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Google penalized Angela, Paul and Terry? Overdoing of profile links will result in this?

by Aryan
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I read this at some other forum. Made a quick search.. It looks nobody didn't started a thread about this..

For the Keyword "Backlinks" Angela, Paul and Terry were ranking at the first page of Google.

Before:

Angela - Backlinks: What they are and how to get them: GoArticles.com
Google Position for "Backlinks" - 4
PR - 5

Paul - Welcome to Pauls Quality Backlinks
Google Position for "Backlinks" - 7
PR - 5

Terry - Backlinks: The Awful Truth | Backlinks: The Backlinks Black Belt Report
Google Position for "Backlinks" - 9
PR - 5

Now:

Angela - Backlinks: What they are and how to get them: GoArticles.com
Google Position for "Backlinks" - Not in Top 100
PR - 3

Paul - Welcome to Pauls Quality Backlinks
Google Position for "Backlinks" - 56
PR - 3

Terry - Backlinks: The Awful Truth | Backlinks: The Backlinks Black Belt Report
Google Position for "Backlinks" - 14
PR - 3

Google started penalizing sites Profile Links as a major link building strategy?. I hope NO. It could be because of Overdoing Profile Links and the footprints. Angela and Paul use same usernames across all their profile links. Thats a clear footprint for Google.

Please shoot your comments on profile links..
(Though he may not like profile links, I'm expecting PhilipSEO's comments. I'm his great fan! )
#angela #google #links #overdoing #paul #penalized #profile #result #terry
  • Profile picture of the author adamv
    When I do a "G" search for the term backlinks I'm seeing a goarticles article from Terry Kyle at #4 and his backlink forum right under that at #5. I don't know where Angela's goarticles article went but who knows, it may come back again. Terry's stuff is ranking so I'm pretty sure that type of linking is still working.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lighterbandit
      I was kinda curious as to when they would catch on. Like anything else you can only do it for some long until someone catches on. Im sure everything will be back to normal shortly!
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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        I just looked at my G search again and there is a squidoo lens ranking that I never noticed in the past. The lens is at position #3 and guess what kind of backlinks make up a good portion of the links they have??? You guessed it, forum profiles.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
          Originally Posted by adamv View Post

          I just looked at my G search again and there is a squidoo lens ranking that I never noticed in the past. The lens is at position #3 and guess what kind of backlinks make up a good portion of the links they have??? You guessed it, forum profiles.
          The squidoo article was languishing away on page 2 for awhile, but they have been doing so backlinking on a massive scale over the past few weeks.

          Time to crash. College football starts tomorrow (yea yea, it mini-started on Thursday), and it is going to kick some major arse. The best time of the year.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by Lighterbandit View Post

        I was kinda curious as to when they would catch on. Like anything else you can only do it for some long until someone catches on. Im sure everything will be back to normal shortly!

        yea, like blog comment spam that has been around since the very first blog and still works:rolleyes:

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    • Profile picture of the author Aryan
      Originally Posted by adamv View Post

      When I do a "G" search for the term backlinks I'm seeing a goarticles article from Terry Kyle at #4 and his backlink forum right under that at #5. I don't know where Angela's goarticles article went but who knows, it may come back again. Terry's stuff is ranking so I'm pretty sure that type of linking is still working.
      Myabe its because of Geo Locations. I checked using USA IP!

      I never said Profile Links are not working. But I'm trying to say that most people miss Link Diversity and they leave lot of footprints with Profiles.
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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        Originally Posted by Aryan View Post

        Myabe its because of Geo Locations. I checked using USA IP!

        I never said Profile Links are not working. But I'm trying to say that most people miss Link Diversity and they leave lot of footprints with Profiles.
        I agree that link diversity is very important. I was just hoping this wouldn't become another "fill in the blank" is dead post.

        Forum profile linking is still very much alive but once again, I agree that diversity is a very good idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
    A few random thoughts ;-)

    (1) google doesn't "penalize" links. google could certain devalue incoming links, but using the use "penalize" is nonsense. That's the type of nonsense word that you would expect to hear over at DP, not on here.

    (2) None of the sites in the first 2 pages rely on only one type of backlink, nor should they. If you actually look at Angela's backlinks, for instance, they come from a wide assortment of types of sites. In fact, one would be pretty short-sighted to use only one type of backlink. Diversify people. I'm pretty sure that Angela and Paul would concur with that (and I of course know Terry would).

    (3) The competition is fierce and ongoing. Tons of people want the top listings, but obviously only a few can get them. Our forum, for instance, has taken up one of the spots on the first half of page 1. That is obviously one less spot for others to occupy. The competition also includes the Wikipedia backlink article (which is heavily backlinked to), backlinkwatch and an Exact Match Domain for the keyword "backlinks."

    (4) The rankings for this particular keyword are highly volatile. It is not uncommon for one site to move from between say #4 and #12 hourly.

    (5) Many of us have other things we are focusing on. Terry and I for instance are currently engaged in multiple JVs (and real JVs, not the "i'll spam my email list with your affiliate link" fake JVs) which take up 99% of our time at the moment. Currently, we are involved heavily in domain buying and that is eating up most of our time, as well as running the forum of course. At this point, it just really isn't worth my time to focus on getting the top ranking when there are so many easier keywords to go after, with higher traffic, and more $$$$$.

    (6) It seems like Angela and Paul haven't done that much backlinking to their respective sites in quite awhile, and the massive decrease in link velocity unfortunately can sometimes (but certainly not always, or even a majority of the time) result in some movement backwards.

    Tom


    Originally Posted by Aryan View Post

    I read this at some other forum. Made a quick search.. It looks nobody didn't started a thread about this..

    For the Keyword "Backlinks" Angela, Paul and Terry were ranking at the first page of Google.

    Before:

    Angela - Backlinks: What they are and how to get them: GoArticles.com
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - 4
    PR - 5

    Paul - Welcome to Pauls Quality Backlinks
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - 7
    PR - 5

    Terry - Backlinks: The Awful Truth | Backlinks: The Backlinks Black Belt Report
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - 9
    PR - 5

    Now:

    Angela - Backlinks: What they are and how to get them: GoArticles.com
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - Not in Top 100
    PR - 3

    Paul - Welcome to Pauls Quality Backlinks
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - 56
    PR - 3

    Terry - Backlinks: The Awful Truth | Backlinks: The Backlinks Black Belt Report
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - 14
    PR - 3

    Google started penalizing Profile Links?. I hope NO. It could be because of Overdoing Profile Links and the footprints. Angela and Paul use same usernames across all their profile links. Thats a clear footprint for Google.

    Please shoot your comments on profile links..
    (Though he may not like profile links, I'm expecting PhilipSEO's comments. I'm his great fan! )
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    • Profile picture of the author Aryan
      Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

      A few random thoughts ;-)

      (1) google doesn't "penalize" links. google could certain devalue incoming links, but using the use "penalize" is nonsense. That's the type of nonsense word that you would expect to hear over at DP, not on here.
      I never said Google penalized the links. Read my post again. Don't say Google don't penalize Sites. They do penalize sites for link manipulation (The great make money online example of John Chow). Whats there for DP to do here?

      Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

      (2) None of the sites in the first 2 pages rely on only one type of backlink, nor should they. If you actually look at Angela's backlinks, for instance, they come from a wide assortment of types of sites. In fact, one would be pretty short-sighted to use only one type of backlink. Diversify people. I'm pretty sure that Angela and Paul would concur with that (and I of course know Terry would).
      If you check Angela and Paul's links most of the Links are from Profile pages. They do have other diversified links too but the majority comes from profiles and that too have footprints which makes Big G think they are manipulated.

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      (4) The rankings for this particular keyword are highly volatile. It is not uncommon for one site to move from between say #4 and #12 hourly.
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      Dropping from 5th position to 100+ positions doesn't seem VOLATILE to me!

      Tom, I never accused these people (Angela, Paul and Terry) for creating a system called Profile Links (though its obviously spamming) and selling it to tons of people. I know profile links are working. My objective is to get different ideas on how to do profile links in a right way. Please don't make this counter productive!
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      • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
        Originally Posted by Aryan View Post

        I never said Google penalized the links. Read my post again. Don't say Google don't penalize Sites. They do penalize sites for link manipulation (The great make money online example of John Chow). Whats there for DP to do here?
        This is what I call the STFU or "Fight Club" penalty.
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        • Profile picture of the author joshgreen
          lol,Profile links are powerful!They do work and there is no penalty
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by Aryan View Post

        Google started penalizing Profile Links?.
        Originally Posted by Aryan View Post

        I never said Google penalized the links.

        :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by Aryan View Post


        If you check Angela and Paul's links most of the Links are from Profile pages. They do have other diversified links too but the majority comes from profiles and that too have footprints which makes Big G think they are manipulated.
        Certainly using the same username across all of the profiles is probably not a good idea. But, Google wouldn't penalize them for the incoming links as it would be too easy for competitors to manipulate Google by simply spamming their competition into oblivion.

        Now, i'm not quite sure how you know Angela uses a majority of profile links to her GoArticle as it has >2000 links in Yahoo Site Explorer, and Yahoo will only return 1000 results per page. You also can't do a full SEO Spyglass analysis since it is to an interior page of GoArticles.


        Originally Posted by Aryan View Post


        Dropping from 5th position to 100+ positions doesn't seem VOLATILE to me!
        Actually, i've seen sites jump between between 500+ positions overnight, continually for months. **** happens. One of my friends has a page that continually goes from page 1 to something like 700, and back again, constantly.

        I do note that Angela's other site, the one on a page she actually owns, is still at #1 for "Angela."

        Originally Posted by Aryan View Post

        Tom, I never accused these people (Angela, Paul and Terry) for creating a system called Profile Links (though its obviously spamming) and selling it to tons of people. I know profile links are working. My objective is to get different ideas on how to do profile links in a right way. Please don't make this counter productive!
        LOL, I'm not being counterproductive at all

        For backlinks, it's not really that complicated.

        Use a variety of types of backlinks. For profile links, mixup your usenames, mixup the links you use (i.e., spin them so you don't always have backlinks to X, Y and Z in your profiles), do a double pass if you can, etc.

        The only wasted backlink is a backlink not built

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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

      At this point, it just really isn't worth my time to focus on getting the top ranking when there are so many easier keywords to go after, with higher traffic, and more $$$$$.
      Bingo. thats why I would never even bother going after that spot at all. By the very nature of it (backlinkers auto spamming to rank for the term backlinks) it will continue to be an arms race. As for google you could look at it two ways. You can think they will one day slap the sites (discount all the links) or you can look at porn, gambling sites etc where they consider the niche so depraved they can't even bother monitoring its results.
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    • Profile picture of the author semeasy
      Follow Tom Goodwin 's advice. He seems to be as knowledgeable as it gets.

      Thanks for the knowledge that you share all over this forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    I think that "backlinks" keyword has high competition, so there is hard to keep the top ranking at Google for long time because folks want the keyword for the making money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rock Solid
    I think the overall weight of profile backlinks has just been diminished, same as forum signature links and social media backlinks. I don't think Google was specifically targeting these 3...
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  • Profile picture of the author seoforu
    No I do not think Google penalized Angela and Paul because of Profile links..there must be some other reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    Ugh. Penalize?

    Penalize?

    Ugh.
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  • Profile picture of the author illank86
    are the big G care about the link we get...???? i dont think so, coz i have no problem using angela trick till now.... but sometimes it problem, i said sometimes...
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Chapman
    OK, after reading all the comments above, is it still worthwhile continuing to use Angela's backlinks ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by Richard Chapman View Post

      OK, after reading all the comments above, is it still worthwhile continuing to use Angela's backlinks ?
      No, don't use profile links. I prefer my competition to be easy.

      Also note that this thread is discussing profile links, not "Angela's links."
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    "If you check Angela and Paul's links most of the Links are from Profile pages. They do have other diversified links too but the majority comes from profiles and that too have footprints which makes Big G think they are manipulated."

    Nonsense, just utter nonsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author adam westrop
    You are isolating the effectiveness of this technique.

    Instead why dont you do a poll and ask for people who have used profile links to say whether they are effective for rankings or not.... Chances are 90-95% would say yes (including me).
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Profiles links will in time, fade away.

      Google has got to consider how to value incoming links.

      IMHO, forum profile linking, just for links, is a waste of time.

      It's not how to use forums. The truth is, join DP, WF, NMF,
      and a handful (yes, handful) and BE ACTIVE! The link juice is
      so much more powerful. It builds trust, authority, relationships,
      that lead to the very way that google says to get a site
      going.

      Not helping has always been looked upon as a penalty. It's not.

      You never really know how a site is #1. Too many people are quick to
      jump on the good 'ol backlink bandwagon. A lot of us chuckle, because
      we get to #1 with the right backlinks. And don't waste time getting them.
      Getting to the top is a whole lot more intricate than backlinks. If it were
      only that easy.

      Bgmacaw is priceless. Some here do indeed STFU about how we push a site
      over the finish line.

      It stands to reason that since nofollow has not worked for google to eliminate
      spam, the man behind the curtain would pull a different lever. Some of you
      do Wizard of Oz SEO and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author younganddirty
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post


        It's not how to use forums. The truth is, join DP, WF, NMF,
        and a handful (yes, handful) and BE ACTIVE! The link juice is
        so much more powerful. It builds trust, authority, relationships,
        that lead to the very way that google says to get a site
        going.Paul
        But you also need variety.

        You can only submit your site to eza, goarticles and the majors one so many times, before you will see no return on time for it.
        I mean lets face it, there are so many article directories that are worth something. I bought a program the other day, it goes off the articledashboard and few other platforms. Most of them are hacked, abandon, etc.

        Blog comment, still effective method. The problem, sometimes hard to put your keyword there, you have leave a great comment, sometimes the owner if you are competitor will not approve your comment.

        Forums: This is really great method, I like. But like with goarticles and eza you see no point, you do your 10 move on, blah blah. Also some forums do not want a weight loss product in say a computer forum.

        Dont get me wrong, a good thing about the major forums, is that you can network, etc. Become the expert in niche at that forum. Etc. But as far 1000000 post, it really has very little seo effect. I say the most you get about 1-3 maybe little higher from it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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          She's number one for Angela.

          angela - Google Search

          Does that mean profile links are now good again?
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

            She's number one for Angela.

            angela - Google Search

            Does that mean profile links are now good again?
            For a money term? nope it wouldn't be good evidence. The world is not lining up to rank number one for the word "angela".
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        You never really know how a site is #1. Too many people are quick to
        jump on the good 'ol backlink bandwagon. A lot of us chuckle, because
        we get to #1 with the right backlinks.
        So then, you actually agree with the folks you're chuckling at...it is about backlinks.

        And don't waste time getting them.

        Paul
        No, of course not...your keyword-stuffed sig just magically appeared all by itself.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post


        It's not how to use forums. The truth is, join DP, WF, NMF,
        and a handful (yes, handful) and BE ACTIVE! The link juice is
        so much more powerful.
        You just said a very very very bad word.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    I don't think Google or any other search engine penalize these backlinks. Because Angela, Paul and Terry only introduce other websites and if Google wants to penalize Angela, Paul and Terry backlinks, it should penalize all of those websites that they introduced too and its not possible. But maybe the value of profile backlinks is reduced in Google ranking algorithm.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aryan
    You never really know how a site is #1. Too many people are quick to
    jump on the good 'ol backlink bandwagon. A lot of us chuckle, because
    we get to #1 with the right backlinks. And don't waste time getting them.
    Getting to the top is a whole lot more intricate than backlinks. If it were
    only that easy.
    But in most small niches number of backlinks play a major role! Revenue is also there in such niches.
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  • Profile picture of the author markfb
    Perhaps a more experienced link builder can answer this question for me?
    Over the last 12 monthe I have been using these "profile links" as part of my link building strategy which also includes all the usual methods such as submitting articles, blog commenting, directory submission, web2.0 linkwheels etc. etc.

    BUT... I have noticed over the last 2 months the "profile links" have disappeared when I check them with several different tools. All the other types of back links are still there.

    Last month I outsourced to 3 different linkbuilders 5 packages of "profile links" each (total 15 packages).I then followed my usual methods of getting my backlinks indexed (which has worked for the last 12 months) and only 1 profile has been indexed todate.

    I know that these profiles and links were created correctly as I have checked all of them manually.

    All the other links which were built in the same time span using different methods have been indexed and seem to be sticking.

    So why is it that only "profile links" are disappearing even though the profiles are still there and why are the new profiles not being indexed?

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author younganddirty
    I think google is trying to make an example out of somebody. I think they just manually went in and said hey lets scare the profile link builders, what is the best way to do that? so they knock angela and everybody else down that google thinks has an influence.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ketou
    I don't know why people say google does not penalize sites for spam links but it does.

    That's interesting!
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  • Profile picture of the author calhounevans
    Do not upgrade, then change there to be punished. You should follow the standard rules, while optimizing the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author lroufs
    I would also like to hear something from Angela. Because I still buy her profilesites every month....
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    • Profile picture of the author thebarksmeow
      Originally Posted by lroufs View Post

      I would also like to hear something from Angela. Because I still buy her profilesites every month....
      I just can't believe people are still buying those. I don't know why people wouldn't want to find their own sites. :rolleyes:

      Her brand power is amazing. Just like people lining up to get the iphone 4 even though they knew it had issues.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by thebarksmeow View Post

        I just can't believe people are still buying those. I don't know why people wouldn't want to find their own sites. :rolleyes:

        Her brand power is amazing. Just like people lining up to get the iphone 4 even though they knew it had issues.
        Priced at $5/month, how many subscribers still subscribe and likely don't even think they are still subscribing? hundreds and hundreds I would bet. Great continuity pricing.
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    Link quality trumps link quantity; concentrate on getting fewer but higher quality links. I would not discount Nofollow links totally either, do still have value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    And hopefully the overzealous security measures put in place earlier this year, keep this service going...for her sake Just a side note, although the packets say they work on 1 computer, that is not entirely true. They also only work on 1 ip address. If I open on my laptop at one place, go out for wifi coffee, try and open it there...lockdown.
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  • Profile picture of the author disolmodo78
    It is beneficial to stick to the standard rules while optimizing your website. If you concentrate on lots of updates, changes will get penalized.
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    It is useful to follow the standard rules and optimize your website. If you focus on a lot of updates, changes may be penalized.
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    • Profile picture of the author orionhunter1986
      Oh dear! I have used and using angela and paul links but i know you didn't directly said that Google is penalizing them. I guess probably with the profile links only but angela and paul links are diversified. Google really doing there homework nowadays! Keep our faces like this every time they make an update.
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    It is advantageous to stick to the normal rules while optimizing your website. If you focus on lots of updates, changes are punished.
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  • Profile picture of the author bollinger
    I also think this could be the result of the high competition of this keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    This thread becomes somewhat bizarre. Someone ban those bots/spammers please.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
      I think I can tell you why you may think you're getting penalized for using forum profile/ Angela backlinks. If you hit your site with a couple thousand forum profile backlinks than you had pretty much better continue blasting your site for the next 30 years. Here's why.

      Forum profile backlinks get deleted by the forum owners at a high rate. So let's say you blast your site with 2000 forum profile backlinks using one of these crappy services you'll find on this forum or Xrumer, ect. After about 3-4 weeks about half or more of these will probably be gone - deleted by the forum moderators.

      So what happens when google sees that you had 2000 backlinks but a couple of weeks later you only have 800? Google will sandbox your site about 50% of the time. What that means is that your site will disapear from google search but it will still be indexed using - site:.

      So Google is not penalizing you for getting profile backlinks. They are penalizing your site for loosing most of your backlinks so fast. And then you get to wait at least 2 months or more until your site comes back into the serps - if it ever does!!

      The reason why the "more experienced guys" on this forum aren't mentioning this or have never experienced this is probably because they just continue to blast the sh_t out of their sites day in and day out with forum profile backlinks. Does that work? Probably. But I have no interest in constantly building thousands of backlinks to my site. I focus on the types of backlinks that will probably not get removed en mass. Especially since I build lots of sites. And I rank on page 1 all the time - and STAY there.

      I know this because I tested this. Few months ago I built 10, 5 page Amazon sites. And using the advice from a course I bought in this forum, I used their recommended service to blast my sites with 2500 forum profile backlinks. I also got blog, social bookmarking, article marketing links. But the vast majority (90%) of the links were forum profile backlinks. And I didn't build anymore backlinks after that because this course said not to.

      So within a couple weeks all my sites were on page 2 of Google. Then, about a month after I hit all these sites with the 2500 forum profile backlinks, 7 out of the 10 sites were SANDBOXED!!

      They were sandboxed about 3 months ago, so don't give me that BS that it's the Google dance! And yes I tried building links over the last 3 months but it ain't workin. So I have now abandoned these sites for now. Eventually the sandbox penalty will end and they'll probably come back. But this penalty can last anywhere from 3-6 months.

      In Conclusion

      So this is what can happen if you want to blast your site with tons of backlinks from a source where most will get removed. Yes it will hurt your sites rankings - unless you blast away forever.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
        Profile links work a charm and will continue doing so for quite some time as will diversity and good content. Every week there's some new panic over whether these links are gonna remain useful or not. Of course they are.
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by TheAdsenseGuy View Post

        I think I can tell you why you may think you're getting penalized for using forum profile/ Angela backlinks. If you hit your site with a couple thousand forum profile backlinks than you had pretty much better continue blasting your site for the next 30 years. Here's why.

        Forum profile backlinks get deleted by the forum owners at a high rate. So let's say you blast your site with 2000 forum profile backlinks using one of these crappy services you'll find on this forum or Xrumer, ect. After about 3-4 weeks about half or more of these will probably be gone - deleted by the forum moderators.

        So what happens when google sees that you had 2000 backlinks but a couple of weeks later you only have 800? Google will sandbox your site about 50% of the time. What that means is that your site will disapear from google search but it will still be indexed using - site:.

        So Google is not penalizing you for getting profile backlinks. They are penalizing your site for loosing most of your backlinks so fast. And then you get to wait at least 2 months or more until your site comes back into the serps - if it ever does!!

        The reason why the "more experienced guys" on this forum aren't mentioning this or have never experienced this is probably because they just continue to blast the sh_t out of their sites day in and day out with forum profile backlinks. Does that work? Probably. But I have no interest in constantly building thousands of backlinks to my site. I focus on the types of backlinks that will probably not get removed en mass. Especially since I build lots of sites. And I rank on page 1 all the time - and STAY there.

        I know this because I tested this. Few months ago I built 10, 5 page Amazon sites. And using the advice from a course I bought in this forum, I used their recommended service to blast my sites with 2500 forum profile backlinks. I also got blog, social bookmarking, article marketing links. But the vast majority (90%) of the links were forum profile backlinks. And I didn't build anymore backlinks after that because this course said not to.

        So within a couple weeks all my sites were on page 2 of Google. Then, about a month after I hit all these sites with the 2500 forum profile backlinks, 7 out of the 10 sites were SANDBOXED!!

        They were sandboxed about 3 months ago, so don't give me that BS that it's the Google dance! And yes I tried building links over the last 3 months but it ain't workin. So I have now abandoned these sites for now. Eventually the sandbox penalty will end and they'll probably come back. But this penalty can last anywhere from 3-6 months.

        In Conclusion

        So this is what can happen if you want to blast your site with tons of backlinks from a source where most will get removed. Yes it will hurt your sites rankings - unless you blast away forever.
        If what your saying is correct then someone could just blast their competitiors site with a 2500 profile link package then when the moderators delete the profiles and the backlinks disappear they'll get put in the sandbox. Seems crazy.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    I for one, believe profile links are discredited. I don't believe they work anymore, not like they used to at least. I thought that for a while, but it was THIS month, actually the last 2 weeks where I really believe they are starting to become useless.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fiskegrej
    In the past 7 days i have worked the pauls april backlinks and none of them is indexed I think Google just wont index the packs.
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  • Profile picture of the author strategic seo services
    Originally Posted by Aryan View Post

    I read this at some other forum. Made a quick search.. It looks nobody didn't started a thread about this..

    For the Keyword "Backlinks" Angela, Paul and Terry were ranking at the first page of Google.

    Before:

    Angela - Backlinks: What they are and how to get them: GoArticles.com
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - 4
    PR - 5

    Paul - Welcome to Pauls Quality Backlinks
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - 7
    PR - 5

    Terry - Backlinks: The Awful Truth | Backlinks: The Backlinks Black Belt Report
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - 9
    PR - 5

    Now:

    Angela - Backlinks: What they are and how to get them: GoArticles.com
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - Not in Top 100
    PR - 3

    Paul - Welcome to Pauls Quality Backlinks
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - 56
    PR - 3

    Terry - Backlinks: The Awful Truth | Backlinks: The Backlinks Black Belt Report
    Google Position for "Backlinks" - 14
    PR - 3

    Google started penalizing sites Profile Links as a major link building strategy?. I hope NO. It could be because of Overdoing Profile Links and the footprints. Angela and Paul use same usernames across all their profile links. Thats a clear footprint for Google.

    Please shoot your comments on profile links..
    (Though he may not like profile links, I'm expecting PhilipSEO's comments. I'm his great fan! )
    This is Not At All the case. Think about it this way....if it were the case, then I could Easily kick my competition's butt for a keyword by blasting his site with 1000's of backlinks, using the same profile name. That would be too easy (and nice to do ) but , unfortunately, it's not the case. Inbound Links can never hurt your website.
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    • Profile picture of the author umarimtiaz3
      @Adsense Guy.....suppose what you have said it is true....then let me know how Angela's website is coming at #2 spot in google and it has been still at number 2nd for a year....
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      • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
        Originally Posted by umarimtiaz3 View Post

        @Adsense Guy.....suppose what you have said it is true....then let me know how Angela's website is coming at #2 spot in google and it has been still at number 2nd for a year....
        Because she's a pretty popular person in the IM world and has plenty of other sites linking to her. Not just profile links. Actually, if you do a quick scan of her backlinks you'll find that a good majority of them aren't profile links at all.

        I'd say it'd be nearly impossible to find a site ranking high for a moderately competitive keyword / phrase with nothing but profile links.

        Do they have their place? Maybe. But, and this is especially true since the Panda update, using just profile links isn't going to do much of anything at all.

        Diversity is VERY important now. Unless you've got very little competition or are churning-and-burning sites without caring about their longevity.
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        • Profile picture of the author seoblacksmith
          For those who are still working with their web reputations. Be mindful that and excessive amount of links creation and link attrition affects your credibility.

          Okay, here are the tips you guys should keep:

          1. It's okay to have multiple profile links. keep in mind to use different profile names and landing pages. preferably different keywords and deep-links.

          2. Having thousand of forum profiles are not good if you're not using all of them. Forum sites removes inactive members.

          3. Angela's, Paul's, and Terry's profile links are still useful. Support your profile with a juice coming from your SEO efforts.

          4. Limit your profile creation and provide a operational schedule to monitor your profile use.

          5. Lastly, again, "Overdoing such profile links won't do good if you are doing it wrong"
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    Props. go out to the two spammers above.
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  • Profile picture of the author remodeler
    I think the 2 may actually be 1 who is using multiple profiles.
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