One page Vs off line SEO

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Can the Expert Warriors help on this question?

Can a new website with well optimized on page SEO beat sites in SERP that are not optimized for on page SEO, but has hundreds of back links and have PR3 or PR4 rankings?

I have come across cases where the first two google pages are occupied by PR3 or PR4 websites that have poor on page SEO (Title, URL, Meta keyword etc), but have several back links. So the question is can my new website beat these oldies with just good On page SEO without lots of back links?

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  • Profile picture of the author John Williamson
    If you mean on-page SEO, then yes it is very important to have the right tags (title, meta, keywords, h1, h2, etc.) but I would think you'd still need some backlinks to beat a PR3 or PR4 that already has backlinks, especially if they've been around a while.
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  • Profile picture of the author Love_Money
    I stand corrected. I meant on page SEO. Corrected above
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    • Profile picture of the author FredJones
      Do on-page SEO - a site with better on-page SEO, I believe, will beat one with lesser on-page SEO with a fewer number of backlinks of equivalent quality.

      So getting on-page SEO right is important. You SEO effrts and time will stand a great chance to become reduced.
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      • Profile picture of the author McBrett
        @LoveMoney... Since your page is new, it could continue to slowly climb up a few more spots before it settles.

        However, I would still point a few back links at your own page. Even if you just do some really simple link building like a couple directory links and an article that can help out considerably.

        Also, is it the homepage of these PR3 and PR4 websites that are ranking higher than you or an internal page? If it's the homepage they'll probably be a bit more difficult to hurdle, although still very do-able since it sounds like your page is much more keyword focused than the competition.

        Good luck on crushing the competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author Love_Money
    Thank you all. Currently my site is in the 10 the page I do have four backlinks. So I need to wait and watch and build links in the meanwhile.

    Thanks again; Without the help of warriors I could not have progressed
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony Marriott
      In theory you are right a new site with the right on page seo and few backlinks can beat pr3 and even pr4 sites for specific keywords.

      I would only expect this to happen if your domain name was exactly the keyword and was a .org/net/com as this would be a powerfull boost when combined with keywords in title/ header/description.

      Also new websites seem to get a bit of a boost by Google which can fade after a few weeks. I'm guessing a bit but this may be to give new sites a little extra exposure and enable them to start getting natural backlinks (else how would they ever get any if you follow google's guidlines exactly?)

      Long term though you need to build backlinks
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  • Profile picture of the author McBrett
    Def Agree with @TonyMarriot... The question is not, Should I do on-page optimization OR link building for my website.

    If you're serious and want results, you'll do both.
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  • We cannot generalize. The SERPs depends on the bigger picture, your keyword competition level, how fiercely the other competitors are marketing, etc. The best approach is to concentrate on both, first on your on-page SEO then with ongoing link building.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevenlee
    Originally Posted by Love_Money View Post

    Can the Expert Warriors help on this question?

    Can a new website with well optimized on page SEO beat sites in SERP that are not optimized for on page SEO, but has hundreds of back links and have PR3 or PR4 rankings?

    I have come across cases where the first two google pages are occupied by PR3 or PR4 websites that have poor on page SEO (Title, URL, Meta keyword etc), but have several back links. So the question is can my new website beat these oldies with just good On page SEO without lots of back links?

    Thanks
    This true that On page SEO is a very important factor for ranking in Google if you have good on page seo then you can come quickly on top in any search engine ranking. But back links are also important for SEO point of view if you have good on page SEO then you can you need less back links in compare to old website.
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  • Profile picture of the author clickbumped
    This can definitely help. On page SEO has brought me to the top of some competitive keywords without many backlinks. But still, it takes some time because the search engines look at backlinks as a trust factor. The more backlinks (good backlinks) you have the more likely you'll end up beating them out.
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    • Profile picture of the author minternet
      Yea, it's both. Onpage then offpage. Onpage is easy, offpage is the harder more long term part
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  • Profile picture of the author findall
    no back links are also very important to get good position in serp
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