Which Link Building Method You Follow? And WHY?

13 years ago

It is probably uncommon for someone to only use one of those strategies - in fact, it is pretty important to use many!

I personally rely mostly on article marketing, forum posting, and blog commenting - because those are (from my experience) the ones that have the most return for the least work. I also occasionally do social bookmarking.

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Diane S

13 years ago

Variety is the spice of backlinking! I always do these at a minimum for any keyword I go after:

1. social bookmarking
2. article marketing
3. directory submissions
4. blog commenting

I do those because they work, and because I can automate the tasks. So it is worth my time.

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ddurick 13 years ago

Dianne, which directory submission tool do you use? I have been doing it manually to the 50 or so largest directories out there but now that I'm building more websites, I'd like to automate it. I've found one that looks pretty good, $20 for each website you build and submit to their list of 1600 or so.
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schttrj

13 years ago

I prefer: article marketing and blog commenting...social bookmarking is not worth it, according to me! And directories don't count these days.

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Rukshan 13 years ago

Originally Posted by schttrj

I prefer: article marketing and blog commenting...social bookmarking is not worth it, according to me! And directories don't count these days.

Are you kidding? Article marketing is a primary method for building backlinks.
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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by schttrj

And directories don't count these days.

Very true ... but people don't seem to acknowledge it, even when they observe that it doesn't work for them. There are countless threads/posts here from people who consider that what they're doing is "article marketing", and have typically been spinning short articles and mass-submitting them to many hundreds of directories and are still wondering why "it isn't working for them".

URL-directories tend to be exactly the same, too (i.e. close-to-useless).

Non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlinks have such tiny value that it can take thousands of them to give the link-juice equivalent to one decent context-relevant, higher-PR backlink. Literally thousands, not just hundreds. But people seem sometimes slow to acknowledge this ... even some of the very people who are having problems because of it.

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robvegas626

13 years ago

I was told by a reputable source that 1 legitimate link from a PR5 site is worth over 500 links from PR 0 sites!

That's what you are hitting when you mass-submit to those massive lists of article directories (using Article Demon, Magic Article Submitter, etc): a lot of garbage PR 0 sites that are virtually meaningless.

See if any of those submissions ever pops up on the first page of Google. It ain't going to happen. But I've manually submitted great articles to EZine that are on page one within a week.

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redstanford

13 years ago

Originally Posted by robvegas626

See if any of those submissions ever pops up on the first page of Google. It ain't going to happen. But I've manually submitted great articles to EZine that are on page one within a week.

so basically you say it is impossible but you have done it. that makes sense

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robvegas626 13 years ago

When I've manually submitted to a top article site (EZine), I was able to get on page one. I've used various automated software (on a large scale, with outsourced work), and even that could not get me the same result.

Alexa, I think you're correct...it really does seem that even 10,000 spammy links doesn't match the power of one totally legit link from a PR5 site. That's the fundamental problem of all of these "Google Annihilation" (or whatever they're calling it) programs that come out ever other week.
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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by robvegas626

I was told by a reputable source that 1 legitimate link from a PR5 site is worth over 500 links from PR 0 sites!

I strongly suspect that even this may be a huge understatement.

The author of "SEO For Dummies", one of the few experts on this subject I really do trust and am pretty happy to rely on (after verifying so many of his other assertions for myself), takes many pages to explain in detail why 1 legitimate, context-relevant link from a PR-5 page is likely to be worth at the very least many thousands (possibly even tens of thousands) of PR-0 links.

Originally Posted by robvegas626

I've manually submitted great articles to EZine that are on page one within a week.

Same here ... albeit temporarily so (fortunately for me, because I want my site's copy to rank higher than the EZA copy, which eventually they do, if you always publish them and have them indexed there before EZA submission).

People think of an EZA backlink as a "high-PR backlink" but it really isn't, at all: articles at EZA go on PR-0 pages, just like articles in any other directory. It's only EZA's home-page which is PR-6. Still, that undeniably gives even their PR-0 pages - containing our articles - a fast and temporary boost.

Sadly, there are a lot of people selling backlinks which they describe, with huge economy of truth, as "backlinks on PR-3 to PR-5 sites", for example, omitting to mention that they're actually on PR-0 pages of sites whose home-page happens to have a higher page-rank.
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oneplusone

13 years ago

Originally Posted by robvegas626

I was told by a reputable source that 1 legitimate link from a PR5 site is worth over 500 links from PR 0 sites!

That's what you are hitting when you mass-submit to those massive lists of article directories (using Article Demon, Magic Article Submitter, etc): a lot of garbage PR 0 sites that are virtually meaningless.

See if any of those submissions ever pops up on the first page of Google. It ain't going to happen. But I've manually submitted great articles to EZine that are on page one within a week.

On the chart I've got that a lot of SEO experts commonly use, a PR5 link is worth 5,000 to 27,000 PR0 links.

Obviously nobody knows the exact numbers, but most SEO experts agree on these numbers (they don't agree on many things, but this is one area where there is agreement)

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webjedi

13 years ago

Originally Posted by oneplusone

On the chart I've got that a lot of SEO experts commonly use, a PR5 link is worth 5,000 to 27,000 PR0 links.

Obviously nobody knows the exact numbers, but most SEO experts agree on these numbers (they don't agree on many things, but this is one area where there is agreement)

I wonder if that takes into account the quality of the backlink.
Say, 5,000 PR0 links from all theme relevant sites -vs- 1 PR5 link from a random unrelated site

Personally, I do not pay attention at all to PR. That is a big myth just run a keyword search tool and check the PRs of the 1-5 sites.

My view is any link is a good link. Period.

wj

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MikeFriedman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by robvegas626

I was told by a reputable source that 1 legitimate link from a PR5 site is worth over 500 links from PR 0 sites!

That's what you are hitting when you mass-submit to those massive lists of article directories (using Article Demon, Magic Article Submitter, etc): a lot of garbage PR 0 sites that are virtually meaningless.

See if any of those submissions ever pops up on the first page of Google. It ain't going to happen. But I've manually submitted great articles to EZine that are on page one within a week.

I understand your point, but I disagree to some degree. There are many different methods that can work just as well.

I do quite a few mass submissions and have quite a few articles on those lowly directories that show up on page one and page two.

Now is Ezine the most frequented by webmasters looking for content? Yeah. Does that mean nobody ever pulls content from any other article directory? No. I want my content everywhere.

I don't care if they are PR 0 backlinks. They don't hurt my sites. What I'm really hoping for though is for them to get picked up by webmasters and posted to higher PR sites.

Big businesses do not just put their products in one store. They put them in as many stores as they can. Well, I want my products in every store too.

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robvegas626

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Very true ... but people don't seem to acknowledge it, even when they observe that it doesn't work for them. There are countless threads/posts here from people who consider that what they're doing is "article marketing", and have typically been spinning short articles and mass-submitting them to many hundreds of directories and are still wondering why "it isn't working for them".

URL-directories tend to be exactly the same, too (i.e. close-to-useless).

Non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlinks have such tiny value that it can take thousands of them to give the link-juice equivalent to one decent context-relevant, higher-PR backlink. Literally thousands, not just hundreds. But people seem sometimes slow to acknowledge this ... even some of the very people who are having problems because of it.

Good point. I know people who are always salivating over the latest "Google Nuclear Annihilation 2.0" software (or whatever the heck they're calling it), and they really believe they're spending the money wisely to blast out a million backlinks a day...but does it help them? Does it make them money? No, not really.

I used to buy every new piece of software that came out. I've used them all. Now I'm making more sales than ever because the article marketing is all done manually, with GOOD articles, on the sites that COUNT. Of course, there is a lot of outsourcing involved...it has taken me years to figure out where (and how) to submit to get results. And spammy automated software does not factor into it anymore.

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Dave Rodman

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Very true ... but people don't seem to acknowledge it, even when they observe that it doesn't work for them. There are countless threads/posts here from people who consider that what they're doing is "article marketing", and have typically been spinning short articles and mass-submitting them to many hundreds of directories and are still wondering why "it isn't working for them".

URL-directories tend to be exactly the same, too (i.e. close-to-useless).

Non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlinks have such tiny value that it can take thousands of them to give the link-juice equivalent to one decent context-relevant, higher-PR backlink. Literally thousands, not just hundreds. But people seem sometimes slow to acknowledge this ... even some of the very people who are having problems because of it.

Link directories don't do much individually, but it's a one time thing. You build a site, you hire a service for $50 to submit it, and then you're done. I've had sites where this is all I've done and it'll max out at a PR2 or PR3 with limited ranking. If you're doing it yourself, it's a tremendous waste of time. But if you can pay someone else to do it, it's worth it.

What I don't agree with is just mass-submitting articles week after week and wondering why rankings don't go up.

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NateRivers

13 years ago

Forums, articles, and blog posting. Dedicate an hour each day to each one and you'll make money. (Assuming you know how to convert the traffic you're generating.)

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kdockins 13 years ago

Enlightening comment you've made here, and I can't help but notice that your preference or strategy omits the social bookmarking technique. Personally, as much as I've done with social bookmarking, I hardly EVER see REAL registered back-links come as a reward for it.

So, although nearly EVERY other bit of feedback about social bookmarking seems to be favorable, it doesn't seem to matter much in my campaigns as of yet.

Can you tell me why you have also elected to skip the social bookmarking process?
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schttrj

13 years ago

It seems Article Marketing is common to all...

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Dave Rodman

Banned 13 years ago

At the beginning, I do the standard stuff. Basically mass directory submissions, content sharing, and article directory sites. My goal is to get a certain amount of link reputation PER PAGE on my site. That is, to tell Google what each page is about.

After that, I focus entirely on higher value linking. Creating relationships with other site and try to get a link, giving away things for a link, or just straight up buying links under the radar.

At a certain point, you need to scale down the article marketing and content sharing. It's not as effective. You need to start gettign some real pagerank into your site.

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robvegas626

13 years ago

Primarily article marketing and a ton of YouTube submissions, using some pretty cool strategies

There's a strategy to every type of link building. Having a linking STRATEGY is very important...sending link juice to your links, so your links on pass the juice to your money page...and once the traffic flows through to your money page you need to make sure it CONVERTS.

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bravo75

13 years ago

I am surprised that nobody ever mentions link exchanges anymore. Surly, a link on a decent PR homepage (not PR 0 inner page) is one of the best links you can get.)

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by bravo75

Surly, a link on a decent PR homepage (not PR 0 inner page) is one of the best links you can get.)

Only really if it doesn't already have a large number of other links on it, and much more so if it's context-relevant to your own site.

And don't call me surly.
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Affportal

13 years ago

Originally Posted by bravo75

I am surprised that nobody ever mentions link exchanges anymore. Surly, a link on a decent PR homepage (not PR 0 inner page) is one of the best links you can get.)

I have a good friend who strongly relies on these types of link exchanges for all his backlinking.

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pirondi

13 years ago

A link is a link.

I use all platforms that i can.

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Merle Hans

13 years ago

Originally Posted by schttrj

There are quite a few number of link building methods:

Article submission
Content sharing (Squidoo, Hubpages)
PR submission
PDF sharing
Video Marketing
Directory Submission
Social Bookmarking
Blog Commenting
Forum Posting
Micro Blogging

Might be something else also...

Which one do you follow? And WHY?

I never stick to one method.....I use a combination of any of them from time to time whenever I see it necessary... like blogging and video marketing for health products then paste it on the previous social media page I made....

The main point here is that everything comes down to whatever strategy you use.... so just make sure your doing it without spamming anyone and you're good to go....

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13 years ago

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Manuelcrc 13 years ago

I use forum marketing (like what I'm currently doing), social media (Twitter, to a little extent Facebook), Article Marketing...
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Mark Jones

13 years ago

I am new at this and have learned a lot from this thread. What I understand is, article marketing, forum posting, and blog commenting are common.

on a different note, is there any site or software ( free ) which would tell me how google ranks my site?

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kooldesigning

13 years ago

So far i noticed three things are very common
Article marketing
Blog commenting
Forum posting

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13 years ago

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donnan

13 years ago

There is one thing often missing from people favourite places to get backlinks and I always wonder why.

Maybe because I have been using the internet now for 18 years and I learnt alot of things about backlinks in those early days.

I have one website I used to regularly promote to this great backlink resource and now I have over 56,000 links coming from it.

It's a bit of a secret but hey I will share.

Have you ever heard of FFA (Free for all) links? These are an invaluable backlink tool because google loves them. Type a search in google and watch how many come up. But another great thing about FFA links is there are plenty of free scripts out there you can use to send to thousands of these at a time.

It's a great free resource for getting backlinks. Now I might be showing my age.

Check my link below for other great backlinks.

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redstanford

13 years ago

Originally Posted by donnan

There is one thing often missing from people favourite places to get backlinks and I always wonder why.

Maybe because I have been using the internet now for 18 years and I learnt alot of things about backlinks in those early days.

I have one website I used to regularly promote to this great backlink resource and now I have over 56,000 links coming from it.

It's a bit of a secret but hey I will share.

Have you ever heard of FFA (Free for all) links? These are an invaluable backlink tool because google loves them. Type a search in google and watch how many come up. But another great thing about FFA links is there are plenty of free scripts out there you can use to send to thousands of these at a time.

It's a great free resource for getting backlinks. Now I might be showing my age.

Check my link below for other great backlinks.

this looks intriguing. is it a service you sign up for do you actively create links through site to site communication?

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donnan 13 years ago

Originally Posted by redstanford

this looks intriguing. is it a service you sign up for do you actively create links through site to site communication?

Type a search in google and watch how many come up. But another great thing about FFA links is there are plenty of free scripts out there you can use to send to thousands of these at a time.

There is no service. Just do a search for the scripts that will send to thousands of FFA Links for free. They are out there and easy to find.
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khenmhike

13 years ago

I usually do Social bookmarking, article submission, blog commenting and directory submission in getting backlinks.

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tedwood

13 years ago

Can people tell me what they think of youtube marketing. I don't know why I haven't tried this yet, must be crazy :/

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Affportal 13 years ago

Originally Posted by tedwood

Can people tell me what they think of youtube marketing. I don't know why I haven't tried this yet, must be crazy :/

I love it, any instructional video I make, I replicate for youtube. Not only is it great for driving traffic FROM youtube, but it also makes the videos you post on your website ipod/ipad compatible.

Vimeo is another great service for this type of posting and embedding your video on your site which is also ipod compatible.
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Jordan Kovats

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tedwood

Can people tell me what they think of youtube marketing. I don't know why I haven't tried this yet, must be crazy :/

I noticed this month that Youtube has sent more traffic then any other month. I'm not sure why if it is the videos that are aging, being found more frequently in the searches, the amount of tagging...but if you put out some quality helpful videos, the traffic starts to come.

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tedwood

13 years ago

Originally Posted by theseoguys

I noticed this month that Youtube has sent more traffic then any other month. I'm not sure why if it is the videos that are aging, being found more frequently in the searches, the amount of tagging...but if you put out some quality helpful videos, the traffic starts to come.

Considering you own a search engine optimization site that must be pretty big news. Probably because of this comment alone I'm going to try it. Can you recommend any software to use without me having to be in the vid. Maybe just text with some music!?

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atrbiz

13 years ago

I've had great success link building via blog posts.

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@seo

13 years ago

Originally Posted by schttrj

There are quite a few number of link building methods:

Article submission
Content sharing (Squidoo, Hubpages)
PR submission
PDF sharing
Video Marketing
Directory Submission
Social Bookmarking
Blog Commenting
Forum Posting
Micro Blogging

Might be something else also...

Which one do you follow? And WHY?

All methods mentioned above are very unique methods for building backlinks.

I like as priority -
1. Article submissions
2. Directory submissions
3. Social bookmarking
4. Content sharing
5. Unique signature link (Very good method for High PR and tons of backlinks)

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shuichi

13 years ago

•Blog Commenting
•Link Exchange & Blogroll
•Forum Posting
•Web Directory
•Social Bookmarking
•Article directories
•Guest Posting

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darcie

13 years ago

i prefer this method

Content sharing (Squidoo, Hubpages)
Social Bookmarking
Blog Commenting
Forum Posting

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pethanks

13 years ago

I focus my effort now on social bookmarking, blog commenting, directory submission and micro blogging.

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claudemai

13 years ago

I prefer:
1.) Web 2.0
2.) Do follow blogs
3.) Social Bookmarking

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Ronny Kibet

13 years ago

I use linkbuilding networks. Linkvana is my fav.

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DPWeb

13 years ago

I always start a new website out by submitting a few articles to Ezine. Articles go through the submission process quickly. They are often getting URL clicks the first day. Some articles get ranked on Google page 1. Those articles pull in plenty of traffic until you can get your website into the SAME page 1. You can get two URLs on the first page of Google. You raise your click through rates quite a bit with two articles on the first page.

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DIGITALCHAMELEON

13 years ago

Organic SEO like the strategies you present are effective but it takes time to see the result. Using software to create links are good and fast too like using BMD and Scrapebox though it needs money but you can see the result in just a short period of time.

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seospan

13 years ago

The more strategies you do in your link building, the better. Mine are:

→ Social Bookmarking
→ Directory Submission
→ RSS Submissiom
→ Blog Commenting
→ Forum Posting
→ Web 2.0
→ Q&A
→ Article/Blog Submission
→ Blog Posting

I do those because they work, and because I can mechanize the tasks. So it is worth my time.

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ayushiinfo

13 years ago

forum posting
article submission
blog posting
classified posting
are the best i am concentrating this only others are time waste

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