What 'offsite SEO' do you guys do?

J.M.Wilson

13 years ago

To me, off page SEO boils down to getting relevant backlinks from websites that are ranked higher than mine. (sites ranked lower are fine too, i just go for sites ranked higher!)

Ways to get them? Blog commenting and blog posts on top niche blogs, ezine articles submissions, relevant top ranking niche forums are just a few.

You can also try a press release, social networking sites and places like Squidoo, Twitter etc...

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AFI

13 years ago

I outsource backlinks to social bookmarking and profile links. I do article marketing of my own. I make hubs of my own. I make video articles of my own.

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Giani

13 years ago

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Fernando Veloso 13 years ago

OP,

Beside outsourcing, definitely do your own stuff, develop your own ground base to create incontent backlinks.

Originally Posted by Giani

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Way to go, spamming the forums with that URL. :rolleyes:
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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Some "general principles" (albeit short on specific detail) ...

Good backlinks:
(i) Authority sites
(ii) Other context-relevant sites with targeted traffic
(iii) Context-relevant pages on non-context-relevant sites with high traffic
(iv) High-PR pages
(v) Pages with few backlinks
(vi) Squidoo, HubPages, Yahoo Answers, "web 2.0" pages
(vii) Social bookmarking
(viii) Forum sig-file backlinks (not the same as forum profile backlinks) in relevant forums

Less good backlinks:
(i) Links on PR-0 pages of sites which happen to have a higher-PR home page (this applies to most article directory backlinks)
(ii) Reciprocal backlinks (site A links to site B and site B links to site A)
(iii) Other non-context-relevant backlinks
(iv) Most backlinks which can be bought in a package comprising a large number of backlinks for a small amount of money

Almost useless backlinks:
(i) "Forum profiles" in defunct/semi-defunct forums probably not indexed very often (or at all)
(ii) Obscure url directories, especially Asian/African ones
(iii) Pages with hundreds of backlinks (the value to your site of the backlink is in inverse proportion, albeit not linearly, to the number of links on the page containing the link)

Other points to remember/"urban myths":
(i) There are no "penalties against your site" for getting too many backlinks too quickly
(ii) .edu backlinks are not worth any more because they're ".edu": the ones which are also "authority sites" can be hugely valuable, but a link on a students' forum/chat page of a site that just happens to be an .edu link isn't worth anything extra at all.

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AnniePot

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Some "general principles" (albeit short on specific detail) ...

Good backlinks:
(i) Authority sites
(ii) Other context-relevant sites with targeted traffic
(iii) Context-relevant pages on non-context-relevant sites with high traffic
(iv) High-PR pages
(v) Pages with few backlinks
(vi) Squidoo, HubPages, Yahoo Answers, "web 2.0" pages
(vii) Social bookmarking
(viii) Forum sig-file backlinks (not the same as forum profile backlinks) in relevant forums

I agree 100%

Unfortunately, the item you list above that I have the most difficulty with is Yahoo Answers. I've come to the conclusion that your success with them depends very much on the niche you are providing answers for.

I have never spammed Yahoo Answers, always provided detailed, useful responses never containing a url in the body of the answer, yet with some niches I'm instantly reported as a spammer and my account is canceled.

I think those doing the reporting are other marketers who are protecting their territory and prevent anyone else from gaining a foothold.

In other niches I have absolutely no problem with my answers.

I think that anyone using Yahoo Answers needs to set up multiple accounts so that they are not effected when one get canceled.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by AnniePot

Unfortunately, the item you list above that I have the most difficulty with is Yahoo Answers. I've come to the conclusion that your success with them depends very much on the niche you are providing answers for.

Thanks, Annie: yes, probably so.

(My opinion is that so many people use Yahoo Answers unwisely and/or in breach of the terms of service, and at the same time so many people who haven't done so have "got into trouble" anyway that it's actually quite difficult to try to learn much at all from others' experiences there).

I've noticed "level 2 accounts" there for sale on Fiverr.com. I haven't looked into this at all, but am guessing that that probably contravenes Yahoo's terms of service.

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freeair

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Some "general principles" (albeit short on specific detail) ...

Good backlinks:
(i) Authority sites
(ii) Other context-relevant sites with targeted traffic
(iii) Context-relevant pages on non-context-relevant sites with high traffic
(iv) High-PR pages
(v) Pages with few backlinks
(vi) Squidoo, HubPages, Yahoo Answers, "web 2.0" pages
(vii) Social bookmarking
(viii) Forum sig-file backlinks (not the same as forum profile backlinks) in relevant forums

Great!

In addition to that, I am also creating FB Fan Page to promote my site, although this won't give you a backlinks.

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mandark

13 years ago

There are no "penalties against your site" for getting too many backlinks too quickly

I have heard differently from many sources - that Google will penalize you for "unnatural" backlink growth. Can someone confirm this?

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Sphinx

13 years ago

I have a great success with High PR site Profile linking. The idea is nothing new, but register a member with the forum, and add the URL with your anchor text (keyword you are targeting) in your profile section, signature...

You can easily outsourse this work, or you can built them your own. Google and find the forum you need to create profile, it doesn't matter much on whether the forum is related to your topic, so long you can put anchor text with your targeted keyword in the signature will be good enough.

Things to take note:

1. Make sure the profile is publicly viewable, do not need to login in order to view the profile page.
2. Make sure it's Do Follow, you can use Firefox plugin SearchStatus
3. Check the home page Page rank, PR3 & above will be good...

Happy backlinking...

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jhonsean

13 years ago

article submission is effective because great content plays an important role in ranking your site in google.

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Michael Curran Smith 13 years ago

I think Alexa covered a lot of the bases for offpage, but don't forget about onpage. I can get 1st page rankings in Google with just onpage if the keywords aren't that competitive.

A lot of people miss the boat there. If your onpage sucks and you try to enter a competitive marketplace, forget about it.

I could make a living off of just adjusting folks OPSEO. There's so much bad onpage out there. If only people knew.
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John Williamson

13 years ago

High-PR forum profile backlinks, contextual backlinks through article marketing, blog commenting, link wheels with Web 2.0 sites, social bookmarking, and RSS feed submission.

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dblacker 13 years ago

If this is a site that you are building for the long term then start to build a hub of web 2.0 content pointing to your website i.e

1) Create a Hubpages hub and write your first hub
2) Start a Youtube channel - (If you have no videos, create a playlist of other people's videos)
3) Create a Twitter Profile
4) Write a few ezine articles
5) Submit something related to your niche to EHOW.com

And wherever possible, start to network on the sites that allow you to follow / friend other relevant people in your niche (i.e. twitter, hubpages, youtube, etc)
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hillaryjohnson

13 years ago

After done with all onpage optimization activities, Offpage activities start with:

1. Directory Submission
2. Forum Posting
3. Blog Posting
4. Blog Commenting
5. Unique Article Posting
6. Social Bookmarking

And Social Media Marketing will also help you to generate backlinks.

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Jake Gray

13 years ago

I outsource my back links.

I prefer creating my videos, articles & hubpages myself. No point in outsourcing those. I have a specific way of doing them.

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navyseal

13 years ago

There are variety ways to do about offsite seo.

One that I like most is twitter and rss syndication.

I just use also 3rd party application and set the recurring...

quite often.

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MattSanti

13 years ago

Another off site SEO thing that most people never do is software directory submissions. You create a little piece of software, say a screensaver of something in your niche and submit it to all the different software directories. This lets you get backlinks as well. They necessarily won't be high pr, but if you are going for a term that is relatively competitive it can give you a decent boost. And worse case you are just increasing your link diversity.

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feliciayapsl

13 years ago

Do some backlink and write articles to submit to article directories.

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SEO Coach 13 years ago

Here is suggestion I didn't see in the thread, and this can be very powerful for both backlink building AND traffic generation...

start doing guest blog posts on popular blogs in your niche...

1. You get a powerful link back (possibly more depending on each bloggers "rules")
2, You get access to an audience hungry for your content
3. You might get new readers and possibly other back links
4. You've now made an important connection in your niche...the other blogger

It's win/win/win...those are hard to find!
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- Michael Curran Smith 13 years ago
  
  One other thing that I forgot to include about offpage SEO that it seems no one has mentioned, is that building just 1 tier of backlinks isn't going to cut it in a competitive niche!
  
  What do I mean? Backlink your backlinks, interlink your backlinks, and keep doing so outwards in rings (but do not close the wheels), do this for at least 3 tiers.
  
  Is it time consuming? Yes. It is a ton of work? Yes. Can you outsource it? Most definitely, but many of the services are garbage.
  
  Backlink your backlinks and your rankings will hold up and as we know, owning a few valuable #1 spots can be worth a year's salary for many people.
  
  Keep at it!
  
  Garage Mike
  
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