Are Mega-Sites the New Mini Site?

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Mangozoom

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

My +550 page Adsense site had +519,000 page views YTD.

I've only posted backlinks on a single niche forum, & never wrote a single article for this site.

I've started a 2nd site that should dwarf the older Adsense site.

My plan is to keep the old site intact, & drive that traffic to a new improved site. The new site won't be Adsense, at least not at first. I want to build this new site up with content + traffic & sell Ad space direct to other similar sites that have a similar product to sell.

All my content is free to the end user, that's the lure for traffic.

Wow ... do you mind if I ask what it has earned you YTD?

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nettech

13 years ago

@Mangozoom - You're definately heading in teh right direction, John XFactr aslo has a health site which is his biggest earner, I believe he has over 2,500 pages and its earnign him about $1,000 per day.

Authority sites are the best way to go IMO. Ive seen that older sites that have lots of good quality content tend to do better than new Exact match domains with only a few pages, unless others have seen different. Anyway, Google seems to be kerbing this issue so the MEGA SITE is probably the best way to go.

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TristanPerry

13 years ago

Originally Posted by nettech

@Mangozoom - You're definately heading in teh right direction, John XFactr aslo has a health site which is his biggest earner, I believe he has over 2,500 pages and its earnign him about $1,000 per day.

Authority sites are the best way to go IMO. Ive seen that older sites that have lots of good quality content tend to do better than new Exact match domains with only a few pages, unless others have seen different. Anyway, Google seems to be kerbing this issue so the MEGA SITE is probably the best way to go.

$1k per day isn't accurate. It was earning $300 day, then he got into micro niche sites in a big way and (after converting some of those to bigger sites too) he recently said that his overall (inc. niche sites) earnings were ~$700 per day on average (IIRC). Hence the health site itself would be earning anything from $300 upwards, but not $1,000/day in itself.

Isn't a big deal though, I agree with the general sentiment that authority sites are the way to go. It just makes everything easier - with micro niche sites you target one keyword and rank that to #1, then you start another site from scratch (with no domain/site authority) and thus you need to repeat the process of content, getting backlinks, ranking it, etc. Whilst with a bigger site, you'll start seeing your new content indexed and ranking in hours... and ranking keywords should also become easier as the SEs will trust your site more.

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ronmartin

13 years ago

how long do you think the mega site needs to grow before it starts making any money? What niche do you think is better to go into for a mega site?

On your mega site do you just have adsense or do you have ads to sell other product as well?

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Mangozoom

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ronmartin

how long do you think the mega site needs to grow before it starts making any money? What niche do you think is better to go into for a mega site?

On your mega site do you just have adsense or do you have ads to sell other product as well?

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I have both Adsense and some CB products ... adsense is the main focus though.

To be honest it has made money from day one.

What I do is write content targetted tight against keywords then write articles targetting the same. I get a ton of traffic and it the number of hits is growing ... quite enjoying building this site actually.

John

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PaulSmith1

13 years ago

You should provide some public activities on your site, should give option to submit articles and blog this way pages would increase as well.

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deloriagod 13 years ago

Originally Posted by PaulSmith1

You should provide some public activities on your site, should give option to submit articles and blog this way pages would increase as well.

The problem with that is having to moderate all the of the incoming content. Yeah, it can get you a lot of content pretty quickly but you're going to have a ton of people submitting garbage and you have to weed through all that garbage to find the good content. Going through comments from one of my blogs has become a hassle, I can only imagine having to read tons of articles every day just to see if they're worth allowing on your website.
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ronmartin

13 years ago

You know that's a good idea...........create a family. You could let them help build your site with fresh content. I was just here and I should have thought of that........Gee'z get old I guess.

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ronmartin

13 years ago

Still $300 a day times 10 sites is $3,000 a day, which would be around $90,000 a month. Not bad earnings, I would say!!! However, about how long would it take to get to the 10 sites at $300 a day?

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jonrpatrick

13 years ago

um... could one of you post a link or pm me... I'm curious about what a mega site is and I'm having trouble visualizing...
So, 'health' is your general topic, and then you'd have pages on individual items - poison ivy, cpr, cavities, etc??

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Mangozoom

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jonrpatrick

um... could one of you post a link or pm me... I'm curious about what a mega site is and I'm having trouble visualizing...
So, 'health' is your general topic, and then you'd have pages on individual items - poison ivy, cpr, cavities, etc??

Cant post you the link cos its toppa top secret

It is in the health niche again can't really say what specifically unless I get my wife an early morning cleaning job to replace the income lost to new competitiors that would spring up.

A mega site is really an authority site with lots and lots of pages of quality content.

John

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Jacob Martus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jonrpatrick

um... could one of you post a link or pm me... I'm curious about what a mega site is and I'm having trouble visualizing...
So, 'health' is your general topic, and then you'd have pages on individual items - poison ivy, cpr, cavities, etc??

Here's a mega-site monetized with Adsense and other ad networks.

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bgmacaw

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jonrpatrick

I'm curious about what a mega site is and I'm having trouble visualizing...

Examples might include sites like my favorite feed scrapping whipping boys:, bizrate.com, nextag.com and thefind.com. It would also include most of the music lyrics sites out there which are essentially fancy database driven sites. A good user content driven site example would be stackoverflow.com. An expert content site example would be hometips.com. There are many different ways to build a huge mega site ranging from almost total automation to article by article.

Don't forget that the mega-site was a very popular option about 5-7 years ago. About 3-4 years ago the mini-site became popular since the mega site option involved a tremendous amount of work or using automation techniques that Google frequently, but not always, penalized in some fashion. People realized that they could rank and earn cash by having a small site that was laser focused on a paying keyword (exact match domain, borderline keyword stuffing, targeted link building, etc.). Now the pendulum has swung back the other way. I predict that mini-sites will be back in vogue around 2014-2015.

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inter123

13 years ago

Here is another example of a Mega Adsense site:

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Mangozoom

13 years ago

Originally Posted by inter123

Here is another example of a Mega Adsense site:

EzineArticles Submission - Submit Your Best Quality Original Articles For Massive Exposure, Ezine Publishers Get 25 Free Article Reprints

You just made my vision for a 500 page mega-site shrivel in the cold light of this giant among websites.

John

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jonrpatrick

13 years ago

Just curious - you're building a mega-site with 500 or 1500 pages....
What on earth do you use to build the site itself?
Is wordpress that robust and can handle that level of database? I know I ran an article directory for a while and began to run into odd database errors - and all on a WP setup?
And surely you don't manually make a new page for each piece and then upload a whole new site using a traditional website creation tool...

Inquiring minds want to know.
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Mangozoom

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jonrpatrick

Just curious - you're building a mega-site with 500 or 1500 pages....
What on earth do you use to build the site itself?
Is wordpress that robust and can handle that level of database? I know I ran an article directory for a while and began to run into odd database errors - and all on a WP setup?
And surely you don't manually make a new page for each piece and then upload a whole new site using a traditional website creation tool...

Inquiring minds want to know.
Jon

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KateSaunders 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mangozoom

Set Your Face to STUN ... I am doing the site in XSite Pro.

John

Wow - XSite Pro? I have zero experience with that. Can anyone share an Xsite pro website that I can look at to understand the structure? How do you build that many pages and not have the site look totally cluttered? Do you assign them to a category or menu tab keyword?

Also, John, what did you mean by keeping the menu out of the fold? I can't quite visualize this.

Thanks! Great post.
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bgmacaw 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jonrpatrick

Is wordpress that robust and can handle that level of database?

Yes. I have several WP sites that are in the 500-1500 page range.
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WareTime

13 years ago

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

Don't forget that the mega-site was a very popular option about 5-7 years ago. About 3-4 years ago the mini-site became popular since the mega site option involved a tremendous amount of work or using automation techniques that Google frequently, but not always, penalized in some fashion.

Yup, what's next, an article directory served up as one's own private mfa, oh, wait, that's been done. Content people want, large or small, makes money if it's the right niche.

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bhuff85

13 years ago

John,

When you're loading up your "mega-site" with content, are you using pure unique content or are you scraping content from other websites (i.e. article directories and PR sites)? I have one site that is slowly taking shape (has around 50 pages, all static HTML/CSS, too - I like it that way though), but I'm adding all unique content. In other words, it's taking quite some time.

I've thought about scraping content from EzineArticles and using some of my older articles as well, but still not sure. The only income generated really is from Adsense. Interested to hear how your compiling content.

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mascomasco

13 years ago

The truth of the matter is that authority site is a good thing to aim for at the long run but not everyone could have the time and resources in term of content to achieve that.To many,mini-sites is a better option.

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