Lost my AdSense account

13 years ago

This has happened to many people making good adsense money.

They can shut your account for any reason what soever and sometimes even if you havn't broken any of the rules.

That is why it is important to have many streams of income online, affiliate marketing, your own product, your own ebook, your own membership site.

Sorry to hear that though.

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oneplusone

13 years ago

If you understand their "mindset" at the moment, this is exactly the kind of offer Google wants to have nothing to do with.

Auto-Pilot income, no work involved etc

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AFI

13 years ago

Originally Posted by oneplusone

If you understand their "mindset" at the moment, this is exactly the kind of offer Google wants to have nothing to do with.

Auto-Pilot income, no work involved etc

Yeah I realize that now. Any help on how to get my account back?

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oneplusone 13 years ago

Originally Posted by AFI

Yeah I realize that now. Any help on how to get my account back?

I've never had Adsense or any other accounts closed, so I'd be guessing if I gave you any advice on what to do.

From what I've read you can appeal, but maybe it's time for you to move onto bigger and better things.
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Matt Ward

13 years ago

From what I've read, most of the time it's an automatic bot/process that shuts down Adsense accounts. I hope you get your account reinstated, but I think it's almost impossible to get in contact with a real human at Adsense or find out the reason they closed your account.

(ironically, the 'EasyPPCMoney' front page has a positive testimonial from you :p )

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AFI 13 years ago

Originally Posted by mattward

(ironically, the 'EasyPPCMoney' front page has a positive testimonial from you :p )

Because I was naive and believed them at one time. They lied and said it was above board. I told them to remove my testimonial, we'll see if they do. I kinda hope they don't because sometimes people PM me asking if its a scam and I can warn them that it is.
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fatboy

13 years ago

In all honesty, I have lost a few adsense accounts in the past, past meaning a couple of years ago. I learned from my mistakes and just built new accounts.

I would suggest that you do the same thing. Just open another account, as you will probably never get that one back.

Sorry to hear about your luck, but this is good that you posted it so others can learn from your misfortune.

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sam770

13 years ago

Originally Posted by fatboy

In all honesty, I have lost a few adsense accounts in the past, past meaning a couple of years ago. I learned from my mistakes and just built new accounts.

I would suggest that you do the same thing. Just open another account, as you will probably never get that one back.

Sorry to hear about your luck, but this is good that you posted it so others can learn from your misfortune.

will they let her open a new adsense account that is associate TO THE SAME BANK ACCOUNT as the older adsense account?

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mahedi

13 years ago

I submit my in formation in Google adsense.But there is no message in my email account.Though 3 days already past.

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BlondieWrites

13 years ago

My account was banned about eight years ago, the very month that I made my first big payout (over $900 instead of taking three months to make $100).

No one said why, no one would give me a reason..... they just did it. Plus, of course, they kept my $900 plus.

There are a lot of better alternatives than Adsense. Chango, Infolinks, Chitika, Vibrant Media, etc.

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Rukshan

13 years ago

Forget about it. The chance is very less to get it back. You better to focus another network.

Good luck!

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pathan198 13 years ago

Originally Posted by blog8491

Forget about it. The chance is very less to get it back. You better to focus another network.

Good luck!

I agree to this fact completely. Almost impossible to get ur banned Account back!
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CyberSorcerer

13 years ago

Not sure about Adsense, but I have had my whole Google account shutdown and got it back but not after a lot of discussion back and forth. It was over a questionable security tactic I did which was on the up-and-up.

After some talks, and verification, they found out I was a security researcher and this is what I do. But they did go back through the whole history of my account usage to see some things that were done. And I guess I fit the profile I told them so I got my account back.

The total money in "that" Adsense account is only $12 but improper Adsense usage isn't why it was banned. Not sure going about how to get it back for Adsense TOS violation.

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bisma anwar

13 years ago

Forget that account...It is very very difficult to get that account back...u will waste your time in doing so...so buddy c'mon make a new account and start earning again

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shuichi

13 years ago

Originally Posted by bisma anwar

Forget that account...It is very very difficult to get that account back...u will waste your time in doing so...so buddy c'mon make a new account and start earning again

Yupz create new account or search service for help you to unbanned your account.
But i think create new account is the best way to start earning $$$ again.

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Mike Hlatky

13 years ago

I got my Adwords account banned last year, without running a single ad!

Good luck getting your Adsense account back.......
Not even worth trying, in my opinion.

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Rukshan

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky

I got my Adwords account banned last year, without running a single ad!

Good luck getting your Adsense account back.......
Not even worth trying, in my opinion.

Sometimes they restore adwords accounts. But adsense is too difficult.

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ss442 13 years ago

Unfortunately, Google is very "one sided" regarding TOS and there is no remediation noted in the TOS if anyone get's the boot.

Google and it's systems work overtime to protect against click fraud as much as devious entrepreneurs work hard to exploit any weaknesses.

I checked the site, try this page for an answer.

Search results - Webmaster Tools Help
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WD Mino

13 years ago

Hi Jennifer,

It is much the same as adwords accounts they can shut em down with no reason at all. Bidvertiser offers a publisher program and cindy above mentioned a few also
You are able to file a dispute with google which they tell you when you get the email but the chances of them reversing their decision is really slim.

I would just chalk it up to experience and focus on what matters technically the money was not yours yet so you lost nothing.

Don't sweat the small stuff
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kindsvater

13 years ago

That was a quick ban. Although not unexpected at all given the program. (I thought there was another thread discussing why this was bogus).

Anyway, my opinion is that there is virtually no chance of getting your Adsense account back.

Never hurts to try.

But there is a difference between an innocent mistake and a "targeted traffic system" that magically works for an infinite type of websites that appears to be defrauding Google. From Google's point of view, which is most important here, they undoubtedly see this as intentional fraud.

So the chances of a recovery, already small, realistically drop into a black hole.

It's not that you were lied to. It's that you were looking to score "Massive Income With Adsense - No Work Involved". From Google's perspective, why should they reopen your account?

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theimdude

13 years ago

i once clicked by mistake on a add on one of my own sites. They banned me for that and i did a appeal explaining what i did by mistake applied with a appeal.

i waited a few weeks and got my account back.

What is it that you did wrong for them to close your account?

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Kay King

13 years ago

You posted this comments 4 DAYS after receiving a review copy through the WF classified thread:

You are literally on auto pilot and you increase your PPC earnings by doing nothing! I was skeptical at first but after seeing it with my own eyes it works!

Recommended for EVERYONE. You are a fool if you don't give this system a try.

Five days after that you posted -

I am SO GLAD that I signed up for this free trial. I made $150 in one week on complete auto pilot! I know people make these claims all the time, but I literally gave them my domain and sat back and watched the AdSense revenues roll in.

And you didn't think that might violate the TOS? You didn't worry about where that traffic might be coming from or whether people were being paid to click on your ads or.....?

I'm really sorry to hear you lost your adsense account - but I'm not surprised that would happen. You can try to get it back but I doubt it will work.

kay

Edit: Jennifer - the reason I posted the quotes was not to make you feel worse. It's an example of why we caution members not to quickly buy into testimonials. People get excited quickly and can leave glowing recommendations...but the product may not be good in the long run.

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AFI

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

And you didn't think that might violate the TOS? You didn't worry about where that traffic might be coming from or whether people were being paid to click on your ads or.....?

For the last time, I believed them when they said it wasn't against Google's TOS. I was in direct communication with the program's owner behind the scenes and she was a nice girl and there's more to it than what it looks like on the surface.

Yes I gave them a testimonial because the system DOES work, but obviously they are scammers and put one over on me. I've only been doing this since September. I don't know anything about Internet Marketing yet. I believe they even picked me because I'm a newbie. They picked the other guy he's new too.

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paulgl

13 years ago

I feel bad for you Jennifer, absolutely lousy. Contrary to popular belief, this forum
is about helping people succeed. It sucks when a fellow warrior goes down.

Nobody here works for google, so I would never take anyone's word for any
TOS about google. We can only speculate.

In response to those who claim something nefarious about google:

Fiction: AdSense disables accounts and issues warnings at random.

Fact: We rely upon a detailed set of guidelines when looking at policy violations, and these policies are published in our Help Center. Our intent is to keep Google's content and search networks safe and clean for our advertisers, users and publishers. We seek to be as transparent and consistent with our decision making.

I'll give you heaps of credit to actually admit that maybe it was you doing something
wrong. The vast majority swear they never do a thing.

I don't blame you for ranting and questioning. Dust yourself off, move on. Make it
an opportunity to really dig in. I may try and contact google, but don't hold your
breath or wait.

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13 years ago

here is an important link that explains why using adsense is actually a way to loose money

Why I Will Never Use Adsense on a Blog Again

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by sam770

here is an important link that explains why using adsense is actually a way to loose money

Why I Will Never Use Adsense on a Blog Again

And as a reader of his blog so rightly pointed out... he has an Adsense block right below the post title of why he will never use Adsense on his blog! Yeah, definitely follow his information. Do as I say, not as I do. Does he work for the government by chance?

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Coast2Coast

13 years ago

Originally Posted by remodeler

And as a reader of his blog so rightly pointed out... he has an Adsense block right below the post title of why he will never use Adsense on his blog! Yeah, definitely follow his information. Do as I say, not as I do. Does he work for the government by chance?

FWIW, the post is a guest post. See the response to that reader who'd pointed it out.

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Ghostinthemachine

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sam770

here is an important link that explains why using adsense is actually a way to loose money

Why I Will Never Use Adsense on a Blog Again

ha ha ha.
The irony in this blog post is that big fat, huge, Google Adsense block directly above the article about how this guy will never use Google Adsense. I love it!

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cooler1

13 years ago

Ive just had an email from Google. My adsense account has been disabled also. I will be appealing, can't see it doing much good though.

I was only subscribed for 1 week also but that was enough to get banned. As soon as i saw the Analytics data was showing the time on site as 1 second, i contacted them to ask for a refund for the remainder of the subscription and told them to stop the traffic. I only got a partial refund though.

Even everyone who took the 7 day trial of this scam will get banned also.

I filed a dispute with PayPal 5 days ago but ive had no reply from them yet.

I think this scam operation is being run in Romania. Their name on Paypal is Oana Livia Gaza. Their site is still live now so i imagine people are still being conned right now by the "100% safe and legal" crap. Why hasn't Google or any online regulator shut them down?

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paulgl

13 years ago

Originally Posted by cooler1

Ive just had an email from Google. My adsense account has been disabled also. I will be appealing, can't see it doing much good though.

I was only subscribed for 1 week also but that was enough to get banned. As soon as i saw the Analytics data was showing the time on site as 1 second, i contacted them to ask for a refund for the remainder of the subscription and told them to stop the traffic. I only got a partial refund though.

Even everyone who took the 7 day trial of this scam will get banned also.

I filed a dispute with PayPal 5 days ago but ive had no reply from them yet.

I think this scam operation is being run in Romania. Their name on Paypal is Oana Livia Gaza. Their site is still live now so i imagine people are still being conned right now by the "100% safe and legal" crap. Why hasn't Google or any online regulator shut them down?

How or why would google shut them down? They are not internet police. And
there is nothing illegal about it.

All of us probably do things that break adsense TOS. We just don't use adsense on
those endeavors.

Perfectly legal to do things against adsense TOS, believe it or not. Perfectly okay
to have websites that break adnsense TOS and even profit from them.

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Kay King

13 years ago

Why hasn't Google or any online regulator shut them down?

Google could shut down a click fraud site - or may just shut down all the publishers who are willing to sign up. Pretty smart of Google when you think about it. It's happened before with other similar sites, too.

Yes, you were scammed. But in signing up for those promises, you were willing to scam google. There is no way that service provided quality visitors nor did it promise to do that. The sales page screams "click fraud".

What it did was provide false reassurance of "it's ok" and offer to "do it for you" which allowed you to think "I'm not responsible". It's your adsense account - your agreement with google - and you are responsible for it.

Learn from your mistakes - don't believe everyone who tells you what you want to hear. Be skeptical, ask the hard questions and be careful what you buy into.

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paulgl 13 years ago

You are 100% right, as usual, Kay King.

I know google has been successful at suing a few US based click fraud sites.
Overseas would be difficult. Cheaper, easier to just ban the publisher.

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Coast2Coast

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Google could shut down a click fraud site - or may just shut down all the publishers who are willing to sign up. Pretty smart of Google when you think about it. It's happened before with other similar sites, too.

Yes, you were scammed. But in signing up for those promises, you were willing to scam google. There is no way that service provided quality visitors nor did it promise to do that. The sales page screams "click fraud".

What it did was provide false reassurance of "it's ok" and offer to "do it for you" which allowed you to think "I'm not responsible". It's your adsense account - your agreement with google - and you are responsible for it.

Learn from your mistakes - don't believe everyone who tells you what you want to hear. Be skeptical, ask the hard questions and be careful what you buy into.

kay

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tirupati 13 years ago

Then did u try to over the rules of google ?
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smwordsmith 13 years ago

Two very important take-home lessons here:

1. Always get your information first-hand. That means, read Google's TOS yourself.

2. Never put all your eggs in one basket. Diversify your income sources to prevent a total shut-down due to any change in TOS.

Oh, and one more- if it's sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

I am sorry you lost your AdSense account.
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toolmaster

13 years ago

Try replacing your adsense ads with direct links to CPA offers like email and zip submits. If you find the right offers for your niche you might make more then you did with your adsense.

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JohnMcCabe

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AFI

As I said......I was in very close contact with the program owner and she was a very nice lady. I did a BETA test from them and she swore up and down there was no arbitrage or against Google TOS. The only thing I should have known is to not trust people at their word. She really scammed me and I thought I had better first impressions of people than that. It's not like I just signed up for this program blindly, I was behind the scenes and helped them in their BETA trials and even gave them a testimonial.

Keep your head up, Jennifer. Any time you admit to a mistake or misjudgment, the preachers come out of the woodwork.

The truth is, there are a lot of con artists out there good enough to take in even honest, intelligent people. In fact, honest people with good intentions can be some of the easiest marks when approached as you were. (Nice lady, access 'behind the curtain', successful trial...)

Bernie Madoff made chumps of even some pretty seasoned investors.

One of my wife's cousins is married to a police detective. He says that in order to be a good detective, you also have to have the makings of a good crook.

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mkmossop 13 years ago

Originally Posted by sam770

here is an important link that explains why using adsense is actually a way to loose money
Why I Will Never Use Adsense on a Blog Again

Interesting that this guy has AdSense on the blog post, lol.
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  The person who wrote that blog post was a guest blogger. He has nothing to do with that blog or the adsense ads that appear on that blog.
  
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  Interesting that this guy has AdSense on the blog post, lol.
  
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Coast2Coast

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AFI

For the last time, I believed them when they said it wasn't against Google's TOS. I was in direct communication with the program's owner behind the scenes and she was a nice girl and there's more to it than what it looks like on the surface.

Yes I gave them a testimonial because the system DOES work, but obviously they are scammers and put one over on me. I've only been doing this since September. I don't know anything about Internet Marketing yet. I believe they even picked me because I'm a newbie. They picked the other guy he's new too.

But in the "Man am I an idiot thread" you had said

I know what cybersquatting is. I've known for 10 years what it is, I'm not a newbie.

Confusing.

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AFI

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Coast2Coast

But in the "Man am I an idiot thread" you had said

Confusing.

Because I have been an adult webmaster since 1999. I've only been doing this "mainstream" internet marketing since September. Any reason you are keeping track of my posts? :rolleyes:

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Coast2Coast

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AFI

Because I have been an adult webmaster since 1999. I've only been doing this "mainstream" internet marketing since September. Any reason you are keeping track of my posts? :rolleyes:

lol I recalled the petercriss domain thread pretty vividly is all as I'd posted there as 'ReignBird' (but lost that account apparently when this site upgraded or something & the password kept failing).

Good luck with your mainstream mktg endeavors, so much to learn, and constantly relearn, at times.

I'm pretty new myself and one thing I'd learned pretty quickly was carrying lessons in due diligence picked up offline to the online sphere, including asking around/Googling for others' input before I put my money down, saved me a few headaches as well as more than a few bucks.

(Also btw Cross-checking posters' history when something rings an odd bell is hardly something I invented on these forums and is quite common on a number of non-IM forums I frequent.)

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by kindsvater

It's not that you were lied to. It's that you were looking to score "Massive Income With Adsense - No Work Involved". From Google's perspective, why should they reopen your account?

Because I was told that it wasn't against their TOS.

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Jilawatan

13 years ago

I was making easily $800 USD per month from adsense. They paid me constantly for 2 months. But in the 3rd month, the bloody and idiot Google banned my account at the time of payment and told me that my account is a significant risk ?? What I assume that Google can't afford to pay much individuals. If your account is a business account then may be these problems will not occur but most of this happened with individuals.

But that is also true that no other ad network can pay like a Google.

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Martin Luxton 13 years ago

Jennifer,

I had my Adsense account closed a couple of years back because somebody click-bombed one of my sites.

I sent Google copies of my stats showing the relevant URLs. I also wrote a REALLY snotty email asking why they closed my account when there were all those crappy MFA sites and scraped autoblogs out there (my site was all original content).

Well, I got my account back but they kept the money. Interestingly, as one person has mentioned, it happened just before I was due my first payout

The lesson I took from this is that I'm not really interested in Adsense as a business model because it's too easy to have it taken away from you.

It's also why I'm puzzled by all these people currently going on about relocating to a state where they can continue to be Amazon affiliates (re: Illinois internet tax).

You're going to go to all that trouble and expense just to stay an affiliate for a programme that can close you down overnight or slowly squeeze the life out of you (like eBay is doing to its affiliates)?

Not wise.

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flavius333

13 years ago

I've also had my account banned without prior notification - for copyright issues.
If I would have been notified and given the 24 hours to delete the copied content (poetry) I would have done it without regrets..

I tried back and forth to explain everything.. but I only got negative responses.

however, to you people - this info may come pretty handy - because I contacted them and got replies (in my e-mail specified) to my requests by both of these communicating methods:

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Send the written communication to the following address:

Google, Inc.
Attn: AdSense Support, DMCA Complaints
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043

OR fax to:

(650) 618-8507
Attn: AdSense Support, DMCA complaints
If you have legal questions about this notification, you should retain
your own legal counsel. If you have any other questions about this
notification, please let us know.
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JohnMcCabe 13 years ago

Jennifer, I'd kiss this one goodbye. I've heard rumors of people getting accounts restored, but never when an actual TOS violation took place.

In my case, I crossed the wrong people and got click-bombed into oblivion. I went through the appeals process, even got an email back from a real human eventually.

The bottom line was that, for whatever reason, my account represented a risk to the advertisers and would remain suspended.

If you really want Adsense, open an account in your spouse's name and put it on a different site, preferably also in your spouse's name.
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WD Mino

13 years ago

I am just curious wouldn't opening an account under a different name still be in violation?
Isn't the ip address of the account registered along with the info/email/name etc?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by WD Mino

I am just curious wouldn't opening an account under a different name still be in violation?
Isn't the ip address of the account registered along with the info/email/name etc?

-Will

Yes it would, and you could get away with it for a while but they always check before they pay you, and the fist thing they do is a whois check so if you want to get a new account, get your friend to open it for you and split the cash

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NerdGary

13 years ago

Lets face it... Google does not want its adsense users to make significant money...
They feel if the Advertiser is paying THEM... why should they split it?

I stopped Adsense few years back.

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Ken Durham

13 years ago

An expensive lesson about taking a marketers word as gold, never do it. Read the fine print and do the research. It sucks you lost your account, but when it comes to Google, leave your name off of anything to do with them that doesn't resemble a praise to their service. They are everywhere and there is always a chance one of their people may read your post, testimonial, etc. Especially when they're investigating a questionable website.

Call yourself teacher on this one for helping others see the risk, and then move up to CPA.

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romka123

13 years ago

Hi every one
It is very interesting topics we all talking here

I just preparing my new website I was thinking to put adsence , but from what I am reading here it makes me worry.
It any other way to make money on your website? I am very new in this business any advise will help and thanks

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JohnMcCabe

13 years ago

Originally Posted by NerdGary

Lets face it... Google does not want its adsense users to make significant money...
They feel if the Advertiser is paying THEM... why should they split it?

I stopped Adsense few years back.

Gary, I think your tinfoil hat may be a bit tight...

When Google suspends an Adsense account, they don't keep the money. They return it to the advertisers affected by the account in question.

And yes, they do refund their cut, too.

So there's nothing to split.

[RANT - not aimed at Gary personally]

This whole "it's a conspiracy against IMers" thing is spinning out of control. Every time a big company takes an action, like suspending an account due to TOS violations (inadvertent or not), somebody starts in with "they just want us to do the work so they can suspend us and keep the money."

Google is a multi-billion dollar company. Do you really think gypping you out of a few hundred, or even a few thousand, is going to make that big a difference at the next stockholders meeting?

GOOG is a publicly-traded company with enemies of it's own. Do you really think they would open themselves up to a MicroSoft-type witch hunt over a few thousand dollars?

Just because Google, or WalMart or ClickBank, or eBay or PayPal or (fill in the blank) won't let you take a shortcut you found in a PDF somewhere, doesn't mean they are out to get you, or IMer's, or anyone else...

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ScrapeBoss

13 years ago

Google does not forgive when an account is banned. Think of getting another one.

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Devid Farah 13 years ago

Hi Jennifer,

Sadly your chances of getting an account back are zero.

There will be people on here who will PM you offering you a guaranteed account, most often as not they are from India, and there in is the reason why to apply for adsense in India your site has to have been up and running for six months.

This is due to Google being hit by massive adsense fraud from India.

Sad but true.
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Eager2SEO

13 years ago

The service in question here reminds me of the Indian "Click Farms" that existed a decade ago when Adsense first came out.

They may use proxies, bots, etc. but google can easily see patterns between different adsense accounts from a service like this. Would the same IP be clicking on an ad for car parts, baby supplies, model railroads and tibetan rugs in the span of a minute? You get the idea.

I heard that if you pass a certain threshold of earnings (say $100/mo) your traffic goes under the microscope.

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L41db4ck

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AFI

I signed up for this program called EasyPPCMoney and they said their program was above board and complied with AdSense TOS. Well apparently they lied to me and scammed me out of my money because I got my AdSense account banned

Hmm, just wondering. Did G specifically say you got banned for using that service?

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AFI 13 years ago

Originally Posted by L41db4ck

Hmm, just wondering. Did G specifically say you got banned for using that service?

Yes. They said it was due to invalid click activity on the domain I was using them on.
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Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by AFI

I signed up for this program called EasyPPCMoney and they said their program was above board and complied with AdSense TOS. Well apparently they lied to me and scammed me out of my money because I got my AdSense account banned and took my subscription fee. But I'm not here to rag on them, I'm here to ask:

Does anyone ever win the appeal and get their accounts back? Does anyone know someone personally at Google that I could speak with? Back in the day I used to have the personal information of a Google support guy that I used to talk with about my AdSense account but I see they no longer give personal support.

Any help would be great.

If I had to guess, the system involved click fraud. Google really doesn't like that. You pretty much have no shot of getting that account back. Your best bet is to apply for a new account, but you have to make sure they can't tie the new account to you in any way. That means a different name, address, IP address, etc. If accepted, you won't be able to use adsense on the sites you used with the banned account. Also, if you slip up and they learn this new account is yours, they will close the new account too, and any earnings in the account at the time will be forfeit, because you are breaking their terms of service by opening a new account.

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mrmars

13 years ago

Originally Posted by NuZu

I can get you a NEW adsense account up and running in approx. 72 hours
guaranteed. PM me for details Forget the old one, chances of getting it back are slim. Google customer service for adsense is simply not available, but I can help

I cannot Private message you, is there another way to contact you?

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gittar1122

13 years ago

Have you submitted your request for enabling your account?

I know few persons, their adsense disabled due to certain reasons but after discussion at adsense forums about problem, their adsense was enabled.

Any way to get quick resolution / re-enabling of adserving? - AdSense Help

Serving of ads disabled to one of my domains after changes made and 2 clarification emails sent - AdSense Help

So you have to go to adsense forum to get your adsense back. There you can find many Google employees.

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ellbatad

13 years ago

Try to open new adsense account with different pc, IP address, bank account, new address, new website, and new email account.

It works for me.

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erazer 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ellbatad

Try to open new adsense account with different pc, IP address, bank account, new address, new website, and new email account.

It works for me.

Just curious--how did you do the new address? Move?
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- DynoMutt 13 years ago
  
  Sorry to hear you lost your AdSense account.
  
  After reading many threads about people losing their AdSense account, I've decided to change my mindset about Adsense. At first, I thought I could just solely rely on the income earned from AdSense. You know, make a couple of sites, rank them, and sit back and reap the rewards. But with the instability of Adsense, I need a stronger approach to IM.
  
  I've decided to use whatever income I can gain from AdSense and use it for investment purposes to open my own e-commerce site.
  
  I see some of the responses to inquiries about what to do when you lose your AdSense account, and I just don't think it's in me to grovel, obtain a new back account, and submit a new identity just to be in Google's goodstanding.
  
  Is that being your own boss in Internet Marketing? I don't think so.
  
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- markowe 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by erazer
  
  Just curious--how did you do the new address? Move?
  
  Yep, to get a new Adsense account you have to move house, get plastic surgery and change your identity. You WANT that Adsense account, don't you?!
  
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- JunkYour925 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by erazer
  
  Just curious--how did you do the new address? Move?
  
  simple
  
  open up a Private mail box at one of those mail joints
  
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  marco005 13 years ago
  
  Hello people,
  
  Yes there is ONE chance when you have lost you adsense account.
  
  Do formation an offshore limited company, also anonymous, with trustees.
  
  So there you have an new company name, new bank account and trustees-new names.
  So google dont know who is the real owner of the company.
  Thats would be not problem with trustees.
  
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h_al

13 years ago

No, you won't get it back. Just open a new one.

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JazzyB

13 years ago

There is one way to get your account back.
If you are sure you are not involved in any click fraud or any other policy violation you go ahead and create a thread at adsense official forum. Try to get attention of a 'top contributor' there. I hear the 'top contributors' there have the power to flag threads which they feel need attention of the staff of google. Once flagged somebody from google will have a look at you account and they will restore it if your sites are good enough and there are no policy violations.
But don't bother trying if your account was suspended for click fraud. It won't be restored no matter what.

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subashchandrapoudel

13 years ago

I think there is no point in talking to a company which cannot give personal support for it's members which makes money for it!
Just leave adsense!
There are many other better ways to make money.

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Carl Brown

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AFI

I signed up for this program called EasyPPCMoney and they said their program was above board and complied with AdSense TOS. Well apparently they lied to me and scammed me out of my money because I got my AdSense account banned and took my subscription fee. But I'm not here to rag on them, I'm here to ask:

Does anyone ever win the appeal and get their accounts back? Does anyone know someone personally at Google that I could speak with? Back in the day I used to have the personal information of a Google support guy that I used to talk with about my AdSense account but I see they no longer give personal support.

Any help would be great.

Let us know if you're able to open another account. I've often wondered if it's possible as long as you completely change EVERYTHING (ISP, IP Home address, phone, name etc). Don't believe those who tell you google will shut you down because they have to send you a check. That's NONSENSE. I don't make a lot, but my income has increased slowly but steadily every year. I am now one of the fortunate ones who earns a modest income 100% from adsense. They WANT you to succeed, but they don't seem very tolerant of "games." I once (in the early years) created a lot of blogspot blogs pointing to my websites, and they were OBVIOUS spam blogs. My account was suspended. I contacted them and they were very decent about it and told me the problem. I deleted all the blogs and started over. I try to do EVERYTHING I do within their TOS.

Adsense has given me the freedom to leave a job I HATED. I hope you can get your account back or open a new one. Let us know what happens

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JackPowers

13 years ago

You should have known better, sorry.

Don't cut corners like that, plan for the long term, you'll get there eventually.

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AFI

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JackPowers

You should have known better, sorry.

Don't cut corners like that, plan for the long term, you'll get there eventually.

As I said......I was in very close contact with the program owner and she was a very nice lady. I did a BETA test from them and she swore up and down there was no arbitrage or against Google TOS. The only thing I should have known is to not trust people at their word. She really scammed me and I thought I had better first impressions of people than that. It's not like I just signed up for this program blindly, I was behind the scenes and helped them in their BETA trials and even gave them a testimonial.

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JackPowers

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AFI

As I said......I was in very close contact with the program owner and she was a very nice lady. I did a BETA test from them and she swore up and down there was no arbitrage or against Google TOS. The only thing I should have known is to not trust people at their word. She really scammed me and I thought I had better first impressions of people than that. It's not like I just signed up for this program blindly, I was behind the scenes and helped them in their BETA trials and even gave them a testimonial.

Consider this a blessing then. Adsense is really not a great way to monetize websites. With Adsense there's no real need to learn how to convert traffic or interact with visitors.

CPA + product physical products have a lot higher CPC. I had on site paying 0.15$ average CPC with Adsense and now pay 1.5$ average CPC after I switched to affiliate.

Sucks you lost your account, make a new one with a friends address, but I suggest you stop looking for magic bullets. Speaking from personal experience. Do it right.

Shoot me a PM if you want some feedback.

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Dani16

13 years ago

Reinstating the account is a horse horn

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cooler1

13 years ago

Because of this filthy scam it means i can't even sell my websites now unless i tell the potential buyers they won't be able to use Adsense on it as all site's associated with a banned account cannot be used with adsense.

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paulgl

13 years ago

Originally Posted by cooler1

Because of this filthy scam it means i can't even sell my websites now unless i tell the potential buyers they won't be able to use Adsense on it as all site's associated with a banned account cannot be used with adsense.

What internet law says you MUST use adsense?

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webguru3287

13 years ago

Always have multiple accounts and spread the content across.. That is my advice

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MrMatts

13 years ago

standard google practice... Random Banning...

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Trinidad

13 years ago

I dont want to hijact the thread but as i know and heard from other's people problem, i see that google is so bad with banning accounts without reason. Frankly, my accounts last for 2 years so far and got no problem at all. I even use 2 accounts with one pc and never got any warning or banning but what i dont suprise is each of my account earned only $20 so far

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rockfuse

13 years ago

are you asking if you are ever going to get paid out for adsense once it is banned ? the answer is positively not, even if they were to reinstate you they would never pay you for any of your past earnings.

any make money quick things is dead for google, any suspicious activity , any high click throughs , etc ,etc will always get you banned.

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kld

13 years ago

I got banned from Adsense about 5 months ago. I appealed and lost. I fretted all day about how I might be able to open a new account in my husband's name on his computer. Then it hit me that it was going to be a real pain to keep up with it all. I knew I'd probably just get banned again, anyway, because I'd probably slip up somewhere. So, I gave up.

Turns out, I found plenty of other ways to monetize and I'm not always looking over my shoulder.

Learn from the bumps in the road and get better.

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JunkYour925

13 years ago

Originally Posted by kld

I got banned from Adsense about 5 months ago. I appealed and lost. I fretted all day about how I might be able to open a new account in my husband's name on his computer. Then it hit me that it was going to be a real pain to keep up with it all. I knew I'd probably just get banned again, anyway, because I'd probably slip up somewhere. So, I gave up.

Turns out, I found plenty of other ways to monetize and I'm not always looking over my shoulder.

Learn from the bumps in the road and get better.

I agree and follow that philosophy. By doing so I found even better advertising partners like Kontera etc. Its all good.

But I do have a question. If I were to reapply for a new acct usiing all new info would I still be able to run ads on the sites that were running under the old adsense acct that were wrongfully accused of "invalid clicks"?

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JaySchmidt

13 years ago

Adsense advertisers don't want their ads showing up on crappy 'niche' sites full of $5 articles.

If advertisers wanted that sort of traffic, they'd pay their own $5 writers to create web pages for them. This would cut the middleman Google out of things altogether, and save money in the long run.

The 'niche' adsense site mania was fueled by this forum (and some others). Countless folks were throwing up 15-page sites full of $5 articles.

This trend is coming to a tragic end as Google seems to have stepped up the number of bannings (judging by all the complaints I hear in private forums and in the big forums like this one). Now, they're apparently banning not just for blatant click fraud, but for the appearance of impropriety. If you're currently following the TOS, but you give the impression that you're going to be a problem in the future, they'll cut you loose without a backward glance.

Here's an example: there are plenty of folks who chant the mantra that you can't damage your sites by spamming backlinks. After all (they say), what's to stop your competitors from spamming links to your site just to cause problems? Well, maybe you won't hurt your SERP ranking by doing your scrapebox shenanigans, but watch and see what happens to your adsense account once it becomes apparent that you're artificially altering your SERPs by spamming links. TOS violations come in all manner of variations and it takes imagination to see that many of the things you do online might eventually come to the notice of the automated adsense ban hammer.

Here's a tip: circumstantial evidence is still evidence.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by JaySchmidt

Adsense advertisers don't want their ads showing up on crappy 'niche' sites full of $5 articles.

If advertisers wanted that sort of traffic, they'd pay their own $5 writers to create web pages for them. This would cut the middleman Google out of things altogether, and save money in the long run.

Jay, I have to disagree with you a bit here.

Adsense advertisers, more accurately Adwords advertisers using the content network, probably don't care where their ads run as long as they do so profitably.

Which is why I qualified my disagreement. If that "niche site full of $5 articles" draws qualified prospects and brings them to the advertiser's site at an acceptable cost, it's all good.

If a so-called authority site runs the ads, and they don't generate profitable traffic, who cares that it's an "authority site"?

It's all about EPC...

As for your second statement, that makes no sense to me at all. Why would someone who could place ads on someone's site for pennies per click go through the hassle of setting up their own sites, paying writers, etc.? There's no scale in that.

If I could know that I'd make $2-$4 for every $1 I spent on clicks from any site on the content network, I'd rip the pocket off my jeans getting my wallet out of my pocket.

Where you make some sense is, very few of those "crappy 'niche' sites filled with $5 articles" can perform like that.

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markowe

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Jay, I have to disagree with you a bit here.

Adsense advertisers, more accurately Adwords advertisers using the content network, probably don't care where their ads run as long as they do so profitably.

Agreed - if I am ranking on page one with an EMD and for the advertiser's keywords then surely they are going to want to see their ads on that site, since the traffic is very targeted. Whether Google sees it the same way is another matter... I have had a site like that slapped recently (though no Adsense ban. and I hope it stays that way!) so am wondering...

I think we'd be hearing a lot more about the Xfactor crowd getting bans otherwise. The fact is Xfactor sites are still EVERYWHERE (last time I looked

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JaySchmidt 13 years ago

Yes, your points are all valid.

Adsense works for advertisers and for publishers.

But I think it would work better if there were fewer tiny adsense sites.

Even if it is 'profitable', it's still annoying and costly to advertisers when their ads show up on micro-niche sites. Lots of clicks come from people who click just to get off the site. Profits rise when those sorts of clicks get eliminated.

Google smart prices publishers who generate too many of those worthless clicks. But that takes time. And in the meanwhile advertisers just have to grind their teeth and take it.

Either that, or they have to pick and choose which sites they want thier adsense ads to show up on. And that sort of does away with whole point of paying Google to manage the ads in the 1st place.

This speculation brings me back to my main point. That is: lots of folks who are heavily into aggressive, gray micro-niche stuff say that Google is beginning to ban sites for no reason listed in the TOS.

In some of the more heavily-focused, private IM forums, people who make 'micro niche' adsense sites and promote them aggressively are convinced that Google has stepped up its banning against people who don't necessarily break the TOS, but give off signals that they might be a problem.

If it's true that Google is pulling back the reins on adsense sites, then I can only conclude that it's because of complaints from the advertisers.
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Aki Fagno

13 years ago

I am really sorry to hear that. But I think you are just one of those who have that same experience. That's really disappointing.

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JunkYour925

13 years ago

Do publishers write their own content? Nope

Do advertisers pay to run their ads in the publishers magazines? Yep

Then what is the difference?

Why are we not seeing advertisers who could save a buck by writing their own targeted content niche sites actually doing just that - writing their own targeted content niche sites for their own advertising benefit?

Hmmmmm

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JaySchmidt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JunkYour925

Do publishers write their own content? Nope

Do advertisers pay to run their ads in the publishers magazines? Yep

Then what is the difference?

Why are we not seeing advertisers who could save a buck by writing their own targeted content niche sites actually doing just that - writing their own targeted content niche sites for their own advertising benefit?

Hmmmmm

You use the phrase 'targeted content niche site' like it's something valuable and desireable.

The fact of the matter is, without an exact match domain, those sites are virtually worthless.

It would be more accurate to call those sites 'exact match domain sites'. Because, after all, that's all they are.

The only way to make money from a tiny 'targeted' site that isn't an EMD is to spam. That is, unless you're happy making a dollar a day.

So, despite the hundreds of threads and thousands of posts here and elsewhere about 'niche sites', all it really boils down to is having an EMD. Or, having some xrummer expert blast your site with countless spam links.

Exact match domains have worth only as long as Google values them.

Advertisers don't want their ads showing up on those sites. And Google is responsive to its advertisers.

Big G can do one of two things: devalue exact match domains, or ban the 'niche' adsense folks.

Apparently, it's easier in the short term to ban than it is to rework the algorithm.

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- Kay King 13 years ago
  
  The 'niche' adsense site mania was fueled by this forum (and some others). Countless folks were throwing up 15-page sites full of $5 articles.
  
  You use the phrase 'targeted content niche site' like it's something valuable and desireable.
  
  Do publishers write their own content? Nope
  
  There's another side, though, that is mentioned on the WF but usually ignored because it's not flashy or exciting.
  
  There are "niche sites" where content IS written by the site owner - who actually knows something about the niche. There is info, tools, instructions, resources - and REAL information on those sites. They grow to hundreds and even thousands of pages and they make good money with adsense.
  
  Those site owners aren't trying to get 10k "forum profile" links and don't join programs that promise "more clicks". They don't use tricks because they know how valuable their VRE is over time.
  
  Too often, this type of niche site gets ignored because they take time to build and to position and they take work. At the moment, these are called "authority sites" by some people - because there are new IM products about them.
  
  Even after you explain what they are - some doofus will ask "how can I build an authority site quickly" so clearly the message isn't getting through.
  
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  That's right, and the site owners study the traffic that came to their site and what keywords were used and like good businessmen and PUBLISHERS they either write more content themselves (not likely once the site grows large) for those keywrds or outsource the task of writing good quality articles for those topics. More content, more kywrds and more traffic. Its all good for the visitors readers and advertisers b/c those clicks are not wasted clicks.
  
  I agree that no sites should be junkie or have ridiculous amounts of backlinks straight to their site in an attempt to rank like dopey JC Penney did. Ironically most of the time that volume of backlinks is totally unnecessary.
  
  The real problem all boils down to what most people lack when it comes to off-page SEO ... common sense.
  
  Like an acorn that grows into an oak tree a small niche site will grow into an authority site...over time. To penalize and rub out the existence of each and every acorn before it has a chance to grow into a large oak tree would mean the world would never have any oak trees. I doubt very much that Google is that Draconian in its anti-spam campaign...or is it? :p
  
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  Ain't that the truth!
  
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13 years ago

Move on....!
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cheekugames

13 years ago

I am afraid its going to be very difficult to win appeals , above all else google TOS is very strict about clicks from invalid and unnatural sources, you can win appeals on other grounds but not on this one..but any ways good luck

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13 years ago

Honestly you will not get a reply Here is why

I once phoned GOOGLE directly to ask about their Google Affiliate Network and the lady who worked at Google didnt even know what Google Affiliate network was LOL..

They are idiots that work there

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timpears

13 years ago

With Google's reputation what it is, I wouldn't spend any time fretting over your lost account, and just move on. Create a new entity and a suite number at your residence or where ever you have your business located. Build a new web site, and make sure it is completely in compliance with AdSense TOS, and apply in the name of your new entity.

You will need a new bank account for your new entity and you are set to go. Problem solved.

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marco005

13 years ago

Hello,

sorry to hear this.
Im a newbie and want to make good money in the internet,so with adsense too.

So i think its better; "Not put all your eggs in one bakes" so the big money gurus alsways said.

Im hurry, that is reall(?) that small internet publishers lost their adsense account.
I think, google itselfs not ban small mini sites, the advertisers, competitors do that.

They click the button; This is an dangerous website, please report it to google.

But, Matt Cutts hisself, i named it the Mad Katz (katz the german word for cat) hehe,
Yes, the MAD KATZ not say you the truth about google, why? They work for them....

Okay lets go look in the future, i think its better, not only put adsense on my website, i put affiliate or amazon too.

So when i lost my adsense account (i not hope it) so i make money with amazon or other affiliate products to my topic niche.

Or put adsense, chitika and amazon or other affiliates on my site, so i think google will me not ban.
Why? Google can see, that i make money on other channels, it shows them;
"Hey its equal, so you ban me, i make money with other partners".......

Please, thats my theory, thats not a guarantee.

with best wishes
marco005

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