XsitePro - all MFA were banned

by donReba 23 replies
26 January - All my mfa sites of XsitePro were broken from Google. Content: unique, copywriting. Hosting: 4 ip's, hostgator.

Who have a lot of sites created by XsitePro - Do have any troubles-problems with it? I mean that your sites don't deindex from Google?

update. omg. I have more sites with penalty and on wordpress, and just html sites. Only one thing united them - Adsense...
#search engine optimization #banned #mfa #xsitepro
  • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
    This has been happening to a few folk. I know a few people who have experienced the same prob. If poss pm me a link and I will have a look.

    How many sites do you have hosted on each of the 4 ips? Xfactor type?
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  • Profile picture of the author lassy715
    Originally Posted by donReba View Post

    26 January - All my mfa sites of XsitePro were broken from Google. Content: unique, copywriting. Hosting: 4 ip's, hostgator.

    Who have a lot of sites created by XsitePro - Do have any troubles-problems with it? I mean that your sites don't deindex from Google?

    update. omg. I have more sites with penalty and on wordpress, and just html sites. Only one thing united them - Adsense...
    Wow, i don't use Xsitepro, but i know a couple ppl that do, i'll have to send them an email and ask - thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author bay37
    Nothing to do with xsitepro or WP or whatever... Everything to do with building **** websites and sticking Adsense on them.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Absolutely. The thought that "xsite pro" is the reason is absurd. You have probably ****ty sites. Sorry to be so blunt. This time, google actually does something GOOD.

    Edit: Yes i notice *.gov and ****TYPEDIA again overtaking me...they seemed to have gotten some value and other sites getting de-ranked a bit.
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    • Profile picture of the author donReba
      mbmehmet, i can't pm, pls, give me your email, or icq.
      Friends, thanks. I agree with you too that creating mfa - is a way with bad end. Maybe this trouble resets my life and black/grey mind
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      • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
        Originally Posted by donReba View Post

        mbmehmet, i can't pm, pls, give me your email, or icq.
        Friends, thanks. I agree with you too that creating mfa - is a way with bad end. Maybe this trouble resets my life and black/grey mind
        Email is mbmehmet@live.co.uk, I will have a peepers for ya see whats going on. As others have stated it has nothing to do with xsite pro. As mentioned before I know a few folk that had the same thing happen but a few of them have recovered.

        regards rob
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        • Profile picture of the author inter123
          How many sites in total were dropped of the SERPs? Was it 3, 5, 175 or something else?

          1 page was mentioned as the total number of pages on each site, that itself provide the answers to the initial q.
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  • XsitePro does have it's footprint, however Google is not in the business of banning tools... they filter content based on the content.

    Clearly what you are doing is being viewed as not beneficial to advertisers.

    If you are building "MFA" you are not providing benefits to advertisers.
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    • Profile picture of the author donReba
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post

      XsitePro does have it's footprint, however Google is not in the business of banning tools... they filter content based on the content.

      Clearly what you are doing is being viewed as not beneficial to advertisers.

      If you are building "MFA" you are not providing benefits to advertisers.
      hm. If MFA are getting clean organic SE traffic - is it bad for advertisers?
      now i have: any site of any CMS with Adsense - was banned.

      If somebody have MFA with only 1 page, please, reply to topic, and tell me your situation. I'm very interesting it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
        Could you please give us an example or two of your websites so we can have a look and give you some further possible explanation?
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        • Profile picture of the author scott g
          Isn't Xsitepro an HTML Web Site making/editing program?!

          That has absolutely NOTHING to do with any site EVER getting banned.

          For my HTML sites, I prefer NVU b/c it's free (or I think it's free?!?! ) and TextPad. I'm a big dork that browses through thousands of HTML/CSS Templates until I find something that kind of looks like what I'm aiming for, then GUT the template and modify to my wants and needs!!! LOL!

          Oh... And the reason why these sites are the the AXE is probably b/c they had uber low crap quality content that didn't help any site visitors. I hope Google gets rid of all of these sites... You want to make money from Adsense? Try to provide some type, any type, of useful information to the unfortunates that stumble across your site in the SERPs...

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          • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
            Originally Posted by scott g View Post

            Isn't Xsitepro an HTML Web Site making/editing program?!

            That has absolutely NOTHING to do with any site EVER getting banned.

            For my HTML sites, I prefer NVU b/c it's free (or I think it's free?!?! ) and TextPad. I'm a big dork that browses through thousands of HTML/CSS Templates until I find something that kind of looks like what I'm aiming for, then GUT the template and modify to my wants and needs!!! LOL!

            Oh... And the reason why these sites are the the AXE is probably b/c they had uber low crap quality content that didn't help any site visitors. I hope Google gets rid of all of these sites... You want to make money from Adsense? Try to provide some type, any type, of useful information to the unfortunates that stumble across your site in the SERPs...

            CHEERS!

            Scott ...

            I can write good stuff on all sorts of stuff ... but damn if I have the time - so - whats the trick here mate?

            whats the magic formula ? what = crap quality content and what = good quality content that provides help / value / aids / assists / useful info - to the "searcher" ?

            is a quality site > than 3 articles and < 1000 pages/posts?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
        Originally Posted by donReba View Post

        If somebody have MFA with only 1 page, please, reply to topic, and tell me your situation. I'm very interesting it.
        So your sites have only one page of content? That' can be the reason why Google deranked you
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      • Profile picture of the author Natlex
        Originally Posted by donReba View Post

        hm. If MFA are getting clean organic SE traffic - is it bad for advertisers?
        now i have: any site of any CMS with Adsense - was banned.

        If somebody have MFA with only 1 page, please, reply to topic, and tell me your situation. I'm very interesting it.
        google does not care only about advertisers, it cares about searchers. When you rank for products and you only offer a thing website with only adsense how does that reflect on google SEARCH ENGINE? Quite poorly.

        In the short term they care more about traffic converting to advertisers but in the LONG TERM if people rely less on google search that means a LOT of advertising money lost.

        Get it now why creating MFA/Xfactor sites does not work well?

        Seriously... I did xfactor for 2 months and realized how stupid it would be... guess what.. I modified my websites and now 6 months later I make $100+/day from adsense along these websites created in those 2 months with almost no risk of getting banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author classic99
    I'm a newbie, I have bought xsitepro, but....now i don't know what i should build my site on!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Originally Posted by classic99 View Post

      I'm a newbie, I have bought xsitepro, but....now i don't know what i should build my site on!!!
      You should still use XSitePro if you want. It's a great tool and can make some great websites. The reason the OPs sites got de-indexed in Google isn't because of XSitePro. It was most likely because it was a poor quality site with one page of poor quality content that Google believed didn't bring any real value to the visitors or to the advertisers.

      So feel free to use XSitePro.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
      Originally Posted by classic99 View Post

      I'm a newbie, I have bought xsitepro, but....now i don't know what i should build my site on!!!
      I have xsitepro. It's a good program, but it's template based. If you use it, you need to make your sites unique.

      I prefer my Dreamweaver and building them from scratch
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeliebner
    26 January - All my mfa sites of XsitePro were broken from Google. Content: unique, copywriting. Hosting: 4 ip's, hostgator.

    Who have a lot of sites created by XsitePro - Do have any troubles-problems with it? I mean that your sites don't deindex from Google?

    update. omg. I have more sites with penalty and on wordpress, and just html sites. Only one thing united them - Adsense...
    I've learned the hard way throughout the years that you'll make more money by giving Google what it likes most and trying to NOT do the things they don't like.

    I am guessing what you do is cookie cutter style with little or no value - that in itself is enough to raise red flags - combine that with other things like same ip blocks and other common threads and they figure out what kind of web publisher you are and they TAKE ACTION!

    There is still hope though if they have not closed your Adsense account - just try to create sites that have real value and you'll be ok. But remember - once they have tagged you as an "evil doer" they're going to watch you even closer than ever. So try to play by the rules and think of the end user having a good experience. You can still make money doing that!
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Originally Posted by mikeliebner View Post

      I've learned the hard way throughout the years that you'll make more money by giving Google what it likes most and trying to NOT do the things they don't like.

      I am guessing what you do is cookie cutter style with little or no value - that in itself is enough to raise red flags - combine that with other things like same ip blocks and other common threads and they figure out what kind of web publisher you are and they TAKE ACTION!

      There is still hope though if they have not closed your Adsense account - just try to create sites that have real value and you'll be ok. But remember - once they have tagged you as an "evil doer" they're going to watch you even closer than ever. So try to play by the rules and think of the end user having a good experience. You can still make money doing that!

      Gawd I wish all the bloviators would quit with all the esoteric ... give google what it likes and quality content, and add value to the searcher ...

      What the hell does that kind of gobbledy-gukk mean?

      How the hell does an Amazon page with a product image and a sku and price give value to the searcher - and my 350 word review page NOT?

      How does that putrid coupon spam site retail-me-not provide added value to the searcher with nothing but endless adblocks?

      ezine articles - adds value to the searcher? ... please hold the other side of my vomit bag open for me ... for a second ...

      How about stuff like ...

      How many pages - MINIMUM per site?

      How many posts / articles per week / day month?

      How many words on avg are the articles to be ?

      If using places like textbroker - how many stars articles?

      Dont bother putting an adsense block on your sites until you have "X" of articles of solid quality [ quality being previously defined somehow above ]
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      • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
        Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

        ezine articles - adds value to the searcher? ... please hold the other side of my vomit bag open for me ... for a second ...
        Google has mentioned that Content Farms (Ezinearticles for example) are on their hit-list.

        Amazon.com is an online store that provides easy access to a products features; a place to compare prices; and a place to read user reviews and discusss the products.

        Amazon isn't content put up just to capture Search Engine traffic. It's user reviews aren't fake, scraped, or derivative. Amazon also doesn't directly target most search and product terms. It isn't spam.

        Amazon is a business while bigredwidgetsreview.com is not.

        Google doesn't give Amazon any favours; those pages are actually a breeze to beat with MFA content.

        Google is trying to programmatically determine 'good content' and their latest update is an indication of that. If you don't think quality content is going to become a measurable quantity then don't worry about it, no one cares what you do with your site.

        It isn't the people with what I would call 'quality content' constantly complaining about being deindexed on this forum though. Even on larger webmaster sites like Webmasterworld, the complainers are usually ecommerce stores that offer similar to Amazon - without the focus on the end-user.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Yeah, xfactor was good while it lasted, but I am getting away from that model, definitely. Though no sites banned here right now, not that I have many anyway.

    Google definitely did an algo change on the 26th (see Matt Cutts blog), but it seemed to be more aimed at unoriginal content. Problem is, if you followed Xfactor you might have blasted a lot of identical articles out there. Maybe they got devalued, and consequently the value of the backlinks...
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    Stuff happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Users can tell, but I wonder how a search engine will ever be able to. Unless it somehow asks the users of course...
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