Need Help With Market Samurai

by kea55
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Hi guys. I've watched the videos but for some reason..It seems like this product doesn't generate long tails as easily as google adwords keyword tool. Like for instance...I put in turkey fryer....i get all kinds of unrelated keywords....but with good adwords tool I get a lot of related ones and they are long tail. Also as soon as I push the exact match button in market samurai..then I only have like two results left. Can someone help me?
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Originally Posted by kea55 View Post

    Hi guys. I've watched the videos but for some reason..It seems like this product doesn't generate long tails as easily as google adwords keyword tool. Like for instance...I put in turkey fryer....i get all kinds of unrelated keywords....but with good adwords tool I get a lot of related ones and they are long tail. Also as soon as I push the exact match button in market samurai..then I only have like two results left. Can someone help me?
    sure, export the results from adwords kwt and upload them into MS and your good to go.
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    huh? is this normal? are most people exporting?
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    • Profile picture of the author SantiSantana
      I have Market Samurai. In my limited experience with it I can tell you that sometimes I see a weak result or two here and there. It´s like when playing chess versus computer software. On high levels I will usually have a hard time but there are certain openings/variations in which the software plays strangely weak, like it doesn´t have an understanding of the strategy behind that specific opening.

      I´m sure MS developers understood that the software could give you some weak results here and there, hence the inclusion of the ability to add your own in many parts of the research process: with the keywords, with some websites that you consider strong references but do not show in the top ten...

      The ability to add your own covers for the fact that the software is not perfect. Have you noticed that sometimes you do a Search in Google and the results ar enot necessarily relevant to you?

      That is why there was much talk last year about semantics in search. SOftware developers are always looking for ways to improve the results you get form any piece of kit. Case in point:article spinners. It is very hard to "teach" a computer things like grammar, semantics and so on.

      Another "famous" weakness with software: Translation. There you have to program the grammar of different languages, plus teach it sayings and expressions that simply cannot be literally translated, else don´t make any sense in the translated version.

      Once you find MS´s little weaknesses and know how to work around them you will see that it doesn´t make the software any less good. I´m loving every second of my learning curve with it.

      Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    Ever since the Google Keyword Tool update, I've had the same challenge. I think it's the new presets that were built into the keyword module in combination with the lower search results generated by the Google Keyword Tool. I haven't adjusted to the new outputs. Creating my own custom preset seemed to help. Try dropping SEOT to 10 and increase the SEO Competition (I start with 50,000) and then save that as a preset with a name like "longtail custom". Also, when generating keywords in the 1st step change the minimum phrase length to 3 words.

    And, of course, there's probably some great info in the MS forum which I keep neglecting to check...oops....
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  • Profile picture of the author srbilles
    Originally Posted by kea55 View Post

    Hi guys. I've watched the videos but for some reason..It seems like this product doesn't generate long tails as easily as google adwords keyword tool. Like for instance...I put in turkey fryer....i get all kinds of unrelated keywords....but with good adwords tool I get a lot of related ones and they are long tail. Also as soon as I push the exact match button in market samurai..then I only have like two results left. Can someone help me?
    Yea ever since google switched over to their new keyword tool, I've noticed MS getting more and more buggy. Generally you can just select the "ignore additional" in the drop down box inside the keyword research section but I'm finding that not even working. I get the same result either way.

    So for now what I'm doing is using the keyword tool to generate my keywords and then I use MS to continue on with my keywords research after I find the keywords using the keyword tool.

    Not ideal but until MS gets there act together I'm not sure what else to do.
    Maybe someone else who knows the in and outs of MS could suggest another work around.
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