#7 on google, how do I get #1?

by Coby
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Hey Warriors,

I have a site (TIF8800 Combustible Gas Detector) that ranks #7 on the first page of google (as of writing this) for the keyword tif 8800.

What can I do to make it move up and hopefully overtake #1?

I started building backlinks yesterday so that will help some, but what other avenues can I take?

Thanks for reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Brownrigg
    Keep building keyword anchored dofollow backlinks and adding original content. You will get to #1 eventually as long as you are doing this more than the sites that are above you.

    Just at first glance that doesn't appear to be a very competitive niche so I am guessing it's not going to take a lot to get #1.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Holmes
    If I was Google then an easy way for me to find people trying to manipulate the system would be to fingerprint those who only have high pr do follow backlinks including blogs.

    Don't forget the low pr, no & do follow backlinks, web 2.0 and articles or even directorys.

    Be as "natural" as possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author SiteSmarty
      Change your page URLs to:

      /gas-detector-TIF8800 (example)

      Then change your copy adding "Gas Detector" in front of your model numbers.
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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    Build slowly your backlinks. Do not spam anywhere (leaving a link and disappearing on the same day). Submit some articles on Goarticles and Ezine.

    Always leave a link to your internal page.

    Instead of leaving this link: TIF8800 Combustible Gas Detector, your URL must look like this: TIF 8800
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by trytolearnmore View Post

      Build slowly your backlinks. Do not spam anywhere (leaving a link and disappearing on the same day). Submit some articles on Goarticles and Ezine.

      Always leave a link to your internal page.

      Instead of leaving this link: TIF8800 Combustible Gas Detector, your URL must look like this: TIF 8800

      okay, I actually have that link on my page as you can see in the way WF read it, and its on the home page as well as the navigation buttons.

      So I should use that url to link to for backlinks? or maybe you mean put "tif 8800" as name on blog comments?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
    This really is one for the SEO forum but here goes ...

    1) Increase the number of words per page to 500 minimum
    2) Include the keyword in your page name
    3) Include the keyword in an image name and alt title
    4) Analyse the top 3 comptetion - backlinks
    5) increase your backlinks

    Quick crude but will work

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by Mangozoom View Post

      This really is one for the SEO forum but here goes ...

      1) Increase the number of words per page to 500 minimum
      2) Include the keyword in your page name
      3) Include the keyword in an image name and alt title
      4) Analyse the top 3 comptetion - backlinks
      5) increase your backlinks

      Quick crude but will work

      John
      Thanks!

      How do I analyze my competition's backlinks?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
        Originally Posted by Coby View Post

        Thanks!

        How do I analyze my competition's backlinks?
        Take a look at Backlinks Checker Tool - Backlink Watch

        John
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      • Profile picture of the author stoaf88
        Originally Posted by Coby View Post

        Thanks!

        How do I analyze my competition's backlinks?
        use scapebox to find all the sites links by using this string link:competingsite.com

        then get links from all thise sites

        Also do some profile links there are tools for this as well
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
          Originally Posted by stoaf88 View Post

          use scapebox to find all the sites links by using this string link:competingsite.com

          then get links from all thise sites

          Also do some profile links there are tools for this as well
          Yikes! Using the "link:" search will only return a small fraction of the competitors' backlinks (in my experience maybe 1-2% of them).

          Pulling from yahoo site explorer is a much better option, and one can still do this using a free add-on to scrapebox, or just going to yahoo site explorer directly.
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          • Profile picture of the author stoaf88
            Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

            Yikes! Using the "link:" search will only return a small fraction of the competitors' backlinks (in my experience maybe 1-2% of them).

            Pulling from yahoo site explorer is a much better option, and one can still do this using a free add-on to scrapebox, or just going to yahoo site explorer directly.
            If u use scrapebox to do it use the addon and check yahoo, google and aol as the search engines and then remove duplicate urls you will have a pretty complete list. And you will have an oeganized list in minutes. Its the easiest way in my experience.
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            • Profile picture of the author FredJones
              Listen Coby, I have taken a look at your site and I have good news for you.

              You are practically guaranteed a #1 if you simply keep patience and keep building any kind of reasonable backlinks over the next 1 month.

              Don't touch the nature of the content. It is perfect. The only thing is, count the number of words. Touch the content itself keeing the nature intact and rephrase to make it 500 words - you appear to have 361 word right now. Even 450+ words would do. Do make sure that you use the phrase "tif 8800" (without quotes) at least 10 times in the article, or maybe 7-8 times but in that case use close matches of these words (read up LSI if needed - latent semantic indexing) in sense.

              Build backlinks. Do social bookmarking. Submit articles to the top-20 directories - submit 10 articles over the next month if you can. Submit 4-5 videos using Tubemogul or some service that you prefer. Do RSS. Write 2-3 press releases over the next month and submit each release to a bunch of PR sites. Create a set of web 2.0 properties (15-20 odd), and possibly link wheels or multi-tier link structures, over the next month.

              I would be surprised if you do not come to #1 in the next 30-45 days. You may actually end up needing lesser efforts.

              Could I help you?
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      • Profile picture of the author MichaelParsons
        Originally Posted by Coby View Post

        How do I analyze my competition's backlinks?
        In a Search Engine, type LINKS:COMPETITOR-WEBSITE.COM (caps not required)

        This will show you how links to the website.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
          Originally Posted by MichaelParsons View Post

          In a Search Engine, type LINKS:COMPETITOR-WEBSITE.COM (caps not required)

          This will show you how links to the website.
          Um, no it will not.

          Asking Google how many links a site is like asking Joan Rivers how many plastic surgeries she has. In either case, you'll get a vast underestimation.

          At a minimum, the OP should use Yahoo Site Explorer or software that pulls from Yahoo Site Explorer.


          P.S. the proper search in Google is without the "s" anyways, it is: link:site.com, and not links:site.com

          Doing "links:" simply searches the page for the word links anywhere on the page ;-)

          To show you how faulty this is, try this search: links:backlinksforum.com (my forum). I get more than 2 million results that way I can assure you that even though we try, we don't have 2 million backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    What are some ways to update content? This site is a product site and has pretty much all the content I can produce for this product. This is not a very competitive niche and honestly 'combustible gas detectors' are kinda boring, lol.

    Should I just focust on backlinking and maybe an article or two?

    Are there ways to 'update' in the eyes of google w/o changing much?

    Thanks for the help, keep it coming.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
      Originally Posted by Coby View Post

      What are some ways to update content? This site is a product site and has pretty much all the content I can produce for this product. This is not a very competitive niche and honestly 'combustible gas detectors' are kinda boring, lol.

      Should I just focust on backlinking and maybe an article or two?

      Are there ways to 'update' in the eyes of google w/o changing much?

      Thanks for the help, keep it coming.
      The best way to update your content is to create a BLOG for your site that is, if you main site is not one.

      Every blog post you make will be creating additional page for your site and the search engine loves this.

      If you are using hostgator to host your site, log into your cpanel and click fantastico at the software section and proceed from there.
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      • Profile picture of the author theentry
        Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

        The best way to update your content is to create a BLOG for your site that is, if you main site is not one.

        Every blog post you make will be creating additional page for your site and the search engine loves this.

        If you are using hostgator to host your site, log into your cpanel and click fantastico at the software section and proceed from there.
        Blog is usually the way to go, but with a product like this I can't see making 10 or more posts about it. Maybe rotating those posts will help but not sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author jazbo
      Why not use Google wonderwheel and see what Google thinks is related to your sites niche. That might broaden the topics you can cover.

      In the main though, its down to steadily growing your anchor text backlinks.

      One other thing, I am assuming its the phrase "tif combustible gas detector" or similar you want to rank for (you're not on pae one for me either). Puttin the exact phrase in your H1 will help a little, rather than just "8800".

      Originally Posted by Coby View Post

      What are some ways to update content? This site is a product site and has pretty much all the content I can produce for this product. This is not a very competitive niche and honestly 'combustible gas detectors' are kinda boring, lol.

      Should I just focust on backlinking and maybe an article or two?

      Are there ways to 'update' in the eyes of google w/o changing much?

      Thanks for the help, keep it coming.
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  • Profile picture of the author woodymcgrath
    1. Request for link exchanges from relating sites.
    2. Create linkwheels and more backlinks
    3. Keep submitting articles to article directories
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      When I search 8800 in Google, your site doesn't show in the the top 300 search results.

      You sure your not getting personalized search results?

      Try the same search in Chrome Incognito, see what you get.

      For his noted search: tif 8800 he is #6 for me, and that is confirmed by Link Assistant's Rank Tracker.

      Of course, the high ranking is likely due to the fact that the site is getting some sort of "newness" boost.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
    Originally Posted by Coby View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    I have a site (TIF8800 Combustible Gas Detector) that ranks #7 on the first page of google (as of writing this) for the keyword tif 8800.

    What can I do to make it move up and hopefully overtake #1?

    I started building backlinks yesterday so that will help some, but what other avenues can I take?

    Thanks for reading.


    Its pretty simple, just keep on building those backlinks. One thing to keep in mind though. If your site is already at #7 for the keyword, but has no backlinks at that time, i'm assuming it is a new site.

    Sometimes, a new site will rank exceptionally high for its targeted keyword right out of the gate based upon a "freshness" factor. For whatever reason, Google often puts a new site up near the top for a short while based upon the mere fact that it is new and targeting that keyword. But, often Google doesn't actually believe that site deserves to be at that spot long-term. So, with backlinking and over time, I would expect the odds of your site dropping back several pages at least, is quite high. Just don't freak when that happens and continue to build backlinks to your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author fanatic123
    This is the toughest part, here starts the real challenge. You'll need a very strong SEO done to get to number one. But number 7 isn't bad either.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    Heres some 'related' terms that Google displayed when I searched for your product, maybe you can start to write some articles on each of these as indivudla articles???

    tif instruments
    tif 8850 combustible gas detector
    tif instruments inc
    tif tif8800a combustible gas detector
    tif 8900 combustible gas detector
    tif 8800 combustible gas detector manual
    tif 8800 combustible gas detector battery
    tif 8800 combustible gas detector msha
    tif 8800 combustible gas detector leaks
    tif 8800 combustible gas detector approved
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  • Profile picture of the author heartlessdude
    constant updating might turn you in to no 1 well i wish you good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Vijay M
    1)Include about us, disclaimer pages
    2) Add your keyword in the "useful links" anchor...ex: "useful tif880 information" . On this page, change the title to include some related generic keyword.

    3)Be careful..very very careful where you get your links from. Do not mass outsource to one of those services which build you 500 or 5000 links in one go. I did this to one of my niche sites which was ranked 3-4 for my keyword and was generating a sale every day. I got a bit greedy and wanted that #1 spot, and mass outsourced backlinks. my site was absolutely massacred and was lost in the boondocks. After spending 5-6 months in total wilderness, its slowly started climbing the rankings after consistent content additions and backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author webboss
    build some more content and distribute it on article directories.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    Let me save you some time....more backlinks
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  • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
    Hi Coby,

    I haven't seen anybody mention Alexa.

    Type in your #1 spot competitors url into search box and dig deeper and if the site has been around for a while it will show exact sites where it got it's links from.

    Just go get them from same place and from other widespread, high PR sources.

    All the best,
    Ewen


    Originally Posted by Coby View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    I have a site (TIF8800 Combustible Gas Detector) that ranks #7 on the first page of google (as of writing this) for the keyword tif 8800.

    What can I do to make it move up and hopefully overtake #1?

    I started building backlinks yesterday so that will help some, but what other avenues can I take?

    Thanks for reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cyberflavors
    Just wana ask what u did to bring it to number 7. Repeat those things to rank it at number 1 spot. That's it
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  • Profile picture of the author deepakg
    I think only one way to beat your competitors follow your competitors analysis them and then you do extra from your top major competitors. If they doing reciprocal link building you also do more from them and if they doing other things you also do those things there is no specific strategy for any keyword because you are on already 1st page of Google. You need to just follow your competitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author rypher21
    your kw has actually a high chance of getting the top spot since it has a low competition..just continue to build quality links and in 3 weeks or in a month you'll see the result.. goodluck
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    if i was you then i would spend $100 on some one who could do a good SEO then it will surely get to the number in less a month
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  • Profile picture of the author jacobycage
    Build slowly your backlinks. Do not spam anyplace (leaving a link and vanishing on the same day). Submit some articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author evanlambda
    Scope out the competition and see where their backlinks are and what their techniques are. Build backlinks as much as you possible can (do it yourself AND outsource whatever you can't do on your own).
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