Facebook ads not working?

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I'm trying to set up a campaign on Facebook, however, I've run into a bit of trouble.

I set my budget at $1.50 a day (low I know, but I'm just trying to figure out how well it will respond.)

I then set my Pay for Impression amount at $1 per 1,000 (Suggested was $0.82.) I'm getting an error that says:

Any ideas? Thanks!
#search engine optimization #ads #facebook #working
  • Raise your budget.

    If you can't afford more then $1.50 per day, don't bother with it.

    That's exactly what they're telling you.
  • The message is fairly straightforward. $1.50 a day is not enough. Bump it up to $20 a day and it will work fine. You actually don't need to spend that $20, you just need to have it available. $1.50 a day doesn't give you enough water to float your boat.
  • They may have an unpublished minimum spend requirement spec, most testing is done with at least $5 - $10 a day, I hear that recommend bid prices may drop after an ad has run for a while.
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    • I have used FB ads a few times and what you say is true. You may bid .50 but you are only charged .25 for example, because the bid price drops. You don't pay what you bid usually, you pay a lesser amount based on their internal calculations.

      That said, it does pay to keep you eye on it so the system does not drain too much too soon.
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  • Your minimum daily budget has to be more than a $1 and more than 2x your bid. Try setting it to $2. Also, a tip: you generally want to start with CPC, as your ad could be so bad that you don't get a single click, and before you know it, your entire budget is gone.
  • Your approach is very logical; I applaud you. Ignore those that will insist that the ONLY way to do PPC on FB is with a big budget; its simple math..

    2 = 50% of 4 <--> 200 = 50% of 400

    The only difference between the two calculations above (regarding PPC on FB) is that the smaller number equates to a smaller margin of error; which really isn't "error" when you're "testing"... anyway...

    FB states that the minimum daily budget is $2

    HTH
    PLP
    tecHead
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    • That's what I was thinking. Also, it's been about three hours, my ad went from pending, active, and all eaten up :x! My ctr was about .04%, with 15,000 impressions and 6 clicks. Is that decent? Please be aware that I've done very little Facebook advertising and very little PPC in general.
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      Please tell me you are kidding!

      You actually think 2 out of 4 is the same as 200 out of 400 when it comes to testing accuracy?
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  • Even those that have been advertising on facebook for a long time will throw a lot of money at it in order to find a winning campaign. Putting 1 or 2 dollars in at a time is just going to be a slow money pit.
  • I agree with them. I think your results will change by raising the price or bid.
  • Firstly, all due respect to everyone responding to my theory...

    @Thomas - I love math so much because of what it represents... unmitigated truth

    It doesn't matter from which angle you approach the "laws" of mathematics; numbers will never lie and always tell you the same thing regardless of the angle.... (and it does it Universally).

    The original premise of my post was to let the OP know that their assumption that they could participate effectively in a FaceBook PPC campaign without spending a mint. This still stands.

    Note (@JMichaelZ):
    Never once was it implied anywhere by the OP or myself that he (or anyone working with small dollar amounts) should "stop" testing at, (our current popular number of), 4 hits.

    We're talking about a "daily" spend limit.

    According to mathematical law; (regarding sales conversions - to keep things in context, here); a consistent repeatition of the same calculation ultilizing small sets of numbers will yield the same results as a larger set of numbers... as long as the control environment is the same. Ad, headline, picture, landing page.

    Who said anything about "predicting"; (which is NOT a part of the 'conversion calculation'); outcome? We're 'calculating' here.

    @garyv - Averages are calculated by adding a set of numbers together and dividing the sum by the count of numbers in that set.

    Conversions are based on a ratio calculation.
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      No one said he needed to spend a mint on ppc.

      You seem to miss the point we are all making. You can't accurately calculate conversions without a large enough sample size.

      You can keep posting all about math doesn't lie. It doesn't lie but it doesn't accurately reflect the truth unless you have enough data.

      Your 2 out of 4 may end up 5 out of 100 once you continue to test.

      Does that mean math was wrong?

      Please explain how I can get 2 out of 4 sales and then get 1 sale out of the next 6 clicks.

      Is the first 4 clicks more accurate then the whole 10 clicks? What conversion should I be using?


      With all due respect, I have a feeling you have no experience in what you are talking about in this thread.
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  • lol, since we're nit-picking... I never said anyone did say he needed to spend a mint. If you scroll up and read what was said; I advised him to ignore anyone that would tell him that.

    Let me repeat that, again... ...you can't accurately calculate...... oxymoron of the year...

    No, I'm not missing your "non-mathematical" point.. you're missing mine, actually

    And see, this statement excentuates my point, (on so many levels)... "accurate calculation" consists of a calculation that when reversed gives the original set...

    2 +2 = 4 <--> 4 - 2 = 2

    Math is absolute; therefore "enough data" (in THIS case) is the data you have to work with. We're not talking about a quadratic equation, here. We're talking about a very straight forward calculation...

    Conversion ratio = Sales divided by Hits... the only extra level of complication you can go with that is "unique hits".

    Like my Nana used to say, "You're doin' that funny math."

    You're speaking in 'abstracts' NOT absolutes. Just like with the next statement...

    I'm not even going to go into the mathematics any more... either you get it or you don't. I'm not speaking from a marketing standpoint.. YOU are.. I'm coming strictly from a mathematical standpoint.

    Put on your marketing hat and yeah, you start factoring in things like trends and environmental variables... and I'm not discounting the fact that those factors can play a significant role in the full understanding of your conversions data. But, on a totally rudimentary level; (which is where the OP is starting from); it is best for him to utilize Occam's Razor and keep it simple. The core of his conversion data will stem from the mathematics. Once he's got the core worked out, THEN (and only then) should he start to factor in the abstract data sets.

    (of course, IMHO)

    ..and at this point, I'm going to agree to disagree on this topic, my friend
    PLP
    tecHead
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      TecHead, how much ppc have you done?

      You advice is going to screw over a lot of people if they try it out. You are not helping the op out at all.

      Why don't you start testing your theories and get back to us when you lose some money.
  • Sorry tecHead, but people are going to lose a lot of money (and many already have) if they follow your logic. Of course math doesn't lie. But it doesn't always reveal the truth either. Especially if there are too many missing variables. If you made it past elementary math, then you know that every variable must be given - OR the surrounding evidence must be such that the variables can be figured out.

    In the case provided above, 2 conversions out of 4 impressions is a simple enough math equation, if we were talking simply about doing a math problem. But the conversation was not about math, it was about conversions and future spending. Thus there were way too many missing variables to really give an accurate conversion rate.

    - Unless of course you're getting ready to launch a product over at clickbank - then the 2 out of 4 conversions could easily be 50%
  • Raise your budget, and try changing your bids
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    • Holly **** thread was jacked.

      Also, I believe that the $10 I've spent so far has lead to roughly 3 - 5 sign ups on my site. Now remember, registration is free on my site. So no I didn't sell anything.
  • From what I understand Thomas is right you need to spend more to see what the actual conversions are. I haven't done PPC yet but am just studying it and from what I read everywhere is that you don't have to spend alot but you have to spend more than what you are to see what the conversions are. I can't remember the numbers though.

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    I'm trying to set up a campaign on Facebook, however, I've run into a bit of trouble. I set my budget at $1.50 a day (low I know, but I'm just trying to figure out how well it will respond.)