all for the response, even the harsh ones.

    But let me clear some things up first. I think some of you guys might have misunderstood me. I don't know too much about SEO, as I just started and this is my first time, but I didn't at all expect to be in the top page after 3 weeks.

    My question was, why I'm not even on the top 500. Random websites that have nothing to do with weight gain are even on the top 500, and not mines. That was the main question.

    And I got my answer, it seems as if google updates it quarterly. So thank you for answering that. Oh and thank you for the H1 heading suggestion, I just changed it all to H2 and kept only the keyword in h1.

    The warriorforum is truly amazing. Thank you all for the help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bob Monie
    OMG, if you think you can do 3 weeks work and be killin it in a niche like that youv got to be kidding yourself, you website had PR as soon as its indexed in Google, only a fraction thats closer to 0 than 1, Google toolbar is only a rough outdated guide at best. Forget about PR and if you want to give up after 3 weeks, i dont think IM is for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author connorbringas
      Listen to everyone who posted already..thats a hard niche..it isnt easy. First you need to know that PR isnt important its all about SERP.
      It takes time to get ranked..only 3 weeks is NOTHING. you cant even check backlinks in 3 weeks haha. They dont even show up.
      Keep working at it, PR and backlinks wont even show up when you check using seomoz or anything else.

      It takes time man, its not that easy..if it took 3 weeks then sites would constantly be changing in the index but they arent for the most part..
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      • Profile picture of the author connorbringas
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        It can't be that tough of a keyword to rank for.

        look at the #2 guy in Google SERPs for the keyword (gain weight).

        The guy has an index page & a privacy policy, 75 backlinks, that's it.

        What's so hard about that?

        The only thing I see is the #2 guy has an old domain, but If you look at wayback, that site has only been used to promote similar keyword sites that they own.
        Number of backlinks doesnt matter..its the quality. The age of a domain doesnt matter either.
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      • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        It can't be that tough of a keyword to rank for.

        look at the #2 guy in Google SERPs for the keyword (gain weight).

        The guy has an index page & a privacy policy, 75 backlinks, that's it.

        What's so hard about that?

        The only thing I see is the #2 guy has an old domain, but If you look at wayback, that site has only been used to promote similar keyword sites that they own.

        OP quote:

        n a not-so-competitive niche targetting the keyword "how to gain weight."
        Now ... what was that about not needing backlinks? Preaching that jive is always funny? ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author ScottieScott
    It is kind of funny that everyone here is saying "Only 3 weeks?", or "3 weeks isn't nearly enough time", or even "You need 2,000 more backlinks", but if you look at the WSO's, promises of success after a short time or a short list of tasks seems to be the main selling theme.

    This person is probably new to IM, and believed the sales pitch that the big guys were throwing to him.

    Now not everyone promises the moon for a 3 page site and a few articles, but how many sales pitches have you read promising success in just a short time and believed them when you were first starting out.

    This person just got caught believing what he was sold.

    Stick with it, and keep doing more of what you have done. Give it some time and learn about other things you can do to increase rank and traffic. Just don't give up, learn from your trials, and you will get everything you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmypage
      Dude I looked at your site and can't really tell what you are selling? oh,now I see it's an ebook and affiliate links to the bodybuilding.com site.

      I think your URL is not helping you in your rankings- nobody types in "gain weight spot' into google. Right now "GainWeightNow.org" is available on godaddy as I write this for $15.00 bucks. Try to think of a 3-4 word search term along these lines for your URL.

      I checked cost per click for adsense and it is very low for gaining weight, but VERY high for losing weight as anyone knows. So, if you go adsense for your site, don't expect a whole lot of $.

      I'm not a Wordpress expert but the gentlemen above mentioned the H1, H2 tags which really help your ranking if done right. There is a guy on here selling a wordpress plugin "seopresser" for not a whole lot, I'd look into it-It
      would help with your tags. no, I'm not an affiliate of his and I'm not selling anything in my PS.

      Good luck my friend
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    SEO doesn't work as you think, it requires a look of patience and page rank has never grown overnight. The reasons why you are not ranking high is because your site is still new. Do some little marketing and relax your nerve, its going to take some time.
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  • Profile picture of the author webber1
    You know all these people have been commenting about alot of things and only a few have actually given decent CONSTRUCTIVE criticism and help. What you should look to do - offsite SEO is what Im mainly experienced in- is creating a variety of backlinks: social bookmarking, article submissions, profile backlinks, forum posts in relevant forums with your site used in the signature, linkwheels, directories, high page rank blog commenting backlinks are fantastic!!! You should also social bookmark the urls where you blog comment and you see results faster. You do these things especially the blog commenting on high pagerank pages and you will see results. Try a large number of profile backlinks - 1000 or so and you will see your site jump up in the search results.

    As for on site SEO there were some good suggestions. And dont worry about you web address - you dont need to have your keywords within it. Just make sure you use your keywords as the anchor text for the term you want to rank high for.

    One thing I would say is your trying to sell a product/ebook whatever it needs to be more promient than it is now. Some people just offer a sales page with very little value/content to the user. You have went the other way, which is great for the user but not so good for you. Your ebook/affiliates or whatever it is (if anything) needs to be more promient.

    And backlinks are everything if your in a competitive niche. I understand you can rank highly for low competitive words but to really get up there, you need high PR backlinks. And lots of them.

    Good luck mate

    oh and pagerank - dont worry about it - it may take you 3-4months before you get a rank but it doesnt matter. My competiton was a PR5 i overtook them with a brand new domain within 3months. Mine is a PR4.
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  • Profile picture of the author kposs
    I have two suggestions. Keep consistently backlinking this site. Do it every day if you can.

    And while you're waiting for results on this site, go ahead and start a second site. Then start backlinking it too.

    Maybe choose something related, but with a little less competition so you can see results faster. A less competitive site will also prove to you that your methods are working and will just take longer for the first site.
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    • Profile picture of the author webber1
      Originally Posted by kposs View Post

      I have two suggestions. Keep consistently backlinking this site. Do it every day if you can.

      And while you're waiting for results on this site, go ahead and start a second site. Then start backlinking it too.

      Maybe choose something related, but with a little less competition so you can see results faster. A less competitive site will also prove to you that your methods are working and will just take longer for the first site.
      I agree with the first suggestion keep baclinking.
      I disagree with the second. If your thinking of "giving up" you need to make sure you concentrate on the ONE site. trust me do everything I said above and you will see results. It is worth it.
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      • Profile picture of the author cballi
        What a silly niche. I seem to have no trouble gaining weight
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      • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
        Originally Posted by webber1 View Post

        I agree with the first suggestion keep baclinking.
        I disagree with the second. If your thinking of "giving up" you need to make sure you concentrate on the ONE site. trust me do everything I said above and you will see results. It is worth it.
        Actually I would agree with 2 - 3 or 4-5 sites.
        Why? Because not every single site hits. Some do, some don't.
        I would love to hear from anyone who has built over 50 sites as a minimum requirement tell me that all 50 hit and are good producers.

        So, if you only have one site and it does not hit, well you could get your gray matter bent around that and not know that your very next site (maybe) would have hit and you'd be at 50% which for any new person would be pretty good averages (I think).

        So, I would have to agree with a few sites I would even say 4 to 6 and take the good ones and build them out to larger high quality sites.
        And whatever you do only build REAL quality sites, no scraper, PLR junk.
        Don't build them on any free platforms that YOU don't control.

        Why? Because then you have a real business with real web properties and you should never have to worry about waking up one day and it's all gone.

        That's my story and I'm sticking to it, Seeee!
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