Google Ban's auto blogs and blog dripping!

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Hi Warriors

I was told by a close friend of mine that has a friend that works for google
and he tells me that google is inches away of nailing auto blogs and dripping blogs which I think are the same and sending them to the sandbox which I believe because they can already nail most of the back linking software out there so beware.

My question is has anyone heard anything?
#search engine optimization #auto #bands #blog #blogs #dripping #google
  • if it's true, then I will hate this news... No google, don't do it... hehehe lol
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    • Sandbox time might be interesting. Would they let them back out again? Hmm.
  • It's not true.......

    That's such a generic concept that millions of legitimate websites would get nailed to the wall for no real reason.

    Most 'News' sites are automatically pulling their stories from other sources in exactly the same way that an auto-blog works.

    Many drip-fed sites are just drip feeding legitimate content (lots of membership sites drip-feed content to their members).

    It would be stupid to get say "let's get rid of drip-fed content sites", or "sites that only show content from other places".

    After all - all Google does is spider other peoples content and show it to surfers. They're not in the business of showing original content unless it's an advert or business listing.

    They love to show press releases above all the organic results and they don't have their own press release directory to drive that - so it's all other people's content.

    I think your friend is a little paranoid and jumping on scare-mongering whispers.

    Sure they'll want to get rid of as much crap as possible - who can blame them, but just lumping that into IM-unfriendly categories is not the way they do it. They know more than most how lots of legitimate sites offer value using tools and strategies that some abuse so I don't believe they're that ignorant of these things that they'd just use a sledgehammer to crack this nut.

    Andy
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    • Andy is right. How do you 'prove' something is an autoblog? Lots of blogs are hand written with automated 'extras' thrown on.
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  • Very well said Andy. I cant agree more although at first when I read the title I was like "huh?!" bit of tensed and such. However Google, there are other search engines who wont ban auto blogs, there are MSN, Yahoo...so no worries at all.


    Andrea
  • I haven't heard anything.

    If it's true, we can just posted the drip content from another software outside of the blog scheduled post, desktop or server side. No worries.
  • ok then how are they nailing these back linking software packages. I myself have seen websites fall off of Google after using these kind of tactics.
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    • You've got two things you want to point out here.

      1. Auto-blogs will get nailed
      2. Backlinking software packages are getting detected

      For the first one, the auto-blogs - Andy's got a point. There are hundreds of news sites that works like an auto blog and I don't think these sites will come down soon.

      For the second one, I personally haven't seen a site come down permanently after using software or backlinking packages.

      I can observe the "Google Dance" but it's not something permanent.

      I've seen sites permanently losing its position for lack of activity (no updates, etc.) but not because of excessive backlinks.

      And if it were true, then it will be easy from now on to dethrone competitions, all we'll have to do is to run a backlinking software pointing to their sites and it's bye-bye birdie then?

      As for Google tracking backlinking packages, being a programmer I can say that it's quite easy. Just get a hold of the most popular backlinking offers in Google's search results, buy those and get the sites it backlinks to, then for all new sites that gets spidered, check their backlinks to the list from the software packages, if all of the backlinks match and nothing else deviates then their busted.

      That's how I would do it if I were backed up by a billion dollar company like Google.

      ~Omar
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    • Follow the footprint.

      All software leaves a footprint that can be easily traced.

      The software maker is too egotistic not to tag the content with his business name, and the average user of the software cannot kill the footprint.

      For example, that little cue at the bottom of most every website on the Internet, "Powered by" whatever...

      If it says, "Powered by AutoDripFeed.com" or whatever, Google has the cue that this stuff is automated content. They do try to weed out any content not driven by human selection.

      That happened with article directories to an extent. "Powered by ArticleDashboard.com" was an almost universal signal that "this website is crap!"

      Although it should be noted that many Article Dashboard sites have risen to the challenge of getting their article directories crawled reliably from Google. The "Powered by" only served to inform Google that they should take a closer look at those sites, to see what patterns they should identify to eliminate the junk versions.
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    • That's a pretty ambiguous statement "these" back linking software packages. What "these" you talking about? What kind of tactics, exactly? There are so many different ways to get backlinks using different kinds of software, and besides no Google's not as smart as you think it is, many, many sites game the system every day and you see them at the top of the search results. But this kind of conversation could go on and on and on...

      In any case, the best thing you can do if you are sandboxed is to make a sand castle.
    • I explained this in this thread...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...backlinks.html

      ...it's basically statistical pattern matching. Remember also that the usual thing that is done is that the site with the outgoing links is devalued in some way, not the site being linked to. Otherwise it would be easy to screw over competitors with bogus links.
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  • What kind of backlinking software package? Are you talking about profile backlinks?
  • But for every site the falls off supposedly because of these tactics, others are unaffected and even flourish.

    It's a back and forth argument of do X and your site will be punished while somebody who does X claims the opposite.

    We might as well argue tastes great or less filling because nobody really knows for sure and there is no conclusive evidence of certain packs and software really doing any damage.

    There may be cases where abuse of certain tactics have landed certain sites in hot water but it's never clear if it was those tactics or something else the webmaster was doing.
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    • Now thats funny right there....

      Good stuff!
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  • I don't know what you are talking about guys. My autoblogs are fine and dandy so far. In fact they are earning Google money with the adsense ads. It would be stupid for Google to ban them.
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    • Yeh, as stated, the problem with banning sites for links is you can just take out all your competitors with whatever link methods are bannable.

      The best Google can do in regards to linking that anyone could be doing to a site is discount it.

      Automated content on the internet has been around forever, I don't see it going anywhere either.

      Google can still manually review sites which a low quality and delete them and also maybe look for footprints to common spammy type programs/scripts.
    • He is saying in future its auto blog dripping.
  • Who cares unless you are trying to get all your traffic through generic search through google.

    Q
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  • So wait, this news effectively came from a friend of a friend? Must be true then!

    If G could 100% automatically identify autoblogs they probably would, but they can't, so the cat and mouse game will continue for now!
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    • Completely agree, they have more important things to do and they atomate a lot themselves...
  • Im not sure Google would want to do away with auto blogs even if they could easily identify them...

    Think about it...

    Auto blogs might not contain "unique" content but a lot of the content that is used by auto bloggers comes from article directories and "authority" sources that Google absolutely LOVES...that content is shared by all, spread all around the net (even your aunt Jenny's healthy cooking blog that has no intention of making money) and all the while Google gets to show "relevant" search results to people looking for that great heart healthy recipe (you know..the one aunt Jenny drip fed into her blog from an article directory). That recipe wouldn't be so dang popular if it werent shared all over the net and Google knows it.

    One more obvious thing too.

    Think about how much money Google would loose from Adsense Ads if Auto Blogs went away...

    Things that make you go hmmmmm

    Like others have said here....too many "other" sites are drip feeding content and auto posting...not to mention its not "unique". I highly doubt you will see the end of Auto Blogging anytime soon.
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    • I thought this was an old thread dug up from 2008, and the spammers were at it again ...

      As a matter of fact, I seen this topic dozens of times over the years now.

      Also interesting to use "google ban's" in the search box as well ...
  • good and good riddance. I can't stand those automated blogs that regurgitate trash content.
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  • Google News results still littered with autoblogs so I doubt it very much. That is where they are most strict about what gets in and even there it is completely littered with autoblogs.
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    • Banned
      Provide examples. Google News requires that the news articles are unique. They ban sites that don't provide unique content from Google News. It's only a matter of time in Google News before they are detected and removed from Google News.
  • There are a lot of blogs and average/high profile-ish websites with unique and scrape'd content & also PLR content (that may or may not have an obvious footprint), doesn't necessarily mean they're crappy autoblogs!!
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  • I was warning of this many moons ago and people were telling me to go and hide in a hole.

    The truth of the matter is that autoblogs were just the latest craze, the shiney metal object that just gets and pulls the wool over your eye.

    Why not build a real business, a list of hot prospects, products with membership backend continuity programs. its how I earn money online. Many smart marketers in here, knows that works and will still work in 80 years from now.

    I am just gunna shut up now, what would I know. *shruggs shoulders*

    P.s. I wonder what the next shiney object to come out is. hmmmm The mind boggles.
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  • Google can hardly shout too loudly about the practice of siphoning bits of content from other sites to display them on your own pages - it's all that their own SERPs content consists of. If users became conditioned to demand 100% unique every time they looked at a web page, then Google would have to have millions of underpaid little scribes rewriting all our description tags in their own words to display to the searching public.

    As long as they are making money from 'sharing' our content I think there's a limit to how much they'll try to prohibit us sharing each other's.

    What's important at the end of the day is providing genuinely useful content to the aforementioned surfing public, however you do it. There's syndicated gold out there amongst the syndicated scrap metal, just as there's plenty of unique and original crud. Build sites to please the surfers and you will probably please Google as well. If not, the reputation of quality content will eventually build via the social networks and Google can please themselves.

    They're the biggest player in the game, but they're not the only player. They don't hold all the cards - much of their perceived power lies in encouraging you to think they do. It's not for nothing that the same baseless rumours of Google's next move never quite sink to the bottom of cyberspace and are repeated over and over again. Google could scotch most of them with a simple confirmation or denial, but it suits them to have the 'little' people constantly being seen to cower in dread at the prospect of their next policy change.

    I'd just keep on providing stuff that's worthy of the eyeballs of the viewing public, by whatever means - Google are desperate to include it. Stop letting them play with you and just crack on with it.
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    • Shudder...

      Actually, it's likely to be a two part process.

      1. Identify the process (i.e., 'follow the footprint'). With the kind of power Google harnesses, pattern matching should be relatively easy.

      2. Make a judgment of intent. Is the site a legitimate news aggregator, or are they simply trying to scam the search engine or visitors? That's a tougher call, and one reason some can say they're unaffected (yet) and others see their work spiraling around the porcelain..
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  • This is an important thread in my book. Please keep us updated....Cause i am yet to see anyone making a killing with autoblogs , fancy that.

    I was yelled at in another thread today obviously by a warrior who has an autoblog product. surprise suprise. LOL *rolls eyes* he couldnt see the down side to this whole situation and google that will be now starting to really wake up to the autoblogs and their functions.
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    • I didn't "yell" at you, I asked you why you always show up in threads bashing autoblogging, it doesn't suprise me that you are here as you obviously support the concept of auto blogging going by the way side.

      As for my having an auto blog product, that has nothing to do with why I didn't like your posts in that thread. Like I told you, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but you have certianly gone out of your way to post in several threads pertaining to auto blogging talking trash about it. In fact I just read another of your posts in an auto blog thread that was started by someone who is quite successful with it....which you said never happens and practically begged me to point someone out to you that was successful with it. You have posted in threads writtne by successful auto bloggers...you should know who they are!

      Are you starting to see why I "yelled" at you (as you called it)? You talk trash about it, tell me no one makes money with it (serious money that is) yet I find you posting your anti auto blogging rants in other threads (written by people who are successful with it) that are only trying to help others succeed with it.

      I personally don't care if you like auto blogging or not..that's your choice, but when you make the kinds of posts you do it isn't good for the forum as a whole and it certainly isn't fostering a good environment for those who really want to learn and succeed.

      I actually came to this thread hoping to read some valid points, which there are some here...but as usual I find your comments as well, mostly just trash talk without offering anything real to the conversation.
  • The problem with a lot of these arguments about what Google can and can't do based on what the major news and authority sites are doing is this assumption that Google views all of us equally.

    While it may be true that the Washington Post and Joe's Emporium are using some of the same techniques and software to gather and post content, the major difference is the editing.

    The editor of the Washington Post is doing his best to give us relevant, useful, and sometimes entertaining information while Joe Blow doesn't give a rat's a** about anything but keywords.

    It doesn't matter if someone thinks that it's unfair for Google to treat these two differently.

    Google is a private business that has the right to refuse service to Joe's Emporium while showing blatant favoritism to the Washington Post.

    They also have the World's biggest, fastest, and baddest computers that probably have a better chance of figuring out some of these "how can they tell the difference...?" questions better than we can.
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  • It would be too big impact for online business, no way this is true, HOPE SO!
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  • "They sky is falling!"
    Ok, in all seriousness... Most people get their traffic from Article Directories (Which have built in search functions, or Mini-search engines), Video Directories (YouTube is a video search engine...), and various other sources. Are you really worried about what google has to say?

    Do some research on your own websites and find out where your traffic is coming from. You may be surprised at the results. About 2% of my traffic comes from Google, another 1-3% from Yahoo and Bing. The other 95-97% comes from my promotional sources. Yes, that extra 3-5% of free traffic is nice. But is it really worth worrying about the smallest source of traffic that I receive? If google sandboxed my sites, I would still be getting 95%+ of my traffic.

    My suggestion... Stop putting your eggs in one basket. Or, find out where your real traffic is coming from.
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    • Okay, in all seriousness... Really!!

      If you are getting most of your traffic from Article Directories, you are doing Article Marketing WRONG!!

      LOL...

      You really should open your mind to the greater possibilities.
    • I get 1/3 of my traffic from Google and that's the way I wanted it. Nice easy free organic traffic earned through using free tactics that didn't take me a whole lot of time to implement. People act like Google is the enemy here. Nothing can be further from the truth. Play by the rules and Google can be your best friend.

      I still get free Google traffic from a WordPress post of mine from 2006. (original content!) That one post made me over $1000 easily over the years because it climbed to the number 1 spot in Google for certain keywords and has stayed there all this time.
  • Nope, I haven't heard of it. Also, I'm not sure how they are going to track every single link that is coming from a backlinking software. I mean, is it virtually possible? Such software usually mimic actual user activity, making it difficult to detect. So, how do they know?

    All I know is that posting/scheduling unique content periodically into autoblogs does help in one way or another to avoid Google penalizing the site in any way.
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    • This is a great point, just a sprinkle here and there of "unique" content can and does make all the difference in the world!

      I initially started doing this as a way to test different keywords but found it really did help my sites overall performance. I don't flood them with unique content but occasionally drop an article in here and there and it works like a charm. It may not be 100% "auto" but compared to the upkeep and daily maintenance of a regular blog it sure feels like it.
    • Patricia, they don't have to track every single link. All they have to do is find a pattern that unnaturally repeats itself across many sites. If they can link that pattern to undesirable behavior, they can tweak the ranking algorithm to devalue sites that fit the pattern.

      There was a counterfeiting outfit in the local news recently. They were taking the corners from $20 bills and pasting them to $1 bills. You would think it would be obvious, but many store clerks, etc. were so accustomed to looking only at the number that they didn't notice that the face on the bill wasn't right. Once alerted, the counterfeiters were quickly identified and caught.

      I'm not into autoblogging, but it's pretty obvious that the 'trick' to it is to make the blog look more like a legitimate news site and less like a scammer or splogger.
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  • The sooner the rest of us can live and work effectively online in spite of anything Google does, the better it will be for all of us. I'll be the first one to ignore anything they say. I hear FB has now passed Google as having the most traffic online. Good for them. I'm for anything that DOES NOT PAY HOMAGE to Google.
  • How would google know if a blog was an autoblog or a drip fed blog?

    Don't a lot of people who publish unique content drip feed it into their blog?

    If google is punishing sites that use backlink packages then what is to stop me from pointing one at my competitor?

    Of course, google wants to provide the best user experience in their search results and a lot of people that use autoblogging (and some of the automated linking packages) don't provide valuable sites.

    So, it makes sense that Goog would look for patterns of such sites.

    Like, maybe, sites that consist solely of duplicate Amazon products .... or sites that only have RSS feeds as their content .... or sites whose backlinks consist only of profile links. IMHO, this is more likely what they are up to.

    Lee
  • Google has been making this statement for years yet people complain about it after they have already been told not to do it.

    "...if you're scraping content from other sites and republishing it, or if you republish content without adding any additional value. These tactics are clearly outlined (and discouraged)..."

    You can also read their Quality Guidelines below:

    Quality guidelines - basic principles
    • Make pages primarily for users, not for search engines. Don't deceive your users or present different content to search engines than you display to users, which is commonly referred to as "cloaking."
    • Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good rule of thumb is whether you'd feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you. Another useful test is to ask, "Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"
    • Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.
    • Don't use unauthorized computer programs to submit pages, check rankings, etc. Such programs consume computing resources and violate our Terms of Service. Google does not recommend the use of products such as WebPosition Gold™ that send automatic or programmatic queries to Google.
    Quality guidelines - specific guidelines
    The above quotes from Google Webmaster Central

    From the "Provide unique and relevant content link:

    "If your site has been removed from our search results, review our Webmaster Guidelines for more information. Once you've made your changes and are confident that your site no longer violates our guidelines, submit your site for reconsideration."

    "If your site has been removed from our search results..."
    "...confident that your site no longer violates our guidelines,"

    I don't know why people are so surprised at the idea of this happening.
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    • Have you used Google lately?

      It seems they are fully rewarding the autoblog news sites out there. Every time I've clicked (for the past week or more) on a "news result" when searching, I have landed on an autoblog.

      They obviously have some sort of favoritism factor in their guidelines too because I and many others tried to get an autoblog through the G News approval yet it wasn't accepted.
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  • Google is a search engine. It's job is to find relevant content for it's users based on the queries they enter. (They want the 100% share and want to knock Yahoo and MSN completely out of business). So they gotta attract more by being more relevant.

    A few years ago even Google's relevancy was same as Yahoo. IN fact, there was a time when I found MSN results to be better than Google's. So google is battling these guys out as well to ensure they get the 100% market share.

    Google's search quality improved and more people began using it.

    If your autoblogs have relevant content, Google will obviously continue to rank such sites. Or Google'll go out of business.

    If autoblogs tend to provide spun unreadable contnet, Google will want to put those sites out of business.

    Google is having a hard time taking care of relevance. It's not going to care if you are building billions of links to your website as long as your site's optimized and has a low bounce rate.

    Google cares about bounce rate(it tells Google whether the site had the content the user was looking for). The bounce rate will only affect the position of your rankings.

    But your rankings are mainly determined by the no. of links you build. Now google is totally cool with letting sites rank that have RELEVANT content on them.

    "Make pages primarily for users, not for search engines. Don't deceive your users or present different content to search engines than you display to users, which is commonly referred to as cloaking."

    - Duplicate content isn't something Google cares about. Google is cool with it.
    - If content's duplicate, Google is going to rank the site that it perceives to be as the source/higher authority.

    Your autoblogs will not be banned by Google. And that is not Google's job. Let's say A is a BlueFart marketer with 1000 autoblogs.

    Now he wants to check his autoblog, so he inputs asautoblog.com in the search engine.

    It's the job of Google to provide him the result. As a search engine, Google's supposed to do just that.

    Auto generated content will only have an effect on your ranking. " Provide unique and relevant content that gives users a reason to visit your site first."

    If autoblogs provide unique and relevant content, Google is going to index it. But if it finds the same content on let's say wikipedia, its going to rank wikipedia higher and not you.

    Why? Coz Wikipedia article has links to it and has authority.

    I'd say autoblogs are a short term business model because you are only expecting the visitor to stay a while until they click on an adsense ad. Poor bounce rate, poor rankings in the long run.

    Now if you're using auto blogs to build a list, that is a different case scenario(you are trying to provide value with your list).
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    • For the most part I agree with a lot of what you said. But the bounce rate thing is a bit off. There is no way for Google to determine bounce rates for sites that do not have analytics installed.

      If something like bounce rate affected rankings, you can bet, there would be people out there selling their services to browse your site.
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  • They will never have 100% as there are more search engines than just Google, Yahoo, and Bing (MSN). You are forgetting MySpace, Twitter, Facebook, Article Directories, YouTube (Movie directories), and all the other places that have built in search functions that are used on a daily basis.
    More searches are performed on YouTube and Facebook (each...) than on Google. That means Google is #3 or lower on the search engine rankings.
  • I was told by a close friend of mine that has a friend that works for google (as a janitor)
    and he tells me that google is inches away from banning Wordpress blogs from their index....

    My question is has anyone heard anything?
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    • hehe ho ho ho.

      *removes all references* to Wordpress in my code.

      Ha.

      But seriously. IMO it's either an inside job that 50 thousand autoblogs are profiting away and ranking in Google news or that 50,000 other people are doing it wrong.

      I know which sounds more true.

      Because it seems.. you don't hear anyone round here talking about how their autoblog is in Google News.

      You don't buy guides round here that have taught autoblogging that gets people rich. Well I've yet to see anything worthy of the characters it's typed in.

    • Hilarious, man. Thanks for the laugh.
  • It's not true that you can damage a competitors ranking by sending it inbound links from software link packages. Google does not penalize a site for links such as these. What it may do, and does to, is to disregard those links so they give no positive benefit to the site nor does the site get a negative penalty.

    Google takes a neutral stance on these links by disregarding them. These links will therefore have no positive or negative affect on a site. Assuming of course Google is aware of them in the first place.
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  • You have to think big picture when you think on banning. Google has two goals. Their primary goal is to make money. How they do that is by driving the best user experience...or is it?

    If you were google would you really serve up the best possible search results? They only make money when people click. Now granted they have time and money and are going for the big picture so their time frames are much longer than ours. But they make more money in 2 particular situations. They make money if the search results are pretty close, but not quite on thus forcing the user to paid advertising. They also make money serving up top spots to adsense sites with highly relevant content that people will then click on. They don't make money by giving the user exactly what they want if it is a site that produces google no revenue. All that does is produce goodwill which is no doubt a significant item. But their best interests are to make us think they are going for the highest quality best authority results, while providing something less.

    For instance, remember the days when wikipedia was number 1 or 2 in virtually every search? That's not my experience any more. Same with .gov sites. I see good marketers chipping away at the rankings of both of those every day. Why? I don't know. Will it change if wikipedia every changes to an adsense model? I don't know. But you've got to think like google.

    Why is there all the news about various google slaps and debate about whether there is even a sandbox? Google could easily end the sandbox debate, but they want the general public to think they are weeding out sites. Same with slaps. They could easily roll those out gradually, but they prefer the massive free press from an all at once slap that makes it look like they are only about user experience. But even google would not last indefinitely if people were not clicking ads.

    Do what works. If it doesn't work try something else. And diversify your traffic as much as is practicable. For me, autoblogging is still working, but it is not the only thing I do.
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  • Most autoblogs I've seen unfortunately are very low quality and don't deserve to get rankings (an unpopular thing for a marketer to say I know).

    As long as they get rid of the junk without getting rid of legitimate news sites I think it's a good thing.
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  • It's best not to believe all the rumors and accusations flying around without properly analyzing the core issue first. We all know Google wants relevancy and rewards it, so let's look at autoblogs and see how they fit into the picture.

    Autoblog software by its very nature is dumb and cannot analyze the content it is putting on your blog for relevancy and accuracy. It just trawls the internet and searches for content that has the keywords you want. Some may be good content that fits in with the overall theme and message that your blog is trying to convey, and some may be utter trash.

    Let's think about what the average autoblogger does now. I believe that the majority feel that they can set the software on autopilot and then totally forget about it. Guess what happens next? Your autoblog gets messy, and filled with a ton of irrelevant and nonsensical content. If you don't closely monitor what content your autoblog software is using, you're going to end up with pure garbage. Period.

    Guess what happens next? Google is going to realize, sooner or later, that your blog is full of useless and irrelevant content. It's only a matter of time before your autoblog drops in the rankings (if it was even ranked to begin with) as a result.

    I don't know why people keep thinking (as evidence by the sheer number of threads started in here) that autoblogging is some 'set and forget' method. Nothing could be further from the truth. With the mass population of content all over the internet, it has become more vital than ever to monitor your autoblog's content, and so in my book this could never be considered an autopilot method.

    Paul
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  • Man all this makes my head spin! I have never been able to figure out why google would ban adsense sites - Adsense makes them money. If someone understands their logic please tell me.
  • I have. In fact, I think I have heard that several times over the past three years. Everytime Google makes a change to their algarythm, I seem to hear it.

    The result always seems to be the same, tho, AutoSpammers get nailed and AutoBloggers keep right on keeping on.

    It is the Content, not the method that will get sandboxed. Offer something of value and what is wanted by the searcher and you will be fine.
  • Google is great, rumours are greater. I never put all eggs in one basket. If your online presence is based only on google traffic . Most of my traffic comes from other places anyway. Besides even if your site were sandboxed, you can still show on google using good articles and videos.
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    • Totally agree here.

      That whole "never put all your eggs" cliche applies to everything, investing in stocks, business, mutual funds, assets etc. But especially IM.

      We all know how quickly google changes (algorith etc), and not to mention the internet all together.
  • I tried autoblogs but didn't get much success. I don't support autoblogs as they are not providing value to readers so thus Google. IMO
  • Oh yeah, thanks for the news,. auto blogging is killing me
  • Wow, lots of great OPINIONS! I hope Im wrong
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    • You are not wrong.

      Think of SERPS as a garden. In every garden you got weeds(autoblogs, scraper sites)
      that need to be taken out because it hurts the flowers. Google (the gardener)
      takes care of their garden and will do whatever it takes so the weeds don't kill their flowers.

      (Sometimes when killing the weeds flowers get hurt)
    • I'm quite sure you are. It's definitely not a blanket 'ban' that will affect all autoblogs, though it could certainly affect the ones that have dubious and irrelevant content. It's funny how rumors like this can get started just because one or two people run into problems due to incorrect implementation of a system.

      Paul
  • Ok I heard from a friend of a friend, who's aunts sisters brothers wifes mothers grandma works for Google - she cleans the toilets.

    She says that Google is going to get rid of Wordpress blogs, html sites, autoblogs, any website with a backlink and any site that is over 500 pages long!


    She also said that her sons uncles friends sisters boyfriend is living somewhere in Africa with Elvis, Michael Jackson and Princess Diana!
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  • Is that true? sad
  • Google is not blind. I don't know all the details of it, but the Google Dart sure tells a lot. Google's customers are its searchers. If it finds that 99% of the customers searching for a particular term like my site, is there a reason for Google to terminate it?

    Autoblogging won't be eliminated. Sure, Google may find a few footprints and trash some, but when they do, the Autobloggers will invent a different way that Google has not analyzed out yet.

    In the end, your list of buyers will be your best source of income.
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    • I sell advertising space. Google is one of my buyers. So is Amazon, eBay and various companies represented by CJ and others. That's my 'list'. End users of products aren't my customers any more than people driving by a billboard are the customers for an outdoor advertising company.
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    • I agree with most of this, except for one small point.

      Google's customers are not it's searchers. Google's customers are it's advertisers. The searchers are the product.

      Ultimately, Google has to maintain market share while keeping its paying customer's happy. It's not straightforward; it's a balancing act.

      Too far in one direction and you lose product to the other search engines and revenue goes down.

      Too far in the other direction and you lose customers to the other search engines and revenue goes down.
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  • Dude, my uncles mother's brothers, sisters cousin cuts the lawn for a guy who's janitor is the cousin of an executive at Google and they said that they're buying Facebook
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    • No S*&T
    • It's incredible how these rumors get started, and we seem to be hearing about many of them in this forum lately. Seems like many newbies like to rush in here and ask for opinions when they hear this or that is 'dead'...lol!
  • Banned


    A friend of a friend told me that Google is about to come down heavy on people who put an apostrophe where it has no right to be.

    The apostrophe means one of two things - ownership or a missing letter. It's (it is) not needed here. Another common misuse is -

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    • LOL, I was wondering if anyone would mention that.
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  • I believe google don't do such things....
  • And google hasn't brought in Bounce rate into it's algorithm yet. I think they use it in their adwords model.

    It will take a long time for Google to incorporate bounce rate and rank sites based on bounce rate. We are talking years.

    Right now, it's just the relevance of content on your site to the no. of links you have compared to your competition.
  • My sites with the best rankings in Google have the highest bounce rates. Sometimes up to 80 or more!

    But that doesn't Google from giving me thousands of visitors a day for that single site.

    I don't think it's true that the bounce rate will affect your SERPs negatively.
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    • Correct. If they are aware of them, they are simply devalued.

      There are a few reasons, one of the big ones is probably because the quality of the clicks from certain types of sites offer little value to the advertiser, so to keep the big spenders happy, they nuke the low value sites to provide better value to their top advertisers.

      That's not true. I have a friend whose cousins neighbors grandmother was told by her ham sandwich that Elvis moved out months ago. I've never known a ham sandwich to lie, so it must be true.
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  • Hi warriortx

    We spoke to our dog earlier, she's all ears but as clever as she is she hasn't heard about Google doing anything of the sort.

    Just another rumour we think.

    Regards

    Bronwyn and Keith
  • It is not true. I admit things with Google could change. However, at this point, this is not the case. Time to stop worrying, especially for those who adhere to using "white hat" business techniques, both online and offline. Best wishes to you.
  • This just in...

    As many of you know, Google uses a bevy of automated systems to render results in the SERPs, I just heard from a reliable sources that they are going to STOP using automated systems to render results in the SERPs to match their game plan to ban all auto blogs and put a screeching halt to any and all blog drip feeding.

    Get this...

    They are going to hire enough personnel to handle over 400 million plus queries per day, and they are going to hire enough graphic designers to handle their database that now has over 1.3 billion images.

    Just think, in a average of every two days, GHPs Google Human Processors will process close to staggering 1 Billion queries by hand with... NO MORE AUTOMATION!

    How cool is that?

    Says one source with close ties to a Google employee, under the condition of anonymity of course...

    To be clear, the source states that GOOG is going to be hiring real live people to process ALL of the queries received by Google.

    Amazing huh?

    Every time you Google a search term, REAL PEOPLE will be behind the scenes using no automation to gather the necessary data and once gathered, they will then in turn render the exact results in the SERPs that you are looking for.

    I heard that before they render the results in the SERPs, they will be testing each and every page for:
    • Content = must be of high literary award caliber to get into the top 200 results and Google is hiring MBAs to check.
    • Content Uniqueness = must be 100% unique and Google is hiring news editors to check
    • Page Loading Time = page must load in less that .0095 seconds
    • Graphic Appeal = each page must pass a graphical appeal review by a GGRE Google Graphical Review Expert
    • Platform = I heard Google will only be accepting pure HTML sites after April 1st, 2011
    • PR = to be in the top 100 results, a page must have a PR of 2 or above
    • Bounce Rate = I'm hearing the bounce rate must be under 25% or better
    • Age of Domain = To get in the top 50 results, the domain name must be aged at least 5 years
    • Backlinks = Only organically acquired backlinks will count and GOOG is hiring BLCs Back Link Checkers to confirm all backlnks
    Apparently, Google Ban's auto blogs and blog dripping is having a reverberating effect as Google is putting a halt to all automation... including their own, that's what I heard.

    Giles, the Crew Chief
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    • So now it'll be WikiGoogle?

      What bothers me the most is that here in the States we'll have to 1099 Google if we do over 600 searches.

      Progress, who needs it...:rolleyes:

      ~Bill
    • Hey Crew Chief

      Now thats FUNNY....LOL

      Just love the post.

      So they are going to De-automate????

      Regards

      Bronwyn and Keith
  • Really? I heard they would be powering it with hamsters.
  • I see no sign of this in my niche.
  • It's ok guys....EVERYONE JUST NEEDS TO CALM DOWN.

    I heard from a very reliable source that Matt Cutts only works from 9am to 5pm eastern standard time.

    This means as long as you post all of your adsense everywhere on your autoblog between the hours of 530pm and 830am, and then remove it all before Matt gets back into work.....Google will never be the wiser.

    Dolts at big G should not have been so cheap and tried to hire a few more watchdogs......
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  • Your friend at google, is he the janitor? no offense.

    If this was the case, then the future posting feature in wordpress would be taken out. And there is no news that WP will take that out, but its not going to prevent ppl from creating a plugin that allows it, actually there is already plugins that allows you to drip feed / future set your posts to another date in the future.

    On top of that, there is NO way, google, or any one else for that matter can work out if the content was drip feed into your blog. Even if it was the NSA, they will have no way of finding out.

  • Am I missing something here?

    How does one have a SERIOUS discussion and raise serious concerns based solely on a rumor from a ghost?

    And just so you know, the dude that works for Google the OP was referring to got fired this past Friday for failing to pass a drug test.

    He tested positive for crack cocaine, crystal meth, heroine, prescription hormones and Viagra.

    He also was found to have been pushing all of his websites to the top of the rankings in addition to de-indexing all of his major competition.

    When confronted about his dastardly behavior, he attacked a fellow employee's car with axes he had stored under his desk.





    People, you've got to stop taking these rumors so serious...

    YouTube - Timex Social Club Rumors
    Giles, the Crew Chief
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    • Well, that looks like one way to get your points taken seriously...

      ~Bill
  • Auto blogs was always against the ethos of Google, it simply wants unique content generated by real people
  • I think someone mentioned it a few thousand times. Put up a site with original content and make is useful. It's not that difficult. Really. Now, back to work, there's nothing to see here...

    TomG.
  • Not so. Google wants to serve up relevant content to the searchers, otherwise they'll switch to another search engine. I shouldn't think Google is that bothered where this relevant content comes from - it does not take Einstein to realise that real people are quite capable of generating unique drivel. This thread alone could provide a few examples.

    Google's only aim is to unite the searchers with the advertisers that fill it's coffers, and the only way it can do that is by providing the searchers with what they expect to find. That is more likely to be meaningful syndicated content than a page of hand-typed garbage stuffed with keywords and presented as useful.
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    • While this may be true, I'm not concerned. I currently have around 60 autoblogs that largely contribute to my monthly income but I really don't think Google would penalize all of them as the software I'm using doesn't leave any footprints and I also have a few unique articles added to each blog.

      It'd be a good move for Google to start banning splogs that don't give credit to original owners of the articles though. Can't wait to see that.
  • I don't believe it as it would be too difficult to distinguish the stuff Google wants to get rid of from "legitmate" uses of the same technology.
  • I think there will always be "autoblogs"

    it may just get a little tougher to get them ranked within the search engines
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    • It will never be difficult to rank them in Google, if you apply the same principles of link building to them, that you apply to your other websites.

      But if you want to think it difficult to impossible, that is fine... It clears out the field of competition, so that those of who don't worry about Google can clean up...
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    • a lot tougher the days of autoblogs are coming to a end.
  • I think when they spider your site the look for specific words in the script.
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    • I see we are still fueling this rumor mill as if it is a incontrovertible fact. OK, keep it up and this thread may become one of the most hilarious WF threads of all times.

      In the mean time, back to the out of control rumor mill...

      Actually, Google will no longer be spidering sites because that process, [much like auto blogging and blog dripping] is completely automated.

      If you recall someone, said they heard that Google was de-automating across the board.

      I heard that Google will be hiring 117,850,678 LCRs Line Code Readers, who will read line code line-by-line on the nearly 1 Billion queries they curently receive every two days.

      Their SOLE job will be to detect ANY type of software application that submits content on an automated basis no matter how great or how bad that content is. Once they find ANY sign of code indicating that the web master used software to submit content; they are going to nuke that website into oblivion! I heard, once they de-index these sites, they will never return to the Google index at any time.

      I also heard that Google ONLY wants content that is submitted by hand and to that end they are implementing a NO automated submission policy in their TOS. We are all going to have to sign this revised TOS or be faced with being exiled from Google immediately and permanently.

      As most of you know, GNews is a ACDS AUTOMATED Content Delivery System set up in the EXACT same manner as most auto blogging systems.

      Google will be announcing on January 1st, that they are going to shutter the current automated GNews system in its entirety. Once that automated system is shuttered, they will only be accepting manual applications from licensed reporters who have credentials with major news outlets who are willing to submit content one way... ONLY BY HAND.

      Says one Google senior management team leader speaking on the condition of absolute G4 classified anonymity...

      As you can see, if you are doing anything automated; STOP NOW or else face a painful GOOGLE exile.

      This may be a little off topic but I heard a orange fruit farmer found a Real Live orange that can talk and here's proof...
      YouTube - Orange After Dentist (David After Dentist Spoof)
      Giles, the Crew Chief
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  • As you can see, if you are doing anything automated; STOP NOW or else face a painful GOOGLE exile.

    My point exactly
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    • This thread is a wind up right?

      Seriously, does anyone believe this.

      For a start the people with brains will just take the footprints out, like they do now with wordpress plugins that fiddle your on-page SEO.

      This is the same nonsense as the threads that claim the earth will fall if you do automated link building.








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    • WOW, please don't tell me you actually took that quote seriously?

      You do know it was a joke right?

      If not, all I can say is wow...
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    • This just in... Google goes even further to BAN any and all IMATs Internet Marketing Automation Tools. Wait till you read this!

      I further heard that Google was also BANNING all automated video spokesperson systems. They only want LIVE people making such pitches and they will be hiring another 18,329,527 people to hard confirm that all such videos are live people and not pre-recorded messages.

      Any site using pre-recorded videos of any type will be instantly purged and then completely banned from all three Google indexes.

      Also, I heard that all Amazon review plugins have been banned! Google is only allowing LIVE reviews by people who have confirmed and verified their IP address, User Agent, ISP account, e-mail address and have a receipt proving they actually purchased and then used the item they are reviewing. That means Google is BANNING any and all plugins that provide a simple way to add Amazon products to WordPress blogs.

      Google is also banning all CMS Content Management Systems; they are demanding that all webmasters manage content by hand using absolutely NO AUTOMATION of any kind.

      Says one friend who has a friend who is the neighbor of Google senior employee...

      Another friend of a Google new hire heard this...

      There you have it folks...

      We might as well revert back to Windows for Workgroups 3.1, trash our HDTVs and pullout our vinyl records because Google's new paradigm shift has changed the landscape dramatically, according to sources.

      Oh, and for those of you who are wondering how to get your content to Google minus any automation; its simple!

      Write all of your articles using a pencil, paper and eraser, once you've completed the article, send it to Google and they will upload it by hand to the server you specify.



      Here's what we heard one person reportedly said who knows someone that uses this system exclusively...

      My question is, "Who is going to follow this guy?" :confused:

      YouTube - Come with me

      Giles, the Crew Chief
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  • Google will always find ways to make things difficult for everybody. This is the same old tricks since day one. All you know is just keep watching them like a hawk and pattern your sites according to the current algorithm.
  • You're absolutely right Giles...no doubt about any of that.

    I guess my being a "Newb" here hasn't afforded me the experience in this forum to come to those realizations yet....until now!

    Thanks and once again...

    DAMN FUNNY STUFF!!!
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    • Rsberg, the REAL funny part is by the time this group is bunched together, they don't realize it but they are against EVERYTHING related to IM.

      AND, in their world, those who don't agree with their passions and IM idealogies are pretty much morons. That's why I respond to them with comedy.

      In their world, if you don't do it THEIR way, Google is going to take you down!

      That's why I say have a few laughs at their expense and then move on.

      P.S. I see that you are in IN? Colts all the way!




      Giles, the Crew Chief
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  • The thing is, people have always abused resources and while some SEO's are creative twists to the rules, others are just plain SPAM cleverly designed and we cant disagree if Google isn't happy about it. Theyve been trying to get rid of SPAM since I cant remember and what better way to target a majority of their problem than by sandboxing these..right??
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  • Well I heard that Google are going to ban PHP and other scripting languages as frankly those can be used to - GASP! - automatically generate web pages. Instead they are going to insist that each and every web page be drawn up by hand in Dreamweaver for each user that visits (unique content, no copy/paste) and...

    ...this thread is getting out of hand! Nothing like a bit of Google speculation to fuel a debate though, is there? Ah, reminds me of a certain other forum. speaking of which, anyone hear when the next PR update is going to be?
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    • Ok smarty when I turn out to be right a lot of warriors are going to owe me a apology because everything leaves a foot print EVERYTHING.
  • Please make it stop.
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    • warriortx, even if the rumor had a smidgen of truth to it, know this for a certainty; in IM, there is a worldwide cadre of programmers, coders, researchers, analysts, Electronic Intel personnel, IMers and brain trusts that...

      WILL NOT be denied!
      WILL NOT be stopped!

      In this cat and mouse game with GOOG and other SEs, this cadre of IMers never rest, never sleep and never tire of making in-flight adjustments, nor of raising their game to the next level.

      When GOOG moves, we move and we always WIN! That's why they call us the invisible badgers...

      Nothing that GOOG does is enough to deter us!

      Nothing that anyone says is enough to scare us!

      Our stalwart motto, mantra and mentality is and will always be:
      We never waver
      We never flinch
      To our enemies
      We give not an inch
      We are the invisible badgers

      Get to know the mentality of this cadre by watching this video...

      YouTube - MUST WATCH: Honey Badger-The Most Fearless Animal on Earth
      GOOG can strike all they want and like the Honey badger; the cadre will STRIKE BACK!

      Oh, and the footprint thingy, Electronic Intel personnel, invented Internet Footprints, hahahaha...

      To those who may think the cadre is concerned about Internet footprints, don't make me laugh!!!! That's why the cadre is called invisible.

      Giles, the Crew Chief
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  • Ok we have heard from the sellers NOW how about the buyers that have had theres for more then a few months PLEASE TELL YOUR STORY--UNLESS YOU SELL THEM.
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    • Just for a moment I'm going to pretend there are still people in this thread taking the OP seriously.

      I think there are way too many generalisations going on here for it to be possible to say something without it getting caught on the fence people seem to be attacking each other behind.

      Are auto-blogs doomed - Of course not!!!!

      That's just stupid.

      Does the term 'auto-blog' mean the same thing to everyone? - No! and that is one of the problems this sort of discussion has.

      People seem to think that auto-blogging means using other people's content - that's just not true.

      I have auto-blogs that have been around for over 5 years and have never suffered any sort of Google problems.

      Some of them use my content and other peoples' and some use just my content.

      Having a team of writers creating content which then gets posted to lots of your own blogs - and then aggregated to your own news site is considered auto-blogging, but it's also a very common way to create a news site, the sort that Google love.

      Auto-dripping content is just a process - it's not good or bad. Auto-blogging is just a process.

      Google have some very clever people working for them and they're not completely ignorant of the different ways people use systems and tools to run their businesses.

      If you think Google would just blanket ban any method of posting content without consideration for the way it helps their business then you probably have Google-itus. Google does not own the Internet and is not the be-all and end-all of what you should consider, but also they're big enough to know that any business owner needs tools and systems in order to build their business.

      It's the way you use these things that will cause you problems - not the methods themselves.

      When you hear anyone say that a process will get penalised - it should set off alarm bells that they probably don't know what they're talking about - or are just spouting off their opinion.

      We all have opinions - but our experience of something doesn't create a universal law that means it must apply to everyone else.

      Lots of people have successful auto-blogs that have made them good money for a long time and will for a long time to come - because it's one way to be able to constantly provide good information that people want. Where that information comes from and whether it is new or unique etc.. is a completely different subject to how it gets published.

      Giles - you're very funny. I can't decide whether you're a mad genius or just mad

      Andy
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  • Very well said Andy....

    It's how you use the approach...not the approach itself!
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    • Andy that would be called... well uhm, uh Tri-Polar or something or another wouldn't it?

      No pretense needed there Andy, they took her serious as soon as they saw, "Google Ban's Auto..."

      That was their que to let those of us who use automated tools have it. They were chomping at the bits, regaling in our demise until they found out that there is a cadre of IMers who are not at all impressed with Google's hierarchy, technology, educational acumen or footprint sniffing tools. We respect GOOG, but we WILL NOT acquiesce to their vision of IM. Nor do we march to their barking orders.

      Hahahahaha... Well said my friend, well said.

      Take note auto bloggers and potential auto bloggers; you are reading pure strategical genius. To be clear, what Andy is explaining; that's how you AUTO BLOG!

      Ohh, so that's how its done, continue on, sir...

      Did you get that auto blog haters? [check]

      Andy, actually you just made a profound statement in the sense that many IMers believe that Google's sole purpose is to serve as the IM Police. They see GOOG as a regime that is hell bent on banning, de-indexing, sandboxing and otherwise unjustly slapping IMers and that is just not the case... unless you have Google-itus!

      Andy, that's the first time I heard that term and I'm running with it!

      Bingo! Right that down people!

      I'm reading this post and saying to myself, Andy has nailed some golden truths and his last statement is proof pudding.

      Oh, that's what they are implying [universal law] when they say, Adsense is dead, Auto blogging should be banned, ScrapeBox users are scum, BMD users are total spammers, I hate IM automation and yada, yada, yada, blah, blah blah?

      And as Bill Murray said in the move "Stripes" "That's a fact jack!" Hahahaha...

      Andy, that mentality comes from being in Electronic Intel, we see in the dark!

      Giles, the Crew Chief
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  • NONSENSE! and yet VERY TRUE

    Wordpress provides autoblogging. So its not autoblogging that is the issue here.

    its the type of stuff being posted that is.

    Google is all for relevancy. They dont give 2 ****s about people filling the net with content, they give a crap about it being relevant, and not just grabbed from other places on the net.

    If they were to target autoblogging they would have to target every wordpress blog online, along with other auto content systems.

    Again they look for fingerprints, certain things which indicate its not manned by someone.. Now that is EASY to spot! You dont need a room full of monkeys to tell the sites online that are total crap and filled with nonsense.
  • <<<< Is wondering how long it will take the nay sayers to try to figure out some form of rebuttle for all of those quotes...

    The rebuttle wont have much of a foundation to stand on but it will be presented anyway.

    Me thinks it wont be long now....
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    • Jill, they say, "Great minds think alike!"

      You use a electric turkey carving knife to trim those nose hairs; and I know you how much you have got to enjoy the process!

      I use a Stihl FS120 Weed Eater to trim my nose hairs and will be using a Stihl MS 310 Chainsaw to cut my toenails after the sales starts tomorrow.

      And by the way, AUTO BLOGGING rocks!

      If you are not auto blogging, you are missing out!

      Giles, the Crew Chief
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  • I have heard nothing about this, but I hope Google does manage to clean up its serps by filtering out content that is essentially junk, no matter how it does it.

    Will
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    • I agree with you, Karen!

      Scraping is one thing, but scraping without giving credit stinks!

      And no, I haven't heard anything about Google banning autoblogging either, not that
      this means anything -- I'm not keeping up that well thing this particular issue.

      Elisabeth
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  • Haven't heard anything about this but I have heard that backlink doesn't count as much as it used to.
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    • Believe it or not - of all the things I have tried and set up I have not done serious autoblogging.

      I got caffenated content when it first came out - just to play. My initial plan with it was to pull in the content and go back in and rewrite the majority of it just to be unique.

      Recently I've been perusing some plugins for amazon to pull that content in - and was thinking to pair it up with some other auto content. This would be for micro niches of course - the ones that would be the most difficult to get content on.

      Still shopping around.

      I was a bit upset earlier about your comment on the aliens as they do exist - but I had to let it slide. It is Thanksgiving after all.
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  • Never gonna happen.
  • If Google banned autoblogs today, google would collapse, there would be 20% at least less advertising space and less Adsense campaigns to match, be realistic.
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    • That sounds logical, but in reality at any given moment, the adwords users who
      currently are showing ads is probably at best, below 5%. Which means 95% of
      potential ads don't get shown. So a 20% drop in ad space would be
      instantly filled. And the quality of ad space would instantly improve, making
      minimum bids higher, more revenue to google and adsense users still in
      the mix.

      The percent of ads shown is probably much lower than 5%.

      Since thousands of websites are created each day, and google has an unending
      number of people wishing to get in on adwords and adsense, there would be
      no problem.

      Paul
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  • It's possible, but it depends how well they've developed their alogrithm.

    And TPW is correct, one of the 'easiest' ways (not the only way) is simply looking at footprints. Chances are 1000's of the 'autoblog' sites do things *exactly* the same way, because 1000's of people purchased 'Ultimate AutoBlog Profits by Joe Shmoe', and are too lazy to change anything.

    So yes, it is quite easy for Google (rather the computer algorithms) to detect. If they are stepping it up a bit (i.e., to find variations), that is also possible.

    If google has gotten wind of the 'auto-blog' abuse, then yes, it is very easy for them to sandbox those sites.

    John
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    this is interesting...not only sandboxing autoblog...but probably banning adsense now....
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  • I have to agree with Andy. Are they going to ban all the news sites, article sites, membership sites and all the rest?...

    On the other hand, we have seen it before that sometimes when they come up with a new rule or a new ban on something, they dont care if some legit sites get punished in the process. Why would they care anyway? Its Google!
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  • been warning people in here about this for a long time.

    Rsberg, eveytime one of these posts show up you come and say how good autoblogging is .... check to ignore mate. Ignorance is bliss.

    Time for people to bite the bullet and go out and create real blogs full of useful content that will gain intrest. Not just use the cheap, lazy ass way to clog up the net with yet more crap.

    I mean, comeon seriously sit down with yourself and think about it.
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    • I'm amazed it took you this long to post here celente...I mean really, everytime there's an autoblogging thread or anything remotely connected to it you are there pretty quickly spreading your hate.

      I've heard it from you before...many times...

      "real blogs...blah blah blah...real content...blah blah blah"

      Don't you ever get tired of trash talking other peoples choices in how they approach IM? Have you ever thought that it really is NONE of your business? No one elected you supreme being over all that is IM. I'm sure you think you are but I promise you...you're not!

      I bet it burns your ass that none of my blogs (and many others I know and talk to pretty regularly) have been affected yet several "unique" content sites have suffered and dropped in the rankings due to this new Google change.

      Also...I have NEVER said "how good autoblogging is", what I have said is that you (and many other "haters") have sadly mistaken what it is all about, what it can offer not only the individual reader but the internet as a whole and the fact that it can offer value to both. I along with many others here have found ways to make it work for us AND provide value. I'm sorry you cant seem to accept that but as usual...thats just your opinion!
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    I have a friend that knows a guys, mail man, neighbors, nephews, mother inlaws, bankers kids teachers, doctors patients, webmaster that says Google will never stop auto blogs! :rolleyes:

    They might stop the herds footprint, but not the guy that took the time upfront to not stand out like all the other thousands that use the same setup/themes.
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  • I think it all goes back to exactly how you carry this process out just like with many other topics. If you create a new autoblog and then have 10 articles post to it on a daily basis you might find Google an unfriendly player on your team. If instead you slowly drip articles to your autoblog and allow the process to be much more natural in scope you should be just fine in my opinion.

    I don't come to that answer lightly either for my very job is based on that statement above being correct.
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  • i am getting first page for 10 or more slightly competitive keywords for my auto content blog (using rss feed)
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      That's why I block hotlinking my downloads server side. :rolleyes:

      Stops guys like you from scraping the good stuff, from my RSS feeds.
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  • The guys from Google are "inches away" for the last few years
  • well, is there a way to verify that information ?
  • A lot of people here don't know what Banned is, Why should someone consider them banned if they're still indexed?
  • These are the kinds of threads that make me feel bad about the human race. "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!".

    I didn't read the entire thread, and I don't think I have to. This topic shows up at least twice a week, and has since 2006 or so. So lets get on with a few things to show that Google isn't going to shoot their own foot, and do away with drip-fed blogs.

    1) Google is a Search Engine. In being a search engine, they have no original content themselves. All the content they show is written by someone else. Amazing!

    2) Googles favorite websites above all others, is NEWS websites. If you're one of those people that gets up in the AM and puts on the news while having breakfast, you may not know it, but your not watching anything new. Everything shown on the news has already been posted online and discussed almost to death. It is than put on the news.

    Example: Fox and NBC talked about a website detailing government leaks about a month or so ago. The site is huge (Hundreds of pages of original content), and was up for months. This site was read, talked about, bashed, and everything else for the better part of 3 months. Thats when Fox and NBC decided to discuss it with the public on Television. These news sites posted the information on their website, and even LINKED to the website so readers could view the page!!! (Yes, lets give backlink juice to the guy releasing government secrets, great job Fox and NBC!)

    3) Not all Drip-fed blogs are Auto-blogs. I could order 100,000 articles from warriors here, and post them all on a delayed timer (or "Drip-Fed") to be posted 100 per day for the next 1,000 days. Lets assume that 90% of that content is real content, and that only 10% is rehashed crap that was run through one of those stupid spinner programs. This would make the site a very legit source to get information, but also means it is a drip-fed blog. Is google really going to block this site? Of course not. That would HURT Google as a Business.

    4) Google is not the most powerful resource on the internet anymore. They gave that power to Facebook when they decided to post Ads on Facebook in hopes of driving more traffic to their search engine. I haven't seen it as of yet, but I honestly believe that they will be doing the same with Youtube soon.
    Yes, Google gets over 60% of "SEARCH ENGINE TRAFFIC", but YouTube and Facebook have more traffic than Google.


    Google isn't the biggest dog in the yard anymore. Many marketers get most of their traffic through sources other than Search Engines.

    Google isn't going to slap drip-fed blogs. They would be shooting themselves in the foot, and in the Internet Race, you need every advantage you can get.

    IF Google ever did something that hurt all these sites like everyone has been crying about for years... Google would slowly collapse into the world of the poor folk, and Yahoo and Bing would start a new battle for who will take first place as the "Search Engine Leader".

    Be a smart Internet Marketer and take this advice...

    * TAKE ACTION!!! (You can't make money online reading forums, No offence WF!)
    * Stop worrying about 1 traffic source when there are litterally HUNDREDS or more traffic sources.
    * The more you put in, the more you get back.
    * THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!!! (Take the blinders off your eyes. There is more to the internet than the Google/Yahoo/Bing (MSN) Fight. Try Article Directories, Document Directories, Slideshow Directories, Micro Blogs, Social Networks, Video Directories, OFFLINE promotion, Word of Mouth... The list goes on and on, you just have to be willing to take off the blinders and put yourself out there.)

    One last thing... If you rely 100% on Google to get all of your traffic, then you might as well quit IM now and save yourself the time, money, and heartbreak. Relying on a single source for web traffic is like a downs syndrom child running a race against the olympic racers. You wont win unless all the other racers quit.
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  • Autoblogs are still making money for those who know what they are doing. In fact, I have started building more these days and I will continue to do.
  • I would personally just keep the backlinks manual, the backlinks will stick for longer, and its just a higher quality approach in general.
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