Is There a Difference Between N/A Page Rank and 0?

by rbf738
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I was looking at a bunch of articles I wrote for ezine and I noticed that a few of them are PR 1, but also that some of them were either 0 or N/A. I didn't know if there was a difference here like N/A meant it wasn't indexed at all or if I'm just over thinking here.
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  • Profile picture of the author tecHead
    From my experience; (and let me preface this by saying I haven't verified this); a 0 PR tends to mean you've been indexed and there's a possibility of getting some PR. A N/A tends to mean you've not been indexed, yet.

    Again, not verified; just been my experience. Your experiences may vary.

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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      PR 0 - indexed and that's your PR

      PR N/A - Not indexed OR site has been penalized.
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      • Profile picture of the author rbf738
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        PR 0 - indexed and that's your PR

        PR N/A - Not indexed OR site has been penalized.
        Ok. Something I noticed, though, as that I was going through my old Ezine articles was that some are from 2 years ago and a lot of them are N/A, whether it be from last week or 2 years ago. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for it. I'll take a piece of that article and copy it in the search engine and find it. I don't know why they would be penalized, either, because this is over a number of niches rather than a notoriously flagged niche or something. PLUS I use the same method to write all my articles and the ones which are N/A are the same format as those with PRs of 0 or higher.

        So I'm scratching my head on this one.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        PR 0 - indexed and that's your PR

        PR N/A - Not indexed OR site has been penalized.
        There you go...

        Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

        While an unindexed page will report a PR N/A value, PR N/A is not an indication that the page is unindexed or penalized.
        Right, good catch...

        The toolbar is updated once every few months... It is possible that the page HAS BEEN INDEXED, but the Google Toolbar simply has not yet been updated to represent the current status of the page...
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      • Profile picture of the author rjaf
        Something worth remembering about PR is that it is only reported by Google in eleven "buckets" (0-10), with no granularity.

        Your site may show PR 0, but, in reality, be 0.35, 0.4, etc., or perhaps higher, depending on whether Google rounds-up, or not.

        A PR of N/A means that your site is new, and has not yet been subjected to Google's PR algorithm, or is, in effect, banned. New sites start out with a PR of N/A. Having PR of N/A does not necessarily mean that your site is unindexed; I have had sites that are indexed, but PR N/A. Then things progress, and the PR starts to go up. It takes time.
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        • Profile picture of the author inter123
          Does this mean PR N/A does not pass any link juice? If so most of the articles on the ezine and the like are irrelevent, unless perhaps they are backlinked to bring the PR up?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    PR N/A: Your site is new
    PR 0: Your site sucks

    Just joking lol
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    • Profile picture of the author mnonline
      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      PR N/A: Your site is new
      PR 0: Your site sucks

      Just joking lol
      This should do the trick
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  • Profile picture of the author toytruck
    I agree.

    PR: N/A could mean a that your site is new, not indexed, rank can't be calculated or needs to be recalculated or it has been penalized or banned.

    PR: 0 means it has been indexed but google thinks the site doesn't have enough quality backlinks or it has low quality contents/pages.

    Google calculates page ranks quarterly (or more) so you could still improve your PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author aandersen
    While an unindexed page will report a PR N/A value, PR N/A is not an indication that the page is unindexed or penalized.

    PR N/A : at the time that you are checking the page rank there was no page rank reported. (i.e., PR = Null)

    Either, the page (not site) you are checking has been created since the last public PR update and it actually holds PR value but public PR records have not been updated to reflect the change. All pages, regardless of their actual PR value will hold a PR N/A value until the next public PR update. your page could actually be a PR 3 but still show PR N/A because public records have not been updated

    Or, there is are no other pages with enough PR linking to this page to pass sufficient PR to the page so that it can gain its own PR value. In this case the public rank has been recalculated since and still no page rank has been assigned.

    PR 0 : The page existed prior to the last public PR update. It does not mean that the page completely lacks page rank, it means that the page rank was not enough to reach PR 1 (e.g., PR = 0.5). between 0 - 1 still have value unlike n/a which has no value at all

    This is my take on it. I might not be 100% but i bet i am very close
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  • Profile picture of the author aandersen
    not necessarily.

    obviously if the page has no juice to pass, then it will pass no juice. however, it will still count as a backlink and can be seen as a "vote" toward your page. Although, it will not help to increase your page's PR

    on the other hand, if the page is only PR N/A because it is new and was not around durring the last PR update, then it may have plenty of juice to pass.
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  • Originally Posted by rbf738 View Post

    I was looking at a bunch of articles I wrote for ezine and I noticed that a few of them are PR 1, but also that some of them were either 0 or N/A. I didn't know if there was a difference here like N/A meant it wasn't indexed at all or if I'm just over thinking here.

    You have to understand what Toolbar PR represents to understand the difference. When you look at the Toolbar PR you are looking at history. It only gets updated once every few months.

    Toolbar n/a typically means that the LAST time a snapshot was taken of the Google index so that they could map each URL's actual PageRank to the 0-10 Toolbar PR and publish it as a toolbar update, that the URL in question was NOT in their index. But it may very well be indexed now. It might even have an actual PR value of PR2 or PR3 by now but is still showing n/a in the toolbar.

    PR0 typically means that your URL was indexed the last time a Toolbar PR update was made and published. Your URL had PageRank when the last toolbar update was created and published, but it just did not have enough actual PR to be considered a PR1. Again, just because the Toolbar PR shows PR0 now does not mean that the actual PR (the one that counts, the one that is constantly updated, the one that you never know the true value of) is still PR0.

    If your URL was showing a higher PR (like PR4) and suddenly drops to PR0 or n/a, both of these can be a sign of a penalty, but they do not necessarily mean you are penalized.

    I have seen PR6 pages drop to PR1, but the organic traffic (hundreds of thousands of visits per month) remain the same. Then suddenly a few weeks later it pops back up to PR6. So when your PR suddenly drops to PR0 or n/a, it doesn't always indicate a penalty.
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  • Profile picture of the author rbf738
    It's strange though how the N/A ranges in terms of the articles it's showing up on. I've got articles from 2 years ago showing N/A so it's not an issue with it being too new, granted I haven't built any backlinks to most of those articles.

    A really good example is articles I wrote maybe in December of last year and even created a handful of backlinks to so Google has no reason to not know they're there, yet they're listed N/A. Then I've got other articles written around the exact same time, same niche, same everything with the same backlinks and they're showing PR 1 or 2.

    There just doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason for why some of these are showing N/A. I can't see being penalized when I don't mess with the equation at all between so many articles.
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