XFACTOR Will Always Ba an Adsense Legend

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I know that a lot of people have bashed him and said that his methods do not work. I, for one, know from experience that they do work. I had messed around with Adsense before, but had never seen results so kind of gave up on it. Then I read John's thread, which inspired me to give it another go. I just read his thread, and did not purchase the course, as per the advice in his signature at that time. I worked on Adsense websites very part time, and took months at a time where I did not work on them at all. Now, around a year later, I am starting to work harder on the websites again. This month I will finish off around the $350 mark. It is not much compared to what a lot of you are making, but I consider it a good income for the amount of effort I have put into it. The good thing about it, as well, is that for the most part, it is a residual income that I do not have to work for it again.

The long and short of it is that with Xfactor's methods, I have reached the $350 per month mark. With simple math, ten time the effort should get me to the $3,500 mark, and 100 times the effort should warrant $35,000 per month.

I, for one, am very thankful for Xfactor an how much he has given away for free, and worked towards helping people.

Thank you for everything you have given John. You will always be an Adsense legend in my books.
#adsense #legend #xfactor
  • Profile picture of the author FredJones
    Hmmm... I am always scared of the high click-through rates that such sites attract. What is the CTR that you are experiencing?
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    This month I have (edited out) CTR, and last month was around (edited out). Click through rate is not a problem if it is legitimate. I find my sites with less traffic get a much higher CTR than my sites with more traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author scrapgirl42
      I am on the same track you are, just over $400 this month from Adsense, working part time. However, I didn't make a cent until I read John's book.

      Thanks John!
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    • Profile picture of the author Peter Lee
      Congratulations on doing so well in adsense.Oh BTW I don't think you are allowed to reveal your adsense CTR publicly as that's against Google TOS. You may get into trouble.

      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      This month I have 8.2% CTR, and last month was around 9%. Click through rate is not a problem if it is legitimate. I find my sites with less traffic get a much higher CTR than my sites with more traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author mejohn
        Originally Posted by Peter Lee View Post

        Congratulations on doing so well in adsense.Oh BTW I don't think you are allowed to reveal your adsense CTR publicly as that's against Google TOS. You may get into trouble.
        Thanks. I edited it out on mine. Please do the same on your quote.
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        • Profile picture of the author terryd
          Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

          Thanks. I edited it out on mine. Please do the same on your quote.
          I'm pretty sure that you are safe doing that, it's more the screenshots that show you CTR along with impressions and everything else etc that is against TOS.

          As far as Xfactor his original thread was truly a golden one and was a good kick up the ass to get me motivated which it did. I earn a lot more now than I did before his thread and using his method as a foundation my earnings continue to increase and there's a couple of other warriors I follow closely because they are actually out there doing it and not just preaching....
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        • Profile picture of the author hilhilginger
          Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

          Thanks. I edited it out on mine. Please do the same on your quote.
          I saw you could edit some portion of message after some one has commented on it.Is it possible to do the same for a starter like me.Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author codenaam
          Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

          Thanks. I edited it out on mine. Please do the same on your quote.
          I guess you have to nudge Peter Lee on that, the CTR is still in there...
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew James
    Well done with your success. You have proven to your self that it is possible to make money with Adsense so I'm sure you will have the motivation to keep on building more sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Defunct
      I don't see what there is to bash about his method really.

      Unless you are talking about lots of mini sites vs big sites.

      His method works, others have shown that, it's just a lot of domains/hosting/management vs one big site.

      He chose Ad Sense just because he wanted to, he could also use affiliate networks like CJ Amazon.

      It's simple really, low competition, products because they convert higher, though unless you outsource it, writing a lot of unique content.

      You could improve on his link building method, but it has worked for him using just article marketing.

      Just my 2c.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    and 1000x effort would make you $350000.

    Whats your point?

    His e-book is FAR from perfect that if you had followed it to the Tee there's no way you could make a dime online. A lot of people have wasted a lot of time with his method and not make any money, FACT.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
      Originally Posted by Al Mukmin View Post

      andd 1000x effort would make you $350000.

      Whats your point?

      His e-book is FAR from perfect that if you had followed it to the Tee there's no way you could make a dime online. A lot of people have wasted a lot of time with his method and not make any money, FACT.
      He said he followed the thread...not the ebook.

      And, back almost a year ago I followed his e-book to a T and I've made 5 figures since then from those methods alone.

      I have since modified my business model and have been moving more towards large authority sites which is working even better. But, I still made many thousands of dollars with a method I learned in Xfactor's book.

      Hater.
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      • Profile picture of the author Clyde
        Originally Posted by Jacob Martus View Post

        He said he followed the thread...not the ebook.

        And, back almost a year ago I followed his e-book to a T and I've made 5 figures since then from those methods alone.

        I have since modified my business model and have been moving more towards large authority sites which is working even better. But, I still made many thousands of dollars with a method I learned in Xfactor's book.

        Hater.
        No you didn't.

        Show me just ONE of your websites that have ranked from submitting articles solely to EZA (as outlined in the book). It's been proven that his method doesn't work. Back when I was allowed on his private forum (which has now been closed due to a law-suit), I've known a few stay-at-home mom's that wrote 100's of articles only to have their AdSense account making 20c/day.

        Not sure what happened to him, but last time I heard people were still waiting on a refund (on a video course he never delivered). but hey, let's leave that for another day ok?

        Anyway Jacob, you seem like a nice guy and I didn't mean to get into an argument with you. John's thread inspired a lot of people and that's good. His e-book? Not so much.

        Back to the topic,
        OP, good that you're making *some* money but you wasted few months on a site only to have it making $10 per day.. How many years before you reach $100/day? Time to go back to the drawing back and re-asses what you're doing, IMHO.

        Advice?

        Outsource.

        Automate.
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        • Profile picture of the author andyj00
          Yes, the methods certainly work. They have worked for me and a mate of mine who followed the book too.

          However, it's getting far, far more difficult to choose domain names that are made up soley of the keywords. So many have been now taken for .com .org and .net compared with a year ago. Choosing the correct domain name for these micro niches is really what makes them work IMO.

          Seems the method has been a victim of its own success as everybodys doing it (or tried it at some point).
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          • Profile picture of the author Clyde
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            LOL, why would anyone show you a money making site?

            Are your telling us, the only backlinks pointing to your site is from a single source (EZA)?
            No, I'm saying that's what the Xfactor's e-book tells you to do.

            Launch 100 websites and see how many articles will it take for you to submit to EZA to rank all the sites. It's just a scientific fact that it will not work nor is it any cost-effective.

            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            I have a 4-year old exact match EMD, Adsense site that I never update, still makes money (very consistent earnings).

            My math was based on my own experience + six years.

            I doubt EMD will die out, a keyword is a keyword!
            You're right.

            Same here.
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        • Profile picture of the author Roland
          Originally Posted by Al Mukmin View Post

          Not sure what happened to him, but last time I heard people were still waiting on a refund (on a video course he never delivered). but hey, let's leave that for another day ok?
          I'm still waiting for my refund
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        • Profile picture of the author Nexus7
          Originally Posted by Al Mukmin View Post

          Show me just ONE of your websites that have ranked from submitting articles solely to EZA (as outlined in the book). It's been proven that his method doesn't work. Back when I was allowed on his private forum (which has now been closed due to a law-suit), I've known a few stay-at-home mom's that wrote 100's of articles only to have their AdSense account making 20c/day.
          His method DOES work, but it's not without its flaws. He states this in the course and he never guaranteed 100% success with his method. Some sites will do well and other sites will do terrible. In some cases, a site can do well for a few months and then the clicks will dry up due to seasonal changes or ad campaigns that end. I never expect consistent earnings.

          I guess those stay-at-home moms didn't know what they were doing or didn't have the patience to wait it out. Some sites will take a while to rank well after doing article submissions. Some will require more content with targeted keywords. Some will just outright fail. Building up backlinks too quickly can be a problem as well. A number of things can happen and you just need to keep working on them or move on.

          Anyone that thinks Xfactor's method is a quick way to riches is fooling themselves. Set a goal for $100 a month or a few bucks a day and work up from there. I made that after two months and it wasn't that hard to do. If you're only making $.20 a day after two months, you might want to look at other ways to make money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wakunahum
      Originally Posted by Al Mukmin View Post

      and 1000x effort would make you $350000.

      Whats your point?

      His e-book is FAR from perfect that if you had followed it to the Tee there's no way you could make a dime online. A lot of people have wasted a lot of time with his method and not make any money, FACT.
      I have more than a few websites ranking from ezinearticle links alone and making money each day.

      I don't know why you say it's not possible.

      If you pick the right words you can be on page one making money with NO backlinks so why would some backlinks from one source not rank?

      I don't get your point at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimfurr
      Originally Posted by Clyde View Post

      and 1000x effort would make you $350000.

      Whats your point?

      His e-book is FAR from perfect that if you had followed it to the Tee there's no way you could make a dime online. A lot of people have wasted a lot of time with his method and not make any money, FACT.
      Show's you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

      I make over $500 a month just from his tactics.

      I am a well respected member here at WF and
      would not throw away my rep with such a
      claim if it were not true.

      Jim ><>
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      • Profile picture of the author Marine0302
        I have no issues with the material that was taught in the xfactor course.

        I only wish I could get a refund for the training videos and personal coaching that simply never materialized after I paid for them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Clyde
        Originally Posted by jimfurr View Post

        Show's you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

        I make over $500 a month just from his tactics.

        I am a well respected member here at WF and
        would not throw away my rep with such a
        claim if it were not true.

        Jim ><>
        and I have made high five figures (not sure why income figure is relevant), not by following his method to the tee, but by adopting to Google's mood swings. and yes, I still believe you can't rank for anything by strictly submitting articles to EZA.

        I have a more important question though, where is XFactor now and why isn't he refunding people when he said he would? I thought he said he's doing $800+/day on autopilot.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by Clyde View Post


          I have a more important question though, where is XFactor now and why isn't he refunding people when he said he would? I thought he said he's doing $800+/day on autopilot.
          He was never doing hundreds per day. Why bother with the aggravation of an ebook, forum, and such if you are making that much money on auto-pilot?
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          • Profile picture of the author mejohn
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            He was never doing hundreds per day. Why bother with the aggravation of an ebook, forum, and such if you are making that much money on auto-pilot?
            I think that those who are successful have an inherant desire to help others be successful. Since I learned the principles that XFACTOR teaches, I have shared them with many friends, and some have gone on to make some good money with them. Helping others succeed is quite fulfilling.

            XFACTOR faced all sorts of people suing him, criticizing him, and all round insulting him for just wanting to help people. I don't excuse him for not refunding money where it was promised to people, but am definitely grateful for what he gave away for no charge.
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

              I think that those who are successful have an inherant desire to help others be successful.

              Not when it costs the money they don't. Come on now - don't be so naive. Put yourself in his shoes. If you started making hundreds of dollars per day with some strategy, you are a flat out liar if you are gonna tell me you'd divert your time away from that enterprise to sell some ebook, open a forum, and deal with headaches from customers.
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              • Profile picture of the author mejohn
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                Not when it costs the money they don't. Come on now - don't be so naive. Put yourself in his shoes. If you started making hundreds of dollars per day with some strategy, you are a flat out liar if you are gonna tell me you'd divert your time away from that enterprise to sell some ebook, open a forum, and deal with headaches from customers.
                I guess it depends where a person's heart is. Money isn't everything. You only need so much to live well. Any more than that is a bonus & an opportunity to help people.
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                • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                  Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

                  I guess it depends where a person's heart is. Money isn't everything. You only need so much to live well. Any more than that is a bonus & an opportunity to help people.

                  Has nothing to do with heart. It's common sense and time availability. If he was making hundreds a day with the XFactor method, he wasn't doing it on autopilot. Where would he have the time to manage all the extra "stuff"?

                  You'd think with earning hundreds of dollars a day, he could afford to issue refunds to folks. He didn't. Why do you think that is???
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  • Profile picture of the author Natlex
    You can't really put that as 10 years. Try one year because most likely exact match domains will eventually lose some power (which a LOT of these websites rely on). I'm sure it's possible to get rank #1-5 using only ezine but ONLY with an EMD and very low competition (which probably at bare minimum means a keyword with under 1k searches/month).

    Anyway, his course was great in some ways... Interestingly when I started IM in February I was doing exactly his course and then I read his ebook... In some ways I wish it never was brought out because I would have so many more domains available . I stopped relying on getting EMD's to rank for keywords though, something inside of me tells me that this MAJOR advantage cannot last for ever especially with all the ****ty EMD websites that are on the first page of google destroying the user experience for some keywords.
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      • Profile picture of the author Natlex
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        I have a 4-year old exact match EMD, Adsense site that I never update, still makes money (very consistent earnings).

        My math was based on my own experience + six years.

        I doubt EMD will die out, a keyword is a keyword!
        Ah I suppose that's true... I've only been doing this for 7 months and so far theirs only about 2 websites I haven't worked on (besides changing adsense layouts to check different CTR's) for maybe 4 months that are still earning a consistent $1-4 a day. They should last for a long time but it seems too good to be true . Maybe 4 years from now I'll believe it
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          • Profile picture of the author mejohn
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            I get a large chunk of my traffic from established forums.

            Maybe that's the reason for my Adsense $$ being so consistent, been making $$ since day one.

            If you have the same amount of traffic in 4-years, you'll at the very least be making the same $$ your making today.

            My forum traffic has doubled from the first YTD to now.

            I won't change it until it breaks.
            What do you do to get the forum trafic? I post in a number of forums, and see some traffic, but mainly just use the posts for the backlinks.
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              • Profile picture of the author Andrew James
                Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                I research people, not keywords.

                I find large forum threads, & own those threads!

                Listen to what they are looking for, answer every question the best I can. If I don't know the answer I will point them to a site that isn't mine that provides an answer.

                You might think that sounds crazy (why would I send someone to a site that isn't mine)? The thing is, it builds trust in forum members.

                Help other members the best you can, & not only will they visit your site (sig) many times over, you'll get a few thousand other members that follow along, simply because they see you helping another member of the forum.

                Forums are great for traffic, people don't have a problem telling everyone what they are looking for.

                I also do SEO & backlinks, but not 1/2 as much as I participate in forums related to my own niche sites.

                I don't run a sig in this forum, simply because I don't have any sites or products related to IM. Besides sometimes you just need a breather from promoting yourself/sites.
                This is a very good tip - market domination. I watched some interesting Ed Dale videos on this. As you say if you build trust then more people will want to click on the links that go back to your own site.
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  • Profile picture of the author bfas
    With all due respect, I think when John posted his original thread ("6 months later, lessons learned"), it was still very viable to launch product-specific EMD sites and rank with only EZA links. In fact, it wasn't unheard of for those product-specific EMD sites to land on Page 1 with no backlinking at all.

    That has changed. I think I recall John saying in the book & thread that this was his method, and he related his results. I believe he also eventually suggested 'stronger' backlinking efforts.

    I can also say that thread was an incredibly generous and sincere effort, with no payoff initially. It wasn't until hundreds of posts in that people began asking John to put together a book.

    bfas
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruha
    Xfactor's methods DO WORK! For those that say they don't I would initially question your keyword research.

    Using his methods, I have so far had 9 out of 10 sites succeed in making me money. Some of htese sites make money immmediately, but some have taken some time to produce. For example, I have one site that didn't make anything for the first 3 months I had it online. I did the Ezine and GoArticles submissions that is suggested in the Ebook and then left it there with no other work. After about 3 months, I am now making around $75 / month from this one site.

    It is not a question of if the methods work, it is more a question of your keyword research. Pick the right keywords and you will succeed using this method. Pick too competitive keywords and you will fail short term, but even so, stick with it and you will eventually succeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author COBSolutions
      Originally Posted by Bruha View Post

      Pick the right keywords and you will succeed using this method. Pick too competitive keywords and you will fail short term, but even so, stick with it and you will eventually succeed.
      Correct advice, pick a very low competitive keyword, you will make money faster, but then it saturates very fast, scope of development is NIL. Pick a heavily competitive niche and you will make money lot slower, but once you hit the first page in SERPs you know for sure it will make money and scope of development of the website targeting long tail and lesser competitive keywords becomes much more easier.
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      • Profile picture of the author mejohn
        I'm not sure where all the Adsense and Xfactor critics get their facts from. If you do things right, you will make money and your account will not get suspended.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

          I'm not sure where all the Adsense and Xfactor critics get their facts from.
          Not to be critical of XFactor but it comes from the fact that everyone who claims to have been successful with it either makes a tiny fraction of what he claims is possible, has "moved on" to other methods, or has ranked a fraction of their sites. In most cases, it appears the earnings from this method are not worth the time/effort invested.

          In all of the "success" posts I've seen, I've not once seen anyone say they were making $100 per day.

          TBH, it's not just specific to his product either. I've seen hundreds of posts from people defending many "strategies" only to end with "but I've moved on to other methods" or "but if scaled up 100x it would be profitable". Well, if a given strategy is so successful, why does a person "move on"???

          I believe the principle is sound but in practice, the XFactor is just not cost-effective from a time involved angle.

          And I must point out that if the guy was making $300 a day with AdSense, why would he dilute his efforts with support for an ebook and a forum (which requires significantly more effort than pumping out AdSense sites)???
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    I like a good combination of Xfactor and Clickbumped. Clickbumped's suggestion of looking for as many PR- to PR0, combined with good KW research and article marketing gives great results!
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  • Profile picture of the author Firstrate
    The XFactor method is definitely legit - I know lots of people who've made it work.

    I would implement it myself if I had more time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
    John certainly proved himself with his thread.
    Approaching 12 months using his methods has put a modest 5 figures in my account over the journey.

    It goes to show how things can happen on a thin thread. I glanced over his initial thread one night and the rest is history.
    Accepy my thanks John.
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    John definitely gets my thanks too.

    I'm not a fan of how the video series and new e-book were handled (i.e. the new e-book has probably broken over half a dozen deadlines and still isn't anywhere to be seen, many, many months after it was "almost ready" to be released..), but I definitely agree overall that what he did earns a lot of respect from me.

    It's rare to see someone become pretty successful in the way that he did, and then share so much information in a public thread.

    And now his online alias has given rise to its own method (i.e. the xFactor method) across countless message boards. And I'd imagine that the AdSense team have all heard the phrase too Pretty cool stuff.

    Also whilst I didn't apply his methods as much as I could have, I still made money overall even about buying the e-book and forum access.

    Now I'm onto authority site creation and much of that inspiration came from John, so kudos to him for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ed H
    Has anyone read the new (updated) XFactor book? My understanding was that it was released last week - I've been waiting to buy until I saw some reviews.
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    • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
      Originally Posted by vans View Post

      Has anyone read the new (updated) XFactor book? My understanding was that it was released last week - I've been waiting to buy until I saw some reviews.
      Out of interest, where'd you hear that?

      I've had no e-mails, and just checked the member's section (both the download page and - still closed - forums) and there's no sign of any updated book there.

      To be honest I think that the new e-book project has regrettably been scrapped (John set a fair number of deadlines and broke them all, despite it being "almost ready" to release many months ago, apparently). But if you've heard otherwise I'd be happy to listen
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      • Profile picture of the author Ed H
        Originally Posted by TristanPerry View Post

        Out of interest, where'd you hear that?

        I've had no e-mails, and just checked the member's section (both the download page and - still closed - forums) and there's no sign of any updated book there.

        To be honest I think that the new e-book project has regrettably been scrapped (John set a fair number of deadlines and broke them all, despite it being "almost ready" to release many months ago, apparently). But if you've heard otherwise I'd be happy to listen
        I sent John an email about 10 days ago asking about the date, and he said "This weekend". He said all current owners would get an email notification - so if you are a current owner, and don't have an email, I guess it is not out yet.
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        • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
          Originally Posted by vans View Post

          I sent John an email about 10 days ago asking about the date, and he said "This weekend". He said all current owners would get an email notification - so if you are a current owner, and don't have an email, I guess it is not out yet.
          Sounds promising Yep, I'll be sure to post here if/when any e-mail/new e-book is sent out.
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        • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
          Originally Posted by vans View Post

          I sent John an email about 10 days ago asking about the date, and he said "This weekend".
          I'm gonna bite my tongue on this one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
    Where can I find the infamous xfactor adsense course? I've never seen it but I hear it talked about quite often.

    Is it the 'micro niche adsense course' via the link in his signature? (the signature of the guy who's forum thread you linked to in the OP)

    ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ed H
      Originally Posted by friend View Post

      Where can I find the infamous xfactor adsense course? I've never seen it but I hear it talked about quite often.

      Is it the 'micro niche adsense course' via the link in his signature? (the signature of the guy who's forum thread you linked to in the OP)

      ?
      Yes, that is the book. Adsense Masters Course - Adsense Masters Course
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  • Profile picture of the author serverunion
    Any news on an update to the book? Hope he cuts some of the fluff out this time...
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  • Profile picture of the author calfred
    Let us all check the SPAM folder
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Always great to know the formula for success, rinse and repeat until you are satisfied, the hard bit is getting that formula, will take determination, and lots of trial and error
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    With all the information John gave away for free, you don't even need his ebooks. He said in his own signature to read the thread first, and that if you did, you might not need to buy his book.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    John definitely gets the thumbs up from me, I'm a workaholic but I've never been so motivated to do something so much in all my life.....in any other industry, to work and not see results for months would be considered a sign of madness but in IM its just how we roll! Do it right and you're in the money!
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    • Profile picture of the author JoshuaG
      I found some of the tactics in his course are a bit out dated now.
      Googles updates have made these sorts of sites harder to rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author fortony
    I found the only sites I have been making anything off of are those that were in more competitive niches with more search volume that i worked for(more content, SEO and the like). Going for for the larger sites is where it is at. Steve Cooks course (the only other one I bought) was a lot more useful. He is has the character to really help out and give personal advice too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom L
      Originally Posted by fortony View Post

      I found the only sites I have been making anything off of are those that were in more competitive niches with more search volume that i worked for(more content, SEO and the like). Going for for the larger sites is where it is at. Steve Cooks course (the only other one I bought) was a lot more useful. He is has the character to really help out and give personal advice too.
      John's trademark is that he doesn't like dealing with people and gives answers that cannot in anyway be questioned!

      Such behavior is quickly dealt with by either silent treatment or an additional smart remark.

      As it comes to his book update... lol.. e-mail him in a few weeks and ask when its coming out and it will still be "this weekend."

      Thank him if you want and leave the poor guy alone. He got in well over his head with the coaching, e-book, video courses.... thankfully he didnt try and run for governor of California at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
    hey back again...I checked out the course...'finally', I was surprised that there wasn't much in there I didn't know of already.

    However, I must say that his particular strategies for development and promotion is quite unique, pretty straight forward at that.

    I think I will try out his particular strategy, I would have never thought that the off-page SEO is all done from the same source, basically the same way.

    Definitely a different approach than what I'm used to...I'm off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author mejohn
      Originally Posted by friend View Post

      hey back again...I checked out the course...'finally', I was surprised that there wasn't much in there I didn't know of already.

      However, I must say that his particular strategies for development and promotion is quite unique, pretty straight forward at that.

      I think I will try out his particular strategy, I would have never thought that the off-page SEO is all done from the same source, basically the same way.

      Definitely a different approach than what I'm used to...I'm off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of keywords.
      In my opinion, the xFactor methods are a great start for anyone looking in the Adsense direction.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
      Originally Posted by friend View Post

      I think I will try out his particular strategy, I would have never thought that the off-page SEO is all done from the same source, basically the same way.
      The goal is to not to rely on Ezinearticles solely for backlinks but to write good articles in popular categories with hopes that the articles get syndicated to lots of other websites.

      The power of EZA is not in the backlink from their site but in the backlinks you can get from a good syndicated article.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andrew James
        Originally Posted by Jacob Martus View Post

        The goal is to not to rely on Ezinearticles solely for backlinks but to write good articles in popular categories with hopes that the articles get syndicated to lots of other websites.

        The power of EZA is not in the backlink from their site but in the backlinks you can get from a good syndicated article.
        That's a good point. Spend a bit more time writting a quality article and it will pay off more than a quick article done with the sole aim of an EZA backlink.
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      • Profile picture of the author mejohn
        Originally Posted by Jacob Martus View Post

        The goal is to not to rely on Ezinearticles solely for backlinks but to write good articles in popular categories with hopes that the articles get syndicated to lots of other websites.

        The power of EZA is not in the backlink from their site but in the backlinks you can get from a good syndicated article.
        Amen to that.

        The power of submitting articles to directories is amazing! I hav had articles submitted a couple of years ago get published to authority websites and give me huge surges of traffic years after the fact.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhab
    I always find it a bit humorous when people make a matter of fact statement as if they are somehow in the know above all others.

    I just happened to be going through my domains last night, dropping ones that I decided not to pursue anymore or have time for. I went through a few to check their rankings because these were domains that I had intended to develop from the beginning of the year but hadn't gotten around to.

    One was a domain I created for one of my xfactor sites. This particular site I obviously started and forgot about. I uploaded wordpress and created the site around the xfactor guidelines with kw domain name, seo wise and keyword criteria.

    It is sitting at #3 on page 1 right now. It has no content besides the about, contact, privacy, and sitemap pages. It even still has the default hello world post displayed. It also has no backlinks to it. So even without article links, this site is achieving what is laid out in xfactors guide.

    Now, granted I forgot about this site and obviously didn't monotize it yet, but the fact remains that the xfactor method does indeed work. You need very little linking power when you're working with these type sites. All of my other xfactor sites, which are only a handful which I created back in the day when xfactor came out to experiment with, are still holding at either #1 or within the top 3. These sites only had a few bookmarks thrown at them on a one time run. I've done nothing else to them at all and they still bring in a few hundred bucks every month. Not anything to brag about but for maybe an hours time in setting them up I think the ROI is acceptable.

    So for someone to say that this method has been proven to not work or to dismiss warriors here who have had success using the xfactor method, is really kind of ridiculous...
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    • Profile picture of the author mejohn
      Originally Posted by kingofseo View Post

      I have a goal of 2000 per month in adsense. I have made about 1000 per month for last 9months. Just thought would share a little story.
      Congrats on the success. Adsense works for those who are willing to work hard.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cracker
      Originally Posted by kingofseo View Post

      I have a goal of 2000 per month in adsense. I have made about 1000 per month for last 9months. Just thought would share a little story.
      Congratulations to you & thanks for sharing that.

      As of now making $1k per month is a big dream for me. This inspires me to take a serious look at Johns thread.

      How much time did it take for you to start achieving 1k a month ?

      Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author calfred
    I really think a lot of people don't realize that John (XFactor) has been in the AdSense game for almost 5 years now.

    Plus, he got the years of keyword research advantage.

    He has got the experience of running more than 500 domains in various niches when he was doing blackhat too. Imagine if you know about how almost every niche performs.

    I think his keyword research is very highly honed in his own unique ways. His methods worked for him. He definitely knows how to pick low competition keywords if you read his

    Health Authority Site Thread: The Warrior Forum - My Adsense Progress: $0 to $35 Per Day in 7 Weeks
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    Micro Niche Thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-learned.html

    more than once each.

    These years of experiences can really give a person the "SEO eyes" and more importantly, the patience.

    Not to mention he was a Navy too. I'm very sure he has got the discipline part handled very well. How many people do you think can go on and on writing articles for hours?

    If you notice his posts and threads, they all seem very simple and not too tricky/advanced/complicated at all. Yet, he seems to empower his success by one single thing, excessive hard work.

    I mean, there were great reasons why people were attracted to his threads and books at the first place. The guy's an inspiration.
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Experience definitely goes a long ways. I had 2 years of IM under my belt before I got into Adsense. John's thread, though, definitely lays some good foundations.
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  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    Just my .02

    John's eBook really can help you make money. The truth is you probably want to have a niche website with more than 2-3 pages though (as he later suggests). You will also need to do his backlinking method on crack. His general concept still works for all of this, you just need to do about 10X what he suggests to get yourself ranked for that term. Use Market Samurai instead of Micro Niche Finder.
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    • Profile picture of the author alvanpilot
      Not to be disagreeable but what you say about doing 10X the amount of work really is not true.

      I followed John's instructions pretty much to a Tee and 4 of 5 of my websites are on the first page of Google.

      Thanks for listening1 Just my 2 cents worth. But, hey, who am I? LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author Gav567
        His methods work as long as you put the time in. Sadly he owes people (me at least) a fair bit of money and the excuses have been constant. So respect the process, but at this point I have no respect for the person.
        I will make over $1000 this month and most of it is from Adsense. So agree with you that his method does work. Set up lots of sites - keep the ones that do well and get them ranking for lots of keywords. Then set up more sites and do the same. I had about 30 sites at one stage but after getting rid of the bad ones I had 11 sites left. Now I am setting up lots of new ones and hope to be earning good money from them too.

        Unfortunately John owes me $794 (video project paid for in March and personal coaching paid for in July) which never happened so I have lost respect for him too.....he needs to do the honest thing and refund everyone their money rather than making excuses. If his Paypal account was hacked then he needs to take the hit not his customers....
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  • Profile picture of the author xersisbarbosa
    I (not edit) CTR, and last month was about (Edit). Click the rate is not a problem if it is legitimate. I think my sites with less traffic to get a much higher CTR on my sites with more traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author mejohn
      Originally Posted by xersisbarbosa View Post

      I (not edit) CTR, and last month was about (Edit). Click the rate is not a problem if it is legitimate. I think my sites with less traffic to get a much higher CTR on my sites with more traffic.
      ?????:confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author AdamSlade88
      Originally Posted by xersisbarbosa View Post

      I (not edit) CTR, and last month was about (Edit). Click the rate is not a problem if it is legitimate. I think my sites with less traffic to get a much higher CTR on my sites with more traffic.
      ????:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Such original posting...........
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    • Profile picture of the author hardymon
      Has anyone here received a refund from John for the video series or received his new book?

      Hardymon
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      • Profile picture of the author mejohn
        Originally Posted by hardymon View Post

        Has anyone here received a refund from John for the video series or received his new book?

        Hardymon
        I'm not sure where all that stands. I never purchased the course. I only read his thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
        Originally Posted by hardymon View Post

        Has anyone here received a refund from John for the video series or received his new book?

        Hardymon
        New book, nope. I personally think he's scrapped the project (despite his promises). It was "almost ready" to released at the start of July, according to John. Now 4/5 months later and no sign of it. Hence I would imagine that the project is scrapped.

        Never got the video series so not sure about the status of refunds.
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  • Profile picture of the author kea55
    i think too many people spend time debating on the forums and not enough time trying things out and tweaking what doesn't work. Just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it wont work for someone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author the_moor
    Wow really great post, I love the passion that each of you have on this subject matter. I have never really found Adsense to be difficult and dare I say it???? I have always used autoblogging from the very beginning and have never had a single problem. My belief has always been to have many mini micro sites, however thanks to many of you I am looking into building larger niche sites.

    In my opinion it all comes down to doing the right keyword research upfront.
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  • Profile picture of the author soooted
    I think product based MFA sites are much harder to get traffic for now, no because of saturation from all the micro-niche products out there, but because Google is much smarter now about identifying when someone is searching for a "product". To use an example from Xfactor's ebook, try searching for "outdoor weber grills", or for me personally, when I bought my last grill I searched for "bbq grills".

    Both of these results present Google shopping results so now have to rank #1 or #2 to be above the fold. Sure, you could still get some traffic being below the fold on page 1, but keep in mind that that there was a sweet spot where you could rank #3-5 in the past and be above the fold. So to get traffic in a niche by being above the fold, previously you didn't have to rank #1 or #2 for most product keywords. But now that Google is showing more shopping results, being ranked #3-5 will give you a very small percentage of the search traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nexus7
      Originally Posted by soooted View Post

      But now that Google is showing more shopping results, being ranked #3-5 will give you a very small percentage of the search traffic.
      This just means you need to create more niche sites and hope they rank in the top 5. One niche site sitting somewhere in the top 5 can make $50+ a month if it gets a lot of searches or the keyword has high CPC.
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      • Profile picture of the author mejohn
        Originally Posted by Nexus7 View Post

        This just means you need to create more niche sites and hope they rank in the top 5. One niche site sitting somewhere in the top 5 can make $50+ a month if it gets a lot of searches or the keyword has high CPC.
        When it comes to Adsense sites, the same is true now as it always was: Hard work and good keyword research pays off.
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  • Profile picture of the author zachary0611
    As far as SEO goes I have a site that had no backlinks and no content and ranked on the first page for its keyword so Im sure one EZA backlink will be good enough for some niches it all depends on competition
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  • Profile picture of the author madpoet
    His methods work as long as you put the time in. Sadly he owes people (me at least) a fair bit of money and the excuses have been constant. So respect the process, but at this point I have no respect for the person.
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  • Profile picture of the author calfred
    It's a waste the video project never reached the public's hands.

    It'd be great to see the management of so many websites and still doing productive work.
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Even if his video thing never pans out, John has given so much to us here at warrior forum. I made over $600 last month, and I owe it all to his inspiration.
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  • Profile picture of the author bryce84
    I hear xfactor sites work great so I am tempted to look further into them but I have also seen a lot on here about xfactor sites getting slapped and thats the last thing I want to happen...
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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    I have to give thanks to John AKA XFactor as well. He REALLY got me started on Adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author webguru3287
    I worked on John`s system for a while and here are my thoughts:

    1)Dont use the very common yellow green template.. This theme is flooded all over... Try to customize it according to your topic

    2)Write neat content and be very focused on the topic you are trying to address

    3)Get diverse backlinks not just ezine

    4)Niche research is the most important task for micro sites to fetch money
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    • Profile picture of the author Andy Kobe
      With the new book out I do not think that he advises using just the approach from the old one.
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Any comments or review's on John's new ebook?
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      • Profile picture of the author mejohn
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        First 50+ pages are reminiscing...
        What about the rest of it?
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          • Profile picture of the author mejohn
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            The pdf is 200+ pages, walks you through keyword research, site layout, content, & site promotion.

            You'll learn his view on building large sites.
            What is the price, and is it worth it?
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  • Profile picture of the author madpoet
    Still waiting on my refund... for someone who supposedly makes $500/day its taken him over 4 months to refund me $794.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roland
    I'm still waiting for my refund on the video course, have you guys received yours please?
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  • Profile picture of the author jimfurr
    John won't refund my money either.
    He owes me $99 Plus another fee
    he said he would refund.
    $129 total.

    This has been owed to me since August
    and I've emailed him a lot about it.

    I was thinking he might have lost his
    adsense account - happens a lot
    with these Made for Adsense
    websites, since they go
    against Googles TOS.

    I have been thinking about using one of
    those online, $35 "Look Up" services
    to find out who he really is. I will do
    that if I don't get paid this month.

    Jim ><>

    NEW: I talked to John, in fact I know who he is now, (confidential).
    He has had some financial set-backs from another business
    venture but fully intends to pay folks back. That is the
    last word from him to date. Purchase his ebook,
    it is a good one.
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      • Profile picture of the author mejohn
        Originally Posted by Marine0302 View Post

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        In my expereince with John, he has never met any deadline he has ever set with the "xfactor" crowd that bought his first manual. I paid for the video series and coaching and have not received a refund, despite being told in December that I'd receive a refund by PayPal or check no later than January 7th.

        No refund so far and worse, but par for the course - no communication whatsoever from John.

        Now I see Jim's comment that John is saying he's had some financial setbacks from other ventures, but intends to pay all of us back. :rolleyes:

        Sorry - but that's not right in my mind, based on John's track record of making false statements and empty promises. John took a lot of money from a lot of people with the promise of products delivered on specified dates. Him saying that he intends to pay people back is yet another hollow statement, in my opinion. He takes money, which I know in at least one case was all the money a single mother had left in this world, doesn't provide the product and either fails to communicate with us or surfaces with yet another product to sell?

        I don't know if the mods will delete this post, but as you can see, I am more than upset at being the victim of a man who lacks character and integrity.

        I think enough people have shared my experience with this man that it warrants others here on warrior forum to at least know what they are dealing with when they contemplate getting involved with John.

        And please, from those who apparently are willing to excuse John's behavior and repeated lapses in judgment and integrity - no responses stating that he's a good guy who just has some problems.

        "Good guys" don't take people's money under false promises.
        There are two sides to the coin, though:

        He was giving people great advice and help, and then someone in the forum decides to sue him for a transaction this person made with someone else on the forum that had nothing to do with him. I do not know where that lawsuit ended up, but that could be the financial setback he was talking about.

        I hope he does come through for all of you that he promised a refund for. Because I never purchased his original ebook, all I know is that the information he gave away for free has helped me to earn $400 plus each month with Adsense. He has helped many other people as well. For that, I and many others will always be grateful to him.
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        • Profile picture of the author madpoet
          Sorry mejohn, but I've got pages of emails with excuses and promises from John about paying me back what he owes me. So far not one dime. He gets no thanks from me for stealing from me.
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          • Profile picture of the author mejohn
            Originally Posted by madpoet View Post

            Sorry mejohn, but I've got pages of emails with excuses and promises from John about paying me back what he owes me. So far not one dime. He gets no thanks from me for stealing from me.
            I guess I might be singing a different tune if I were in your shoes. All I know that what he gave away for free helped me get started in Adsense. I will be buying his new ebook about authority sites.
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            • Profile picture of the author Roland
              I still haven't received my refund for the video and Xfacor John has stopped answering any emails about the subject, does anyone else have any more news on this topic please?
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              • Profile picture of the author Marine0302
                No refund, despite repeated promises.

                I paid for personal coaching and a training video series.

                Neither were delivered.

                No refund to date, despite repeated promises.

                If anyone knows a way to contact the guy, please share this info.
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                • Profile picture of the author Roland
                  Originally Posted by Marine0302 View Post

                  No refund, despite repeated promises.

                  I paid for personal coaching and a training video series.

                  Neither were delivered.

                  No refund to date, despite repeated promises.

                  If anyone knows a way to contact the guy, please share this info.
                  I received this email in August 2011, which related to his new forum, and at the end of that is a postal address

                  Hi Everyone,

                  John Here (Xfactor) and I'm happy to finally open up my private
                  forum to public applications.

                  I'm currently accepting 50 new members and have put up all
                  details and pricing (now more than 1/2 off).

                  Here is the link: Adsense Masters Course Sales Page - forumapplication

                  No Hype or Sales Page there - just the forum benefits and the kind
                  of mature members I am looking for.

                  Best Regards,

                  John James Robinson

                  Xfactor Publishing
                  P.O. Box 7856
                  San Diego, CA 92167
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              • Profile picture of the author sridhar
                Originally Posted by Roland View Post

                I still haven't received my refund for the video and Xfacor John has stopped answering any emails about the subject, does anyone else have any more news on this topic please?
                Ditto here.

                His last reply by email to me was on Apr 20th in which he wrote:

                So instead of giving an exact date of payment, let's just say that I should be in the clear and can send you a check on or before the end of May.

                So far nothing. Followed up twice after that. He just stopped replying to mails.
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Sorry to hear of the bad experiences. I just know how much he has helped me with his free information. I am seriously considering purchasing his new book.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hello,

    yes, the xfactor m,ethod is great stuff.

    But,how i make 30 niche websites?

    Think about it; you will have 30 niche sites, there you will be DAILY writing 5-6 ore more blogposts and 10 articles or so ech every day x 30 niche websites?

    I does not possible when the day has only 24 hours.
    This would be 30 websites x 6 blogposts every day = 180 blogposts wirting each day!

    30 websites x 10 articles a day= writing 300 articles a day!

    This is not possible, how you have capital, and have 10 ore more students they write for you for little money every day.

    Could anybody here explaine me this?

    with best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author mejohn
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hello,

      yes, the xfactor m,ethod is great stuff.

      But,how i make 30 niche websites?

      Think about it; you will have 30 niche sites, there you will be DAILY writing 5-6 ore more blogposts and 10 articles or so ech every day x 30 niche websites?

      I does not possible when the day has only 24 hours.
      This would be 30 websites x 6 blogposts every day = 180 blogposts wirting each day!

      30 websites x 10 articles a day= writing 300 articles a day!

      This is not possible, how you have capital, and have 10 ore more students they write for you for little money every day.

      Could anybody here explaine me this?

      with best wishes
      marco005
      What you do is write your own articles until you can afford to hire others to write for you from your monthly income.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hello ,mejohn

    thanks for your fast answer

    Yes, i must do writing or pre wrtiting own articles.
    But in hell how writing articles and blogposts for 30 niche websites every day??????

    I work 4 months 24 hours an day without sleeping, LoL......?
    I must begin with 3-4 blogs self writing and when in make enough money, then i hire an wrtiter.

    I think with amazon products, i make more money with the xfactor method.
    Example; 300 users a daxy after 2-3 months blogging and article writing 10 articles every day,
    so when i have there 5% ore more conversion rate, this be 15 sales a day on amazon, by products up to 100$ each item.

    15x100=1500 x 20 days= 30.000 x7% amazon commissions= 2100 $ in month income

    With adsense bei 20% ctr an ca. 0,75$ adsense earning per click;
    60x0,75$ =45$ x 30 days= 1350 in month income

    I think only promoting amazon products is very effectives than adsense.


    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Amazon hasn't worked for me, personally, yet, but I have had success with Adsense as much as $600 per month. The key is sticking with what works and working hard at it. Adsense is working for me, so that is where I am going to spend my time and effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hello mejohn,

    can you explain the different, why amazon not works for you, but adsense?

    So you have both perhaps on your site, also adsense and amazon?
    So you have both, then it is so, on case studys i have reading, when you combine them, also amazon or others with adsense, that your visitors always click on adsense not on amazon or your affiliate products.

    Why? I can not explain,why this is so, sorry. The case studys does ist not explain too.

    with best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author mejohn
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hello mejohn,

      can you explain the different, why amazon not works for you, but adsense?

      So you have both perhaps on your site, also adsense and amazon?
      So you have both, then it is so, on case studys i have reading, when you combine them, also amazon or others with adsense, that your visitors always click on adsense not on amazon or your affiliate products.

      Why? I can not explain,why this is so, sorry. The case studys does ist not explain too.

      with best wishes
      marco005
      I'm not sure why, but those are just the results I have had. Affiliate marketing hasn't worked for me either. Months of well-displayed adds don't work for me, but Adsense does. Test, test, test, and see what works for you. My own physical products has also worked well for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roland
      Thanks khwaja akif, but what has your post got to do with Xfactor John and from my experience the fact that he does not honor his refunds?
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Many many months later, and still enjoying the residual income from Adsense, and haven't put any more effort into it.

    Thanks XFACTOR!
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    You guys been hustled, XFactor doesn't exist.

    It's similar to "The Rich Jerk" persona, the author created it to sell more products.

    His address is just a PO Box, and nobody has every met him in real life.

    Smart guy regardless.
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    So you're trying to say that John doesn't exist? His principles are what got me started in Adsense. The man behind the XFACTOR name is a great inspiration to many people.
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    I never paid for any of his advice. I just used what he gave away for free, and am quite grateful for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author NathanBai
    yer cashing in on the xfactor movements is life changing guys
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