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13 years ago

honestly try to stay away from .info domains. people will tell you mixed things, some from experience some from what they've heard. i tested a couple .info domains in some small niches, as well as .com / .net, and i treated them the same. did good keyword research and competition research, did my seo on and off site, and the difficulty to rank each of them should have been very, very similar. the .info's didn't come close to the .net/.com's.

you can rank them in google but i think that google looks at alot of .info sites as being spammy - which alot are b/c they're a buck a domain.

use hyphens if you have to to get a .com or .net. or why not try to work a subdomain in there! that's what im doing now and have had some good results thus far! but it's too soon to tell for sure

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Steve McBride

13 years ago

Thanks a lot for the input! So hyphens don't negatively effect the ranking? So let's say that another site has the exact same domain name but without hyphens, everything else being equal, would he have that advantage over mine and if so how big of an advantage will it be?

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theentry

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TheSteve

Thanks a lot for the input! So hyphens don't negatively effect the ranking? So let's say that another site has the exact same domain name but without hyphens, everything else being equal, would he have that advantage over mine and if so how big of an advantage will it be?

I've a few hyphenated domains and they rank well.. I think they aren't really user friendly (I don't like clicking on domains in google search which have hyphens, but maybe that's just me).
So it's better to go for .com and .net even with hyphens.

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Steve McBride

13 years ago

Originally Posted by theentry

I've a few hyphenated domains and they rank well.. I think they aren't really user friendly (I don't like clicking on domains in google search which have hyphens, but maybe that's just me).
So it's better to go for .com and .net even with hyphens.

Thanks! You guys have helped a lot.

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Sudoku Online

13 years ago

You see, from a technical point of view, a PR3 is a PR3. Therefore a PR3.com = PR3.info ... except in the users' eye a .com have more authority than a .info. It's a matter of perception but it counts because we need their visit.

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CatalinIcs 13 years ago

I think it's better to have a .com domain instead of the .info extension. It's difficult to make a website easy memorable with an extension as .info. In SERPs these domains seems to be not very well viewed by Google.
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Dele

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Sudoku Online

You see, from a technical point of view, a PR3 is a PR3. Therefore a PR3.com = PR3.info ... except in the users' eye a .com have more authority than a .info. It's a matter of perception but it counts because we need their visit.

Yes, "a PR3 is a PR3" but that is when they have both become PR3. Before then, an .info domain may take longer than a .com domain to attain that.

Also, yes "it's a matter of perception" but whatever, rightly or wrongly (including perception) that is the basis of the decision of the visitors, must be respected if you wish to get them to your site.

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deloriagod 13 years ago

Originally Posted by theentry

So it's better to go for .com and .net even with hyphens.

I think it's because we see hyphens and assume it's an internet marketer, probably a small niche site, and might have nothing but worthless articles and Adsense ads. But normal users just see a bunch of words that are relevant to what they're looking for.
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scott g

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TheSteve

Thanks a lot for the input! So hyphens don't negatively effect the ranking? So let's say that another site has the exact same domain name but without hyphens, everything else being equal, would he have that advantage over mine and if so how big of an advantage will it be?

G doesn't look at dots or hyphens. why do you think the all those wicked wordpress seo plugins title pages and posts like mydomain.com/this-is-the-keyword-even-though-its-long-google-still-likes-it

I personally don't like wordpress, but will title my html static pages the same way, sort of, like mydomain.com/this-is-a-new-folder-i-created-but-want-optimized/ (index.html is automatic)

do a google search for cheap shoes

#1 & 2 on page ONE
sneaker-file.com
jordans-cheap.com

HAPPY HUNTING!

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windowblinds

13 years ago

I would also tell you to use .com cos it helps a lot for offline marketing, you can promote your name and people goes to the .com name by default.

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Steve McBride

13 years ago

Thanks windowblinds.

That makes sense, although this isn't a niche I could ever see myself do any offline marketing for. It doesn't hurt to be safe though.

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D Baker

13 years ago

Are you using Exact match or Broad Match when you do your keyword research ?

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Steve McBride

13 years ago

Originally Posted by D Baker

Are you using Exact match or Broad Match when you do your keyword research ?

I believe I'm doing exact match research as that's what I've read you should do. I just open the google keyword tool and type in seed word, then from the list I try a little bit longer keyword. After doing this a few times I've been able to find some decent long tail keywords. I'm having trouble getting my firefox seo plugin to work right though, so when I check the front page of google for my keyword it's not automatically showing up.

Also just to make sure, am I reading it right? What's the symbol for back links and page links? Is it the thing that looks like this:

Y!

Or does that have something to do with yahoo? Like I said, I'm still new and got a little confused by this.

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Dele

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TheSteve

Also just to make sure, am I reading it right? What's the symbol for back links and page links? Is it the thing that looks like this:

Y!

Or does that have something to do with yahoo? Like I said, I'm still new and got a little confused by this.

First of all, page links is backlinks to a particular web page.

Secondly, yes Y! is the symbol for Yahoo backlinks which can either be to that particular web page or to your entire site (i.e. inclusive of other web pages on your site)

The first Y! is the yahoo backlinks to your entire site while the second Y! is the yahoo backlinks to that particular web page.

Note that the second Y! which is the backlinks to a particular web page is a subset of the first Y! which is the backlinks to the entire site.

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geraeldo

13 years ago

It is better to add prefix and suffix in the .com instead of using .info. However, .info is weak for SEO is HOAX! I have a .info domain and ranked well.

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Dele 13 years ago

Originally Posted by geraeldo

It is better to add prefix and suffix in the .com instead of using .info. However, .info is weak for SEO is HOAX! I have a .info domain and ranked well.

Who says you can't be ranking even better with a .com domain?
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Steve McBride

13 years ago

Seems the only way to find out is for someone to buy both .com and .info at the same time, do everything the exact same way, and then just see which ranks higher once google indexes them.

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Steve McBride

13 years ago

I'm still slightly confused. When someone says to check the competition's backlinks and pagelinks, do they always mean yahoo backlinks and pagelinks? Does Google not actually release that information or something?

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jzmoore

13 years ago

Google gives backlink information but limited, yahoo gives backlink info but limits to 1,000, seo spyglass is a great product for "spying" on your competitions backlinks when reversing engineering a site.