Any tips on climbing PR?

by sfrias
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It seems I have tried pretty much everything I can think of to draw traffic to my site. Picked a niche I love, so putting in alot of work has not been boring. After 1.5 years, and providing enough backlinks to get 4 keywords on the first page of google, my site is stil PR 0.
I think I have good original content, not very much real competition from commercial sites, the site looks good, even included video on some of the pages...... etc, etc. Still google ranks ir as PR 0.

Figured, ok I will experiment by launching another site, same product to test things. Same result, lots of work, but both sites are PR 0.

Any magic to the PR formula?

Someone just trying to make it online, who has put in the work would greatly appreciate any feedback.

My site is ancientmexico dot biz.

Comments would be much appreciated
#climbing #tips
  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Contrary to much of the information communicated on this and other marketing forums back links are not the key to gaining page rank for your site.

    Your site looks nice but its really slim on content.

    Additionally you do not have a Terms of Service Page or a Privacy Policy Page.

    PR should mean Page Relevance not Page Rank.

    Get some content flowing, write more about your passion as opposed to having just a few articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    I looked at your site again, you only have 2 or 3 articles on the article page. I realize that you also have a page for each product category and decent product descriptions as also, but if you have not added any new content in some time your site is old and musty!

    I suggest that you install a blog and start writing about your niche!
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    • Profile picture of the author sfrias
      Thanks, Rus. Really appreciate the insite.
      What I have been doing is posting unique versions of articles I write into product and category pages. Just swapped out the content on about 50% of the product pages about a month ago. This was to test if freshnesh (or rotating content) was a factor. I saw no change in the site PR from doing this.

      Can you give me advice on this matter? Should I swap out content even if its unique content?

      You are correct, the articles page is not very large, I was using this as a link for newsletter emails, (post 3 new articles) and link to them in subscriber emails. I was not intending to have this page be all my content area. I was wanting more content on the items pages.

      Could there be more reasons why it doesnt climb PR? Other sites that are on page 1 for some of my keywords really dont look that good. Could google not like me for some reason?
      The sister site, with a different look (so I can test things) is ancientmeximports dot com.

      Honestly, I am glad I talked to you (virtualy) I thought I had bookoo content already.

      Best Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    Get Other High PR Sites Linking back to yours. Nofollow backlinks from a high PR Site will still Help as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author pethanks
    It requires patience, determination and strategy to do that. Just continue what you are doing and apply also what you will learn from SEO experts.
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    I wouldn't worry about page rank too much concentrate on your serp positioning, and making money that is what counts.

    But I agree with the previous comments build more content and try to blog more regularly. Google will reward you down the road sometime just keep at it.

    But don't weigh to heavily on pagerank. Try using buying keywords in your blog and draw targeted traffic so you can make some money.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author misterhu
    High quality links is possible by making relevant posts for marketing. If you will look closely, syndication is not the only thing that will increase your ranking. It’s also important for you to make everything as relevant as possible so search engines will not have any problems with it and keep it from being banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil K
    1. First of all, try and use as less flash as possible. Flash takes time to load, and flash content is not indexable by a search engine.
    2. Try and attach a wordpress .org blog on to your website. You can use a custom theme to make it look more like an "articles" section rather than a blog if that's what you want. Wordpress itself adds on some SEO benefits you'd otherwise find tough to add.
    3. Blog individual posts, keep each post small. 400 -500 words per post would do. Add pictures that are cc for each post to increase readability.
    4. Use keywords in your articles. The keyword should be prominent in the first line of each article/post. Wonderwheel can help you here, start talking about ancillary keywords as well, as opposed to just primary keywords.
    5. Don't link out unnecessarily to wikipedia. You yourself can rewrite the content there and link out to a separate article on your own site that explains what the term is.
    6. Try adding atleast 1-2 articles per day to your "wordpress blog". Add categories, add tags. You'll start seeing results in two-three months. (Rus is right, your content is very, very less)
    7. Build backlinks to posts rather than just your primary domain name. For example if someone found an article on your website interesting they would link back to that article and not your generic website. So SERPs understand this and rate your website's relevance to a topic based on the overall relevance of all the pages to the keywords you're targeting.

    That's all I could come up with right now.

    Good luck.

    Neil
    Wordplay Content
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    • Profile picture of the author sfrias
      Thank you Neil, Really appreciate it. You took enough time to give me a thorough breakdown.

      Really, really appreciate it.
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    • Profile picture of the author sfrias
      Originally Posted by Neil K View Post

      1. First of all, try and use as less flash as possible. Flash takes time to load, and flash content is not indexable by a search engine.
      2. Try and attach a wordpress .org blog on to your website. You can use a custom theme to make it look more like an "articles" section rather than a blog if that's what you want. Wordpress itself adds on some SEO benefits you'd otherwise find tough to add.
      3. Blog individual posts, keep each post small. 400 -500 words per post would do. Add pictures that are cc for each post to increase readability.
      4. Use keywords in your articles. The keyword should be prominent in the first line of each article/post. Wonderwheel can help you here, start talking about ancillary keywords as well, as opposed to just primary keywords.
      5. Don't link out unnecessarily to wikipedia. You yourself can rewrite the content there and link out to a separate article on your own site that explains what the term is.
      6. Try adding atleast 1-2 articles per day to your "wordpress blog". Add categories, add tags. You'll start seeing results in two-three months. (Rus is right, your content is very, very less)
      7. Build backlinks to posts rather than just your primary domain name. For example if someone found an article on your website interesting they would link back to that article and not your generic website. So SERPs understand this and rate your website's relevance to a topic based on the overall relevance of all the pages to the keywords you're targeting.

      That's all I could come up with right now.

      Good luck.

      Neil
      Wordplay Content
      Neil K, I have been implementing some of your advice.
      Added a blog
      Been ading 2 articles per day.
      Will now buiuld backlinks to some of the articles instead of just the target url.
      Will focus on ancillary keywords on articles.

      Definitely adding more content.

      Hopefully this will soon show a PR climb.

      Many thanks for your advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil K
    The second website hardly has any content in it at all, although its not flash. Ideally each article should have a separate page/url to refer to it. The more number of pages your website has, the more the effort you are taking to talk about your niche, and hence the greater an authority you come off on the niche. Is you have one page that talks about the niche, i highly doubt you're going to have much avenues for people to enter your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author jennyfranklin
      As far as PR concern, I am very much agreed with the statement "Page Relevancy". In another words, PR concern about page relevancy of the webpage. There is another method too that I've tried already is back link building can also be considered.

      Thanks,
      Jenny
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