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Do backlinks need to be relevant to your site's content to have significant value? I bought a backlink package and none of the links are relevant to my site so I'm concerned. Any insight is appreciated.
#backlinks #relevant
  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Hi PaulintheSticks,

    You will probably get mixed advice on this due to the ambiguity of your question. It seems that many folks, especially on this forum, define relevancy differently than search engines.

    What makes a backlink relevant to your site is the anchortext of the link, the text near the link and the page's keyword relevance. Please note that website topics have no importance in SEO. All factors are from page level signals.

    So if your backlink placements include keywords in or near your anchortext then those are likely considered relevant by search engines. However, if those backlinks do not include any signals of relevance to your targeted keyword then they have no direct linking power, they only serve to boost the PR of the landing page, which has no direct influence on ranking your page for your keyword.

    You must channel that PR through a relevant link before you will see any ranking benefit. And even then, since that is a second order effect the benefit is significantly less than with relevant backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulintheSticks
    Thanks for your response.

    Sorry, I should clarify. The content on the sites that I have backlinks on is not relevant to my site's content. For example, I have a link to my website about roofing in my signature on a forum that is about photography. But the anchortext contains the keywords I'm trying to rank for.

    If I'm understanding you correctly, this type of link will not have "page keyword relevance" because its about photography, not roofing. But I will still get partial "relevancy" since the link's anchor text contains my keywords. Is that correct?
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Hi PaulintheSticks,

      You are correct, Google views relevancy as a relative, not absolute value. So each link is scored for relative relevance. However, since anchortext is the most important signal of relevance, your backlinks will probably score higher in that regard.
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    • Profile picture of the author mad.hat
      Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

      Thanks for your response.

      Sorry, I should clarify. The content on the sites that I have backlinks on is not relevant to my site's content. For example, I have a link to my website about roofing in my signature on a forum that is about photography. But the anchortext contains the keywords I'm trying to rank for.

      If I'm understanding you correctly, this type of link will not have "page keyword relevance" because its about photography, not roofing. But I will still get partial "relevancy" since the link's anchor text contains my keywords. Is that correct?
      Yeah mate, you got it. Its not as great as having a link from bluewidgets.com with the anchor text bluewidgets pointing to your site bluewidgets.net but you'll still get plenty of value from it depending on the pagerank of the domain. Of course, most of those backlink packets are from high domains so you should be fine.

      One thing you could do instead of just buying more packets would be to find a footprint for those forums and try and find your own forums. This way you will not have to keep buying packets and you can create accounts on forums that everyone else isn't already creating backlinks on.
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  • Profile picture of the author eilanor
    hi there.. im a newbie and I want to know more about seo... can you share some of your ideas? i would be very thankful. godbless
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  • Profile picture of the author leo.prash
    yeah having relavent backlinks is only suggestable, coz it will increase the increase the pr but you can also try to use irrelavent backlinks with high PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author mchljns678
    A visitor reading a page containing your backlink is more likely to follow it and check out your website if that link is related to the topic of the page the visitor is reading. Going down this line, if the visitor is particularly interested in the content he/ she finds on your website, he/ she is more likely to be hooked into buying your products or services. While all this seems to point towards relevant backlinks being nothing less than ideal for one's website, the truth is they involve one major drawback - unlike generic backlinks, highly relevant backlinks are more difficult to obtain.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by mchljns678 View Post

      A visitor reading a page containing your backlink is more likely to follow it and check out your website if that link is related to the topic of the page the visitor is reading. Going down this line, if the visitor is particularly interested in the content he/ she finds on your website, he/ she is more likely to be hooked into buying your products or services. While all this seems to point towards relevant backlinks being nothing less than ideal for one's website, the truth is they involve one major drawback - unlike generic backlinks, highly relevant backlinks are more difficult to obtain.
      Hi mchljns678,

      Okay, I'll bite on this one.

      You are right, they do require one tiny incy wincy bit of effort beyond adding nothing but purely useless spam. But soooo worth the effort! And if you see that as a "major drawback", ...then you just might be a spammer.
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  • Profile picture of the author headsbrains
    Of course a refreshing shift from the traditional approach, this one is a good way to navigate some of these required links on to your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author creativekone
    I want to know some more about Seo. Can you help and share some of your knowledge. Thanks for this info.
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Originally Posted by EricShaun View Post

    Someone shoot that spambot
    Yeah, really!

    I really don't like seeing the trend of auto-posting those much longer scraped snippets, like the one just above your post. ^^
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  • Profile picture of the author Ivelin2008
    Relevant backlinks doesn't mean just "anchor text".

    You need backlinks from pages relevant to your pages. Let's say you have a page optimized for the keyword "blue widgets". The most powerful link you can get is from another page talking "blue widgets" that has some authority..

    If an authority on "blue widgets" says your page is about "blue widgets" google will trust it and rank it higher for that term

    And it will give you much more link juice than if a page about "Cat Juggling Tutorials" links to you. A relevant backlink is not just a link with the proper "anchor text" but a link from a relevant web page. Of course having your keyword in the acnhor text is also very important.

    At least that's my understanding of SEO.. I hope what I said makes sense
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by Ivelin2008 View Post

      Relevant backlinks doesn't mean just "anchor text".

      You need backlinks from pages relevant to your pages. Let's say you have a page optimized for the keyword "blue widgets". The most powerful link you can get is from another page talking "blue widgets" that has some authority..

      If an authority on "blue widgets" says your page is about "blue widgets" google will trust it and rank it higher for that term

      And it will give you much more link juice than if a page about "Cat Juggling Tutorials" links to you. A relevant backlink is not just a link with the proper "anchor text" but a link from a relevant web page. Of course having your keyword in the acnhor text is also very important.

      At least that's my understanding of SEO.. I hope what I said makes sense
      Hi Ivelin2008,

      I believe you are mostly correct. (Notice how I said "mostly")

      Google seems to view relevance as a relative value. That means anchor text alone makes a page a little bit relevant, while your example provides extreme relevance. Extreme relevance is best, a little relevance is essential and no relevance has little to no direct value. (it can still be used indirectly by channeling PR through a downstream "relevant link").
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    • Profile picture of the author FredJones
      You would get mixedd opinions. My opinion is that you ought to go for high-authority links (good PR, old trusted domain etc) but the page need not be relevant. However, you MUST get the right anchor text. For example, if a Wikipediap age talks about cats but gives your page a link about oranges, and your page is about oranges, then bingo, you have a errific backlink in place, IMO.
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      • Profile picture of the author Wakunahum
        Sometimes it's an issue of ease of getting the backlinks.

        While a page with content related to yours with a backlink might be more valuable on certain subjects it's hard to find 100s of links like this.

        It's much easier to get 50 links on other types of pages of content than finding one with related content.

        On broad topics staying relevant is easy. In smaller ones it's harder.

        If it's taking you hours to find one link when you can make 100s in the same time, why bother being relevant if the others are producing more results?
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