How I Went To $100/Day With Adsense

14 years ago

Not exactly a sustainable business model.

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clickbumped

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Not exactly a sustainable business model.

You don't have to do it. If you're making more money with Adsense then let us know. It works for me and a bunch of my friends (of whom taught me and make 4 times what I make). Just trying to help.

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Mike Grant

14 years ago

Originally Posted by clickbumped

You don't have to do it. If you're making more money with Adsense then let us know. It works for me and a bunch of my friends (of whom taught me and make 4 times what I make). Just trying to help.

I've a very nice collection of sites, average bringing in >$600/month.

What I'm saying is that your idea isn't a long-term viable plan. People are getting smacked left and right for MFAs.

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clickbumped

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

I've a very nice collection of sites, average bringing in >$600/month.

What I'm saying is that your idea isn't a long-term viable plan. People are getting smacked left and right for MFAs.

Ok, good point. Yes, a lot of people are getting thrown off for MFA's, but this is why you can update your sites once a week or so, just to provide helpful content on topic. I was just trying to help some people out who put in hours of work and make <$20/month with Adsense. There are many approaches to using the adsense program, this is just one of them that I use. It just so happens this is the most popular method as well. Because MFA's are frowned upon, I ensure that my sites provide anything that the visitor may be looking for on that topic, the ads are just there.

Good point nonetheless, sorry for getting defensive.

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DonChipriani

14 years ago

How many sites do you have in order to make that $100/day?
How much your sites earn each? Could you provide range? Also what the average is per site?
Beside article marketing what else you do to drive traffic and get links?
Do you add more pages at least to the sites that are better earners?

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clickbumped

14 years ago

Originally Posted by DonChipriani

How many sites do you have in order to make that $100/day?
How much your sites earn each? Could you provide range? Also what the average is per site?
Beside article marketing what else you do to drive traffic and get links?
Do you add more pages at least to the sites that are better earners?

Right now I have 20+ sites. All average around $5/day, some more and some less. Yes, the sites that hit very well I put up pages on and rank those pages for the terms, this takes a lot more work but it's well worth it. I have two sites that make around $10+ a day now because of added pages. This also makes the sites more legitimate. Pages should be added on topic within the content over time, as stated by mgtarheels.

I don't do anything other than article marketing, I rely solely on search engine traffic. But I use EzArticleLink for articles as well, look into it...it's very impressive.

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HCLee

14 years ago

I've heard a little about EzArticleLink in that it creates an article directory on your domain. Can you tell me if the articles that they sent you showing up on your blog or website - are they relevant to your blog theme or totally irrelevant.

Originally Posted by clickbumped

Right now I have 20+ sites. All average around $5/day, some more and some less. Yes, the sites that hit very well I put up pages on and rank those pages for the terms, this takes a lot more work but it's well worth it. I have two sites that make around $10+ a day now because of added pages. This also makes the sites more legitimate. Pages should be added on topic within the content over time, as stated by mgtarheels.

I don't do anything other than article marketing, I rely solely on search engine traffic. But I use EzArticleLink for articles as well, look into it...it's very impressive.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by HCLee

I've heard a little about EzArticleLink in that it creates an article directory on your domain. Can you tell me if the articles that they sent you showing up on your blog or website - are they relevant to your blog theme or totally irrelevant.

Unfortunately they are not all relevant. But, the point is that it's an article directory. I have had it up on sites for a couple months now and have 26 pages of articles with close to 15 articles per page. My sites get really large this way, and it's all automated.

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HCLee

14 years ago

Hi Clickbumped,

Thanks for your reply. In this thread, Matt Cutts already mentioned it's not that important to have bigger sites. I like your views on this. Since the EzArticleLink articles give you irrelevant contents, I like to think that when people click on your niche site, they are not interested to read these published posts. Now does that mean the only benefit to you having this article directory on your site is the Google ad(s) that appear on these irrelevant posts (presumably they contain relevant ads to your homepage). Do you see other benefits other than this one? That helps to get more clicks?

Originally Posted by clickbumped

Unfortunately they are not all relevant. But, the point is that it's an article directory. I have had it up on sites for a couple months now and have 26 pages of articles with close to 15 articles per page. My sites get really large this way, and it's all automated.

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Wealth Mentor

14 years ago

Thanks for the tips clickbumped.

Michael, what are your suggestions as alternatives to clickbumped's model??

Oh...and somebody please explain MFAs.

Thanks much.

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L41db4ck

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wealth Mentor

Thanks for the tips clickbumped.

Michael, what are your suggestions as alternatives to clickbumped's model??

Oh...and somebody please explain MFAs.

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DonChipriani 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wealth Mentor

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Oh...and somebody please explain MFAs.
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MFA = Made for adsense

LOL, I see that L41db4ck posted the answer in the same time, well a bit quicker evidently

Oh, yeah swayman's questions is a good one. looking forward for the answer.
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Mike Grant

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wealth Mentor

Thanks for the tips clickbumped.

Michael, what are your suggestions as alternatives to clickbumped's model??

Oh...and somebody please explain MFAs.

Thanks much.

MFA = Made For Adsense. Typically they're very small informational websites made solely for the purpose of generating Adsense revenue.

I won't give a suggestion, but I'll tell you what I do.

I typically go for 10,000+ exact searches per month. I look for exact match domains, but it's rare you'll find one so I typically go for variations of them.
ie. mygrills.com/.net/.org, igrills.com/.net/.org, etc.

Then I throw up articles for topics within my main topic.
ie. gas grills, wood burning grills, stainless steel grills, etc.

My average sites have about 15-20 pages of content, not including contact,about,etc. 15-20 pages of solid content. Each page is typically about 450 words.

I ensure my niche's average clicks are priced over $5/click. This typically translates to me receiving $.75-$2.50 per click.

I've 15 sites like this, and average about $600/mo per site.

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clickbumped

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

MFA = Made For Adsense. Typically they're very small informational websites made solely for the purpose of generating Adsense revenue.

I won't give a suggestion, but I'll tell you what I do.

I typically go for 10,000+ exact searches per month. I look for exact match domains, but it's rare you'll find one so I typically go for variations of them.
ie. mygrills.com/.net/.org, igrills.com/.net/.org, etc.

Then I throw up articles for topics within my main topic.
ie. gas grills, wood burning grills, stainless steel grills, etc.

My average sites have about 15-20 pages of content, not including contact,about,etc. 15-20 pages of solid content. Each page is typically about 450 words.

I ensure my niche's average clicks are priced over $5/click. This typically translates to me receiving $.75-$2.50 per click.

I've 15 sites like this, and average about $600/mo per site.

This is also a very solid way of doing things. Much more secure in terms of staying ranked, but also a lot more work. My way is not the only way. Good job mgtarheels.

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DonChipriani

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

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I typically go for 10,000+ exact searches per month. I look for exact match domains, but it's rare you'll find one so I typically go for variations of them.
ie. mygrills.com/.net/.org, igrills.com/.net/.org, etc.

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How do you test the competition strength and what is the maximum competition level you give it a go?

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Diver's

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

MFA = Made For Adsense. Typically they're very small informational websites made solely for the purpose of generating Adsense revenue.

I won't give a suggestion, but I'll tell you what I do.

I typically go for 10,000+ exact searches per month. I look for exact match domains, but it's rare you'll find one so I typically go for variations of them.
ie. mygrills.com/.net/.org, igrills.com/.net/.org, etc.

Then I throw up articles for topics within my main topic.
ie. gas grills, wood burning grills, stainless steel grills, etc.

My average sites have about 15-20 pages of content, not including contact,about,etc. 15-20 pages of solid content. Each page is typically about 450 words.

I ensure my niche's average clicks are priced over $5/click. This typically translates to me receiving $.75-$2.50 per click.

I've 15 sites like this, and average about $600/mo per site.

what keyword tools to do you use?

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clickbumped

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

MFA = Made For Adsense. Typically they're very small informational websites made solely for the purpose of generating Adsense revenue.

I won't give a suggestion, but I'll tell you what I do.

I typically go for 10,000+ exact searches per month. I look for exact match domains, but it's rare you'll find one so I typically go for variations of them.
ie. mygrills.com/.net/.org, igrills.com/.net/.org, etc.

Then I throw up articles for topics within my main topic.
ie. gas grills, wood burning grills, stainless steel grills, etc.

My average sites have about 15-20 pages of content, not including contact,about,etc. 15-20 pages of solid content. Each page is typically about 450 words.

I ensure my niche's average clicks are priced over $5/click. This typically translates to me receiving $.75-$2.50 per click.

I've 15 sites like this, and average about $600/mo per site.

You're getting $600/mo per site? That's a pretty huge income man.

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Thinking_man_too

14 years ago

WOW. Good for you!
Would you be willing to post one of your sites that are earning like that so some of us could see what it looks like and understand how you laid it out? (I understand if the answer is no).

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clickbumped

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Thinking_man_too

WOW. Good for you!
Would you be willing to post one of your sites that are earning like that so some of us could see what it looks like and understand how you laid it out? (I understand if the answer is no).

Thinking_man_too, sorry, I cannot post my sites like this as I could run the risk of my account being deactivated. Pretty much its like this:

Header = Keyword In Title, Plain Single Color
Sidebar = On Right Side, No Navigation On Top Of Page
H2 Tages = Above Each Post, Keyword In H2
Adsense Block (Large) = 1, Directly Beneath H2, NOT FLOATED
Post = 100 words, keyword rich, directly below adsense.

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pjblanch

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

MFA = Made For Adsense. Typically they're very small informational websites made solely for the purpose of generating Adsense revenue.

I won't give a suggestion, but I'll tell you what I do.

I typically go for 10,000+ exact searches per month. I look for exact match domains, but it's rare you'll find one so I typically go for variations of them.
ie. mygrills.com/.net/.org, igrills.com/.net/.org, etc.

Then I throw up articles for topics within my main topic.
ie. gas grills, wood burning grills, stainless steel grills, etc.

My average sites have about 15-20 pages of content, not including contact,about,etc. 15-20 pages of solid content. Each page is typically about 450 words.

I ensure my niche's average clicks are priced over $5/click. This typically translates to me receiving $.75-$2.50 per click.

I've 15 sites like this, and average about $600/mo per site.

Hi mgtarheels - I was wondering if you could share some of how your sites are layed out, such as Adsense ad placement, number of them, any other ad vendor's ads, etc. and also the general layout.

I know I'm asking a question that I have a good chance of getting a "no" on, so it's ok. Thanks for any help or advice you may want to give. ~p

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feflo 14 years ago

Hi,
Could i request that you take me through the process of making money online as a step by step guide. I am a Nigerian that is desirous of making money online. I have registered for Google Adwords, put up two adverts but none seem to sell, i have also registered with clickbank. I will be glad if you could take me up from where i stopped.

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angeal

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

MFA = Made For Adsense. Typically they're very small informational websites made solely for the purpose of generating Adsense revenue.

I won't give a suggestion, but I'll tell you what I do.

I typically go for 10,000+ exact searches per month. I look for exact match domains, but it's rare you'll find one so I typically go for variations of them.
ie. mygrills.com/.net/.org, igrills.com/.net/.org, etc.

Then I throw up articles for topics within my main topic.
ie. gas grills, wood burning grills, stainless steel grills, etc.

My average sites have about 15-20 pages of content, not including contact,about,etc. 15-20 pages of solid content. Each page is typically about 450 words.

I ensure my niche's average clicks are priced over $5/click. This typically translates to me receiving $.75-$2.50 per click.

I've 15 sites like this, and average about $600/mo per site.

thanks for ya tips dude !

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

MFA = Made For Adsense. Typically they're very small informational websites made solely for the purpose of generating Adsense revenue.

I won't give a suggestion, but I'll tell you what I do.

I typically go for 10,000+ exact searches per month. I look for exact match domains, but it's rare you'll find one so I typically go for variations of them.
ie. mygrills.com/.net/.org, igrills.com/.net/.org, etc.

Then I throw up articles for topics within my main topic.
ie. gas grills, wood burning grills, stainless steel grills, etc.

My average sites have about 15-20 pages of content, not including contact,about,etc. 15-20 pages of solid content. Each page is typically about 450 words.

I ensure my niche's average clicks are priced over $5/click. This typically translates to me receiving $.75-$2.50 per click.

I've 15 sites like this, and average about $600/mo per site.

How do you rank among the 10 first places of SERP with single word like Grill?

What about SOC ??

Got to have thousand of very fine backlinks!

Too much work for a minisite...!

Discarded for me

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howinfo 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wealth Mentor

Thanks for the tips clickbumped.

Michael, what are your suggestions as alternatives to clickbumped's model??

Thanks much.

I think that the alternative would be some sort of authority site with lot of pages and lot of new content every day.

Our article directory seems to work very well with adsense. After removing most of the affiliate links the adsense earnings went up quite a lot. I do however plan to make few MFA sites as well to see how that will work out.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

I've a very nice collection of sites, average bringing in >$600/month.

What I'm saying is that your idea isn't a long-term viable plan. People are getting smacked left and right for MFAs.

Congrats on achieving adsense success...

You should consider writing a course/ebook that shows step by step your method from keyword research to how exactly you build your sites and how you optimize and rank them. This couldn't take you but a week max and would make you a killing.

If you decide this, PM me and I can help you get started writing a course.

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Mike Grant

14 years ago

Originally Posted by carp104

Congrats on achieving adsense success...

You should consider writing a course/ebook that shows step by step your method from keyword research to how exactly you build your sites and how you optimize and rank them. This couldn't take you but a week max and would make you a killing.

If you decide this, PM me and I can help you get started writing a course.

I appreciate the offer, but I much prefer to fly below the radar and keep my tactics to myself.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by clickbumped

You don't have to do it. If you're making more money with Adsense then let us know. It works for me and a bunch of my friends (of whom taught me and make 4 times what I make). Just trying to help.

Nice to hear about good earning form adsense. Please share your experience of adsense.

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3afash 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Not exactly a sustainable business model.

You are cluttering the thread. Keep your sustainability views for yourself please or go create a thread
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Nilesh Patidar

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Not exactly a sustainable business model.

I am totally agree with you. AS one of my friend has suggested me to start a website having topic some what like free classified sites.

He has also provide me some free classified website designs which helps me to get more and more from Google Adsense.

He provides me the logic that today free classified market is on rush because every one is getting to register and promote the business.

SO I think that it is best rather than any other business model and the great thing is that he is just providing me the full website with adsense account in just $200.

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clickbumped

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Nilesh Patidar

I am totally agree with you. AS one of my friend has suggested me to start a website having topic some what like free classified sites.

He has also provide me some free classified website designs which helps me to get more and more from Google Adsense.

He provides me the logic that today free classified market is on rush because every one is getting to register and promote the business.

SO I think that it is best rather than any other business model and the great thing is that he is just providing me the full website with adsense account in just $200.

it's good that you found something you can do. This method is not for everyone, and may not work for everyone. If you build a large site, you are more likely to do better in the long run. But my small sites grow a little every day. So i can't say it's not sustainable to me

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claycath 14 years ago

I have a question for Clickbumped and mgtarheels.

How long did it take for you to get to your current income level?
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AllThingsArePossible

14 years ago

can ezarticle link be classified as duplicate content because the same content is displayed in other websites?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by AllThingsArePossible

can ezarticle link be classified as duplicate content because the same content is displayed in other websites?

Duplicate content is a problem when it is on the same domain.

Duplicate articles just get filtered out when being displayed in a Google search - it doesn't affect your SERP position. Duplicate links from the same domain is your main concern. They should still have some positive effect but I am of the belief it is a diminishing return.

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HCLee

14 years ago

Actually, EzArticleLink has a clever way to deal with duplicate content. Every article that you submit has to be spun by you first (manually via the tool) and the system checks thoroughly and made sure your spun articles are sufficiently unique. Once approved these spun articles get published on other members article directories.

Originally Posted by Fraggler

Duplicate content is a problem when it is on the same domain.

Duplicate articles just get filtered out when being displayed in a Google search - it doesn't affect your SERP position. Duplicate links from the same domain is your main concern. They should still have some positive effect but I am of the belief it is a diminishing return.

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BrenDavis 14 years ago

might not be long term, but could be good to build capital in the mean time.
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John Williamson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Not exactly a sustainable business model.

Sure it's sustainable, as long as you keep building sites every once in a while, or flip the sites you build. I can churn out a niche site in less than 15 minutes and I bring in about $1500/mo. with almost no work on my part.

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Mike Grant

14 years ago

Originally Posted by John Williamson

Sure it's sustainable, as long as you keep building sites every once in a while, or flip the sites you build. I can churn out a niche site in less than 15 minutes and I bring in about $1500/mo. with almost no work on my part.

Cool. We'll see how long before you get the vast majority of your sites deindexed if you follow this method.

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Ryan Marshall

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Cool. We'll see how long before you get the vast majority of your sites deindexed if you follow this method.

What is the reason for it being deindexed if the site provides high quality unique content that searchers are looking for with minimal ads?

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Mike Grant

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Pixel Pirate

What is the reason for it being deindexed if the site provides high quality unique content that searchers are looking for with minimal ads?

High quality unique content often doesn't matter if it's a micro site.

There are tons of stories of people being deindexed and being banned from Adsense for this.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

High quality unique content often doesn't matter if it's a micro site.

There are tons of stories of people being deindexed and being banned from Adsense for this.

But you rarely get the entire story. People who tread in the gray areas and end up overstepping boundaries rarely admit it when they go here to whine. There are also a lot of people who think they are providing high quality content when they aren't. There are also tons of stories of people who do this and don't get deindexed or banned, and don't go online to crow about it.

(Although my own approach does include more content as well)

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Mr Rose 14 years ago

mgtarheels, when you say you target words with over 10000 global searches per month and over $5 per click, does this not put you in an extremely high competition category? Are there any specific techniques to beat the high competition?

clickbumped, you say you stick with words with an SOC less than 25, how does this translate in google adwords competition ranking? Is it medium to low competition, or just low competition? You're saying at most $1 per click is a good place to be?

Thank you for your answers and this great thread!
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14 years ago

How many searches perday are you targeting for the keyword?

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clickbumped 14 years ago

Originally Posted by swayman

How many searches perday are you targeting for the keyword?

I typically like to target keywords with no less than 2400/month global, and try to keep local around the same. The trends should be consistent as well, no ups and downs as I want to earn every day not just some days.
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iRunThis

14 years ago

Wow , Clickbumped that's a nice income.
I'm completely new to this whole online money making thing , but since I'm playing football I need some way of making money because I only have maybe 4 hours of free time per day except saturdays and sundays. I was wondering if you would be able to help me out or get me started with this.?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by iRunThis

Wow , Clickbumped that's a nice income.
I'm completely new to this whole online money making thing , but since I'm playing football I need some way of making money because I only have maybe 4 hours of free time per day except saturdays and sundays. I was wondering if you would be able to help me out or get me started with this.?

Follow the steps listed above and you should be good. It will take a lot of work, though, and you must be patient to see any kind of cash flow. Start with 1 website, try to find a topic you like and search for something that's in demand, then follow my steps.

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14 years ago

How do I find something in demand.?
(Sorry , I'm literally ENTIRELY new to all of this. lol)

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Originally Posted by iRunThis

How do I find something in demand.?
(Sorry , I'm literally ENTIRELY new to all of this. lol)

No problem. Use google adwords keyword tool to search for topic that you are familiar with (we'll do this to start since it will be easier to write a lot on the topic). Make sure the search settings are set to "exact" searches per month. This will tell you what's in demand. Anything 2400 per month or more is good to go for.
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Originally Posted by iRunThis

How do I find something in demand.?
(Sorry , I'm literally ENTIRELY new to all of this. lol)

Google Adwords Keyword Tool

Sorry, I forgot to link it in the last post. lol
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by iRunThis

How do I find something in demand.?
(Sorry , I'm literally ENTIRELY new to all of this. lol)

You also want to make sure that the adsense clicks are high-paying. If you are only getting paid five cents a click you are not going to earn much money. I had a successful adsense site - just sold it - in a niche where advertisers pay a LOT for clicks. If I only had one click in a day, it was worth a buck or two. I put really minimal effort into that site and it regularly made $125-$250 a month - for two years after I stopped doing anything to it or for it at all.

Think logically. What advertisers will pay big bucks? Those who stand to make a lot of money from a customer - tens of thousands of dollars. Student loans, debt consolidation, those are a couple of examples of high paying niches.

Also - make sure there is demand for your niche. A high paying click won't help if hardly anyone is searching for it. Example: I made the mistake of creating a site targeting cosmetic surgery in Miami. Waaaay too narrow. The clicks would have paid really well - if anyone were visiting the site. There just wasn't enough traffic to justify that site.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dana_W

You also want to make sure that the adsense clicks are high-paying. If you are only getting paid five cents a click you are not going to earn much money. I had a successful adsense site - just sold it - in a niche where advertisers pay a LOT for clicks. If I only had one click in a day, it was worth a buck or two. I put really minimal effort into that site and it regularly made $125-$250 a month - for two years after I stopped doing anything to it or for it at all.

Think logically. What advertisers will pay big bucks? Those who stand to make a lot of money from a customer - tens of thousands of dollars. Student loans, debt consolidation, those are a couple of examples of high paying niches.

Also - make sure there is demand for your niche. A high paying click won't help if hardly anyone is searching for it. Example: I made the mistake of creating a site targeting cosmetic surgery in Miami. Waaaay too narrow. The clicks would have paid really well - if anyone were visiting the site. There just wasn't enough traffic to justify that site.

Good addition. I use SpyFu (old but still accurate) and try to make sure my keywords are all over $1, so my sites make at the very minimum a few bucks a day each.

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14 years ago

Ok I found a topic. (Boxing) 1,000,000 global monthly search volume.
Now I move to step 3? or go back to step 1? What's next?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by iRunThis

Ok I found a topic. (Boxing) 1,000,000 global monthly search volume.
Now I move to step 3? or go back to step 1? What's next?

I think you need to be more specific:

boxing workout
boxing training programme
boxing training routine
boxing clubs
boxing training regime
boxing training exercises

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by iRunThis

Ok I found a topic. (Boxing) 1,000,000 global monthly search volume.
Now I move to step 3? or go back to step 1? What's next?

Originally Posted by howinfo

I think you need to be more specific:

boxing workout
boxing training programme
boxing training routine
boxing clubs
boxing training regime
boxing training exercises

howinfo is right. Unless boxing.com/.net/.org is available. You need to run a search for boxing in the keyword tool and get more long tail (multiple words) keywords. The reason I said look for something around 2400/month is because anything higher is most likely very VERY hard to rank for.

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PrudentPanda

14 years ago

I am currently making around $30 a day on my main website, and wondering if it would be easier for me to just build small sites that earns $5 a day each or focus all my SEO efforts on a single website? Seems like I am hitting a brick wall in terms of traffic in the last couple of months. And it seems like it's pretty costly to maintain multiple websites with niche specific and fresh content.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by PrudentPanda

I am currently making around $30 a day on my main website, and wondering if it would be easier for me to just build small sites that earns $5 a day each or focus all my SEO efforts on a single website? Seems like I am hitting a brick wall in terms of traffic in the last couple of months. And it seems like it's pretty costly to maintain multiple websites with niche specific and fresh content.

$30 a day is really good income for a website that I'm assuming gets a lot of return visitors on, maybe not. If you are ranking well in the SERPS then you might have plateaued because of the search volume. I personally love the idea of having large, successful websites; however, small sites are very simple to manage and I can put them up in about 10 minutes.

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14 years ago

mgtarheels, can you please share how you get traffic to your sites? clickbumped seems to rely soley on article writing for traffic.

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Originally Posted by cbreceipt

mgtarheels, can you please share how you get traffic to your sites? clickbumped seems to rely soley on article writing for traffic.

All organic.
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Originally Posted by cbreceipt

mgtarheels, can you please share how you get traffic to your sites? clickbumped seems to rely soley on article writing for traffic.

I only use article marketing for backlinks and, if I'm lucky, some traffic. I rely on organic traffic for my sites.
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14 years ago

clickbumped, thanks for taking the time to share what's working for you, and in detail too. Not everyone does that & I appreciate it.

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14 years ago

You will get banned eventually, i can guarantee that.

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Originally Posted by chini

You will get banned eventually, i can guarantee that.

Anyone who thinks he can guarantee anything Google will do, good or bad, is a fool.
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Vexo 14 years ago

Originally Posted by chini

You will get banned eventually, i can guarantee that.

First of if it is useful content then he will never get banned. (Do yourself a favor and find out what google thinks about small sites)

Second if you don't have anything to add go spam some other forum.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by chini

You will get banned eventually, i can guarantee that.

What a load of rubbish.....how the hell can you guarantee what Google will or won't do??!!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by terryd

What a load of rubbish.....how the hell can you guarantee what Google will or won't do??!!

Exactly, you cannot guarantee anything. As I've found countless time the best method to doing anything in this field is trial and error. It works differently for everyone. The method I use, and that many use, works. But some people may want to do something different that they've found to work. Why fix something that isn't broken?

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Delboy Trotter

14 years ago

Hello clickbumped,
congrats on your success, it is a really respective achievement!

Since you have much more experience than I do, can you tell me how much visitors do you get in comparison to predicted?
If keyword tool writes 2,400 or 6,600,...how much traffic approximately do you get? (in percentage)

And one more thing, how much do you earn per unique visitor on average- if you have about 1000 visits monthly, how much money do you expect from it?

Thanks for your time and best wishes once again

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delboy Trotter

Hello clickbumped,
congrats on your success, it is a really respective achievement!

Since you have much more experience than I do, can you tell me how much visitors do you get in comparison to predicted?
If keyword tool writes 2,400 or 6,600,...how much traffic approximately do you get? (in percentage)

And one more thing, how much do you earn per unique visitor on average- if you have about 1000 visits monthly, how much money do you expect from it?

Thanks for your time and best wishes once again

Hmmm, lol I don't really look at stats, just clicks. I rank from #1 spot to #9 spot in my sites and they all earn well. I could look into my awstats if I really wanted to narrow it down, but I'm not looking to work any harder than I already do. I keep things basic. Make sure trends are pretty consistent, and that no month has a history of going below 2,000, since that number seems to maintain a generous ctr.

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Vexo

14 years ago

Hi
How man articles from ezine on average does it take to rank for your main domain name keyword ? Also how many articles for the rest of the pages to rank.

I know it can be very different but just give the average please.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Vexo

Hi
How man articles from ezine on average does it take to rank for your main domain name keyword ? Also how many articles for the rest of the pages to rank.

I know it can be very different but just give the average please.

I've never really looked into the average. I typically write about 5 articles for each new site, then write 1 or two articles for EzArticleLink. Nothing too concrete...but it works.

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Vexo

14 years ago

In fact lets end this now before more people like you ( who probably have not tried this and looking to sell some other method ) spam this thread.

Lets here what google thinks about small websites

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

If you put rubbish information on the internet Google will not like it NO MATTER THE SIZE of the website.

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clickbumped

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Vexo

In fact lets end this now before more people like you ( who probably have not tried this and looking to sell some other method ) spam this thread.

Lets here what google thinks about small websites
YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

If you put rubbish information on the internet Google will not like it NO MATTER THE SIZE of the website.

You're right. Which is why my sites aren't full of "rubbish information." If you read the content of the site, it includes FAQ's and answers about whatever topic I am writing on. Plus any other information I would want to know when researching the topic. I'm a very well spoken individual, and very good at talking up a product.

People who make websites and put up 400 word rants will get banned (if Google catches them). My site pages are all at least 1000 words of good information and helpful reviews.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Vexo

In fact lets end this now before more people like you ( who probably have not tried this and looking to sell some other method ) spam this thread.

Lets here what google thinks about small websites
YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

If you put rubbish information on the internet Google will not like it NO MATTER THE SIZE of the website.

Thank you for supplying the outside information to restore reason to this before it turned into a rant.

Then, the Gentleman that's doing $600 per site per month.
Thank you for sharing your model and contributing. We are all here to help each other as we all will be better off for it.

The guy that just said Google will ban you; Please research a position prior to espousal.

The way I understand it is basically like the video. And if you put up rubbish, junk sites or scrapers ect.. you're not contributing to the good of the internet community. And so just like with any other tribe it eventually banishes the weaklings.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Vexo

In fact lets end this now before more people like you ( who probably have not tried this and looking to sell some other method ) spam this thread.

Lets here what google thinks about small websites
YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

If you put rubbish information on the internet Google will not like it NO MATTER THE SIZE of the website.

Wow - that was REALLY helpful - thanks Vexo.

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houdinihoudini

14 years ago

Disclaimer: not an expert, just saying...

Add an amazon ad into your small site, do not just use adsense, and/or add a product. This should eliminate the view of an MFA site.

One page sites with little content and a lot of adsense look like MFA sites to me.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by houdinihoudini

Disclaimer: not an expert, just saying...

Add an amazon ad into your small site, do not just use adsense, and/or add a product. This should eliminate the view of an MFA site.

One page sites with little content and a lot of adsense look like MFA sites to me.

I do this on some sites, but I like the idea of earning a lot of money with adsense alone. My sites only have one ad block on them so they're not cluttered with it.

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14 years ago

Clickbumped, do you have any experience with Clickbump's? method?

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-answered.html

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Originally Posted by Fraggler

Clickbumped, do you have any experience with Clickbump's? method?

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-answered.html

I'm interested in this answer too
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14 years ago

thanks for sharing us your experience

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14 years ago

This topic is a must follow for all newbies that wants to make money through google adsense. So educative and also controversial.

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wsotoolz 14 years ago

Your right this is a great topic for beginners. I too use Micro Niche Finder for keyword research. Although I am finding that my new favorite tool is SEOPressor for my on-page Wordpress SEO. It is a Wordpress plugin that helps you optimize your post or page very easily. Although it does cost $97 for an unlimited site license. Anyone else using it and getting good results?

I thought I would mention it here because it works great for optimizing these types of niche sites that we are talking about in this thread.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by vijay08

This topic is a must follow for all newbies that wants to make money through google adsense. So educative and also controversial.

Exactly. I'm trying to teach people what to do right from the beginning, so they don't buy countless domains and spend a lot of money and time without making anything in return as I did when I started.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by clickbumped

Exactly. I'm trying to teach people what to do right from the beginning, so they don't buy countless domains and spend a lot of money and time without making anything in return as I did when I started.

Hi Clickbumped,

May I ask you regarding the keyword in domain as you've stated, is it a full domain like www (dot) underwaterbasketweaving (dot) com or are you using something like www (dot) underwaterbasketweaving (dot) blogger (dot) com

Have you found that it makes a difference either way?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by benjamin12

I think this is a good tutroil but, the keywords need to be specfic. For example money , then a better one is how to make money with clickbank. I also think you should write about 7 articles.

My keywords don't go any longer than 3 words. this keeps it specific, competition relatively low, but also maintains high cpc.

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raksamuda

14 years ago

in addition to keywords, engineering what else can be used to improve adsense?

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kartikkhattar

14 years ago

It just can't get deindexed if it's providing unique and useful information, the only reason why the site CAN get a warning mail is because the guy is using adsense below the title. Moreover, the site can lose it's position if the competing sites are doing some good SEO. So it just won't get indexed just because it has black and green colors on the header and sidebar. It can JUST drop in rankings.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by kartikkhattar

It just can't get deindexed if it's providing unique and useful information, the only reason why the site CAN get a warning mail is because the guy is using adsense below the title. Moreover, the site can lose it's position if the competing sites are doing some good SEO. So it just won't get indexed just because it has black and green colors on the header and sidebar. It can JUST drop in rankings.

Wrong.....

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14 years ago

Can any one really know the real thing about Google.What works for A might not work for B.Just keep to what works on google for you.

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brittlesnc

14 years ago

I was hoping that mgtarheels could explain his strategy a little more, so far:

1. 10K+ exact searches per month---is this for the main keyword or for all the keywords you target on your site combined?

2. What kind of backlinking do you do and is it a lot of backlinking?

3. And do you go after competitive keywords or keywords that you know you can easily rank for?

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14 years ago

Nice. I use similar strategy

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masterweb 14 years ago

For me, placing Adsense into my site is a very easy task. I'm just looking for some pointers on how often shall I change my Adsense sizes, locations, etc. all for the purposes of testing and retesting to get more clicks.
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retador

14 years ago

Hey guys,

I'm new to this forum but have a question: How much traffic do you need in order to get your sites to get that much of AdSense earnings you are talking about?

I'm saying this probably because of not being able to monetize all the traffic I'm currently having. I have a mediawiki site (like wikipedia) in the travel and tourism market that has over 220 thousand visitors per month. Thats around 400 thousand pageviews per month or so.

In spite of that I'm just making around 80-90 dollars per month on adsense. I have three ads: On on the top (like if you were watching wikipedia with a banner header). The other two ads are on the left side, below the navigation menus. The content in the wiki pages are full content, without any ads. Before I was having ads blended within the content, but no enough good conversions.

I think I must be doing something wrong as I see other people's site having way much less traffic that Im getting and monetizing it much much better than Im doing with this site.

Any advices will be really welcome.

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Originally Posted by retador

I'm new to this forum but have a question: How much traffic do you need in order to get your sites to get that much of AdSense earnings you are talking about?

Do you know if your ads are relevant to the content being displayed? Such a low CTR would indicate they aren't.

You should be able to get at least a CTR of 5% but a lot of the MFA sites push 20 to 30%. With those sort of numbers you could be making some decent cash.

If they are relevant, it's possible that you have too many ads or at least too many in the wrong spots. Try placing one wrapped in content in the top left corner. Place another directly after the content. The 336x280 often performs the best.

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14 years ago

Nice thread here. Alot of fresh info. Thanks guys!

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14 years ago

clickbumped and mgtarheels - thanks to both you guys for some awesome information.

mgtarheels a question for you: clickbumped has explained how many Ad blocks he has and where he has them. Can you share on where and how many ad blocks you use?

Finally, I'm new to adsense but am getting about 1% click-rate per page visit. That seems low and like I should be able to improve it! Any thoughts on what I shoudl be achieving?

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14 years ago

That is a nice step by step practical guide. How many sites do you have up and running?

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deuxlai

14 years ago

Hi guys, just another question regarding adsense, may i know if it's advisable to do multiple micro niche on 1 site or different website?

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Craig McPherson 14 years ago

Originally Posted by deuxlai

may i know if it's advisable to do multiple micro niche on 1 site or different website?

I have 2 sites on laser hair removal and 2 on foot orthotics that do very well.

Obviously completely different content but all 4 rank for their chosen keywords
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Beau58053

14 years ago

this is actually kind of what i do and helped me out

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14 years ago

Does this approach work as well using the EPN or even affiliate products? I ran into a keyword that may not get a lot of Adsense clicks(though they look to pay pretty well) but may instead work better if I get them to my EPN area.

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giseo

14 years ago

what is the totality of your link building then? just on ezine article?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by clickbumped

2.) I do additional research using the Google keyword tools and also check my competition on the page one results (i don't care about page 2). You'll know if you can rank or not by the sites you see on the first page.

what kind of sites make you pass?

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skyzeda

14 years ago

I agree with mgtarheels that this definitely isn't a "long-term sustainable business model" but it's surely a great tool to have in your arsenal. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket though. That way, if the s*** really hits the fan, you aren't back at zero.

I have a few dozen sites like this (with 100% unique quality content) and they perform outstandingly. Many of them actually make more money after replacing AdSense with a high payout affiliate offer. Depending on how well you do your research, it's very easy to get #1 on Bing and Yahoo. I've found that Google takes a little more effort to get high rankings with this type of site.

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14 years ago

How long get $100/Day?

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LTY83

14 years ago

It took me a couple years to get to $100/day however I didn't soley focus on adsense until I realized its potential.

I was checking some data, comparing year to year the other day. The last friday of July 2009 I did around $30 in adsense, the last friday of July in 2010 I did over $350 in adsense. The growth is simply amazing.

I think if you focused on a few sites for 6 months to 8 months and really worked hard keeping fresh content and building relevant links you can hit $100/day. Also make sure to pick the proper niche - so many people pick horrible niches that payout pennies a click, there are many niches out there that you can get $1+/click - go after those.

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Radix

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LTY83

It took me a couple years to get to $100/day however I didn't soley focus on adsense until I realized its potential.

I was checking some data, comparing year to year the other day. The last friday of July 2009 I did around $30 in adsense, the last friday of July in 2010 I did over $350 in adsense. The growth is simply amazing.

I think if you focused on a few sites for 6 months to 8 months and really worked hard keeping fresh content and building relevant links you can hit $100/day. Also make sure to pick the proper niche - so many people pick horrible niches that payout pennies a click, there are many niches out there that you can get $1+/click - go after those.

And pick niches where the majority of your audience is actually shopping for something. People looking to buy are far more inclined to pay attention to ads declaring discounts and sales.

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dagaul101

14 years ago

Impressive stats on making money off Adsense, unfortunately Google doesn't like to advertise the niches that pay well, so many people build sites that only pay out pennies per click

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dipenb

14 years ago

What about backlinks to sites? No matter how good the content are but backlinks plays an important part in rankings. No planning on it at all.

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