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aaron_nimocks

16 years ago

Domain extension has no value when it comes to ranking in search engines.

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Danny McConnell 16 years ago

This is a question that is going to get you answers all over the board. I have been watching with interest threads that address this issue whenever they pop up, and you are going to find people who have very strong opinions both ways.

Either extensions have no affect on ranking, or the only extensions that are any good are .com .net and .org.

Pick your poison and if you decide to go with it, let us know how it comes out.

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mojojuju 16 years ago

Originally Posted by aaron_nimocks

Domain extension has no value when it comes to ranking in search engines.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by NavySeals91

do you guys think this could rank well or will the .info hurt it?

It can surely rank well, as any domain can with appropriate SEO.

Domain extensions don't affect SEO at all, according to Google's Matt Cutts and others in the know.

It's perfectly true that there are fewer .info domains ranking at the top of the SERP's than .coms (though there are still plenty!), but that's simply because many people wrongly imagine they don't rank as easily, so they don't use them, from choice, when they want to rank well. The result, obviously enough, is that there are fewer of them ranking well.

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Giftys

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

It can surely rank well, as any domain can with appropriate SEO.

Domain extensions don't affect SEO at all, according to Google's Matt Cutts and others in the know.

It's perfectly true that there are fewer .info domains ranking at the top of the SERP's than .coms (though there are still plenty!), but that's simply because many people wrongly imagine they don't rank as easily, so they don't use them, from choice, when they want to rank well. The result, obviously enough, is that there are fewer of them ranking well.

Alexa, you've obviously been on here a long time and probably have the respect of many, but I can't help but disagree with you on this. I fully believe that if anyone anywhere was doing well with them, it would catch on like wildfire (especially in here!) and all of us would be all over it.

And Matt Cutts? Do you think for a minute that he's going to show all his cards?

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The Bad Blogger 16 years ago

well, I'm not sure if .info is a good extension, but... seriously I didn't like it and if any marketer selling products using that extension, I might be skeptical about it because... I will be asking why in the world he uses such a cheap extension for...
but if you want to challenge the search engine with that... by all means..
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- Paul Myers 16 years ago
  
  if any marketer selling products using that extension, I might be skeptical about it because... I will be asking why in the world he uses such a cheap extension for...
  
  Hmmm... Let's see... Maybe because what he's offering is...
  
  Wait for it...
  
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Alexa Smith

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Giftys

And Matt Cutts? Do you think for a minute that he's going to show all his cards?

Not necessarily, no ... but also I don't think he's going to tell a bare-faced lie repeatedly, in writing and on video, on his own blog and on Google's blog, and publicly invite people to quote him on it, on a matter which could be disproved if it weren't true. Do you really think that of him, Giftys?

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Richard Van 16 years ago

This comes up a lot but all the people that say you can't use .info with so much passion never seem to have tested it, which incidentally is what you're supposed to do, as opposed to just taking other peoples information as gospel or forming an untested personal opinion with no hard facts.

I've used .info domains very successfully and I've found it no harder to use than .com, .net or .org. It's what you do with it that counts.

Coming here and saying "You'll have to work harder with .info's" or "I disagree, otherwise everyone would be doing it" is no more than untested personal opinion.

Here's another point. If my keyword was "cat poo solutions" and the exact match .com was gone, what would happen if I had catpoosolutions.info and all you could get was e-catpoo-solutions.com

Now we have another angle to play with. There are a lot more exact keyword match domains for .info than .com
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Giftys

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Not necessarily, no ... but also I don't think he's going to tell a bare-faced lie repeatedly, in writing and on video, on his own blog and on Google's blog, and publicly invite people to quote him on it, on a matter which could be disproved if it weren't true. Do you really think that of him, Giftys?

You wanna take it to the mat Alexa Smith?

Seriously, I think people in business show what their able to show. Only Matt knows what that is. The rest of us can only make our best guess based on everything we see.

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scott g

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Giftys

Alexa, you've obviously been on here a long time and probably have the respect of many, but I can't help but disagree with you on this. I fully believe that if anyone anywhere was doing well with them, it would catch on like wildfire (especially in here!) and all of us would be all over it.

And Matt Cutts? Do you think for a minute that he's going to show all his cards?

I don't take into consideration anything Matt Cutts has to say. It's just as easy to rank a .info as it is to rank any other extension (except for maybe a foreign domain). Country extensions do come into play in terms of which Search Engine you're going to rank in!

I've ranked .info's .com's .org's & .net's with relative ease... Do your competition research properly... Do your On- and Off-Site Optimization properly... And you shouldn't have any problems...

If GOOGLE doesn't like .info's, then why in the world would they rank this site #1 for the search term "Google PageRank"???!??!?!?

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I see Paulgl and Macaw haven't commented on this one yet

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virs1989

16 years ago

Originally Posted by scott g

I don't take into consideration anything Matt Cutts has to say. It's just as easy to rank a .info as it is to rank any other extension (except for maybe a foreign domain). Country extensions do come into play in terms of which Search Engine you're going to rank in!

I've ranked .info's .com's .org's & .net's with relative ease... Do your competition research properly... Do your On- and Off-Site Optimization properly... And you shouldn't have any problems...

If GOOGLE doesn't like .info's, then why in the world would they rank this site #1 for the search term "Google PageRank"???!??!?!?

CHEERS!

I see Paulgl and Macaw haven't commented on this one yet

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I definitely agree with you scott. I have many .com and .info domains and they are fairly doing well. It depends on how you beat your competitors to get high SERPs..

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scott g 16 years ago

HEARSAY! A lot of people hear stuff and say stuff:
"Oh Google doesn't like .info's"
"there were alot of .info sites that were spam so they stopped getting ranked in the SERPs"
"they're cheap so they don't rank"
"my friend had a .info and couldn't get it to rank."

My personal favorite:
"I can rank .com's .org's .net's but not .info's - so .info's don't rank!"

LMFAO! No...! You probably went into building your .info with deflated expectations, so you recieved your deflated results! Did you do your competition/keyword research PROPERLY? Did you properly optimize your site and build good, juicy backlinks?!

Too many factors come into play than the extension...

I could rank ABCDEFG.info for the search term "Smurfs Eat Babies"

You can do it if you think you can... And put your back into it!

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Marc Baldie

16 years ago

Wanted to try the .info too. Anyway thanks for the info Alexa. I think is the content and the backlinks that we have will determine the rankings in search engine. Is it right to say that?

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Giftys

16 years ago

I've got hundreds of domains. Upon all the ones that I rarely ever touch, the .info does the poorest. Combine that with the fact that you rarely see .info's placing (relative to the other tld's) and there's your answer.

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NavySeals91

16 years ago

Oooh. Sounds like a heated debate. I mainly got it because of the keywords affiliateproducts in the tld, or lld as the consensus seems to be here.

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feliciayapsl

16 years ago

I'm afraid you hv to do more work with the .info in order to get it rank. I have success with only the .com, .net, & .org domains.

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DeanJames

16 years ago

Here's an idea:

Type the keyword phrase you want to rank for in the search engines. Count how many .infos are in the top 10 or top 20. Do the same with .com .org and .net.

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Paul Myers 16 years ago

Dean,

Here's an idea:

Type the keyword phrase you want to rank for in the search engines. Count how many .infos are in the top 10 or top 20. Do the same with .com .org and .net.

Here's an idea:

Consider all the relevant facts. Like, just maybe, the time advantage that owners of the original 3 publicly available TLDs have had in developing their SERPs rankings. Or how many of those .info domains are still unregistered.

I don't really care which side of the argument is "right," but I hate to see thinking as sloppy as some in this thread passed off as authoritative advice.

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- aaron_nimocks 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Paul Myers
  
  I don't really care which side of the argument is "right," but I hate to see thinking as sloppy as some in this thread passed off as authoritative advice.
  
  Authoritative advice or just opinion?
  
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Giftys

16 years ago

Originally Posted by DeanJames

Here's an idea:

Type the keyword phrase you want to rank for in the search engines. Count how many .infos are in the top 10 or top 20. Do the same with .com .org and .net.

;-)

Precisely. The individual cases mentioned are so-called "exceptions to the rule" and as such they are not the "rule".

Either way, I respect and applaud those that have been able to make them work.

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Paul Myers 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Giftys

Precisely. The individual cases mentioned are so-called "exceptions to the rule" and as such they are not the "rule".

Please provide your statistical basis for this conclusion. If you present something as a fact, you should be prepared to defend it, especially when you've made it clear you're talking out your gifty.

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Paul Myers

16 years ago

Aaron,

That particular comment wasn't directed at you. You expressed an opinion as fact, but you didn't offer sloppy illogical reasoning to back it up.

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howinfo

16 years ago

I have few sites with .info extension and there as never been any problems with ranking them and why there should be. It all comes down to SEO, there are always people who have problems ranking one or another extension whatever it is, .info or .com or .net. If my domains rank well and lot of others and someone's .info do not rank that well, why is that then? Does Google likes one person better than other or is it the SEO they are applying? SEO is the only thing that I can think of that searchengines take in consideration when ranking a domain.

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Giftys

16 years ago

Paul, the fact is in DeanJames post which I quoted. Do a search for a keyword phrase and count how many .infos are in the top 10 or top 20. Do the same with .com .org and .net. That proves that the people that are having luck with .info's are the exception to the rule, not the rule.

I'm not debating that someone can't acquire good placement with a .info. I'm saying that, if it were so easy to get, you would be seeing a lot more of it. Therefore when considering the odds, you have a lot better chance having broad success with top level TLD's rather than spending a lot of precious time on .info's.

All of this said, I made a fortune off of a very specific niche that no one else would touch so I highly respect both sides of this debate.

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Paul Myers

16 years ago

Gifty,

Read my reply to his post. What you suggest does not yield "fact." You're making an assertion based on incomplete evidence, interpreted to support a pre-existing conclusion.

The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'

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Giftys

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Gifty,

Read my reply to his post. What you suggest does not yield "fact." You're making an assertion based on incomplete evidence, interpreted to support a pre-existing conclusion.

The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'

Paul

I did read your reply to his post. I presented 'data" and we've obviously come to two different conclusions. I respect your conclusion even if I don't agree but you seem intolerant of mine. I feel that my conclusion has the evidence to back it up and I feel that your rebuttal seems thin, if not slightly pompous.

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

...especially when you've made it clear you're talking out your gifty.

This reminds me of the political debates of recent. The one important thing for everyone to remember is that whether or not we agree on our approach to certain aspects of IM, it is important to stay respectful. It's a big world out there and there are many pathways to the same destination.

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Jeremy Barker

16 years ago

My personal opinion is that the .info would have no effect on your search engine ranking. Although I have not had a .info site before, I think it is in your efforts in marketing your site.

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Craig McPherson 16 years ago

Seems google love this .info and has so for over 4 years
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- scott g 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Craig McPherson
  
  Seems google love this .info and has so for over 4 years
  
  That's AWESOME Craig! Congrats on that! And perfect time to chime in LOL!
  
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NavySeals91

16 years ago

Thanks guys, its been helpful to "watch" the debate.

The reason why we don't see so many .info's ranking high is maybe because people tend not to truly develop .info's, and the top 3 TLDs have been around since the 90s. .info domains have been around for 8 years or so. (I think) Who knows, maybe in the future .info will become a major player in the TLD and SERP game.

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