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Before you fork out big money for seo...

by The Great Gordino
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Hi Folks,
Lots of seo solutions available, some it charging lots of money, monthly memberships, etc.

Before you fork out on this kind of stuff, bear in mind that you can get great results with no more than a domain name!

I decided to try some adsense sites - thought I'd use wordpress blogs and keyword matched domains.
For previous ones I set the sites up with adsense up and running from word go, but with the latest one I decided to get the site ranked, and *then* put the adsense on afterwards.

So I set up the blog with a keyword matched .net domain name.
Installed free plugins, all in one seo, google xml sitemap.

I put a static homepage, and 1 article.
Pinged that article.

That's it. Used a coupon for the domain on godaddy, so total cost about $6.
Yes, I did write the article myself, but it only has a few hundred words.

I will resubmit that article elswhere, and write a few more.

But - with just 1 article on the blog, I set it up yesterday, and today it was position 5 on page 1 google out of 477,000 results for the keyword.

I just looked now and it's sitting at number 1 page 1.

Not bad for a couple of hours work and $6.

Just thought I'd post it to remind people that there is not always a need to spend big money on the shiny hyped offers!

Gordon
#big #fork #money #seo
  • Profile picture of the author webapex
    That certainly makes the case for exact keyword domains, which is a strategy questioned by some. I'm sure we'd all appreciate further updates as to traffic and sales made from the keyword.
    You have to worry a bit when you find a search term so easy to rank for because there's no real commercial competition.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Great Gordino
      well, there is a full set of adwords on display, and I had intended it to be mainly monetised with that.
      However, was just looking at some sites I have just our ranked, one of them has an affiliate program paying 12% with some retail prices in the hundreds of dollars, so promising signs.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi The Great Gordino,

      Originally Posted by sweetgal View Post

      You are the world's greatest.
      Couldn't have put it better myself. But I'll give it a go -

      You are awesomeness personified and a match for any great white shark, even if they are armed with a yellow-handled lump hammer. Keep it up.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Great Gordino
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi The Great Gordino

        You are awesomeness personified and a match for any great white shark, even if they are armed with a yellow-handled lump hammer. Keep it up.

        Looks a bit like a great white, but it is a hammer head...

        I used to do that Great Gordino act, inspired by The Great Gonzo on a Muppet record. I could say you should read my book to find out more...
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by sweetgal View Post

      That is good work. Imagine spending thousands of dollars in SEO and getting nothing. If one loves what he does there are no heights one cannot reach. It doesn't matter on how experienced someone is but the end results talks for themselves. You are the world's greatest.
      With the proper keywords in the domain half the battle is won in many cases, as long as the search term isn't overly competitive. You just have to be a little less picky and not want to only get the .com TLD (in many cases the other TLDs are available)
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    Hey that's funny, this topic on warriorforum got ranked 5th for the keywords: what-the-christmas-rush-teaches-us-about-goal-achievement 27k results! and no backlinks .
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi daangertenaar,

      Originally Posted by daangertenaar View Post

      Hey that's funny, this topic on warriorforum got ranked 5th for the keywords: what-the-christmas-rush-teaches-us-about-goal-achievement 27k results! and no backlinks .
      It's ranking at one for 'big, fork, money, seo' via the tags and bigforkmoneyseo.com was available!
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  • Profile picture of the author TPFLegionaire
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    But - with just 1 article on the blog, I set it up yesterday, and today it was position 5 on page 1 google out of 477,000 results for the keyword.
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    However, that, in itself....means nothing, unless you tell me that the keyword you have so comprehensively dominated actually is being searched by a significant amount of surfers

    ....On exact match


    .............and you have good click through to your adds


    ......................................with good paying adsense keywords


    I wish you the best of success.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Great Gordino
      But - with just 1 article on the blog, I set it up yesterday, and today it was position 5 on page 1 google out of 477,000 results for the keyword.
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      However, that, in itself....means nothing, unless you tell me that the keyword you have so comprehensively dominated actually is being searched by a significant amount of surfers

      ....On exact match


      .............and you have good click through to your adds


      ......................................with good paying adsense keywords


      I wish you the best of success.[/QUOTE]



      I only wanted to set up the site to earn $5-10 a month, with a view to then keeping or flipping.
      It's a very specific keyword, with enough searches a month to go for a small earning site.
      Adwords is around $2.00 click
      I have today also signed up for an affiliate program via cj.com
      To be honest I'm more interested in the adsense, but adding the affiliate program was no headache.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by The Great Gordino View Post

        But - with just 1 article on the blog, I set it up yesterday, and today it was position 5 on page 1 google out of 477,000 results for the keyword.



        However, that, in itself....means nothing, unless you tell me that the keyword you have so comprehensively dominated actually is being searched by a significant amount of surfers

        ....On exact match


        .............and you have good click through to your adds


        ......................................with good paying adsense keywords

        I wish you the best of success.



        I only wanted to set up the site to earn $5-10 a month, with a view to then keeping or flipping.
        It's a very specific keyword, with enough searches a month to go for a small earning site.
        Adwords is around $2.00 click
        I have today also signed up for an affiliate program via cj.com
        To be honest I'm more interested in the adsense, but adding the affiliate program was no headache.
        Definitely focus on promoting some affiliate products to increase revenue. Adsense is really not going to generate much income, and you already know it - promoting an affiliate product should hopefully boost your earnings by a significant amount.
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    Originally Posted by The Great Gordino View Post

    Hi Folks,
    Lots of seo solutions available, some it charging lots of money, monthly memberships, etc.

    Before you fork out on this kind of stuff, bear in mind that you can get great results with no more than a domain name!

    Depends on the niche and the quality of your competition in the niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Great Gordino
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Depends on the niche and the quality of your competition in the niche.
      Absolutely.
      As soon as I saw 2 articles on page 1 when I was doing the research, I knew I could get in there and sweep up a load of that traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Theriot
    Well, to clarify, you didn't ONLY get results with the domain name, but with content, Wordpress, and various plugins. Yes these things are free, but they are not free to learn to use unless you place no dollar value on your time. Mind you, I happen to think it's worth the time and/or money to learn to use Wordpress. But still, your initial premise that ONLY the domain was required to get that ranking, is a little off.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Great Gordino
      Originally Posted by Colin Theriot View Post

      Well, to clarify, you didn't ONLY get results with the domain name, but with content, Wordpress, and various plugins. Yes these things are free, but they are not free to learn to use unless you place no dollar value on your time. Mind you, I happen to think it's worth the time and/or money to learn to use Wordpress. But still, your initial premise that ONLY the domain was required to get that ranking, is a little off.
      I do appreciate the value of time, that's why I said it took 2 hours of my time and $6.
      *That* was the premise, because those 2 hours would need to be spent on the site however I promoted it.
      My point was that I spent nothing on software or services for backlinks or submission or anything like that.
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    Originally Posted by The Great Gordino View Post

    Hi Folks,
    Lots of seo solutions available, some it charging lots of money, monthly memberships, etc.

    Before you fork out on this kind of stuff, bear in mind that you can get great results with no more than a domain name!

    I decided to try some adsense sites - thought I'd use wordpress blogs and keyword matched domains.
    For previous ones I set the sites up with adsense up and running from word go, but with the latest one I decided to get the site ranked, and *then* put the adsense on afterwards.

    So I set up the blog with a keyword matched .net domain name.
    Installed free plugins, all in one seo, google xml sitemap.

    I put a static homepage, and 1 article.
    Pinged that article.

    That's it. Used a coupon for the domain on godaddy, so total cost about $6.
    Yes, I did write the article myself, but it only has a few hundred words.

    I will resubmit that article elswhere, and write a few more.

    But - with just 1 article on the blog, I set it up yesterday, and today it was position 5 on page 1 google out of 477,000 results for the keyword.

    I just looked now and it's sitting at number 1 page 1.

    Not bad for a couple of hours work and $6.

    Just thought I'd post it to remind people that there is not always a need to spend big money on the shiny hyped offers!

    Gordon
    I agree with you. If you would keep the basics right, you do not have to put alot of efforts into it. You would need to maintain the proper keyword density and post original content. It would indexed easily and than in order to maintain the position on a first page, you may do the off-page optimization.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mission0ps
    I would also be very interested to know what Key Word are being targeted in your blog - I's a rock solid method you have outlined here - However it does all depends on what is being searched for!
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I am still amazed by how many people concentrate on that little number at the top of the Google search results that shows you how much 'competition' your keyword has. This does not show you how much competition there is. All it shows you is how many other web pages have that/those words on it.

    You could type in a keyword and see a number like 298,000,000. All that is telling you is there are that many other webpages in the Google index that also have that keyword on it. It doesn't automatically mean any of those other pages have optimized their page or are trying to even rank for that keyword.

    All 298 million other 'competing' pages may just have the keyword mentioned once in the content and nowhere in the url or the title tags. And they may all have no external links pointing to their page either (This is obviously very unlikely but I am trying to show you that this figure doesn't really mean as much as people think). Therefore with some easy optimization and link building you would have a pretty good chance of beating all those 298 million other pages - because there is no competition.

    So I could just as easily rank for a keyword that has 48 million competing pages as one that has 480 million competing pages. The number of competition isn't the important part - it's how well optimized those other pages are that is the key and will determine how well and how fast you will be able to rank.

    I might search a keyword and see it has only 1000 competing pages. Using most peoples logic this will be really easy for me to rank for. However what if the top 20 websites for that keyword all have the keyword in their domain, all have the keyword in their title tag, and all have the keyword properly scattered throughout their content. And on top of this they all have a heap of relevant external links pointing to those pages.

    Well, this is going to take a lot of work on my part to get anywhere near page 1. Even though the number is low the actual competition in this case is very strong.

    So stop worrying about that number at the top of the search results. I don't care if you are on page 1 for a term that has competition of 48,000,000 because at the end of the day that number does NOT represent the competition at all. You need to dig deeper than that to find out what your competition really is.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Great Gordino
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      I am still amazed by how many people concentrate on that little number at the top of the Google search results that shows you how much 'competition' your keyword has. This does not show you how much competition there is. All it shows you is how many other web pages have that/those words on it.

      So stop worrying about that number at the top of the search results. I don't care if you are on page 1 for a term that has competition of 48,000,000 because at the end of the day that number does NOT represent the competition at all. You need to dig deeper than that to find out what your competition really is.
      I didn't use the word competition once, simply results.
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      • Profile picture of the author Colin Theriot
        Originally Posted by The Great Gordino View Post

        I do appreciate the value of time, that's why I said it took 2 hours of my time and $6.
        *That* was the premise, because those 2 hours would need to be spent on the site however I promoted it.
        My point was that I spent nothing on software or services for backlinks or submission or anything like that.
        Yeah, but I was commenting on the part where you said this, mainly:

        Originally Posted by The Great Gordino View Post

        Before you fork out on this kind of stuff, bear in mind that you can get great results with no more than a domain name!
        You started the thread with that, and then also added about 5 other things that led to your success, not just the domain. I'm not knocking your result, just saying it wasn't JUST the domain name.
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        • Profile picture of the author The Great Gordino
          Originally Posted by Colin Theriot View Post

          Yeah, but I was commenting on the part where you said this, mainly:



          You started the thread with that, and then also added about 5 other things that led to your success, not just the domain. I'm not knocking your result, just saying it wasn't JUST the domain name.
          Ah, ok, I see the direction you're coming from.
          What I should have said was no more than the *cost* of a domain, as opposed to forking out for any software or monthly services, which was the message I was trying to put over for newbies thinking of paying out before trying much cheaper methods!

          Fair point.
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Curran Smith
            Get into a competitive market and the big money is well worth it for SEO, even necessary. However, you do make a good point for people who are new to the game -- exact match TLD's can be solid gold.

            In an easy market this will generally by the case -- buy exact match domains all day long. But, the thing is there's way more money in competitive marketplaces.

            There are so many ways to skin a cat.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hoodyy
    I definitely have to agree that EMD's are extremely useful when ranking for keywords. I bought an EMD that only had content on it and no backlinks and it immediately wen to position 3 for its main keyword.

    It did, however, then go back down. But after building a few backlinks it's back there in position #3, beaten by Amazon and someone else. Perhaps with a bit more work it could get to #1!
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