Google Rankings Dropped Over The Past Few Days!

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Hi,

I noticed that quite a number of my WP blogs have dropped in or rather lost their rankings over the past few days for no rhyme or reason.

These are all content blogs that have been around for months, and some even years. And there is constant updating of content and backlinking from quality sites.

All along, they are ranked in top 10 in Google and suddenly, I cannot find them ranking for their keywords anymore though a site search shows that they are all indexed in Google.

Has anyone noticed this happening to your WP blogs? It appears to me that the results of the search engines for my target keywords have been reshuffled and even poor quality sites are ranking.

My questions are:

1. Have you experienced this recently?

2. What have you done that has helped you to get your blogs back to top 10?

3. What is actually happening?

Your feedback and comments are appreciated.
#days #dropped #google #past #rankings
  • Profile picture of the author hastings2111
    I have heard too many stories like this. This is why I would really like to find a method that doesn't have anything to do with google controlling my fate.
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    • Profile picture of the author rondo
      Originally Posted by hastings2111 View Post

      I have heard too many stories like this. This is why I would really like to find a method that doesn't have anything to do with google controlling my fate.
      That means paid ads, or list building, or both.

      Andrew
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      • Profile picture of the author magicmarcus
        watch the competing sites...

        if one day it says results 1-10 of 100,211,291

        and the next day its 1-10 of 98,001,002

        you know that the index is catching up and it will probably put your ranking back.

        many times it is just the server you are puling from at the time... google has many servers and even here in my office i have many computers and some will give different results depending on which server its pulling from.

        don't stress it ... just check it periodically and see whats going on.

        also... new sites fluctuate... so expect that
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Could be a lot of things happening...I'll give just one of unlimited possiblities:

    Let's say you got a good link on a PR5 site. The webmaster of that page adds 10 more links to that page. Your PR could drop enough to cause your rank to drop quite a bit, if it's your single, most powerful link.

    Because you still have the link, you don't even notice any difference in your links.

    And this is only one example. There's really too many to list or even know...

    The next step is see if you got hit by a know penalty...? For example, did multiple pages seem to drop the same number of spots, say from #5 to #35 (drop 30 spots) and another page drop from #7 t #37 (30 spots also). This would be an indication of a site-wide penalty.

    Did you do a competition check before entering the niche? If so, did you do one again? One good SEOer in a small niche could bump you waaaaay down and maybe your competition is now better than it was.

    *Note to SEOers - I use the term "PR" as a generic term for any/all linking benefits...Not for the little green trinket in the googlebar.
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  • Profile picture of the author dafiz
    I have actually seen the reverse happen to me in the last couple of weeks, so I can not complain.

    I reckon Kurt is on the money with his reply, especially your competition, they could be building tons more quality links than what you have been in the past several weeks. Also if you are mainly using link directories for backlinks, then you will see very little link love from Google IMHO.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Tee
    Hmmm.. I have noticed quite a lot of strange activity from Google recently. Some have been like yours and even more crazier than yours.

    1) Rank #1 in some highly searched keywords jumped to #14 and jumped back to #1 again
    2) Rank #15 dropped to nowhere and came back up at #7
    3) Rank #10 jump to #30 and stays there.

    I think it's random google dance. But often, i think perhaps something good is going to happen to your site.

    Anyway, glad to see another fellow singaporean, add me in facebook? Perhaps we could meet up some time?
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  • Profile picture of the author Scrambler
    I don't think it is WP. I have a few month old Xsite pro site that was working its way to page number 1 on Google. Now I can barely find it. I did put adsense ads on it shortly before that happened, however this has not hurt my other sites when I put on the ads.

    Based on other posts I believe we all end up on the wrong end of the google dance every so often. I am sure my site will start ranking again, at least it's still number 2 on yahoo.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davion Wong
    Guys, just to clarify, my WP blogs have been conditioned with my special link formula and content posting to make them rank well.

    A lot of the blogs have been around for months, and some like what I mentioned even years. These are not new crappy-content websites that you can bump easily.

    A lot of backlinking has been done properly at high quality, high PR blogs, websites and directories. And guess what, a lot of social media networking has been done as well.

    When I see some crappy sites with no content and no backlinks up there ranking in top 10, I get really suspicious and worried.

    And when I say "dropped", I mean I cannot even find my blogs within the first 10 pages of Google's search results.

    What is exactly happening now? I hope this is temporary. Btw, George, for your sites, how long does it take for the "dancing" to complete?

    If Google does not give a good answer to that, then it is going to penalize a lot of webmasters who produce quality content.
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    • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
      Originally Posted by Davion Wong View Post

      Guys, just to clarify, my WP blogs have been conditioned with my special link formula and content posting to make them rank well.
      Apparently your special formula is no longer so special. Just saying.

      I'm currently running over 800 seo campaigns on WP blogs and have seen nothing like you are indicating. Seo isn't so easy where you can put a special blend of links together and think you have it figured out for life. Either your sites are losing link juice or you're being penalized for something in your formula.

      Get in there and explore your variables and get it tweaked.
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      • Profile picture of the author claycath
        Davion, I have had the exact same thing happen to 4 of my sites. All on page 1, with plenty of quality content and backlinks and suddenly they disappeared. I had not done anything to them to cause the google dance. I'm still waiting for them to come back
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  • Profile picture of the author JayVance
    Davion, I've had one of my sites disappear for a whole week when it was on page 2 of the keyword I was targeting then it came back after a week. I also have a lot of weird fluctuations, especially after I have added several backlinks to a site.

    I do not try to understand the Google monster, I just try to not anger it. =]
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  • Profile picture of the author Davion Wong
    To add on, those affected WP blogs have been in Top 5 for most of my keywords in the Big 3, Google, Yahoo and MSN.

    Strange thing is, my blogs are still holding on to the top spots in Yahoo and MSN, and they have only disappeared from Google.

    I certainly hope that the dance will be over and they will get back soon. This is the first time something like this has happened. And it's crazy and weird enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davion Wong
    Hi Mattlaclear,

    I have a huge network of WP blogs across different C-class ips and have done a lot of fine-tuning and tweaking along the way. I do agree that SEO is never about putting a blend of links together.

    What I am finding strange is, quite a number of my authority blogs are still holding steady in their rankings, but a number of them are experiencing the "google rankings drop" that I was talking about. And all of them go through the same SEO campaigns and formula I put them through.

    That is why I find it really strange. I certainly don't hope that the same happens to your WP blogs. It came really suddenly to me...
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Davion Wong View Post

      Hi Mattlaclear,

      I have a huge network of WP blogs across different C-class ips and have done a lot of fine-tuning and tweaking along the way. I do agree that SEO is never about putting a blend of links together.

      What I am finding strange is, quite a number of my authority blogs are still holding steady in their rankings, but a number of them are experiencing the "google rankings drop" that I was talking about. And all of them go through the same SEO campaigns and formula I put them through.

      That is why I find it really strange. I certainly don't hope that the same happens to your WP blogs. It came really suddenly to me...
      Like I said in my first post, there are a great many possibilities and only listed one.

      I'm not going to list every one, especially when you post so little info which rules out almost none of them.

      How many other pages in the SERPs for those keywords been affected?

      Until this is answered accurately, how can anyone tell if it's a change to the algo or something about your sites specifically?

      And different c-class IP blocks is only one aspect of a concept called "Hilltop", which I've brought up for years and only NOW some SEOers are starting to talk about.

      IMO, Hilltop has been more important than pure PageRank for 7-8-9 years or so.

      Simply, Hilltop is the relationship between to documents that link to each other and can be determined any number of ways, including affiliate ID numbers.

      If you have AdSense on one site along with Amazon affiliate products, then set up a blog using just your Amazon affiliate ID and Google can easily cross-reference this info and know everything about the owner of the Amazon-only site, just by "affiliation" of the same Amazon ID.

      And since "you" gave Google your personal info for Adsense, they know the name, address, social security number, bank info and more, from a site that just had your Amazon ID on it.

      Then, we can talk about nameservers, hosting accounts, whois info, the Googlebar, cookies and more that can all be used by Google for Hilltop to determine the "affiliation" between documents.

      Some need to be aware that I'm using two different definitions for "affiliate and "affilitation/affiliated". "Affiliated" in this case is used by Google's definition of Hilltop to determine the relationship between pages, and is NOT about being a paid affiliate.

      But Google can use your affiliate number to determine if pages are affiliated...Hope that explains it better.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    I have my sites on separate c class ip's as well. Google may be dancing with you or you have some new competitors coming after you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Super Affiliate
    Hey Davion,

    I strongly believe what happened to your blog IS due to Google Dance. Since doing SEO all my life, I noticed things like this all the time. Even just a few days ago, one of my sites ranking in the 1st page of Google for the exact keyword completely got de-indexed and disappeared. Even when I searched with the string "site: mydomain.com", I couldn't find it.

    But then a week later, it appeared again back in the 1st page. That happens all the time. So you just take a deep breath and relax. : )

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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    It's Google Dance, it goes up an down, don't worry.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Tee
    Sometimes the dance takes quite a long time to complete (especially for newer sites that is around 0-6 months old). For others, like my #1 position, it usually come back after a day after adding some links to it (not sure if the links matter at all, may not have any correlation or causation effect).

    My opinion is if you are doing white hat sites, you have nothing to worry about. It'll be back in a day or a few days time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jimsim09
    HI Davion,

    one of my snipper site is facing the same thing like yours. Was climbing to page 2 (12th or 14th) then suddenly just dropped. Something like one day was in page3, the next day was in page 4 and now is in page 5. It's been around 2 weeks now. I did see some improvement of that site, slowly moving from 55th to 51st ranking. I never do any black hats SEO at all and it's all white hat SEO and it is in very niche market. So now I just follow what most warriors here tell me, "it's google dance" and I just sit back and relax and see how is it going. By the way, my site is around a month old. So pretty new site i have there, so I have not much things to speculate except accepting it for google dance

    hope yours will gain back to its original ranking soon!

    And if you found out anything, do let me know too. I'm still a newbie who started a month ago and going to concentrate in SEO
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
    Originally Posted by Davion Wong View Post

    It appears to me that the results of the search engines for my target keywords have been reshuffled and even poor quality sites are ranking.
    Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by poor quality? I mean, poor to a human reader or poor to Google? Are these sites semi-targeting the desired keywords and have backlinks? It isn't hard to rank a "poor quality" to a human reader site as long as you have the keyword targeting and backlinks, that is why I ask.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davion Wong
    Hi guys,

    A quick update. After 7 days, my blog returned to the top rankings for all the keywords. So it is true, a Google dance has taken place.

    Now, another major blog of mine was just hit by the same situation. Hope this is another dance and it will be over soon. Losing close to 70 to 80% traffic is no joke.

    Sometime I noticed is this. If you monitor the number of search results in Google for the targeted keywords, they will fluctuate everyday indicating that Google is still compiling data from different data centers.
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    • Profile picture of the author FredJones
      Which is why, if you are dependent upon search engines on your monetization, assume that only 70-80% of your sites will retain rankings at a given point of time and plan accordingly. That will help you manage expectations in spite of dances.

      By the way, the most stable sites such as Wikipedia and the likes don't seem to dance much. They do dance but only to an extent and that too infrequently. So getting trusted is important along with adding to PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotftuna
    About a week ago, someone on the other coast of the U.S. told me that my site dropped from page two to page three for a very competitive phrase. Now I see the drop here as well.

    Google is constantly rolling out updates across their datacenters. Just normal stuff. What is confusing me is a number of sites reaching page two for this big money phrase that have very little content, and few backlinks or pagerank. Some are PR1.

    I know that PR is over-rated, but, for this phrase, mosts page 1 thru 3 have age, good content, many backlinks, and PR. I wonder why my high quailty, old site dropped and one page sites with a few backlinks did not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nail Yener
    In the last few weeks, one of my sites have been going from #2 on the first page to nowhere and then coming back to #2, and this happened about three times as far as I checked.

    At the times of disappearing, I updated the site with a new post and a few backlinks, though I am not sure if this was the only reason for the site to come back.

    I will continue with some more link building and see what will happen in the following weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author mayorlan
    I have learnt some tips here today.Here is a question I would like to ask-does every new site need to experience google dance before it can stabilized in ranking or just some sites only.Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author chloetaylor
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    actually my friend and i are working on a same domain but for different countries. He is working on .au domain and I'm working on .uk domain. My SERPs are going quite impressive but my friends SErps are falling day-by-day. I dont know whats the issue?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ping Liang
    It happened on Sept 23 for your blogs. It just happened for all my websites on Oct. 23. Is that just a coincidence? They haven't come back yet. I can do nothing but wait, I guess?
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