Hosting and domains. need to clarify things

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Hey there,

I was about to build my next website but some things came to my mind while doing it.

the first thing is about my host. I found a free host, that is quite good (you know I only have a few bucks to spend right now). The problem is, he changes my inner links from http://www(.)domain(.)com/something to http://domain(.)com/something. So he removes the "www" infront of the links. Is there any effect on SEO with this? I wasn't sure so, before building up more content I just wanted to ask

My second question is about domains. Is there really a difference when I use hyphens?
and what about the best way to get my subpages ranked. Which domain would rank better:
redcolour.com/bluecolour
redcolour.com/blue
In this case I would like to rank my page for "bluecolour" (thats just an example ^^)

and last but not least how about the "/". I heard of that there is a difference for backlinks when I use
redcolour.com/something/ or
redcolour.com/something

Well I hope you can clarify the things for me

Looking forward to your answers.

David
#clarify #domains #hosting #things
  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    I hope this article helps you.

    And here is Google's explanation of the difference between http:// and http://www.

    Here is the Q&A from Matt Cutts:

    Q: What is a canonical url? Do you have to use such a weird word, anyway?

    A: Sorry that it’s a strange word; that’s what we call it around Google. Canonicalization is the process of picking the best url when there are several choices, and it usually refers to home pages. For example, most people would consider these the same urls:
    Example Web Page
    example.com/
    Example Web Page
    example.com/home.asp
    But technically all of these urls are different. A web server could return completely different content for all the urls above. When Google “canonicalizes” a url, we try to pick the url that seems like the best representative from that set.

    Q: So how do I make sure that Google picks the url that I want?
    A: One thing that helps is to pick the url that you want and use that url consistently across your entire site. For example, don’t make half of your links go to Example Web Page and the other half go to Example Web Page . Instead, pick the url you prefer and always use that format for your internal links.

    Q: Is there anything else I can do?
    A: Yes. Suppose you want your default url to be Example Web Page . You can make your webserver so that if someone requests Example Web Page, it does a 301 (permanent) redirect to Example Web Page . That helps Google know which url you prefer to be canonical. Adding a 301 redirect can be an especially good idea if your site changes often (e.g. dynamic content, a blog, etc.).

    Q: If I want to get rid of domain.com but keep www.domain.com, should I use the url removal tool to remove domain.com?
    A: No, definitely don’t do this. If you remove one of the www vs. non-www hostnames, it can end up removing your whole domain for six months. Definitely don’t do this. If you did use the url removal tool to remove your entire domain when you actually only wanted to remove the www or non-www version of your domain, do a reinclusion request and mention that you removed your entire domain by accident using the url removal tool and that you’d like it reincluded.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Bleidt
    thank you.

    So am I right, that there is no difference between the www and non-www domains?! and also the same with the com/something/ and com/something ?!

    so any other thoughts?

    David
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  • Profile picture of the author Geoff101
    www does not make a difference as far as I know.

    redcolour.com/bluecolour will rank better for blue color. Keyword should be in the url.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
    David,
    Here's a tip - do NOT use a free host. The minute you get any traffic your site could be pulled. They may also stick ads all over your site.
    I understand you are counting the pennies but hosting is a must I'm afraid otherwise all your hard work could be lost before you make any money. I'd suggest you look at hosts like hostgator.com that offer you a months hosting for free and then it's like $5 on their basic package.
    Just my 2 cents.

    Rich
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  • Profile picture of the author David Bleidt
    yea I know that hosting is really important

    BUT I bought a webhost for my first website (I picked a bad keyword so I get 1$ per month ... LOL) and I payed around 90$ for 1 year. It looked great, everything you need expect the fact it can only be used with ONE domain ... I didn't know that as I bought it because i was a newbie ... and now I can't pay a new host for a year once. I was looking for a monthly payment but haven't discovered a webhost so far ... if you have any suggestions I would be happy to know it.

    David
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by David Bleidt View Post

      yea I know that hosting is really important

      BUT I bought a webhost for my first website (I picked a bad keyword so I get 1$ per month ... LOL) and I payed around 90$ for 1 year. It looked great, everything you need expect the fact it can only be used with ONE domain ... I didn't know that as I bought it because i was a newbie ... and now I can't pay a new host for a year once. I was looking for a monthly payment but haven't discovered a webhost so far ... if you have any suggestions I would be happy to know it.

      David
      Hostgator should do the trick.

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      • Profile picture of the author David Bleidt
        Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

        Hostgator should do the trick.

        ~Michael
        Well I thought the same but hostgator is a one time payment. So I have to pay them now the whole amount for 1 year.

        David
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
          Originally Posted by David Bleidt View Post

          Well I thought the same but hostgator is a one time payment. So I have to pay them now the whole amount for 1 year.

          David
          David..that's not the case. Of course like most things if you pay for a full year upfront you get a better deal but hostgator can bill you monthly. I know as I have some of my sites with hostagator (and have done for years)that are paid via a monthly sub.

          Rich
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
          Originally Posted by David Bleidt View Post

          Well I thought the same but hostgator is a one time payment. So I have to pay them now the whole amount for 1 year.

          David
          I'm with Richard on this.

          I have a monthly subscription to Hostgator, and they take money out each month.

          If you can't seem to find the monthly option, perhaps you could call customer service. For that matter, why not contact customer service at any hosting company you're interested in?

          They may or may not have a monthly option, but you will get an idea of how they handle their customer service should you become a customer.

          All the best,
          Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author David Bleidt
    hmm ... I already was in a chat with one of the hostgator guys and he said to me that there isn't a monthly option ... I am from Europe, so calling there will cost me more than the webspace I will look if I can find something on their page ... we'll see ...

    Thanks for the tips. This could help me a lot

    David
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  • Profile picture of the author David Bleidt
    Ok I chatted with another hostgator staff member and he confirmed what you say. there is the month-to-month possibility Thanks a lot that you have opened my eyes

    David
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  • Profile picture of the author evanlambda
    Removing the www by itself doesn't make any difference, since its just a subdomain. If you have www(.)domain.com and domain.com both pointing to the same site tho, Google will rank it as two different sites for SEO purposes.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Bleidt
      Originally Posted by evanlambda View Post

      Removing the www by itself doesn't make any difference, since its just a subdomain. If you have www(.)domain.com and domain.com both pointing to the same site tho, Google will rank it as two different sites for SEO purposes.
      are you sure? that would be bad ...

      David
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    • Profile picture of the author David Bleidt
      Well ... What is actually the difference between hostgator and hostmonster? I can't see any differences between the babyplan of hostgator and the hostmonster plan except the price.
      babyplan: 7,95-9,95$
      hostmonster: 3,95$
      The only difference that I can see is the Google Adwords credits.
      babyplan: 100$
      hostmonster: 50$

      Did I miss something?

      David
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