How do I go about SEO for 4 different websites

13 years ago

Hi, I would suggest outsourcing the work as I know how much effort is involved with just one site, personally I couldn't manage many sites.
There seem to be many warriors offering SEO services here, so I guess it's a case of finding the right ones for you.

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orvn 13 years ago

Originally Posted by walesfootball

Hi, I would suggest outsourcing the work as I know how much effort is involved with....

= perfect one line answer.

1) Outsource your link building so that you just manage it.
2) Outsource your web programming- NOT YOUR DESIGN.
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- asher_gben 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by orvn
  
  = perfect one line answer.
  
  1) Outsource your link building so that you just manage it.
  2) Outsource your web programming- NOT YOUR DESIGN.
  
  this is right answer but all you need is spend more money
  
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  pawelkalkus 13 years ago
  
  @ Wesley Atkins - I do agree with Wesley Atkins on the fact that outsourcing SEO may be risky. I mean there must be some credible sites out there but what I might end up doing is do work on one site at a time but keep using automated link building services for the remaining 3 so that they don't just sit in there waiting for me to start promoting them.
  
  That way, when I'm done with one site (if it's possible at all ) and will move to the next one it will already have some backlinks.
  
  @Cataclysm1987 - Thanks for that m8! I will go and have a look at that right now. In fact I've got a few resources that list tens of ideas on how to build links but it may be worth checking out this system as well
  
  @IndigoJack - I think your're right IndigoJack. As long as I can come up with a specific plan as to what to do and when to do it it should be fine. I think that one of the most important things in this seo thing is to monitor your progress regularly with some sort of tool. Otherwise you will not see any results and will get discouraged pretty quickly
  
  What monitoring tools do you use guys? I have market samurai which is good, I heard that Traffic Travis works fine but the free version allows to check the top 50 results only. Anyone used SEO Administrator?
  
  Other ideas?
  
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gabquotesl 13 years ago

its aot of work but still he can seo all of the, for example when posting forum signature or profile links he can put aal links of his sites
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- pawelkalkus 13 years ago
  
  Hi guys!
  
  I thought I will add two more tools that you might be interested in into this thread. The first one is called Build My Rank and is currently closed for new members but from what my friend says (how managed to sign up before they've closed it) it is extremely effective.
  
  Another one is great for indexing all those articles that UAW and other services send out there to the internet. It's called Pingback Optimizer I think and basically takes care of indexing the articles that link to your site (based on the pingback function of a wordpress blog). It is a wordpress plugin btw.
  
  Anyone used those and wants to share some thoughts on them?
  
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shulink

13 years ago

You should start with 1 site first since link building takes effort and you don't have much time. On page seo is easy to learn, that is you apply the title, html tags on your site to SEO your keywords. The best way is to get a book if you are complete new to SEO. However, if you don't have the time to do this, then you will just do outsource.

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pawelkalkus 13 years ago

Hi shulink and walesfootball,

thanks for that. I have already optimized my sites. I already know quite a lot about optimizing sites for search engines, it's just the link building stage that overwhelms.

I guess I should start site by site but then if you think how long it can take to position one website in the top 10 for the keywords I optimized it for I may end up working on the 4th one in 2 years

Outsourcing seems like a good idea. Anyone used Submit Edge?

What do you think about link building services like SEO Link Vine, AMA or UAW?
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IndigoJack

13 years ago

Unless you can afford to pay someone else to do the donkey work for you it's your job.

It is not all that time consuming if you make a plan and stay focussed.

You do not need to apply every single trick that you have read about to each site from the off - its a building up process. So do 5 things> give them time to have an effect> monitor result> if not happy with position do 5 more things and so on.

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Cataclysm1987 13 years ago

There's a really good, really comprehensive guide on backlink building I would definitely recommend by a guy named Terry Kyle, the founder of the Backlinks Forum. It's called Backlinks Hydra.

Pretty comprehensive stuff, if you can keep up with his knowledge level when it comes to SEO. (The guy does have a top ranking for the short tail keyword backlinks, after all)

He basically says that everything in Google revolves around high on page PR links, IP spread, contextual relevance, edu and gov backlinks, aged domains and trust rank.

I'll let you find out the rest of the secrets he has to share...

Backlinks Hydra by Terry Kyle: Number One Rankings Backlinks Revolution
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Wesley Atkins

13 years ago

Be careful when outsourcing your SEO, there is nothing worse than paying for a service and having your site hit with a minor penalty for shady link building tactics...

You get what you pay for in SEO...

I've been doing SEO for over 10 years and unless you are very organised, have tons of time on your hands, have extreme determination and razor sharp focus, it will be nearly impossible for you to SEO 4 sites at the same time by yourself..

...and no, sticking to one link building method alone will not get you high rankings..

Ranking high in Google requires quality links from a diverse source...

My recommendation to you is to put 100% focus on one site at a time...

If someone gave me this advice 10 years ago, I would be a lot wealthier right now...

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rahulbatra

13 years ago

You can go for 2 websites at a same time as in forums you can choose 2 keywords and link them on different websites and during article submission you can do this same but make sure for this you must have 2 similar topic website.

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aulia

13 years ago

outsourcing your work on Fiverr

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pawelkalkus 13 years ago

Fiverr seams to be a bit too expensive. Considering that you can get hundreds of blog comments each for a few cents on Amazon Turk.

I have just purchased Article Marketing Robot and will use this service as well a UAW to built backlinks from article directories. However I still need to figure out a way to outsource link building from other sites like social bookmarking sites, video sharing sites etc.

Anyone here used SENuke? It does all those things but I'm not sure what are the reviews for this project?

Thanks for all your answers folks!
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- deloriagod 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by pawelkalkus
  
  Fiverr seams to be a bit too expensive. Considering that you can get hundreds of blog comments each for a few cents on Amazon Turk.
  
  Don't buy blog comments unless you like having your URL blacklisted from blogs. My list for my blogs keeps on growing every time some guy who's new to SEO buys blog comments. The person who's making the money is just using a program to spam a bunch of blogs.
  
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  Marksv 13 years ago
  
  1. UAW does work, but also takes time and consistency. How often are you submitting articles to UAW?
  
  - You could plan to submit 2-3 UAW articles per week to UAW for each of your sites.
  
  2. Outsourcing is a great option, but you need to have a plan inplace for your outsourcer to follow, otherwise it's going to be wasting your money.
  
  3. You can set a 2-3 hour period each day and create a plan of action for your backlinking.
  
  - IE. write one UAW article per day, do 2 comments on a high pr Do-Follow blog for each site you have. Create 10 profile links (Angela, Paul, etc...) for each site. Etc...
  
  Consistency and a plan of action will help you the most..
  
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jhonsean

13 years ago

SEO works whether the 4 sites are different the only thing that must pay attention to do this method is the quality content and the relevancy, to make it effective and competitive.

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Aaronsmith

13 years ago

I have no idea

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pelletmill

13 years ago

i suggestion that we should building backlinks for our website and use different seo tool and method to add page and link.

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Billy Rey

13 years ago

1. break down your strategy
2. Create a timeline
3. organize in the calendar.
4. find people to do each task
5. create a tutorial/ explain clearly what you want.
6. Sit back and relax.

You have to organize your thoughts if anything overwhelms you.

Stop, think, organize and you will be fine.

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Maheshpandit

13 years ago

Hire 8 SEO Experts or advance that divide the project in group and keep monitoring their work progress.

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rohnsmith

13 years ago

hi

I do not think it is ine day task. you have to design your seo plan and have to define goals that you want to achieve from all 4 websites. you have to define the objectives to achieve those goals . so it will take a long time

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pawelkalkus

13 years ago

Re: How do I go about SEO for 4 different websites
1. UAW does work, but also takes time and consistency. How often are you submitting articles to UAW?

- You could plan to submit 2-3 UAW articles per week to UAW for each of your sites.

2. Outsourcing is a great option, but you need to have a plan inplace for your outsourcer to follow, otherwise it's going to be wasting your money.

3. You can set a 2-3 hour period each day and create a plan of action for your backlinking.

- IE. write one UAW article per day, do 2 comments on a high pr Do-Follow blog for each site you have. Create 10 profile links (Angela, Paul, etc...) for each site. Etc...

Consistency and a plan of action will help you the most..

I submit one article per week per site. I was a bit scared of getting sandboxed for too many links in a short period of time. Will submitting 2 - 3 articles per week not end up like this?

Also, the plan of action thing is a good idea. I have just watched a great webinar with a guy called Jason K. (Mark Ling's friend) and he has outlined a great backlinking plan in there. I will follow it and implement it for each site.

Thanks for that comment Marksv!

1. break down your strategy
2. Create a timeline
3. organize in the calendar.
4. find people to do each task
5. create a tutorial/ explain clearly what you want.
6. Sit back and relax.

You have to organize your thoughts if anything overwhelms you.

Stop, think, organize and you will be fine.

Great comment! Preparing a video tutorial is an awesome idea. That way the person who will be building those backlinks for me will know exactly what to do. Also, I need to think of a way to monitor their work...

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yanivkalfa

13 years ago

Honest opinion - subscribe to as many link "farm" networks as you can . although 4 website isnt qualify as many. but i thinks after all it would be wise and cheaper going with many networks.

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barley 13 years ago

Automated methods don't give value for money in general. The best backlinks are the hardest to get, not those running on auto pilot. If your sites are new, a quick and easy way to get backlinks in the beginning would be from directories. You just have to submit your sites URL, title and description. Directory links are not the best but they are the easiest.

The next stage would be to write articles and submit them to article directories such as ezine. It would take you quite a while to write articles for 4 sites. Some people use article spinners/re-writers; I don't like using automated methods and haven't use them so I can't tell how effective they are.

Press releases won't take too long as well as they are like writing an article.

Don't forget to submit all publish articles to bookmarking websites to get some quick and free backlinks. A few bookmarking mass submission tools exist for that. I use OnlyWire. Just submit and move on; no need to waste too much time on them.
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rkz0121

13 years ago

That looks like a lot of work, my advice would be to focus on one of the website yourself and get the others outsourced. This will allow for you to build up some knowledge and experience of how to do things whilst also getting the other websites worked on at the same time. Just make sure you properly vet the SEO workers you hire, you don't want to spending money on mediocre work. Just keep monitoring the progress and try to keep organised!

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pawelkalkus

13 years ago

Automated methods don't give value for money in general. The best backlinks are the hardest to get, not those running on auto pilot. If your sites are new, a quick and easy way to get backlinks in the beginning would be from directories. You just have to submit your sites URL, title and description. Directory links are not the best but they are the easiest.

The next stage would be to write articles and submit them to article directories such as ezine. It would take you quite a while to write articles for 4 sites. Some people use article spinners/re-writers; I don't like using automated methods and haven't use them so I can't tell how effective they are.

Press releases won't take too long as well as they are like writing an article.

Don't forget to submit all publish articles to bookmarking websites to get some quick and free backlinks. A few bookmarking mass submission tools exist for that. I use OnlyWire. Just submit and move on; no need to waste too much time on them.

Thanks for that barley! I will have a look at onlywire as I think that being able to get links from a range of places is crucial. Social bookmarking sites seem to me like a complement to the article directories.

Directories and article directories - this is something I will automate. I am already using UAW and Article Marketing Robot and they save me loads of time.

I will also have a look into press releases as I know that the links from those have huge value (but they're expensive!).

That looks like a lot of work, my advice would be to focus on one of the website yourself and get the others outsourced. This will allow for you to build up some knowledge and experience of how to do things whilst also getting the other websites worked on at the same time. Just make sure you properly vet the SEO workers you hire, you don't want to spending money on mediocre work. Just keep monitoring the progress and try to keep organised!

Cheers rickkumar! I will focus on doing proper SEO for one site and outsource it for the remaining three. I already have a great plan prepared so it's just a case of implementing it. However, to be hones with you I like the fact that even when i'm not doing anything on my computer the links are being created all the time. That is the advantage of automated software

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actionplanbiz

13 years ago

web 2.0 profile links are good. you can usually link up to 3 sites at a time. and when doing other backlinking strategies, i would just work them one at a time.

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CatalinIcs 13 years ago

It's difficult to make linkbuilding in the same time for 4 websites. However, if the sites are from the same niche, you can create accounts on forums and post two links in signatures. If you have 20 forums you will obtain 20 x 2 x the number of posts links. This is a good business. In the same time, you can follow some blogs discussions and answer with different users.
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jasmeets

13 years ago

Hi,
You can do seo for your 4 sites. But you have to spent many time on the process. It seems to be so time consuming. You can do this very efficiently by hiring some of the seo experts. You have to focus on the websites properly.

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crescendo

13 years ago

I think you have to do lot of hard work in SEO for your 4 website. You can start 4 projects together, Stats from directory posting, then blog commenting, forums signature will help you.

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pawelkalkus 13 years ago

Thanks guys for all the posts in this thread. It really helped me clarify some things. I guess I will end up automating article submission (I am already doing it), automating social bookmarking (Bookmarking Demon) and automating directory submissions (I might purchase the basic package from SEO Firm : Directory Submission Link Building Service with Article submission for each site).

I know that it all sounds "automated" but I can't really afford to spend hours working on this. I will be building links manually but only for one site at a time and I want to make sure that while I'm not building links manually for the remaining 3 they still get some link juice from the automated software.

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Jessica21

13 years ago

Well my dear friend if you want to manage SEO work for 4 different website then you should prepare a plan. Divide it on to hours, suppose if you have 4 sites A,B,C,D then do off page of site A, do 15 blog posts in first hour.

Then for site B do blog writing and write at least one post, in the next hour you should post it and book mark you post. for site C and D you have to do directory submission for C and forum posting for D. So you can shuffle this strategy daily and you will get good results.

Thanks and Good luck

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pawelkalkus

13 years ago

Thanks Jessica21,

however, at this stage I've got too much on my head to be writing blog posts and forum posts by myself. I will probably resign from this at the moment as it requires at least a bit of knowledge about the subject you're writing about (and my 4 sites are each in different niche about which I don't know much). What's more majority of blogs and forums use no follow links so they will be no good for my sites in terms of boosting their rankings.

And the purpose of this whole things is to rank high in google and not focus on traffic generation. At the moment I want all majority of my traffic to come from SE so I need to look for ways to boost the rankings and save as much time as possible while doing it.

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James Hussey

13 years ago

Magic Submitter is particularly effective - I can't comment on SENuke's efficacy other than it works (clients and friends swear by it). I went with MS at $47 a month in the Beta test - now it's $67.

Anyhow, it does all the above and then some, including Press Releases, indexing your links with a social bookmark/RSS feed/ping feature, and despite what many might think (the manual purists) it saves a ton of time.

It all begins with (IMHO) competitive analysis. Makes the rest much easier. You would just need to outsource your spun articles.

Hitting 4 sites a week isn't that hard when you have a plan, as others have mentioned. You asked about a few services:

AMA and MAN = very limited, if any, results.
UAW = OK, but requires consistent effort (try 5 articles, submission staggered and gradually overlapping to build up link velocity, and varying your targets)
SEOLinkVine = very poor results (I tried, not happy)

I'd keep the submission rate on UAW to 10 or less up front. I wouldn't link-bomb until later.

Between Magic Submitter and ArticleRanks (or even if it was just Magic Submitter, or SENuke I suppose: but why pay nearly double for fewer targets?) - I think you'll see plenty of upward momentum.

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pawelkalkus 13 years ago

JamestheJust on Elance,

thanks for that post. I've never heard about Magic Submitter before. Anyone else using it?

With regards to the UAW you wrote:

I'd keep the submission rate on UAW to 10 or less up front. I wouldn't link-bomb until later.

What do you mean by that. Should I submit one article per week per site. This what I'm doing at the moment.

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darenet

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JamestheJust on Elance

Magic Submitter is particularly effective - I can't comment on SENuke's efficacy other than it works (clients and friends swear by it). I went with MS at $47 a month in the Beta test - now it's $67.

Anyhow, it does all the above and then some, including Press Releases, indexing your links with a social bookmark/RSS feed/ping feature, and despite what many might think (the manual purists) it saves a ton of time.

It all begins with (IMHO) competitive analysis. Makes the rest much easier. You would just need to outsource your spun articles.

Hitting 4 sites a week isn't that hard when you have a plan, as others have mentioned. You asked about a few services:

AMA and MAN = very limited, if any, results.
UAW = OK, but requires consistent effort (try 5 articles, submission staggered and gradually overlapping to build up link velocity, and varying your targets)
SEOLinkVine = very poor results (I tried, not happy)

I'd keep the submission rate on UAW to 10 or less up front. I wouldn't link-bomb until later.

Between Magic Submitter and ArticleRanks (or even if it was just Magic Submitter, or SENuke I suppose: but why pay nearly double for fewer targets?) - I think you'll see plenty of upward momentum.

What's Magic Submitter Website?

Also, what's MAN?

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pawelkalkus 13 years ago

@dipenb - Thanks for that m8. I'll have a look at this programme.

@darenet - Google both of these. I know that Magic Submitter is tool similar to the ones we've described in this thread. I don't know anything about MAN

I am seeing first results of using UAW and AMR. Only slight increase in the ranking for all 4 sites but so far only a couple of links from the hundreds I built were found. I think it is necessary to purchase Pingback Optimizer as I can't afford to spend time on pinging all the pingbacks that I get throughout the day.

What do you think guys?
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13 years ago

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Thanks many to share this article very useful to me..meet again.

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webboss

13 years ago

I think you should be working on your content first 20 pages dont seems to be enough . Well if you tell the niche may be some advice showed up.

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dipenb

13 years ago

Try Vita Vee's From Zero to Profit training. You will get to know a lot about SEO and link building for your 4 blogs.

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gearmonkey

13 years ago

I'm finding that posting high quality and useful content helps build backlinks. Because when you give people stuff they want/need, they'll link to it automatically on blogs, forums and digg (etc). So instead of having 1 person helping you build backlinks, you have 100s, if not 1000s of people helping you backlink.

The trick is to post useful content that people want/need though.

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