I don't understand why everyone isn't using 3waylinks

by AFI
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I tried them myself and I had a bad experience with their customer support, but from how they are explained to me by someone today, why isn't everyone using their service?

3 Way Links

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What is the downfall to using something like this? :confused:
#3waylinks #understand
  • Profile picture of the author Alexis Kenne
    Hi Jennifer,

    I've been using 3 waylinks for about 3 years now. I listed 50 websites in the network so far . It's great

    But not all of those kind of networks are good. I had a bad experience with a similar type of link building network: 3waylinkblueprint as they left it open to the mass and it was abused and became harmful for website. But of course there are many ways to build valuable backlinks to your site that's why some people may be having success using something else.
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  • Profile picture of the author theentry
    Hm the site is about A>B>C linking, isn't A>B, C>D better?
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    • Profile picture of the author sarasayshi
      The biggest reason to avoid that service is the minute you stop your monthly membership, guess what happens to all those links, yup; you lose them. You are dropped from the system and all your sites the minute you cancel the membership. So that service is only going to benefit you if you continue to pay the monthly fee the rest of your life. Not worth it. Build one way links yourself with article marketing, forum profiles, blog commenting and manual link exchanges.
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      • Profile picture of the author RichardF
        Originally Posted by sarasayshi View Post

        The biggest reason to avoid that service is the minute you stop your monthly membership, guess what happens to all those links, yup; you lose them.
        Seconded. I just HATE the idea of "renting" links. I suppose it could be good for short term sites that you don't plan to run forever though, for a quick boost.
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by sarasayshi View Post

        The biggest reason to avoid that service is the minute you stop your monthly membership, guess what happens to all those links, yup; you lose them. You are dropped from the system and all your sites the minute you cancel the membership. So that service is only going to benefit you if you continue to pay the monthly fee the rest of your life.
        What happens when you stop paying for hosting?

        Not worth it.
        So, if that 3waylink program makes me a few hundred bucks per month(or more, in my experience), it's not worth paying $47/month? Pfft.
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        • Profile picture of the author The Artful Surfer
          In my opinion, it's *ok*. There are better link building methods out there which are faster and stickier.
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        • Profile picture of the author dburk
          Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

          What happens when you stop paying for hosting?



          So, if that 3waylink program makes me a few hundred bucks per month(or more, in my experience), it's not worth paying $47/month? Pfft.
          Hi Black Hat Cat,

          You make a good point, but it's not exactly comparable.

          If I have a dispute with my host, or if they go out of business I can just move to another host and not be out anything at all. If I have a short term cash flow problem I could move to a cheaper or free hosting plan, but with a system like this one you are locked into paying them. And if they decide to raise the rates or give you lousy service you can't just move on to other things without seeing your previous efforts collapsing like a house of cards.

          Not exactly the same is it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Diane S
      Originally Posted by theentry View Post

      Hm the site is about A>B>C linking, isn't A>B, C>D better?
      I think so, definitely. With one person owning sites A and D, and the second person owning sites B and C. It takes a few emails and a spreadsheet to keep organized!
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  • Profile picture of the author jhonsean
    One way links is still the effective method you can do it manually to rank your site in google search. Quality link building will do.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeekingWisdom
    He runs onewaylink that is better network than 3way. AT least the links stick even after you leave.

    And infact time has changed ..the way you use those links.
    They are no longer effective to sustain a backlink campaign to give any significant result.
    But still a link is a link is a link..that too automated.
    Only the use of those links has changed. So in short, they work if you know how to use them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wesley Atkins
    5 really *High Quality* links will outweight the benefit you get from the whole network... Avoid it!

    Your time and money is better spent, creating relationships in your market and seeking out good links in your niche..

    I like Jonathan Leger and a lot of his products, but linking schemes that are created to manipulate Google will be short lived... and for $47 a month, I can think of better things to invest my money in...

    ...The thing is aswell, if you gain 1000's of links and then decide to cancel your account and you lose those 1000 links, how do you think Google will react to that if these links make up the majority of your backlink profile?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
      Originally Posted by Wesley Atkins View Post

      5 really *High Quality* links will outweight the benefit you get from the whole network... Avoid it!

      Your time and money is better spent, creating relationships in your market and seeking out good links in your niche..

      I like Jonathan Leger and a lot of his products, but linking schemes that are created to manipulate Google will be short lived...
      Really? Seems to me that linking schemes have been in strong operation since people realized that backlinks drive Google's algo. Blog Comment Spam has been around forever and it still works, so why would you assume that the example above would be short lived.

      ...The thing is aswell, if you gain 1000's of links and then decide to cancel your account and you lose those 1000 links, how do you think Google will react to that if these links make up the majority of your backlink profile?
      Google would probably respond by putting your website in its rightful position...wherever that might be.
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  • Profile picture of the author rkz0121
    From what I've found it can be difficult to manage all the links efficiently as some of the webmasters may not be maintaining the links or may link them in inappropriate places etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author nucleus
      Well, I have been trying to get my websites going on 3waylinks, after several back-and-forths with support (their instructions are "lacking"), I finally got my code right, and guess what!?!

      As of this morning, they rejected all my websites! Curious why?

      My little restaurant review site labeled local asian restaurants as "crappy" -here is what 3waylinks said:

      "I'm afraid we don't take content such as 'crappy' in the network. If you can remove anything like that, we can take another look."

      Health niche site I bought from Jorge Sampson:
      "We can't take this site with the overtly sexy image of the lady in the red monokini"

      On my weight loss niche site I talk about losing weight and having a sexy body.

      "We don't take content such as 'sexy' in the network"

      Even my local chiropractic practice website bozemanchiropractic.com was rejected, apparently because:

      "Some of the content we don't take, such as religion and healing. There isn't a complete list of content that we can't take because there are sites which may not qualify dependent on *exact* content. To give you the most likely types of content we exclude the following: ANY religion or religious and faith *related* content, ALL holidays (in the religious festival sense of the word, not vacations), meditation, yoga 'unofficial' faiths - wicca, paganism, withcraft, sorcery, hypnotism, tarot, astrology, tattoos, festivals/occasions that are faith based in nature such as Christmas, Easter, Baptism, Christening, divorce related issues, getting your ex back, romance, gambling, anything of a sexual nature, breast/penis enhancement surgery/products, download sites that break copyright laws, any sites with overtly sexy images, adult only content etc."

      ?!?

      I wish I had the hours I invested into this system back. And my money.

      Nucleus
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  • Profile picture of the author mad.hat
    Originally Posted by AFI View Post

    I tried them myself and I had a bad experience with their customer support, but from how they are explained to me by someone today, why isn't everyone using their service?

    3 Way Links

    (not an affiliate link)

    What is the downfall to using something like this? :confused:
    Two reasons that I can think of off the top of my head. First, as soon as you drop the service you lose all those links and your SERPs will drop. Second, SEO is a competition. Sharing and all is nice but if you're going for the really difficult, really profitable keywords you'll never get a linking partner.

    Everyone will have feeder sites on different IPs that are prime for ranking their money site in those cases. Of course, plenty of other methods to rank for those extremely competitive keywords but setting up feeder sites is a simple one.
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  • Profile picture of the author RegalWeb
    3-way linking is very time-consuming. In my own opinion, 3-way has the same impact with one-way linking. Doesn't spell any difference.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    Of course it can help you if you have a good network of websites but i myself prefer one way link building. It helps you more than any other backlinking ways.
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  • Yes these links, they never exist forever.. We cannot actually completely depend on these services. build some links for yourself, say some articles and blogs, they will be there forever, no one is going to change it as long as you have the control over it.
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    • Profile picture of the author jalicia18
      Reciprocal link exchange will increase Google PR. But, choose the related and quality website for exchange link.
      One way Link exchange with PR 3 or 3+
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
        I've been using 3WayLinks now for a little under a month...not sure how I feel about it all yet. I agree with everyone saying that the links won't last forever. As people leave the network, all the incoming links they have will disappear, and all the outgoing links that those people had will be gone as well. Kinda sucks. The thing I'm worried about is passing my link juice on to other sites. Won't that hurt my site? i.e. if I have like 250 outgoing links to random sites, that's gonna pass some of my juice around and probably balance out or negate any benefit I get from the incoming links on the network. Just a theory, I don't know how true it is. But I'll tell you this. About ten of my sites lost top spots in Google when I checked this morning and I have no clue why. I'm wondering if it's because I'm linking to so many other people now with 3WL. I just hope it doesn't last. Anyone else experience this or did Google make another change to their algorithm?
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    I actually have never tried to do "3 way links". I guess the reason for that is I have much success with just building one way links. Which I definitely know Google loves!

    From my experience, you don't gain or get much authority from 3 way links as you would one way links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin_nzpcs
    I have been a member of three way links since beta for a test a few weeks ago I took one of my sites out of the network it jumped up thirty three places to number 11 within two days. I didn't add any more links at the time so I guess I had a penalty for too many links from irrelevant pages.

    I know this will get the "seo experts" ranting about how difficult it is for search engines to assess passing relevance to anchor text on a page and the passing of link juice from non relevant pages. One thing though that I find about some of these experts is they don't seem to factor in the niche and the commercial value of the keywords.


    My assumption is because the links were on a directory type page and were all unrelated niches and the directory had no organization (didn't assign links into categorized groups) I copped a penalty.

    So I assume I got a spam penalty which pushed me back 30 results in the serps.

    It could be coincidental as I had other sites targeting seo keywords in the 3 way link network which are still doing fine however I also built a large number of links from other sources to these sites.

    One thing I have experienced with three way links is the google cache of the network pages is kept fairly recent and shows changes made as sites drop out and are replaced with new ones this is a positive sign. I checked a few sites today and saw a google cache from two days ago on the pages created by 3way links.

    My conclusion is I'd risk three-way links for my aggregation and link indexing sites but not for any of my money sites.

    I've also done a few experiments using profile building and link wheels and seen gains only to see those gains lost when the pages were removed. The problem with some of these type links is if you don't log into the site for some time many of them have a removal of your profile policy. This is probably due to program like xrumer, auto backlink builder, seo nuke etc etc being used to create thousands of profile pages.

    On the other hand I went back to the old school method of gaining links from relevant topic sites and building a directory as part of my site to provide extra choices and alternatives to my visitors and have seen an increase in serps as a result.

    I'm still on the fence about three way links there are too many different variables for me to do provide any accurate data as I have not put a brand new site into the network with zero existing links to gauge the effectiveness.

    As I stated earlier I'm hesitant to put any of my good sites into the network as I do worry about the footprint all the sites link to their link pages using php using generic terms like resources, partners, links, network and I don't think it would be very hard for Google to find these sites if they thought it was having a major effect on their index.

    I always factor in that a searcher is worth thousands of dollars to Google and it is more expensive for them not to do something about spam than it is to do nothing. Why because if they let systems continue to be able to be manipulated using spam techniques they would end up with a search engine no one used anymore.

    Hopefully down the track I'll get some time to collect some data and provide an in-depth analysis using similar niche sites to get a better comparison.

    I like Jon too find him to be a straight up guy and I know he experimented with submitting articles with links in them that were totally unrelated to the articles content and got some good results, which would seem to qualify that the search engines currently have no way to assign relevance to anchor text used in links versus content of the page. However I'm in the school of thinking there is always the manual review team, Matt Cutts and his spam team and I'm pretty sure they don't miss much.
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    • Profile picture of the author BoJon
      I used 3Way Link network for one of my sites. I did exactly as I was instructed and created a links page and created a link from my home page to that page. Then I submitted it for verification and the site was approved very quickly.

      For my second site I did EXACTLY the same thing then submitted it for verification and then I got a message saying it was declined because of this reason:

      "A link from the home page was not found".

      I don't know why they say the link is missing. It's there alright, because I can click on it and go to the links page. If they gonna claim things that isn't true I'm definitely not gonna continue with this service.
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  • Profile picture of the author Leanne King
    Not everyone is using it because there are a ton of linking solutions out there to choose from, it's a continuous membership and there are lots of great ways to do linking where you are in control of the content that can be submitted and where
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    As mentioned above, continual membership programs for SEO is a bad idea.

    Once you opt out, all your links dissapear.

    So as well as starting fresh, you will have Google keeping an eye on you for such a mass fall of links at once.

    Definitely not natural.

    Stick to doing your backlinking manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chrissy Allen
    Hey Team

    Would say 3 way links is white hat? Or Black hat?

    Im thinking maybe grey hat lol

    Thanks

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